Yeah, That's Probably an Ad
502 episodes - English - Latest episode: 5 days ago - ★★★★★ - 138 ratingsJoin the scrappy, skeptical Adweek news team as we debate the highs and lows of creativity, advertising, marketing, media and technology.
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How Rihanna and Fenty Beauty Won the Super Bowl
February 20, 2023 17:27 - 36 minutes - 83.5 MBIn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI Shannon Miller is joined by Adweek senior producer Al Mannarino and Europe brand editor Rebecca Stewart to discuss the Apple Music Super Bowl LVII Halftime Show and how Rihanna leveraged the biggest stage in the world to promote Fenty Beauty. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
A Table for Two with McDonald's
February 17, 2023 17:19 - 27 minutes - 63 MBIn this bonus episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI Shannon Miller chats with McDonald's vp of U.S. marketing, brand content and engagement, Jennifer "JJ" Healan, about the ins and outs of the brand's latest Famous Order, the Cardi B and Offset Meal, as well as the power of fan-fueled collaboration. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Best Ads of Super Bowl LVII
February 13, 2023 13:02 - 45 minutes - 104 MBIn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, co-hosts DEI Shannon Miller and Luz Corona are joined by an all-star panel of guests which includes engagement director Jess Zafarris, senior tv reporter Mollie Cahillane, and senior producer Al Mannarino to discuss the best ads of Super Bowl LVII, how Tubi became the unexpected breakout hit, and what we want to see in next year's crop. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Everyone is Begging Apple TV+ to Call Them
February 06, 2023 17:20 - 40 minutes - 93.8 MBIn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI Shannon Miller is joined by senior tv reporter Mollie Cahillane, and senior producer Al Mannarino to discuss all things Apple TV+, their recent campaign with Timothée Chalamet, and their unorthodox advertising strategy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why Agencies Are Welcoming Back Fyre Fest Fraudster Billy McFarland
January 30, 2023 16:20 - 45 minutes - 104 MBIn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI Shannon Miller is joined by reporter Emmy Liederman and digital editor Colin Daniels to discuss the return of Billy McFarland, the architect of the notorious Fyre Festival and why three marketing agencies have decided that he deserves a second chance. Later in the episode, Miller is joined by co-host and community editor Luz Corona to celebrate the 300th episode of the podcast! Fol...
APN Spotlight: Let's Talk About Brand
January 23, 2023 17:07 - 34 minutes - 46.9 MBOn this week's special bonus episode of Yeah, That's Probably an Ad, we are spotlighting another new series from the Adweek Podcast Network! Hosted by Christine Gritmon, Let's Talk About Brand is a weekly expert interview series featuring conversations with experts to help you level up your personal brand. During this episode, Christine sits down with Andy Crestodina who shares how to make your website work harder for you by making your audience do LESS work to figure out who you are, why t...
APN Spotlight: Touch of Truth with Jackie Cooper
January 10, 2023 15:28 - 42 minutes - 97.9 MBWelcome to Touch of Truth, the podcast that connects you to the unsung heroes and power players of our industry as they share the human truth behind the glossy experience. No schmooze, no rehearsal, just pure unadulterated honesty. Their stories might just make you a little more successful and a lot happier. In episode one, host Jackie Cooper sits down with fluid fashion designer Harris Reed, creative director for French fashion house Nina Ricci. During the episode, they discuss how Reed ha...
Special Episode: Business Sustainability with Meta’s Crystal Worthem and Ogilvy Consulting Sustainability Practice’s Aisling Ryan
January 05, 2023 17:25 - 34 minutes - 79.2 MBIn this special episode of Brandweek: The Podcast, Adweek senior producer Al Mannarino sits down with Crystal Worthem, Director, Global Audience Marketing at Meta and Aisling Ryan, Managing Partner at The Sustainability Practice at Ogilvy Consulting and WPP UN Lead to discuss Meta’s recent Sustainability Report, creating a global standardized measurement for the industry to ensure they are doing their part in reducing emissions, and why agencies and brands should be responsible for educating...
Best Ads of 2022: The Good, The Great, and The Future
December 19, 2022 17:13 - 45 minutes - 104 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI Shannon Miller is joined by audience engagement director Jess Zafarris and European creative editor Brittaney Kiefer to discuss the best ads of the year and the future of creativity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Who Won Agency of the Year?
December 12, 2022 10:00 - 25 minutes - 59.4 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI, Shannon Miller, is joined by Jameson Fleming, Adweek's managing editor for agencies and marketing to discuss this year's winner of the Agency of the Year award and the changes made to the awards program to better reflect the top agencies across the landscape. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
What Makes a Memorable Super Bowl Ad?
December 05, 2022 15:30 - 31 minutes - 72.5 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, managing editor of creativity, creator economy and DEI, Shannon Miller, is joined by Adweek digital editor and host of Young Influentials, Colin Daniels, and Rafael Canton, Adweek's breaking news reporter for brand marketing, to discuss how brands are trying to find the best recipe for Super Bowl marketing success. And yes, it involves celebrities. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Inside the Creator Economy and Adweek's Creator Network
November 21, 2022 17:29 - 49 minutes - 113 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller is joined by Christine Gritmon, host of Let's Talk About Brand, and Adweek social editor Sami Lambert to discuss the current state of the creator economy and the development of Adweek’s Creator Network, a collaborative of marketing-, advertising- and media-centric creators who work with Adweek to develop content around our events, subscriptions, and key issues that impact the marketing world. ...
Behind the Scenes of Social Media Week and Brandweek Europe
November 14, 2022 15:02 - 37 minutes - 85.6 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller is joined by some of Adweek's Europe Team, Brand Editor Rebecca Stewart and Creative Editor Brittaney Kiefer. With Social Media Week and Brandweek Europe officially over, Stewart and Kiefer discuss the year's worth of work behind the event, intentions behind themes and speakers, and general programming thoughts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
APN Spotlight: Home / Work - Reshaping the Modern Power Couple with Carla and Tariq Hassan
November 07, 2022 10:00 - 35 minutes - 580 MBShannon and Luz are taking a much needed break this week. They've instead opted for another episode in the Adweek Podcast Network, the premiere episode of Home / Work. Antonio Lucio sits down with Carla Hassan, Chief Marketing Officer of JPMorgan Chase, and Tariq Hassan, Chief Marketing and Digital Customer Experience Officer of Mcdonald's to discuss balancing two incredible careers while raising a family, what they learned while raising a family during the pandemic, and why they don't con...
Behind the Screams of Uber Eats' Halloween Film
October 31, 2022 09:00 - 32 minutes - 74.7 MBIn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and director of audience engagement Jess Zafarris are joined by Katie Donnel, Senior Marketer at Uber Eats, and Simon Armour, Creative Director at Kamp Grizzly to discuss the recent Uber Eats’ Halloween horror film starring Keke Palmer, how the film came together and the next frontier for shoppable creativity. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
There Are Stranger Things Than Seeing A Brand On a Show These Days
October 24, 2022 16:22 - 31 minutes - 73.2 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Erin Schmidt, chief product placement officer at BEN, an entertainment AI company that specializes in product placement. From strategic KFC mentions in Stranger Things to the critical role of a prop master, the episode dives into what it takes for brands to meaningfully connect with the audiences watching the (big and small) screen. Hosted on Acas...
Why HHM is More Than Translating Ad Copy Into Spanish
October 10, 2022 18:01 - 20 minutes - 47.8 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, community editor Luz Corona is joined by creative strategy consultant Michael Leon-Rivera and Legendary Entertainment head of social media and digital marketing Sandy Archila to break down the campaign strategies seen in the past year when it comes to targeting Hispanic and Latinx consumers and what works (and what doesn’t). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Yeah, That’s Probably A New Halftime Show
October 03, 2022 13:53 - 26 minutes - 59.6 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, community editor Luz Corona and senior producer Al Mannarino are joined by senior CPG reporter Paul Hiebert and senior TV reporter Mollie Cahillane to discuss the next era for the Super Bowl Halftime show, from the new sponsor taking over to the superstar headliner announcement to ad predictions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Slightly Off Pitch
September 26, 2022 13:32 - 23 minutes - 54.9 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by agencies editor Jameson Fleming to discuss the rise in agencies winning new business without pitching and what it could mean for future agency-client relations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Behind the Scenes of Brandweek 2022
September 19, 2022 17:50 - 38 minutes - 87.2 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by senior producer Al Mannarino and director, event operations and production Gail Amurao to discuss the development and execution of Adweek's Brandweek event in Miami, which included sessions led by Kristin Cavallari, Kevin Hart, and Pharrell Williams. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
We Should Probably Worry Darling
September 12, 2022 18:25 - 31 minutes - 73.1 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Rachel Gillman Rischall, founder of Three PR, a Chicago-based lifestyle public relations firm to discuss the upcoming film, Don't Worry Darling and what happens when the surrounding press becomes bigger than the product. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Billable Ballet Bonanza
September 06, 2022 13:32 - 23 minutes - 53.1 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Adweek European creative editor Brittaney Kiefer to discuss her recent coverage of an ad agency's creative department spending 2,500 billable hours learning ballet to spark creativity amongst the team. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How Marketers Can Win Over Generation Alpha
August 29, 2022 16:48 - 32 minutes - 74.5 MBHow does one market to a generation with some members not having even been born yet? On this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Adweek agencies reporter Kyle O'Brien to discuss Gen Alpha (those born in 2010 and after) and how they are next in line for brands and agencies to target after Gen Z grows up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Getting Loud About Mental Health
August 22, 2022 14:58 - 30 minutes - 70.4 MBCreative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Adweek agencies reporter Emmy Liederman to discuss the state of mental health in the industry, how to avoid using it as an empty marketing tactic, and how Gen Z is setting the tone for mental health best practices and accommodations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It's a Bird! It's a Plane! It's Culture-Forward Advertising!
August 15, 2022 16:06 - 41 minutes - 95.1 MBOn this week's episode, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by senior producer Al Mannarino to discuss the state of nerd culture. They explore how it's pushing the marketing industry to respond, the rise of inclusive and diverse storytelling and the potential this new and exciting content available creates for brand partnerships. Check out these recent Adweek Voice pieces further exploring these topics... What Brands Can Learn From the Po...
Young Influentials: A League of Their Own
August 08, 2022 15:43 - 38 minutes - 88.3 MBYeah, this week is probably a crossover episode! Creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Mollie Cahillane (host of Adweek's Most Powerful Women in Sports podcast and senior TV reporter) and Colin Daniels (host of Adweek's Young Influentials podcast and digital editor) to discuss this year's Young influentials list which highlights individuals under 40 who are truly making an impact across media, marketing, tech and the creator economy. Hos...
The Music Marketing Renaissance
August 01, 2022 16:10 - 31 minutes - 72.4 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona sit down with Naji Grampus, vp of streaming & strategy at The Orchard and host of Cigar Talk to discuss the evolution of music marketing, the future of the "surprise drop," and how Beyoncé continues to set the standard for how to release a new album. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Cannabis Goes to the Fair
July 25, 2022 18:08 - 38 minutes - 87.9 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller chats with senior editor Terry Stanley to discuss the inclusion of cannabis in the California State Fair and how the weed industry continues to plant its flag further into mainstream American institutions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Trailblazing Women
July 18, 2022 14:25 - 47 minutes - 108 MBOn this week's episode, creative and inclusion editor Shannon Miller sits down with the podcast's new co-host and Adweek's community editor, Luz Corona, as they discuss this year's Women Trailblazers issue with contributor Leslie Blount. Listen in as they take a moment to celebrate women in media, tech and advertising who are taking equality to the next level. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
How Holding Company Media Networks Stack Up, According to Forrester
July 13, 2022 14:00 - 22 minutes - 51.2 MBToday Forrester Research published a report assessing the strengths and weaknesses of seven holding company media networks. The objective assessment is a CMO's guide to choosing a media agency partner. Olivia Morley, senior agencies reporter at Adweek sat down with Jay Pattisall, principal analyst at Forrester, to talk about what industry trends emerged during the evaluation. In this episode, Pattisall shares his take on which media networks are the best fit for which brand types, and Omnicom...
Yeah, This is Probably Griner's Last Episode
July 11, 2022 15:07 - 52 minutes - 120 MBOn his last episode as host of Yeah, That's Probably an Ad, Adweek's former international editor David Griner is joined by Tim Nudd, editor-in-chief of the Clio Awards, to discuss the origins of the podcast, Griner's humble beginnings at Adweek, and Tagline, Tim's podcast about the making of great ads. Then Griner sits down with creative & inclusion editor Shannon Miller for one final conversation as co-hosts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why the Ad Industry Needs to be More Inclusive of Non-Drinkers
July 04, 2022 13:41 - 33 minutes - 76.1 MBOn this week's episode, international editor David Griner is joined by agencies writer Emmy Liederman and senior editor T.L. Stanley to discuss how companies are under pressure to figure out how to craft more inclusive environments for non-drinkers, the rise of alcohol-free cocktails, and where cannabis beverages fit into the mix. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Ukrainian Creatives on How the Advertising Industry Can Help Now
July 01, 2022 12:49 - 21 minutes - 48.8 MBIn April, Adweek produced a special edition of our magazine which was written, edited and illustrated by a group of Ukrainian journalists and creatives to help readers better understand the country’s creative past, present and future following the Russian invasion. To continue to tell that story, three of the editors, Hanna Rudenko, Dasha Andriushchenko and Sophia Pylypyuk, traveled to Cannes to attend the Lions festival and meet the industry to convey how it can continue to help support th...
Cannes Lions 2022: "Confusing Times" for Burger King and David Agency
June 24, 2022 13:30 - 29 minutes - 66.5 MBThe witty campaign Confusing Times was released by Burger King last summer to promote its Plant-Based Meat menu additions with the creative receiving much acclaim, winning several awards at Cannes Lions. Its follow-up campaign 'More Confusing Times' is also performing strongly at the awards this year - will there be a completion to the trilogy next year? While attending Cannes Lions, three of those who steer the campaign to success: Iwo Zakowski, head of global brand marketing at Burger Kin...
Cannes Lions 2022: Creative Marketer of the Year
June 21, 2022 09:25 - 19 minutes - 43.5 MBAt Cannes Lions this year, AB Inbev, winner of 40 Lions last year at the festival, is to be named Creative Marketer of the Year. Stephen Lepitak, Europe Bureau Chief for Adweek talks to Ryan Verschoor, the company’s global vp of culture and capabilities about some of its recent campaign work, how the company chooses the right initiatives for its brands to tackle and his expectations for the week ahead in France. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
What to Expect From Cannes Lions 2022
June 13, 2022 15:56 - 30 minutes - 69.3 MBOn this week’s episode of Yeah, That’s Probably an Ad, creativity and inclusion editor Shannon Miller is joined by Europe brand editor Rebecca Stewart and Europe creative editor Brittaney Kiefer to talk about the return of advertising’s most high-profile international event, Cannes Lions. During the conversation, Shannon, Rebecca, and Brittaney discuss who they think will be the big winners, surprise standouts, and most talked about campaigns of the festival, which will be the first in-perso...
James Patterson Reflects on the Lessons of His Time in Advertising
June 06, 2022 14:50 - 28 minutes - 64.1 MBAuthor James Patterson sits down with international editor David Griner to reflect on his years as an executive at venerable agency J. Walter Thompson, his decision to leave the ad game, his mixed bag of experiences with film and TV adaptations, and his new memoir James Patterson by James Patterson. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Why Holding Companies are Mashing Agencies Together
June 03, 2022 18:28 - 18 minutes - 41.8 MBThe past several years, holding companies have been mashing together sister agencies in a Frankensteinian way, (see: VMLY&R, Wunderman Thompson and now, EssenceMediaCom). Adweek senior agencies reporter Olivia Morley goes down an ad industry rabbit hole with three agency experts to find out how the industry ever became this confusing and why the old way doesn’t work for today’s clients. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Honoring AAPI Creative Talent Across Marketing
May 30, 2022 10:00 - 53 minutes - 122 MBOn this week's episode, creativity and inclusion editor Shannon Miller and community editor Luz Corona are joined by Bernice Chao, Head of Integrated Creative at Zambezi and co-founder of Asians in Advertising to discuss the creation of the AAPI Creative Spotlight series, a daily celebration of AAPI visionaries who are changing the ad industry with their unique approaches to branding and creativity. Later in the episode, they are joined by Liz Kim, Art Director at M Booth and one of the crea...
Drinking Bourbon With Matthew McConaughey
May 16, 2022 10:00 - 27 minutes - 62.1 MBCelebrated actor and Wild Turkey creative director Matthew McConaughey joins Adweek's David Griner and Shannon Miller to sample his custom bourbon, Longbranch, and talk about the process behind its ads. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Death of the Cubicle
May 09, 2022 13:04 - 35 minutes - 81.9 MBOn this week’s episode, international editor David Griner and creativity editor Shannon Miller are joined by agencies editor Jameson Fleming to discuss why agencies are investing in bringing people back to work by focusing their attention on giving their workspaces modern makeovers. Also, Adweek embarks on its annual quest to tell the difference between agency names and Kentucky Derby horse names. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This Year's Creator Visionaries
May 02, 2022 17:02 - 28 minutes - 65 MBIn honor of our second annual Creator Visionary Awards, David and Shannon sit down with Adweek's senior coordinator of awards, honors, and programming Alexia Marrache to discuss this year's innovators and influencers who have unlocked the limitless potential of the digital space. They also cover Shannon's cover story with Steve Aoki, Adweek's Creator Visionary of the Year. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
On Ukraine, by Ukrainians
April 25, 2022 15:28 - 29 minutes - 68.5 MBFor our latest issue, Adweek handed off control of the publication for a special issue created entirely by Ukrainian talents whose lives and livelihoods have been upended by war. On this special episode of Yeah, That's Probably an Ad, David sits down with Hanna Rudenko, deputy editor Dasha Andriushchenko, and deputy editor Sofiia Pylypiuk to discuss the creation of the issue, what they hope the issue will accomplish, and what they most want the world to know, believe and support about the fut...
Is TV at a Tipping Point?
April 18, 2022 15:15 - 27 minutes - 62.5 MBWith the world of TV metrics in disarray and networks looking for new sources of content, our hosts discuss the success of Adweek cover star Quinta Brunson and her ABC hit, Abbott Elementary. Adweek TV editor Jason Lynch joins Shannon Miller to discuss her cover story on Brunson and the trends reshaping the TV landscape as this year's upfront sales pitches begin. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
The Red Flags of New Business
April 11, 2022 16:06 - 31 minutes - 71.2 MBOn this week’s episode, international editor David Griner and creavity editor Shannon Miller are joined by agencies editor Jameson Fleming and agencies reporter Emmy Liederman to discuss the current state of agencies, the importance of a having a creator strategy in the pitching process, and the red flags agencies look for when evaluating new business opportunities. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Who's Standing Up for Sustainability?
April 04, 2022 15:50 - 30 minutes - 42 MBOn this week's episode, David and Shannon sit down with Adweek's sustainability editor Kathryn Lundstrom to discuss this year’s Sustainability Stars, who are making climate a real priority for their brands and providing businesses a blueprint for transformative change. Read more about our 2022 honorees here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
266 - Who's Standing Up for Sustainability?
April 04, 2022 15:50 - 31 minutes - 43.7 MBOn this week's episode, David and Shannon sit down with Adweek's sustainability editor Kathryn Lundstrom to discuss this year’s Sustainability Stars, who are making climate a real priority for their brands and providing businesses a blueprint for transformative change. Read more about our 2022 honorees here. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
265 - Celebrating Women's History Month
March 28, 2022 15:57 - 32 minutes - 73.6 MBIn honor of Women’s History Month, Adweek paid tribute to those who are defying gendered expectations in advertising, marketing and media through a series of stories written by Adweek editors, writers, and community members. On this week's episode, Shannon is joined by community editor Luz Corona, breaking creative reporter Natalie Venegas, and senior agencies reporter Olivia Morley to discuss the development of the series and their contributions to it. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and...
Celebrating Women's History Month
March 28, 2022 15:57 - 32 minutes - 73.6 MBIn honor of Women’s History Month, Adweek paid tribute to those who are defying gendered expectations in advertising, marketing and media through a series of stories written by Adweek editors, writers, and community members. On this week's episode, Shannon is joined by community editor Luz Corona, breaking creative reporter Natalie Venegas, and senior agencies reporter Olivia Morley to discuss the development of the series and their contributions to it. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privac...
Inside Media's Breakthrough Agency
March 21, 2022 16:43 - 33 minutes - 77.2 MBHow did VaynerMedia go from being a creative upstart to being Adweek's Breakthrough Media Agency of the Year? In this episode, senior reporter Olivia Morley speaks to John Terrana about the agency's incredible year that included securing its creative clients’ media businesses and nabbing AOR duties for high-profile media accounts like Tinder, American Eagle, and ScottsMiracle-Gro. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.