Underneath it All
35 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago -Underneath it All, hosted by Grizel, we introduce mental health conversations in a relatable way by using the Enneagram framework. We believe the Enneagram is a helpful tool that encourages self reflection, allows you to recognize your own differences and helps us accept the differences of others, without judgement.
Through these conversations, we hope you can have a better understanding of others around you, learn to accept and fully embrace your own narrative, and to continue breaking the negative stigma that has engulfed mental health.
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Type 9: The Peacekeeper
December 02, 2022 16:54 - 48 minutes - 44.5 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Episode 13: Type 9: The Peacekeeper Grizel is joined by Kelsie, an Enneagram 9 Mentor, who helps other Enneagram Type Nines deal with mental health, conflict, boundaries, and more. On this episode, Grizel and Kelsie talk about accountability to dig into emotions, the unique emotional thresholds, and how to hold space for conflict as an Enneagram Type 9: The Peacemaker. From Truity.com: Nines are defined by their desire to maintain a sense of inner pe...
Type 8: The Challenger
June 28, 2022 19:37 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MBGrizel is joined by Sandy Yang, a Human Design Expert, Certified Brain Rewiring Coach, and Energy Healer. She helps ambitious women understand their unique Human Design and step into their purpose with grace and ease with Brain Rewiring. On this episode, Grizel and Sandy talk about navigating relationships as an Enneagram Type 8: The Challenger. From Truity.com: Eights are defined by their desire to be powerful and to avoid any vulnerability. They present a confident, assertive, and decisi...
Type 7: the Adventurer
June 07, 2022 06:56 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MBGrizel is joined by Libby DeLAna, an award-winning executive creative director, designer/art director by trade…and she’s knows a lot about what its like to be a type 7. On this episode, Grizel and Libby uncover different reasons why wimhof ice therapy has impacted there lives in similar yet VERY different ways, and Libby shares different tools that have supported her wellness as “an Enthusiast.” Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it ...
De-Stigmatizing Medication
May 31, 2022 21:09 - 30 minutes - 27.7 MBOne of the most stigmatized topics in the mental health space is the conversation around medication. Host, Grizel is joined by Molly, who was diagnosed with Bipolar type 1 at the age of 21. Together, they share their personal experiences with medication and explore the nuances behind stigma. Medication Resources: Before you take psychiatric medication - Mind Mental Health and Meds: A Therapist's Advice on When to Consider Medication - Anxiety Medication — Blog — THE MENTAL HEALTH COLLE...
Type 6: The Loyalist
May 18, 2022 00:08 - 30 minutes - 41.9 MBLiving in the head space, the type 6's also known as The Loyalists, are the most devoted and committed of the 9 types. Grizel is joined by Gil, a type 6 who shares how she faced challenges at a young age and learned how to use them for growth. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check...
3 tips for figuring out your Enneagram type
May 03, 2022 18:24 - 7 minutes - 9.88 MBInterested in the enneagram but don't know how to nail down your type? On this mini episode, Grizel shares 3 tips for figuring out your type, as well as offers insights to why the enneagram framework can be a great tool for personal development. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Che...
Type 5: The Investigator
April 29, 2022 17:33 - 34 minutes - 47.4 MBType 5, the Investigator, are usually some of the quieter types of the enneagram. On this episode, Grizel speaks with Ben and Alex, and discover the reasoning behind their introversion and mindfulness. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes....
Mini Episode-ADHD
April 18, 2022 19:22 - 17 minutes - 15.7 MBResources from this episode: ADHD TED talk Speaker, Jessica McCabe. Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes Ologies ADHD Episode Resource Page UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide And be sure to follow Steph on Instagram at: @ninetypesco As well as her Podcast: askanenneagramcoach.com ...
Type 4: The Individualist
April 05, 2022 06:00 - 31 minutes - 29 MBAre they as unique as we think they are? On this episode, Grizel and Alex are joined with another type 4: Jo, who is new to the enneagram but passionate about sharing her authenticity. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-gu...
Creating Space for Reconnection
March 29, 2022 17:32 - 15 minutes - 14.3 MBAs we explore the Enneagram, its important to understand how to make space for the healing work in practical ways. In this episode, Grizel shares different resources and trauma informed grounding tools to do the work. Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-gu...
Leaning into Strengths & Type 3: The Achiever
March 22, 2022 14:34 - 43 minutes - 39.4 MBThis week, we’ll hear from Faye about her own perspective on being a type 3, as well as Stephanie Barron Hall, type 3 and well-known Enneagram author. Learn how to reframe your mindset, viewing the unique traits of your type as strengths that you can lean into. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram...
The Shadow Side & Type 2: The Helper
March 15, 2022 19:17 - 29 minutes - 27 MBOn this episode, Grizel talks with her good friend Katy, a type 2, about the importance of recognizing, understanding and accepting your shadow side,. Resources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Follow Katy on Instagram: @katykemms Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-...
Motivations & The Perfectionist (Type 1)
March 09, 2022 18:58 - 30 minutes - 28.4 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Episode 2: Motivations & The Perfectionist (Type 1) The second episode of the season, Grizel and Alex discuss motivations of the enneagram, as well as dive deeper into understanding Type 1: The Perfectionist. This episode features Stephanie Barron Hall, a certified Enneagram coach, author of the book, The Enneagram in Love: A Roadmap for Building and Strengthening Romantic Relationships, and host of the Ask an Enneagram Coach podcast. Join us as we ...
Exploring the Enneagram
March 01, 2022 15:08 - 32 minutes - 29.6 MBResources from this episode: Underneath It All Instagram: @underneathitallpod Underneath it All Episodes UIA is listener supported. Join our PATREON to support the show and have early access and more. Follow Grizel on Instagram: @_grizel_ Check out Steph’s guide at: https://ninetypes.co/selftyping-guide And be sure to follow her on Instagram at: @ninetypesco Buy the Enneagram Workbook HERE. Enjoy this episode? Rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen. It’ll help other peop...
Season 4 Trailer: The Enneagram
February 22, 2022 15:55 - 6 minutes - 5.92 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 4, Trailer: The Enneagram If you google search “The Enneagram,” you will get a million results —most of them being amazing resources explaining what it is, explanations of the 9 different types, subtypes, shadow sides, etc. However, if you read the intention of this resource, it was never meant to stop there. On this season of the Underneath it All, Grizel is joined by co host, Alex, as they explore the Enneagram, a resource created to help you explor...
Letting Go, Letting In
November 16, 2021 18:22 - 28 minutes - 25.8 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 8 - Season Finale Letting go, letting in. In the season finale episode, Grizel talks with Alex, the co-host for Season 4, about the upcoming changes for Underneath It All. After leaving the CDT early, Grizel went through a major growth period and started learning more about contentment and making healthier, more authentic choices. Long story short, this leads us to the Enneagram! It’s a framework of personality types, but more than that, it’s...
Biohacking
October 25, 2021 13:39 - 37 minutes - 34.6 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 7 - In this episode, Grizel has the opportunity to talk with Kourtney, a recent graduate student, who shares the ways in which she has learned to “biohack” her mental health, through both personal experience and her thesis “A Functional Approach to Depression”. Kourtney explains the biopsychosocial model of disease and how balancing our biology, our environment, our social life, and our mental health is the “formula” for sustained healing. Re...
Cultivating Contentment
October 11, 2021 13:39 - 38 minutes - 35 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 6 - Cultivating Contentment In this episode, Grizel talks about her search for everyday contentment, now that she is back home from the trail. This means spending a lot of time with family, working, cooking, and adventuring as a “weekend warrior”. While on a recent weekend trip, Grizel had the privilege of talking with a handful of strangers who share what their “contentment recipe” is for their own lives. This episode invites you to ask yourse...
Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 2 of 2)
September 20, 2021 13:27 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 5 - Testing our body, mind, and soul limits (Part 2) Part one of this episode was all about testing body and mind limits in the backcountry, but how do we test our soul limits in an honest way? On this episode, Grizel has an intimate conversation with one of her closest friends, Diane, as they discuss what it means to listen to your heart in a world that is constantly pressuring us to do more. Resources from this episode: Follow Diane on In...
Testing our body, mind, and soul limits (Part 2)
September 20, 2021 13:27 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 5 - Testing our body, mind, and soul limits (Part 2) Part one of this episode was all about testing body and mind limits in the backcountry, but how do we test our soul limits in an honest way? On this episode, Grizel has an intimate conversation with one of her closest friends, Diane, as they discuss what it means to listen to your heart in a world that is constantly pressuring us to do more. Resources from this episode: Follow Diane on In...
Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 1 of 2)
September 07, 2021 09:54 - 28 minutes - 26.4 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 4 - Testing Body, Mind, and Soul Limits (Part 1) Learning to listen to our mind, body, and soul is no easy task, especially when faced with inclimate weather and thoughts that want to lead to the “red zone,” also known as flight or fight response. In this episode, Grizel and her coach Liz Sampey face a terrifying storm, challenging the mind; Grizel experiences body fatigue, challenging her to listen to her body, and both discuss different ways ...
Managing Mental Health with the Climate Crisis
August 23, 2021 06:00 - 45 minutes - 41.7 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 3 - Managing Mental Health with the Climate Crisis The climate crisis becomes more apparent each day, and while on the CDT, Grizel faced many of its effects. From rising temperatures, to endless wildfire smoke, it’s hard to not feel its effects on our mental health as well. In this episode, Grizel talks with her good friend Ben Bishop, who is an agroforestry researcher at the University of Missouri studying agroforestry systems and tree crops. ...
Relationships in the Backcountry
August 09, 2021 15:03 - 41 minutes - 38.1 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 3, Episode 2 - As Grizel prepared to start the CDT, she sat down with her husband Eric for a candid conversation about mental health, the importance of therapy and how they handle the struggle of having a long distance relationship on the trail. In this episode they’ll answer a series of questions asked by the Underneath It All community and through this process hope to encourage important conversations about mental health with those you trust. Resourc...
Seeking Balace in the Backcountry
July 26, 2021 14:58 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MBSeason 3, Episode 1 - Seeking Balance in the Backcountry In the first episode of this season, Grizel reflects on previous backcountry experiences as she prepares to backpack/bikepack the CDT and introduces us to Alex, her friend and trail support for this summer’s adventure. This season of Underneath It All will be recorded while on trail, following the journey in real time. Grizel will be sharing her holistic approach to this outdoor adventure and hopes that these conversations will help...
Facing Demons in the Backcountry
June 21, 2021 06:00 - 45 minutes - 41.7 MBUnderneath It All is produced and hosted by Grizel. Theme music is by Passiflora. Additional Music was found by using Musicbed License. Podcast cover artwork designed by Hailey Hirst. Being in the backcountry for an extended amount of time can be a vulnerable experience for many of us, but if you add mental health issues in the backcountry, it can get scary, fast. After a 6 month hiatus from the podcast, Grizel, the host, jumps right in after working on her own mental health before ...
Feeling Big, Feeling loss
December 14, 2020 14:17 - 46 minutes - 42.8 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 2, Episode 2 - Feeling Big, Feeling Loss Hosted by Grizel Grief is complicated. It’s messy. It’s exhausting. And it’s SO much. But that doesnt mean we can't talk about it. On this episode, Grizel interviews Meg Yingling, who is a climber and guide based out of Estes Park, Colorado. Grizel and Meg have a vulnerable and raw conversation regarding the loss of two climbing friends, Kalley and Tom. Meg values the playfulness of outdoor adventure, and loves ...
Family Boundaries & Holidays
November 30, 2020 05:00 - 28 minutes - 26.4 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Season 2, Bonus Episode 1 Hosted by Grizel Caminas In the first Bonus Episode for Underneath it All, Grizel and Lauren discuss what family boundaries look like in a time of COVID and the holiday season. They go over questions like how to communicate our mental health needs when visiting family, how to have conversations with family about not going home for the holidays, and much more. Lauren Walther, LCSW/LCDC, currently lives in Austin, TX with her husband,...
"Be Alright"
November 23, 2020 05:00 - 1 hour - 57.3 MBUnderneath It All; Season 2, Episode 1 "I've never been interviewed like this. I wanted to show you all the real me. I wanted to share with you who I was and why I do the work that I do. Because for all you know, I'm just some person who's hosting a podcast about mental health stories in the outdoors. But there's a lot more to me than just my passion for storytelling. And before we dive deep into season 2, I thought it may help you , the listener, to understand why I'm so passionate about t...
The Wild Pine: Living With Bipolar 2
September 21, 2020 09:58 - 49 minutes - 45.6 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Episode 6 - The Wild Pine: Living with Bipolar 2 Hosted by Grizel Laura Niblack is a metalsmith living in New England with her husband Isaac and husky, Minka. In 2016, she quit her job to start her own small business, The Wild Pine, and has been handcrafting jewelry in turquoise and silver ever since. Only two years ago, Laura was hospitalized due to her most recent finding, being diagnosed with Bipolar Type 2. On the season finale, Laura and Grizel talk abo...
"Be a Man"
September 07, 2020 04:29 - 59 minutes - 54.9 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Episode 5 - “Be a Man” Hosted by Grizel Dr. Christopher Spromberg was raised in a small mill town in the beautiful PNW, but didn’t develop a relationship with the great outdoors until later in life. He recently completed his doctorate degree in clinical psychology and is now working as a psychologist in Montana, and is passionate about exploring the connection between masculinity and shame, which he wrote his dissertation on and is working towards publishing s...
Undernourished
August 24, 2020 12:35 - 46 minutes - 42.5 MBUnderneath It All Show Notes Episode 4 - Undernourished: Muffy J. Davis Hosted by Grizel Muffy J Davis is a dyke, a Pisces, a working class femme, a writer, a person who has recovered from an eating disorder, and a long distance hiker. She wrote a book called, “Ink in Water: An Illustrated Memoir (Or, How I Kicked Anorexia’s Ass and Embraced Body Positivity).” In Episode 4, Muffy and Grizel talk about one of the more challenging conversations in today’s society: Eating disorders and bod...
Port in the Storm
August 10, 2020 12:18 - 45 minutes - 41.8 MBNicole Antoinette (she/her) is obsessed with honest conversations. A writer, retreat facilitator, and host of the Real Talk Radio podcast, Nicole works to create resources and gatherings for people who crave deep, genuine connections—both with themselves and others. Offline, Nicole is an indoor kid turned long-distance hiker, and when she's not on trail you can find her living in a tiny white van named Trixie. In Episode 3, Nicole and Grizel talk about dealing with anxiety in a capitalisti...
Assigning A Negative
July 27, 2020 06:00 - 1 hour - 59 MBWill Robinson, also known as Akuna is an outdoor lover and thru hiker who has hiked 3 of the longest trails in the US, which includes the Pacific Crest Trail, the Appalachian Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail, which makes him a Triple crowner of hiking. In Episode 2, Akuna and Grizel discuss the effects of racism on Akuna’s mental health, living with PTSD, and how people with mental health challenges are often assigned a negative stereotype. They also discuss how racial injustice st...
Parabola
July 13, 2020 06:05 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MBVera Undertow is an outdoor enthusiast who enjoys hiking 14,000 ft peaks in Colorado. They are also a person who has struggled with depression, suicidality, anxiety, and gender identity. In the season premiere of Underneath it All, host Grizel and Vera talk about growing up where gender is assumed, the challenges that come with seeing a therapist, the negative stigma that has engulfed mental health issues, and how to move forward from different mental health crises. Resources From This E...
Welcome to Underneath it All
July 02, 2020 21:25 - 3 minutes - 3.49 MBWe often talk about these wild outdoor adventures we embark on, highlighting the highs, even the lows, but we forget to discuss how we got there in the first place. Underneath it All, hosted by Grizel, dives deep into the stories of everyday people who have or are currently experiencing mental health difficulties and how the outdoors has influenced them. Because sometimes, what drove us to climb the highest peaks was experiencing the lowest valleys of our lives. Through these stories, we...