Things are different, but not everything has to change. Some past metrics are still working for the church. See if you are using these metrics and, if not, how they can benefit your church.

0:20 Lee Stephenson talks about how some standard metrics for pastors and church planters have changed because of the pandemic.

1:09 Lee and Danny Parmelee discuss the difficulty of determining attendance numbers during COVID-19.

2:51 Danny says it’s hard during this season to measure engagement and impact.

4:06 Online views don’t equal engagement.

5:10 You could waste a lot of time chasing after a somewhat meaningless number.

6:45 Often, numbers have more to do with our egos and insecurities.

7:35 "More than ever, it’s not about the content that a church is delivering. It is more about the conversation that the church is creating. So conversation equals engagement."

7:53 Are your giving units decreasing or increasing? If they increase, it’s a sign that more people are buying into the church’s mission and vision.

8:42 People you haven’t seen but are still giving indicate that they are still "with you."

9:39 Danny says stories are important indicators of the impact your church is making.

10:28 Stories should be celebrated and shared. The more you share them, the more it encourages other people to act and to be the church throughout the week in no matter what the context is.

10:59 Lee thinks it’s important to count who’s in some discipleship process. "How are people connecting with other people and growing in their own discipleship process?"

11:54 Danny talks about the value of surveying your people.

13:10 Lee and Danny discuss counting commitments to Christ and baptisms.

14:56 Lee encourages pastors and planters to set some personal metrics. Are you focused more on creating and pushing content? Or are you looking at creating a conversation that’s meaningful and caring for people?

16:04 Danny talks about setting goals you can control.