Over It And On With It
635 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 2 years ago - ★★★★★ - 1.4K ratingsChristine Hassler provides you with practical tools and spiritual principles to help you overcome whatever obstacles might be holding you back.
Each episode, Christine coaches callers live on the air offering them inspiration and guidance to heal their past, change their present and create what they really want. Topics include: relationships, career, health, transitions, finances, life purpose, spirituality and whatever else callers have questions about.
Christine coaches "regular people" on problems – and opportunities - we all face. It's a show that reminds you that you are not alone, while also teaching things you can implement in your own life.
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CC: How To Be Vulnerable
December 07, 2019 13:00 - 13 minutes - 12.7 MBYou probably know vulnerability is important for your well-being and for healthy relationships, but what does vulnerability actually mean and why is it so hard sometimes? In this CC, Christine explains why we avoid vulnerability and offers you 5 tips for creating more vulnerability and intimacy in your life.
EP 221: Overthinking Decisions and Perfectionism with Quigley
December 04, 2019 13:00 - 53 minutes - 49 MBThis episode is about releasing your inner overachiever and fully feeling your emotions. Today’s caller, Quigley, has a pattern of overachieving and being a bit of a perfectionist. This pattern has served her and made her successful in many ways but deep down she feels unfulfilled and guilty. It is amazing how patterns and personality structures can take control of our lives. In this call, I share tools and techniques you can use if you relate to having similar traits. [For show notes go he...
CC: Answering your Questions on Prosperity, Part 2
November 30, 2019 13:00 - 17 minutes - 15.6 MBListen in as Christine answers questions on money and prosperity. Learn how to shift from scarcity to abundance thinking. If you want even more on this topic, you can get the full 90 min coaching on prosperity here: https://christinehassler.com/group-coaching-replays/ And remember, the early bird discount for Christine's Spring Retreat ends TODAY. To apply go to https://christinehassler.com/spring-retreat/...
EP 220: Getting Over Jealousy with Mattie
November 27, 2019 13:00 - 52 minutes - 47.8 MBThis episode is about releasing self-judgment and embracing self-acceptance. Today’s caller, Mattie, has a pattern of feeling jealous of other women, even friends. It’s not because she is a jealous person, it is because she has childhood wounding. A lot of us beat ourselves up when we are feeling jealous. Because we judge it as an unenlightened emotion we judge it as selfish and petty and it feels crappy. There is a way out. Jealousy isn’t bad. So if you are beating yourself up, listen to th...
CC: Answering your Questions on Prosperity, Part 1
November 23, 2019 13:00 - 22 minutes - 20.9 MBListen in as Christine answers questions on money and prosperity. Learn how your self worth impacts your net worth and much more! Remember the early bird discount for Christine's Spring Retreat ends Nov 30. To apply go to https://christinehassler.com/spring-retreat/ And attention health coaches!! Register for a free Masterclass training for current or aspiring health coaches here: https://christinehassler.com/primalhealthcoach
EP 219: Stop Going for Emotionally Unavailable People with Onalee
November 20, 2019 13:00 - 34 minutes - 32 MBThis episode is about releasing someone who is only supposed to be in your life for a season. Today’s caller, Onalee, has a pattern of going for emotionally unavailable men. If you have a pattern of going for emotionally unavailable people, it could be in friendships or romantic relationships or you could still be chasing the love of a parent who has always been emotionally unavailable. This episode provides you with guidance on how to shift out of behavioral patterns you may have had since ...
CC: How Your Emotional Health Impacts Your Gut Health
November 16, 2019 13:00 - 52 minutes - 48 MBThis is a unique episode as I am sharing an interview I did on another podcast called THE SHIFT PODCAST. The Shift was born out of the desire to help people to make their shift. It is an audio-documentary style seasonal podcast that will take you on a journey of insight, inspiration and aha moments that are curated to help you to shift. Season one of The Shift is focused on gut health and will explore all things around digestion, gut health, the microbiome and its link in disease. In thi...
EP 218: How to Stop Being So Hard on Yourself with Jennifer
November 13, 2019 13:00 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MBThis episode is about replacing self-judgment with compassion and seeing yourself for who you really are. Today’s caller, Jennifer, felt like she was unwanted and a burden as a child. As an adult, she judges herself for judging herself. We work through her childhood wounds and conditioning with compassion and understanding. If you relate to being hard yourself, your criticism is a reflex and a habit. It is not who you are. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode218] Sponso...
CC: Build A life On Your Terms with Kacia Fitzgerald
November 09, 2019 13:00 - 32 minutes - 29.8 MBIn this episode I talk mindset, overcoming fear of change and making empowering transitions with Kacia Fitzgeral. Kacia is an ex-corporate professional turned online health coach, business mentor & podcaster OBSESSED with helping women take PURPOSE driven ACTION toward building lives they really freaking LOVE. Her mission is to be a LIGHT to others, to give others the space to be their most AUTHENTIC selves and build their dream life on THEIR terms. She lives by the "airplane" mentality th...
EP 217: The Impact of an Unsupportive Parent with Sara
November 06, 2019 13:00 - 41 minutes - 37.9 MBThis episode is about working through the unconscious resistance that is keeping you from fully integrating healing work. Today’s caller, Sara, wants to bring love into her life and feels that she has done so much work. She is wondering why the work isn’t working. If you can relate to doing a lot of work but not seeing the impact or you have a lot of awareness but are not seeing the results, this call will help you to understand it and move forward. [For show notes go here: Christinehassle...
CC: Girl Talk on Building Healthy Friendships with Sarah Pendrick
November 02, 2019 12:00 - 36 minutes - 33.4 MBMeet one of my dear friends who was there when I met Stef for the first time. Sarah is an incredible advocate of female friendships and empowerment and is hosting an AWESOME festival Jan 24-26th in Newport Beach which Stef and I will be speaking at. Join us here: https://www.girltalknetwork.org/festival A little more about Sarah: Sarah Pendrick is a leader in the women empowerment space, an international speaker, serial entrepreneur and TV show host. Sarah has been named one of Forbes' ...
EP 216: Breaking Codependency with Gabby
October 30, 2019 12:00 - 30 minutes - 28.3 MBThis episode is about making your own decisions without seeking approval. Today’s caller, Gabby, is in a codependent relationship with her mom. Regardless of your own relationship with your mother, or if you deal with codependency, you will get a lot out of today’s episode. Mother-daughter relationships are one of the toughest relationships to navigate. But, if you can do so with love and success it can be one of the most beautiful relationships. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.c...
CC: Don't Keep Your Day Job with Cathy Heller
October 26, 2019 12:00 - 40 minutes - 37.6 MBCathy Heller is a fire hose of inspiration. She’s the host of the popular podcast Don’t Keep Your Day Job, which was given the #1 spot on iTunes recommend list of shows for the New Year in 2018 and 2019. She is a phenomenal coach for creative entrepreneurs and she’s helping people everywhere find a deeper sense of purpose and add their gifts to the world. Her new book "Don't Keep Your Day Job" comes out in a few weeks and she offers you an incredible bonus during the episode if you pre-order...
EP 215: I’ve Done So Much Work So Why Do the Same Triggers Keep Happening with Kelsey
October 23, 2019 14:00 - 34 minutes - 32 MBThis episode is about why things may not be changing even after you’ve done a lot of self-awareness work. Today’s caller, Kelsey, is in a new relationship but is still being triggered even though she is aware it is happening. We work through how she can get out of her head and release her self-protective behaviors. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode215] Sponsor: Rothy’s — Rothy’s makes everyday flats for women and girls on the go. They are stylish, classic, and comfo...
CC: Ultimate Health with Dr. Jessie and Marni Wasserman
October 19, 2019 12:00 - 43 minutesTune in for a great conversation with Dr. Jessie and Marni the co-hosts of the ultimate health podcast. We discuss everything from living a more simple life, top things we have learned from other health experts, and making BIG transitions in life. You can learn more about this amazing couple and check out their incredible podcast at www.ultimatehealthpodcast.com Also if you are interested in my signature retreat or the Event Luv event that I mentioned here are those links: https://christineha...
CC: Ultimate Health with Dr. Jesse Chappus and Marni Wasserman
October 19, 2019 12:00 - 43 minutes - 39.8 MBTune in for a great conversation with Dr. Jesse and Marni the co-hosts of the ultimate health podcast. We discuss everything from living a more simple life, top things we have learned from other health experts, and making BIG transitions in life. You can learn more about this amazing couple and check out their incredible podcast at www.ultimatehealthpodcast.com Also if you are interested in my signature retreat or the Event Luv event that I mentioned here are those links: https://christi...
EP 214: Stop Stressing Out About Being Single with Jessica
October 16, 2019 12:00 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MBThis episode is about self-acceptance. Today’s caller, Jessica, is longing for a relationship but doubting it will ever happen. She is having a hard time accepting herself and her current relationship status. This is a great call to listen to no matter what your relationship status because so much of what we talk about is about self-acceptance and self-compassion. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode214] Partners: Better Help — allows you to connect with a professional...
CC: Functional Health with Dr Will Cole
October 12, 2019 12:00 - 36 minutes - 33.8 MBDr. Will Cole is a leading functional-medicine expert who consults people around the world and locally in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He specializes in clinically investigating the underlying factors in chronic disease and then customizing health programs. Dr. Cole was named one of the top 50 functional-medicine and integrative doctors in the nation and is the co-host of The Goop Fellas Podcast. His previous book is the international bestseller Ketotarian, and his new book, The Inflammation Sp...
EP 213: How Your Fear of Failure is Sabotaging Your Success with Lindsey
October 09, 2019 12:00 - 39 minutes - 36.6 MBThis episode is about moving past your fears to take a risk, make a change, or pursue something you love. I coach today’s caller, Lindsey, on how to move from awareness to implementation. She knows the next steps to take but cannot figure out why she isn’t taking them. She thinks her problem is about time management, productivity, and balance but, as you will hear in the call, it’s not about that at all. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode213] Sponsor: LOLA — offers ...
CC: Answering Your Love and Relationship Questions
October 05, 2019 12:00 - 34 minutes - 31.8 MBThis episode is the last in a series of three where Stefanos and I answer questions about love and relationships. We cover everything from getting over an ex to what to write in an online profile in this episode. For more info on our program for women calling in their life partner, visit www.christinehassler.com/bethequeen
EP 212: Why Our Parents Trigger Us, No Matter What Our Age
October 02, 2019 12:00 - 35 minutes - 32.6 MBThis episode is about getting over what you didn’t get from a parent (or parents). Today’s caller, Samantha, uses self-criticism to protect herself from her pain. She is still holding on to her childhood anger over not feeling loved and acknowledged by her father. We work through her responsibility to re-parent herself, free herself through spiritual practice, and look at her father with compassionate eyes. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode212] Sponsor: Better Help—...
CC: Love Amplified with Christine & Stefanos
September 28, 2019 12:00 - 29 minutes - 27 MBWe are married!! In this episode we share some of our favorite moments from our wedding and answer listener questions about love and relationships.
EP 211: Letting Go of “Mistakes” as a Parent with Cathy
September 25, 2019 12:00 - 44 minutes - 41.2 MBThis episode is about breaking the cycle of generational patterns. Today’s caller, Cathy, experienced corporal punishment as a child and finds herself doing the same thing to her daughter. As you listen to the call, I hope you are able to separate her character from her behavior. Her behavior is a reaction to her past. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode211] Sponsor: Rothy’s — Do you use and abuse your feet by walking around in heels, flip-flops, or uncomfortable shoe...
CC: Being Single…the Ups, Downs and Opportunities
September 21, 2019 12:00 - 11 minutes - 10.7 MBI have been hearing a lot of people complaining about being single lately and approaching their relationship status as some kind of disorder that needs to be treated. I observe so many single people, especially the ladies out there, consistently working on themselves to find their “soulmate.” In today’s Coaches Corner I encourage you to be grateful for whatever your relationship status is – single, dating, divorced, engaged, married or it’s complicated – and embrace it because there is tre...
EP 210: Dealing with Pain and Health Concerns with Amber
September 18, 2019 12:00 - 28 minutes - 26.5 MBThis episode is about releasing shame about health issues and accepting ourselves without judgment. Today’s caller, Amber, was not nurtured as a child when she had an illness or injury. She has carried shame and unworthiness into her adult life. We discover that healing opportunities are available to her if she stops fighting and accepts them. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode210] Sponsor: Better Help— allows you to connect with a professional, licensed counselor or...
CC: Healing from the Epstein Barr Virus with Dr. Kasia Kines
September 14, 2019 12:00 - 56 minutes - 52 MBIn this episode Christine shares about her journey with the EBV virus and interviews Dr. Kasia Kines - one of the leading specialists on EBV. This episode is so full of information and reassurance for anyone dealing with chronic illness. You can access the links and programs Dr. Kines and Chrstine discuss here: I invite you to join Dr. Kines for breakthrough information on Epstein-Barr Virus in her FREE live webinars: “Three Secrets to Healing from EBV and Going from Feeling beyond Brok...
EP 209: Breaking Down Walls with Daisy
September 11, 2019 12:00 - 38 minutes - 35 MBThis episode is about feeling shut off and struggling with vulnerability. Today’s caller, Daisy, has created a behavioral pattern based on losing her faith in the universe at age 14. She thinks she is too much in her masculine ego, she is too judgmental and too cynical. But we discover she isn’t any of those things. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode209] Resources: Christine Hassler — Join the Free Over It and On With It Community. To watch episodes of coaching ses...
CC: Answering Your Questions on Love and Relationships
September 07, 2019 12:00 - 31 minutes - 28.8 MBStefanos joins me as we answer a variety of questions on love, dating, relationships and more!
EP 208: Breaking the Cycle of Abuse with Joe
September 04, 2019 12:00 - 45 minutes - 41.9 MBThis episode is about breaking the cycle of abuse. Today’s caller, Joe, just got out of a relationship where he abused his ex-girlfriend mentally, emotionally, and physically and she wasn’t the first. Compassion is key as you listen to this call. Being a human being is tricky. We never know someone’s backstory when we judge them. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode208] Sponsor: LOLA — offers a modern approach to feminine care that is for women by women. It is the best...
CC: Female Hormones, Weight Loss and Health with Dr. Beth Westie
August 31, 2019 12:00 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MBDr. Beth Westie joins me on coaches corner and we dive in to all things female! (this is a great episode for me to listen to as well and learn more about what women go through). We talk hormones, PMS, pre menopause, menopause and so much more Dr. Beth Westie is Doctor of Chiropractic, Author, Speaker, Women's Health & Nutrition Expert She is the author of the Best Selling book, The Female Fat Solution, the creator of the 12 Week Female Fat Solution Challenge, and the host of The Female H...
EP 207: Break Free of Your Fear of Being Seen with Teema
August 28, 2019 12:00 - 43 minutes - 39.9 MBThis episode is about a fear of being seen and a deep longing to be seen and have more intimate relationships. Today’s caller, Teema, is looking for guidance on how she can get over her fear of loss. But like many sessions, the call takes a different direction when we peel back what is at the true root of Teema’s question. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode207] Sponsor: Rothy’s— Your feet are one of your most important body parts. So much of what happens in our bodie...
CC: How One Broke, Fat Girl Transformed Her Life (and How You Can, Too) with Elizabeth Benton
August 24, 2019 13:00 - 33 minutes - 30.9 MBElizabeth Benton was depressed, deeply in debt, and obese. As a nutrition expert and educator who binged on junk food every time she put gas in her car, she felt like a fraud and a failure. Desperate to start truly living her life, she decided to believe in her potential rather than her past. She lost 150 pounds, paid off $130,000, and remains debt-free as a successful entrepreneur. Today, Elizabeth is the owner of Primal Potential. Through her platform of podcasts, coaching, and live even...
EP 206: Removing Yourself From a Work Relationship with Amy
August 21, 2019 12:00 - 45 minutes - 41.5 MBThis episode is about how to share your feelings in an empowered way. Today’s caller, Amy, is conflicted about trying to decide if she wants to get out of a work relationship she has with her dad. I coached her through how to have a tough conversation and offered her options on how she can get support on setting boundaries and empowering herself. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode206] Sponsor: Better Help— allows you to connect with a professional, licensed counselor...
CC: Answering Your Questions on Anxiety
August 17, 2019 13:00 - 24 minutes - 22.3 MBIn this episode Christine answers a diverse group of questions on dealing with anxiety. She covers getting through your day even with anxiety, navigating anxiety in relationships, getting over crippling anxiety and more!! These were questions from listeners on the Aug 5th virtual group coaching event.
EP 205: How to Take the Next Step with Katrina
August 14, 2019 12:00 - 43 minutes - 40 MBThis episode is about how to disempower your inner critic and use acknowledgment to motivate yourself forward. Today’s caller, Katrina, has a lot of old stories from her past about having to do it all on her own. She is in a place where she wants to move forward but she is also feeling a lot of overwhelm. There were a lot of different directions I could have focused on but I honed in on two key areas, acknowledging herself and asking for help from others. [For show notes go here: Christine...
CC: Get Better Sleep with the Sleep Doctor Michael J. Breus
August 10, 2019 12:00 - 36 minutes - 33.7 MBMichael and Christine talk about sleep - why it matters and how to get more (good quality) sleep. Dr Breus is a Clinical Psychologist and both a Diplomate of the American Board of Sleep Medicine and a Fellow of The American Academy of Sleep Medicine. He was one of the youngest people to have passed the Board at age 31 and, with a specialty in Sleep Disorders, is one of only 168 psychologists in the world with his credentials and distinction. Dr. Breus is on the clinical advisory board of Th...
EP 204: Being OK with Not Knowing Even When You Really Want Answers with Rachael
August 07, 2019 12:00 - 36 minutes - 33.7 MBThis episode is about not having all the answers and being OK with it. Today’s caller, Rachael, has always been a planner and likes to be in control. She brings forward great questions and is beautifully coachable. If you are a planner who likes knowing things, overthinks things, and likes to have things figured out, this call may help you to know and trust that the universe has your back. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode204] Sponsor: Skillshare — is an online lear...
CC: Be a Force of Wellness with Josh Trent
August 03, 2019 12:00 - 39 minutes - 35.8 MBToday I’m joined by my dear friend Josh Trent who is is the Founder of Wellness Force Media and host of the Wellness Force Radio Podcast. Josh has spent the past 16 years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world. This is an incredibly open, vulnerable and informative conversation - don’t miss it! And grab the free gift from Josh here: https://wellnessforce.com/morning-21-system/
EP 203: Stop Running and Rebelling with Jaz
July 31, 2019 12:00 - 40 minutes - 37.4 MBThis episode is about breaking old patterns of running, rebelling, or shutting down. Today’s caller, Jaz, grew up in a chaotic household with no soothing or comfort. Growing up in a non-comforting environment can lead us toward unhealthy coping strategies when we get triggered. We discuss ways she can bring calm and consistency into her life. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode203] Sponsor: LOLA — offers a modern approach to feminine care that is for women by women. I...
CC: Make Money Being YOU and Doing What YOU Love with Angie Lee
July 27, 2019 12:00 - 46 minutes - 42.3 MBWhat if Tony Robbins and Ellen Degeneres had a baby…well she’d probably be a lot like this week’s guest Angie Lee. Angie is podcaster, speaker, entrepreneur, marketing and sales ninja. Her genius is helping women master their marketing & sales, so they can make money doing what they love. What began as a "silly idea" in her dorm room 9 years ago, turned into a wellness brand that helped thousands of women. 1000's of videos, blogs and podcasts later (+ saying cya to corporate!), she became...
EP 202: Letting Go of Certainty to Pursue Your Calling with Kristen
July 24, 2019 12:00 - 35 minutes - 32.9 MBThis episode is about becoming free from pursuing external things to make us feel happy, validated, or loved. Today’s caller, Kristen, grew up in a household where her accomplishments were perceived as her value. During the call, we identify what is keeping her from moving forward to pursue her calling. And, work through ways she can overcome her fear of uncertainty. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode202] Sponsor: Amour Vert— is a sustainable clothing brand committed...
CC: A Meditation for Releasing Anxiety
July 20, 2019 12:00 - 20 minutes - 18.7 MBIt’s been a bit chaotic and challenging for many of you during this month, know you are not alone!! So many people are suffering from anxiety right now. Listen to this guided meditation to help release anxiety so you can feel calm and centered
EP 201: Dealing With and Healing Anxiety with Veruschka
July 17, 2019 12:00 - 35 minutes - 48.9 MBThis episode is about acknowledging and working through anxiety and panic attacks. Today’s caller, Veruschka, grew up in a fear-based household and for the last 20 years has experienced massive anxiety on both a physical and a mental level. We talk about the physical and emotional, psychological aspects that are causing her anxiety. And, the ways she can holistically manage the stress hormones released by her body with acceptance and compassion. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.co...
CC: Listeners Questions Answered
July 13, 2019 12:00 - 18 minutes - 17.4 MBChristine answers questions from listeners on unhealthy romantic patterns, dysfunctional friendships and dating consciously.
EP 200: Breaking Out of the Pattern of Not-Enoughness with Sara
July 10, 2019 12:00 - 49 minutes - 46.1 MBThis episode is about learning to meet your own needs to find fulfillment. Today’s caller, Sara, is not where she wants to be in life. Old programming makes her feel judged and unworthy. Sara, maybe like you, has a soul contract that she is here to learn how to parent herself. She chose parents who didn’t know how to meet her needs and didn’t know how to love her in the way she needed to be loved. We discuss ways she can empower herself to get everything she needs from within. [For show no...
CC: The New Wave of Masculinity
July 07, 2019 10:00 - 38 minutes - 36 MBStefanos joins Christine again to talk about men…what drives them? What issues are they facing? What do they need? Why is men’s work trending now? And so much more. Whether you are a man or a woman, you’ll find great value in this conversation. To access the free video training series for me go here: www.reclaimyourkingdom.com/mastering-masculinityAnd to check out Stefanos’s incredible course for men go here: https://reclaimyourkingdom.com
EP 199: Don’t Quit! Break Your Pattern of Starting and Stopping Things with Jill
July 03, 2019 12:00 - 40 minutes - 37.8 MBThis episode is about follow-through and commitment. Today’s caller, Jill, has a pattern of giving up on everything she begins. She recently quit her job, but she fears she won’t follow through with her new endeavor, based on her past patterns. Coaches, this episode includes valuable insights to use with your clients who are challenged in the area of accountability and building momentum. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode199] Sponsor: Rothy’s — Your feet are one of y...
CC: How to Be a Healthy Adult Even if You had an Unhealthy Childhood with Ali Golden
June 30, 2019 12:00 - 34 minutes - 31.7 MBThis is a MUST LISTEN!! So real, raw and FULL of wisdom. Christine speaks with Ali Golden, the author of “A Good Soldier.” When Ally Golden heads off to college, she breathes a sigh of relief; she is ready to discover herself, independent of her mother. However, this newfound freedom and several failed attempts at intimacy soon leave Golden feeling adrift. But even as she withdraws from the world, Golden feels an all-powerful emotional connection to the woman who raised her. Moving into adu...
EP 198: Stop Pleasing People with Laura
June 26, 2019 12:00 - 29 minutes - 27 MBThis episode is about reassurance. Laura is a people pleaser. She goes above and beyond for people and doesn’t get it back in return. She then feels disappointed. People pleasing is dangerous; we can become resentful and we are not being our authentic selves. I work with her on understanding why she people-pleases, why it’s selfish to be a people pleaser, and how to shift out of the pattern. [For show notes go here: Christinehassler.com/episode198] Resources: Christine Hassler — Join t...
CC: Self-Love with Melissa Monte
June 22, 2019 12:00 - 31 minutes - 29 MBMelissa Monte is a speaker, mindset mentor and host of the popular podcast Mind Love. Melissa is obsessed with learning what makes us humans tick. After spending too long as a guinea pig for bad decisions, she learned first hand how to undo a downward spiral. She’s now spent the last 10 years exploring methods of improving the human condition. Through raw stories, personal experience, and inspiring interviews, her podcast Mind Love highlights the incredible role of the mind in happiness, hea...