Unfiltered: Real Church Planting Conversations
166 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 25 ratingsUnfiltered: Real Church Planting Conversations is a podcast featuring the often-missed conversations about church planting. Join hosts Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee, experienced church planters who lead a national church planting movement. You'll experience authentic discussions about real issues that church planters face. Lee and Danny hit the in-between-the-lines issues and talk about the topics you don't hear about when it comes to church planting.
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The end of an era
August 02, 2022 04:00 - 13 minutes - 13.1 MBIt’s the end of an era for the Unfiltered podcast. We explain why and share what’s next. 0:32 Lee lets listeners know this surreal episode to say good-bye is the last for Unfiltered. 1:28 Lee explains a couple different reasons why Danny and Lee are hanging up the microphones. 3:19 Danny thanks Lee for his impact and investment in Converge’s church planting movement. 5:10 Lee shares what the Lord has been laying on his heart when it comes to the connection between academia and pastoring...
Why is church planting so hard?
July 19, 2022 04:00 - 12 minutes - 11.6 MBStarting anything new from the ground up can be difficult. Whether it’s a new business or a new church, nothing is 100% fail-proof. But why is church planting so difficult? Let’s pull back the curtain and have a real and candid conversation about it. 0:28 Lee introduces the topic, which is a subject he and Danny deal with often. Why is church planting so hard? 1:07 Danny has a theory that because church planting is so personal, it makes it difficult. 2:23 Danny reflects on when he plante...
Is a church residency necessary for church planters?
July 05, 2022 04:00 - 14 minutes - 13.9 MBResidencies – they’re not just for medical students. A residency in a church can be a very helpful season for a future church planter. But what should a residency look like? How can it benefit both a church and someone receiving an education in ministry? And what’s the difference between an internship and a residency? 0:29 Danny introduces the episode topic of church residencies and internships when it comes to ministry. 1:00 Lee admits he’s passionate about the need for residencies and i...
Always Strive to Improve Your Preaching
June 21, 2022 04:00 - 16 minutes - 15.9 MBAs a pastor, it can be easy to slip into a comfortable rhythm and habit of preaching. And while change isn’t always easy, you should always be looking to improve and develop the way you preach. As the years in ministry slip by, it’s necessary at times to assess if your preaching could use some improvement; whether you’re a rookie or a seasoned pastor. Note: There are three books referenced in this podcast episode. They are: Biblical Preaching by Haddon Robinson, Communicating for Change by...
Church planting in New England
June 07, 2022 04:00 - 26 minutes - 24.4 MB0:24 Lee introduces episode guest, Wes Pastor. 0:40 Wes introduces himself and explains his connection to Converge 1:36 Lee asks Wes how he became a church planter in Vermont. 1:54 Wes shares that the reasons he planted in Vermont were because it’s an unreached area, it has a rich heritage, and there are lots of college towns. 2:40 Because Wes stayed at the church he planted for 30 years, Lee asks what advice he would give a church planter when thinking long term ministry. 3:30 Having a...
Takeaways from the Unleash conference
May 17, 2022 04:00 - 10 minutes - 10.3 MBRecently Converge held our annual Unleash conference. It was a time to gather nationally as a family to learn how to focus on growing every ministry and leader in churches. Highlights of the conference and the topic of ministering the way God made you to be as a church planter are covered in this episode. 0:21 Lee summarizes what Unleash is all about. 1:21 Lee asks Danny what he thought the highlights of the conference were. 1:26 Danny admits he was hesitant to attend Unleash because he g...
Where do I start if I think God’s calling me to plant a church?
May 03, 2022 04:00 - 11 minutes - 11.3 MBYou think God might be calling you to plant a church. But you know nothing about church planting. How do you even begin that journey? This episode holds a lot of wisdom about where you start and what to keep in mind as you contemplate this possible future. 0:21 Lee explains that in this episode, he and Danny want to address those who might be on the fence about planting a church. 0:55 Lee asks Danny what advice he would give to those thinking about church planting. 1:04 Working with guys...
Wrestling with your position of influence
April 19, 2022 04:00 - 14 minutes - 13.5 MB“The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill” is a podcast produced by Christianity Today and it has gone viral in popularity. What can we, as church planters and pastors, learn from listening to this story of a popular Seattle church exploding in growth, only to have it all fall apart to leave so many devastated? You don’t have to listen to that podcast first, before gleaning some wisdom from this episode of Unfiltered. It’s not uncommon for church planters to wrestle with their influence. Let’s talk ab...
Are you ready for Easter Sunday?
April 05, 2022 04:00 - 16 minutes - 15.2 MBEaster Sunday is arguably the most important Sunday of the year for a church. And there can be a lot of pressure on church planters with how they present an Easter service. As planters with experience, Lee and Danny discuss their thoughts on what pastors should and shouldn’t do on Easter Sunday. There are a lot of things for church planters to think through. 0:40 Lee introduces the episode topic of what a big deal Easter Sunday can be for a church planter. Lee advises not to launch on Easte...
Lessons learned seven years into planting a church
March 22, 2022 04:00 - 16 minutes - 15.9 MBChris Highfill planted Grace River Church in St. Peters, MO, seven years ago. In that time, the church has grown, relocated a couple of times, and gone from portable to permanent. He shares his journey as a church planter. He talks about the lessons he’s learned as a church planter. And he discusses the vision he has over the next few years so more people in Missouri can meet, know, and follow Jesus. 0:18 Lee introduces episode guest, Chris Highfill. 0:32 Chris talks about his church, Grac...
Planting and Growing Churches in Togo, Africa
March 08, 2022 05:00 - 17 minutes - 16.4 MBThe country of Togo, Africa, is known as the birthplace of voodoo and a place marked by slave trade. JJ Alderman, his wife, Melissa, and their three daughters live in Togo as Converge global workers, planting churches. JJ talks about what it looks like to plant churches in another country, and how God is moving in Togo. 0:21 Lee introduces special guest, JJ Alderman. 0:30 JJ explains where he and his family live. 0:40 Lee asks JJ to tell his story of how he came to live in Togo. 0:50 JJ ...
Guest Paul Turner discusses church planting in Northeast Ohio
February 22, 2022 05:00 - 16 minutes - 16 MBLee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee welcome guest, Paul Turner. Paul is the Coaching Director for Orchard NEO, an organization passionate about planting churches in Northeast Ohio and raising up church planters to spread the gospel throughout the area. 0:24 Lee introduces special guest, Paul Turner. 0:44 Paul introduces himself and explains his role at Orchard NEO. 1:19 Danny asks Paul to clear up any confusion of Orchard NEO being connected to another church planting organization. 1:30 P...
A church planter’s focus three months after launch
February 01, 2022 17:53 - 12 minutes - 12.3 MBAn Unfiltered podcast listener has asked, “What should a church planter focus on three months after a church launch?” In this episode, Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss a few things a church planter should focus on once after launch as they get into a ministry rhythm. 0:22 Lee shares that this episode’s topic came from a listener’s question and encourages all listeners to email their questions to Converge. 0:54 Lee introduces the episode subject, which is what a church planter sho...
Put me in, coach
January 18, 2022 05:00 - 13 minutes - 13 MBA high priority at Converge is to provide church planters with an excellent level of coaching. Having someone who has planted a church walk along side someone learning the ropes is a big factor in a successful church plant. Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss coaching, the value of it, how it’s more than just mentoring and what makes a good coach. 0:18 Lee introduces the conversation topic, which is coaching church planters. 0:58 Danny adds that Converge puts a strong emphasis on coa...
Budgeting for multiplication
January 04, 2022 05:00 - 11 minutes - 11.3 MBIf you have a vision as a pastor to make church multiplication a priority, it’s best to begin budgeting from the start of your church plant. Whether that’s to launch another church or become multi-campus, it’s a challenge to budget for it. Even though setting aside money in the budget to multiply can be difficult, it can be done. Danny Parmelee asks Lee Stephenson how he has done it and what advice he has for pastors looking to do the same. 0:19 Danny introduces the episode’s topic, which i...
The art of evaluation
December 21, 2021 05:00 - 14 minutes - 14 MBEvaluation can be a powerful tool to keep your church’s ministry on track. But what should you and your staff or launch team be evaluating? Sunday services, special outreach events, worship, different areas of ministry, and staff performance are just a few. Join Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee as they talk about creating a culture of evaluation in your church. 0:29 Lee introduces the subject of evaluation. 0:37 Danny mentions that evaluating different areas from the very start can be ben...
The relationship between a lead pastor and a worship pastor
December 07, 2021 05:00 - 14 minutes - 14.1 MBHow a lead pastor and the worship pastor work together has an effect on Sunday services. What should the relationship between these two roles look like? How do you work together to ensure attendees are having a meaningful Sunday worship experience? 0:20 Lee Stephenson introduces the episode topic that is relevant to church planters, lead pastors, and worship pastors. 0:40 Lee asks Danny Parmelee when he officially had a worship pastor when he was a church planter. 0:57 Danny discusses wh...
Sermon planning and a preaching calendar
November 16, 2021 05:00 - 16 minutes - 15.7 MBIn this episode, Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss planning out a preaching calendar. They share practical ways they plan their sermon topics and give insight into how they navigate their preaching calendar. 0:19 Lee introduces the topic of the episode – thinking through your preaching calendar. He asks Danny what his rhythm is when it comes to planning the timing of sermon series. 0:50 Danny shares how he preached expository through books of the Bible when he first planted his chu...
Your leadership style will change over time
November 02, 2021 04:00 - 17 minutes - 16.5 MBLee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee talk about how the leadership of a church planter will naturally change. Leadership at the beginning of planting looks very different than when the church is a few years old. 0:22 Lee introduces the topic of discussion: unique changes that take place as a leader. 0:48 Danny says he will share his experiences of learning from his mistakes. 1:16 Danny advises for new church planters to always say yes, and shares his reason for that strategy. 2:15 Danny sha...
Should Churches Hire Remote Staff?
October 19, 2021 04:00 - 19 minutes - 18 MBEpisode 89 // Should Churches Hire Remote Staff? Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss the pros and cons of church planters hiring remote people for certain tasks and projects. What might it look like to hire someone who never attends your church? 0:21 Lee asks Danny the rhetorical question, “Is it okay to hire someone who may life in a different city?” 1:15 Danny shares about a book that introduced him to the idea of hiring freelancers for certain aspects of church planting tasks and...
Planting in the Heartland district
October 05, 2021 04:00 - 22 minutes - 20.8 MBLee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee talk with the Director of Church Planting for Converge Heartland, Steve Krier, to discuss the challenges of planting in rural areas and what life is like in the district. 0:23 Lee introduces podcast guest, Steve. 0:40 Steve discusses where he’s from and where he serves as a pastor. 1:01 Steve shares a “fun fact” about North Dakota. 1:12 Lee asks Steve his reason for planting a church in the Fargo area. 1:25 A lot of people in the Fargo area know about J...
Maximizing your launch to gain momentum
September 21, 2021 04:00 - 16 minutes - 15.6 MBAs church planters prepare in the last few weeks before launch, what should the church’s grand opening day look like? Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee share their thoughts of what worked and what didn’t work during their experiences. 0:22 This topic is an extension of a previous Unfiltered podcast titled “30 days to launch.” 0:59 Danny discusses the importance of a church planter being in a healthy frame of mind, getting enough sleep and eating well in the stressful days leading up to la...
30 days from launch
September 07, 2021 04:00 - 18 minutes - 17.2 MBWhat should happen within the last 30 days before a church officially launches? There are a few bases a church planter needs to cover in the last push before a grand opening. 0:22 Lee Stephenson introduces the episode topic and asks Danny Parmelee about his experience of the month before launching a church he planted. 0:49 Danny talks about the importance of inviting anyone and everyone to a launch service. 2:25 Danny asks Lee about his experience in the last few days before a launch, and...
Let's get planning
August 17, 2021 04:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBWhen planting a church, a strategic plan is a wise first approach to solidify and implement the church's vision. In this episode, let's talk about the different approaches church planters can use to help build a successful strategic plan with their team that will last. 0:23 Lee Stepheson introduces the episode topic and asks Danny Parmelee if he used strategic planning during his church planting time. 1:17 Danny shares how through this process, he learned that planning was another passio...
Who do you love?
August 03, 2021 04:00 - 9 minutes - 9.12 MBChurch planters want their people to love their church, but they need to make sure their people fall more in love with Jesus. So how can they manage this tension? 0:17 Lee Stephenson introduces the episode topic and asks Danny Parmelee to share his experiences. 1:33 Danny admits that this was a weekly battle for him as a church planter and talks about his key indicator. 2:56 Lee says not celebrating the success of other pastors and churches in your community is a sign you’re starting a do...
Going from portable to permanent
July 20, 2021 04:00 - 17 minutes - 16.1 MBA key milestone for a church plant is the day it goes from a portable to a permanent location. But there are pitfalls to watch out for when considering signing a long-term lease or buying a building. What are they, and how can you avoid them? 0:40 Lee Stephenson introduces the topic and asks Danny Parmelee when he thinks a church planter is ready to sign a long-term lease or buy property. 1:47 Danny says church planters should plan to get a building from day one but not make it their goal....
Going multisite
July 06, 2021 04:00 - 17 minutes - 16 MBBecoming a multisite church is a great way to impact more communities with the good news of Jesus. Is your church ready to go multisite? 0:19 Lee Stephenson introduces listeners to the episode topic. 1:44 Danny Parmelee talks about how he was initially anti-multisite and how he came to see it differently. 2:33 Danny discusses how his church ended up choosing to do multisiting and church planting at the same time. 4:25 Danny says the key indicator when deciding to go multisite is if you w...
Church Planters Book Club
June 15, 2021 04:00 - 13 minutes - 12.7 MBIf you’re looking for some book recommendations, Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee have got you covered. 0:18 Lee and Danny talk about their reading habits and how they’ve changed during the pandemic. 2:14 Danny and Lee discuss their preferred learning processes. 3:31 Lee shares his first book recommendation: Can’t Hurt Me by David Goggins. 5:14 Danny’s first recommendation is The Start-Up J Curve by Howard Love. 7:32 Lee’s second book recommendation is ...
Special guest: Walter Angelica
June 01, 2021 04:00 - 13 minutes - 12.4 MB"We are in three cities. We speak two languages. And we try to be one church. It’s complex." Church planter Walter Angelica discusses the journey that led him from Argentina to Jacksonville, Florida, and beyond. 0:18 Lee Stephenson introduces special guest Walter Angelica, pastor of Iglesia Ciudad, a church plant with three congregations in Florida. 0:50 Walter talks about moving to Jacksonville, Florida, from Argentina to do his seminary work and how he responded to God’s call to plant a...
Special guest: Stanley Patton
May 18, 2021 04:00 - 13 minutes - 12.7 MBPastor Stanley Patton of Victory Church shares lessons from leading a multicultural, multigenerational church plant on Florida’s Space Coast during a pandemic. 0:18 Lee Stephenson introduces special guest Stanley Patton, pastor of Victory Church, a church plant in Melbourne, Florida. 0:53 Stanley gives a brief history of his church and talks about why he decided to plant in Melbourne. 1:33 Lee asks Stanley if he thinks Florida is part of the Bible Belt. 2:40 Stanley shares lessons he’s l...
Church Planting Weekend
May 04, 2021 04:00 - 10 minutes - 9.6 MBConverge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss Converge’s five-year church planting goal and how your church can participate in Church Planting Weekend. 0:18 Lee talks about Converge’s goal of planting 312 churches in five years. 1:20 Lee discusses how Converge came up with the number 312. 2:21 Danny asks Lee if they considered changing the goal because of the pandemic. 3:12 Lee says there are more people in the church planting pipeline than any other time in ...
Rural church planting
April 20, 2021 04:00 - 18 minutes - 17.7 MBSmall towns in rural America are big but often overlooked mission fields. Special guest Ty DesEnfants shares his experience planting a church in Wyoming. 0:28 Lee Stephenson, executive director of Church Planting for Converge, introduces Ty DesEnfants, who planted Prairie Hills Community Church in Lusk, Wyoming. 1:00 Ty talks about how God called him to start a church in a small town like Lusk. 3:00 Ty describes Wyoming "as a small town with really long streets." The population of the ent...
Which church metrics still matter?
April 06, 2021 04:00 - 17 minutes - 16.5 MBThings are different, but not everything has to change. Some past metrics are still working for the church. See if you are using these metrics and, if not, how they can benefit your church. 0:20 Lee Stephenson talks about how some standard metrics for pastors and church planters have changed because of the pandemic. 1:09 Lee and Danny Parmelee discuss the difficulty of determining attendance numbers during COVID-19. 2:51 Danny says it’s hard during this season to measure engagement and im...
Staffing in an economic downturn
March 23, 2021 04:00 - 20 minutes - 19.5 MBAs a church planter, your most valuable resources are the people who help you accomplish your church’s mission. How can you manage your staff well when times are tough? 0:18 This episode is a continuation of the conversation Lee and Danny had in the previous episode. 1:19 Danny points out a silver lining during this difficult time. 2:19 Danny recommends not to respond too quickly or emotionally if suddenly your giving is down. 3:35 Danny discusses looking at your current staff and assess...
Budgeting in an economic downturn
March 09, 2021 05:00 - 21 minutes - 19.6 MBThe financial hits have been one blow after another, especially for those starting something new. As a church planter, how can you budget for your church during this uncertain season? 0:24 Lee introduces this two-part series on the challenges that church planters face specific to the economic downturn. 2:07 Danny says most of the church planters he talked to weren’t affected as much as they were expecting at the beginning of the pandemic. 3:22 Danny says the most challenging thing about C...
Knowing your limits as a leader
February 23, 2021 05:00 - 14 minutes - 14 MBWhen you’re first starting out as a leader, you may feel like Superman and that you can accomplish anything. But you’ll quickly discover your limits. Learn how this realization can be a gift that allows you to lead in your strengths. 0:33 When Lee started his first church plant, he didn’t feel like he had any limits. 1:09 Lee thinks it’s a great gift when we become more in touch with our limits as a leader. 1:41 Danny talks about a dramatic change that happened to him about five years aft...
Politics & preaching
February 09, 2021 05:00 - 18 minutes - 8.72 MBWhen events like the storming of the Capitol happen, people look to their pastor to say something. How can you know what to say to them, or if you should say anything at all? 1:09 Lee asks Danny if his perspective on this issue changed over time. 1:53 Starting out, Danny didn’t want to say anything about politics and other issues. 2:47 Danny says the reasoning behind being cautious isn’t being politically correct, but not missing the opportunity in a very divided country to speak to someo...
Keeping staff & volunteers on mission
January 26, 2021 05:00 - 14 minutes - 14 MBKeeping your staff and volunteers focused on the mission is critical to developing your church plant’s momentum and growth and maximizing your impact in the community. 1:28 Danny discusses the dangers of playing the comparison game. 2:05 It’s important to find ways to reinforce the values over and over. 3:21 You have to constantly trickle the culture, vision and value system in the life of your people. You have to figure out different ways to communicate it, but never let off the gas ped...
The evolution of a preacher
January 12, 2021 05:00 - 15 minutes - 15 MBConverge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how their preaching preparation and process have changed over time. 1:00 Danny talks about his sermon preparation and delivery in the beginning. 2:16 Danny says a major shift came when his church went multisite and started prerecording services. He began having people give input before he delivered the sermon. 2:55 Danny says the preaching evaluation was part of his church’s leadership pipeline development. There w...
2020 year in review
December 29, 2020 04:00 - 9 minutes - 9.13 MBDespite the COVID-19 pandemic, 2020 has been an exceptional year for Converge Church Planting. Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss positive trends they’ve seen this year. 0:56 Lee talks about how Converge Church Planting started the year with great expectations. "We were building toward an internal goal of wanting to plant 312 churches nationally, among our network, among our movement, and then COVID hit." 1:18 A lot of people thought the church plan...
5 mistakes church planters make
December 15, 2020 04:00 - 15 minutes - 14.2 MBConverge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee want to help you avoid the common mistakes church planters make. 1:02 Lee says the first mistake is overspending. 1:13 Two things church planters overspend on are marketing and sound system/audiovisual. 2:02 Danny says the drive to overspend comes from the comparison culture. 2:34 Danny and Lee recommend having a coach to help you guard against overspending. 3:14 Lee says you need to create a budget and stick to it. 3...
Emotional intelligence
December 01, 2020 04:00 - 34 minutes - 31.7 MBDr. Scott Livingston joins Lee Stephenson, executive director of Converge Church Planting, to help you better understand what emotional intelligence is all about and how to process your emotions. 0:29 Lee introduces his special guest, Dr. Scott Livingston. 1:04 Scott explains what emotional intelligence is. 5:20 Scott says whether we have good emotional intelligence relates to how well we know ourselves. 6:47 How well you know yourself and the impact that emotion has will impact your ju...
When giving is down
November 17, 2020 04:00 - 20 minutes - 19 MBChurch plants are experiencing financial challenges related to the COVID-19 pandemic. Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how to handle budget problems. 1:41 Since giving can fluctuate from month to month, Danny says planters need to be careful not to overreact and make any super drastic, long-term decisions. 3:13 Lee recommends working with whoever handles finances in your church to project if we play out the same giving habits over the next (x) numb...
Social media & the church
November 03, 2020 04:00 - 19 minutes - 18 MBSocial media’s rapid growth offers great opportunities — and challenges — for churches. Abby Hillmer, creative director at Blu Wave Social, joins Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee to discuss how your church can improve its social media presence and engagement. 0:53 Abby talks about what she does at Blu Wave Social. 1:57 Abby shares how a church’s social media presence led her to decide to follow Jesus. 2:36 Lee asks Abby about the three biggest mistakes sh...
Communion & the offering
October 20, 2020 03:00 - 12 minutes - 11.5 MBAlmost everything about church has changed because of COVID-19, including communion and the offering. Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how to still include these elements in the worship experience. 2:08 Lee asks Danny: What have you seen done that is a complete mistake when it comes to offering communion? 3:11 Since passing the basket is out, probably for good, Danny says the simplest option is placing an offering box or bucket in a secure location...
The future of church buildings
October 06, 2020 03:00 - 9 minutes - 8.73 MBCOVID-19 has caused churches to change the way they do things, including how they use their buildings. Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss what church buildings will look like in the future and how they will be used differently. 0:46 Lee asks Danny if he thinks buildings will still be effective for ministry and evangelism post-COVID. 2:20 Danny says studio space may be more important than seating capacity. 2:48 Danny thinks this season opens up the o...
The new rules of engagement
September 15, 2020 03:00 - 17 minutes - 16.5 MBCOVID-19 has changed the rules of engagement for churches. Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how your church can make the most of this opportunity. 0:41 According to Barna, about one-third of practicing Christians (32%) aren’t attending church in-person or online. 1:11 Danny says the novelty of attending church online has worn off for people. 1:43 Danny says not having accountability makes it easy for people to skip church. 2:44 Danny feels the up...
Emotional & mental health
September 01, 2020 03:00 - 14 minutes - 13.9 MBThe COVID-19 pandemic is damaging people’s emotional and mental health. Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how the church can equip people to help those who are hurting. 0:22 Lee has had a lot of conversations with people who are struggling emotionally. He says a lot of people are wrestling with a lack of purpose in this season. 1:14 Danny says working from home has caused some people to lose purpose. 2:11 Lee discusses how different preaching to a screen and camera is from preachi...
Family matters
August 18, 2020 03:00 - 11 minutes - 11 MBFor church planters, the COVID-19 pandemic hasn’t just been challenging for their ministry; it’s also taken a toll on their families. Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee discuss how they and their families are navigating this difficult season. 0:30 Lee says this season has gone from being like a blizzard to winter to now more of an ice age. 1:17 Danny says the hard part is the unknown. 2:00 Danny asks Lee about what he’s been doing with his family this summer. 2:26 Lee says he’s taken up a...
Special guest: Matt Shull
August 03, 2020 15:00 - 13 minutes - 12.5 MBSpecial guest Matt Shull joins Converge church planting leaders Lee Stephenson and Danny Parmelee to talk about planting City Lift Church in South Florida. 0:44 Matt discusses why he decided to plant in South Florida. 1:42 Matt says his church started in his townhouse, then moved into a community center and launched in a high school. 2:13 Matt explains how his church has been able to connect with millennials and Gen Zers. 3:30 Matt discusses the importance of developing community and rel...