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Perry and Shawna

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The Perry and Shawna Podcast: Real life conversations reminding you that you’re Abba’s child and that you’re blessed to be a blessing and loved to share Jesus’ love.

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Freedom Friday

May 08, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings, Shawna shares how Jesus is setting her free from being controlled by the expectations of others.  She’s learning to make good decisions, she’s learning to trust God and not feel like she has to smooth everything over for everybody.  Then Perry shares about the first time in his life that he was aware of his sin: when he stumbled onto porn.  How it made him feel dirty.  That’s when he realized deep down that he had been disqualified from earning heaven.  But...

The Voices We Carry

May 07, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings JS Park joins the team.  JS is a hospital chaplain, blogger, teaching pastor and author of The Voices We Carry, moodypublishers.com.  His book is all about the voices, the thoughts, the messages that came at us from the outside world and then from our inner world.  Often these voices are wounding lies and to be made whole we need to recognize the lie and begin to believe what’s true. In our first conversation JS shares his own story, how he grew up feeling u...

All Things New

May 06, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna talk about how God always making us new.  He is always creating life out of death.  First, the hardship you may be going through right now is being turned into a song, maybe not a literal song, but it will be a message of hope born in the flames of your hardship.  And your song will cause “many to see and fear and put their trust in the Lord!”  Then Shawna reminds us, nothing is impossible with God—she shares how the Lord delivered her dad from smoking and healed his lu...

I Am Doing a New Thing!

May 05, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Perry and Shawna bring the hope of God’s promise that he is doing a new thing and now it springs up (Isa. 43).  First the new thing comes as we see the lies we believe for what they are:  Lies!  And then as we begin to believe the truth and reject the lies, the new things breaks out.  Then the new thing comes as we realize that the God who has rescued us in the past is the same yesterday, today and forever, and the new thing is him rescuing us again and continuing to rescue us till we see him...

North Africa and Middle East Awakening

May 04, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings discover the new thing God is doing in Muslim North Africa and the Middle East through Sat 7, a satellite Christian TV network.  (sat7usa.org).  Rex Rogers, President of Sat 7 USA shares with us first how more Muslims are watching their network than ever before because of the pandemic.  Then we have a conversation about what God is doing in real time in Turkey through Sat 7.  Response is way up and Turks are asking:  Is God angry with us?  Hearts are being o...

Winsome Witness

April 30, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Perry and Shawna welcome Tyler Ellis to the show.  Tyler is an author, speaker and messenger of Jesus who is probably the only person to share the gospel in a Ted Talk (Search “Finding meaning in daily acts of good” on You Tube).  Tyler had coffee conversations with 50 people and asked each person 20 questions to get at their core spiritual beliefs.  In our first conversation with Tyler he shares the story of how he got the idea for his approach to sharing the gospel.  (It was a conversation ...

We Need Each Other

April 28, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna focus on how much we need each other on this journey of life.  First we need to be able to share the worst about ourselves with each other because this is one of the ways we experience deep down healing.  Then we need each other in order to see our blind spots, to understand God better (because we each reflect God uniquely) and we need each other because in community we reflect our one God who is a community of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  And finally Perry shares a s...

First Things First

April 27, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

It’s been 2 months now since the outbreak of Covid 19 started to impact the U.S., and each of us, in a personal way.  The initial shock has worn off.  We’re getting tired of endless snacking, sweatpants, & Netflix.  It’s time to establish a “home base” that we can thrive in.  First things first…Worship! God is worthy of our praise. Not just 20 minutes a week when we sing on Sunday mornings but all of our everyday lives lived with the knowledge of who God is and love for who He is.  Jesus said...

Freedom Friday with Billy and Jodie Ballenger

April 24, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Billy and Jodie join the team on Perry and Shawna Mornings to share their story of redemption.  Billy is a Christian music artist and Jodie is the author of Beautifully Unbroken—A Prostitute’s Daughter.  Billy grew up being bullied and was robbed of his self-esteem.  Jodie was abused and neglected growing up and she and Billy met at reform school as teenagers.  They ran away together, got married, started running with dangerous people and ended up in prison.  And that’s where Jesus did a majo...

Fan or Follower?

April 23, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna talk about the massive difference between being a fan of Jesus versus being his follower with a big assist from Dan Mike, one of the teaching pastors at Crossroads Bible in Grand Rapids.  First a fan of Jesus is interested in Jesus but ultimately trusts in himself.  A follower of Jesus brings their desperation to Jesus and surrenders more and more to him as King.  And it’s never too late to begin following!  Then a fan of Jesus hears his words, gets goosebumps but doesn...

The Only Hero

April 22, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Perry and Shawna have a conversation about the only hero in the bible:  Jesus!  He is in every story and gives us power to breakthrough.  And the God of breakthroughs give us just enough strength for today:  Bible teacher Ray Vander Laan brings this to life with a story of a shepherd girl under a broom tree in the Israeli desert and Perry shares how he has experienced this truth in his struggle with shame.  And finally, if there’s an area in your life you need a breakthrough, tell Jesus about...

The Break in Breakthrough

April 21, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings David Doerner, teaching pastor at Frontline Community Church in Grand Rapids joins the team.  We talk about how spiritual breakthrough is like labor pains, it’s painful to give birth to the new things God wants to do in us.  David shares how he learned this early in his ministry on a mission trip that went off the rails.  Then, if the only thing that happens during this pandemic is that God’s love for us get pushed a little deeper, it will be worth it all. N...

This Isn't Working

April 20, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings we kick off a week of conversations on experiencing breakthrough.  First, if you’ve come to the place where you’re saying, “God I can’t keep doing this, I can’t go any further, this weight is too heavy,” you’re in a good place.  God has a word of breakthrough for you.  Then we talk about how it’s easy to lead when life is easy but much harder when it’s hard.  God is calling you and me as followers of Jesus to lead during this difficult time.  Not to wait til...

Freedom Friday with Perry & Shawna

April 17, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Freedom Friday is all about celebrating how Jesus has set us free and is setting us free.  First Perry shares how Jesus is healing him from shame.  Shame tells him, “What you have done and what has been done to you is who you are and who you’ll always be.”  Perry is learning to invite Jesus into those painful, shameful memories and hear him say:  “I’m not ashamed of you, I bled out for you.  You’re my brother!”  Then Shawna shares how Jesus is calling her to new risks of faith.  She loves to ...

You Are The Evidence

April 15, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

You are one of the most powerful evidences that Jesus is risen.  Your encounter with Jesus, your changed life is evidence that he lives!  But first we have some fun—we talk about how we’re finding silver linings in the clouds of a pandemic.  Then Perry and Shawna talk about how our faith in the resurrection is rooted in real events of history.  We talk about the acronym FEAT to build your confidence that he is risen!  And with that Dom shares his encounter with the living Jesus.  Next, it’s o...

Resurrection Life!

April 13, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Perry and Shawna talk about the blessings that flow from the resurrection of Jesus.  First Jesus’ resurrection and the giving of the Holy Spirit enables us to supernaturally understand the bible and helps us understand that the bible is one epic story that’s all about Jesus!  Next Jesus’ resurrection shouts that we really have nothing to fear.  Because the worst thing that can happen to us is death, and Jesus has conquered it!  And finally Jesus’ resurrection empowers us to live a new life:  ...

Good, Good Friday

April 10, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Singer, songwriter, and worship leader, Laura Story joins Perry and Shawna to help us relive Jesus’ amazing grace!  First Laura shares her own story of faith, we have a conversation about our tendency to try to earn God’s love, rather than just receive it and land with, the more we see the bigness of our sin, the more we see the hugeness of the cross and God’s love.  Then the Prime Minister of Australia opens the hour in prayer, he loves Jesus!  Next Laura shares the great hope of Good Friday...

You Are Wanted!

April 09, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings, the cross settles once and for all time that you are loved and wanted.  Shawna shares an early childhood memory that made her feel unwanted but how the truth of Jesus’ love for her shown on the cross is undoing that lie.  Then we talk about how God brings us into hard places to show us how needy and dependent and vulnerable we are without him—like right now in this pandemic.  This a moment in time to realize how needy we are, to realize that our greatest ne...

I Am Weak. I Am Thirsty.

April 08, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna have a conversation about how the realization of our weakness and need and thirst is always a good thing.  Because this drives us to the source of power and supply and cool satisfying water.  First Shawna shares about how weak she has felt this week, how she has cried in her need and how Jesus has answered her:  “I am enough.”  Then Perry shares how as a young man of 19 after tasting so much of what the world had to offer, he was deeply soul thirsty.  And how at a littl...

Who Jesus Really Is

April 07, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna have a conversation about who Jesus really is and what that means for your life.  First Jesus is completely unlike us—he’s God, but then, he’s completely like us, fully human—he gets us!   Shawna shares a story from a trip to Israel that made Jesus’ humanity more than just a concept to her.  Then Perry shares from his own life how Jesus is our light in our dark night of the soul.  And he shows us how we can be that light for each other.  And finally Shawna shares the be...

The Land Between

April 06, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings Jeff Manion, Lead Pastor at Ada Bible joins the team to talk about his book The Land Between—finding God in difficult transitions.  That’s where we find ourselves right now:  We’re not where we were, we’re not where we’re gonna be.  We’re in the middle, a desert really.  In the desert it’s easy to complain, but trusting God is the antidote for complaint.  And also we need desert to change us, to root out the bad and grow in us the good.  Then Jeff’s shares h...

Freedom Friday with Dan Seaborn

April 03, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Dan Seaborn of Winning at Home (winningathome.com) joins Perry and Shawna with a conversation of how Jesus sets us free from the fear that wants to cripple us during this pandemic.  We talk about the massive promise of comfort and shelter we find in Psalm 91.  We also talk about what Psalm 91 does not mean.  It doesn’t mean that we are promised a problem free life.  Or that we won’t get Covid 19.  It does mean that our eternal future is secure because of the cross.  Then Perry admits that he ...

Noah and the COVID, I Mean Ark

April 02, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today West Michigan writer and speaker Steve Norman (stevejnorman.com) joins the team to talk about the first human to ever shelter at home.  Noah!  Yeh the ark guy.  When the rains came Noah was shut in, he didn’t have control, and he was forced to learn patience.  At the heart of this conversation is that God has slowed us down to deepen our relationships with those closest to us, to restore any relationship that needs mending, to allow God to purify our hearts and to prepare us to be a ble...

Finding Hope

April 01, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna have a conversation about how we can find and grab hold of hope and share it!  First Shawna shares how her natural tendency is to stuff her feelings.  But she’s learning to open those feelings to God and to find hope from Him and then to speak His hope to her anxious soul.  Then Perry and Shawna respond to a listener’s question:  Is Covid 19 a judgment from God?  The answer they unpackage from Romans 8 is that it’s actually creation’s birth pains!  Finally we get really...

God of Wonders

March 31, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna have a conversation about seeing life through God-tinted glasses which leads to hope!  First we hear the amazing story of a killer attack dog that Jesus tamed to bring a whole family to Jesus.  Then we have a conversation about how we are works of art in progress, painted by the Master painter.  As God is painting sometimes everything looks wrong, but we need to trust him because he is creating a masterpiece.  And finally we hear Chris Clayman’s story.  He’s the author ...

Hope

March 30, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings we’re reminded that the God of all creation loves us, sent his son to save us, that he is with us right now and will never ever leave us!  Then we see that when God drops a dream in your heart it will be accomplished no matter how unlikely it seems.  For we are God’s workmanship created in Christ Jesus to do good works that God has prepared in advance for us to do!  Eph. 2:10.  And finally a conversation about how God helps ordinary people like you and me st...

Powerful Prayer

March 26, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings we take up the weapon of prayer and fasting to join with God in bringing healing to a quaking world.  First Shawna shares what fasting is and what God can accomplish in us and through us as we fast and pray.  And then, if Perry’s dad prayed to find a lost baseball in the tall grass and then stepped right on it, how much more will God hear our prayers for help and healing in the Coronavirus!  We’re led in a passionate prayer for the world by our friends from ...

The Corona Effect

March 25, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna talk about the good that is coming out of the pandemic.  First Perry shares the story of his brother Nate who’s had an awakening in his passion for Jesus because the crisis has brought him to the end of himself.  And we show that humility is the path to healing through the story of a proud man named Naaman.  Then Perry and Shawna share how they’re learning to keep their worries between sunup and sunset and trust God that he’s got this.  Then Steve one of our listeners r...

Strategy for Sheltering in Place

March 24, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna look at God’s strategy for facing this brand new normal brought on by the Covid 19 crisis.  First we need to feed our faith and starve our fears.  As we do this our lives will become a river of peace to those around us.  Second, we need to express our absolute trust in the Lord:  Perry and Shawna  talk about ways to express our trust:  Bring our fears to the Lord.  Fast and pray.  Pray God’s word back to him.  Trust that God is fighting this battle.   Sing of God’s neve...

We're Gonna Make It!

March 23, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings, reminders of the truths we need to stand on as world shakes.  First Chip Ingram reminds us to focus on the Lord’s promises and on our future that is secure because of Jesus’ death and resurrection.  Then Shawna and Perry point us to Jesus who suffered excruciating anxiety in the garden before going to the cross.  He shows us how to deal with our anxiety—pray, ask others to pray with you, ask God for what you need, and surrender your will to him.  And finall...

Freedom Friday with Perry and Shawna

March 20, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna share the hope and the power of Jesus and his word that frees us from despair.  First we share the story of how Jesus transformed Muslim born Umar from a hater of Christians into a man with a passion to share the love of Jesus Christ with Muslims.   Jesus unexpectedly took Umar home in 2018 and but if he could do one more thing I think he’d say, “Take the baton from me, bring the freedom of Jesus to my Muslim people!”  Find out how you can do that through prayer!  Then ...

Surviving the Storm

March 19, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna look at more ways we can not only survive, but thrive during the Coronavirus storm.  First we can’t be ruled by our feelings but shouldn’t ignore them either.  Shawna shares that feelings of insecurity have come to the surface for her in this crisis.  She’s allowing these feelings to point her back to the truth.  Then Perry shares how CS Lewis saw death as the beginning of the greatest adventure.  This hope inspired him to live life to the fullest and to say at the end:...

Freaking Out?

March 18, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna talk about how to find more faith in the midst of the Coronavirus crisis.  First Perry shares how his daughter Kali when she was six, wrestled with the paralyzing fear of dying in a house fire and the peace she found when Jesus spoke to her for the first time in her life.  We need the faith of a child in this crisis.  Then Shawna talks about a flight to LA, a man who made her feel afraid, which led to the worst case scenario thought that she’d be kidnapped by this guy. ...

Faith Over Fear

March 17, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We press into what it looks like to live with faith over fear in this Coronavirus crisis.  First Shawna shows us that even when our schedule gets messed up, even when we can’t go out to eat or to movie, even if we’re afraid of the unknown, faith over fear come from finding our joy in the Lord.  We are his beloved, nothing can separate us from his love!  Then Perry and Shawna point to early Christians offering sacrificial love when plagues ravaged the Roman empire.  They gave their lives for t...

"Take Courage, It Is I!"

March 16, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna point us to the remedy for the Coronovirus fears gripping the world.  First we have a conversation about how believing in Jesus as the Son of God  who rules the wind and waves, who created the worlds by his word, how faith in him gives us the courage to bring the power of Jesus in our fearful world.  Then we have some fun sharing times we’ve reacted poorly.  Perry shares about having a poor reaction to getting a birthday cake last week and this provides Shawna and Scott...

Freedom Friday with Perry and Shawna

March 13, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We celebrate how Jesus has set, and is setting us free.  First Shawna shares about growing up with this intense feeling that she was not wanted.  And how that in Jesus she knows that’s a lie and that the good news of Jesus is final proof that we are wanted by our Creator!  Then Perry shares how Jesus is freeing him from shame, how he’s inviting Jesus into all those painful rooms of shame from his past to bring him deeper healing.  Then we share a powerful declaration over the earth in these t...

Calling All the Messengers

March 12, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We wrap up our conversation on sharing the good news of Jesus (for now).  First Shawna tells us about a tool we can use can get spiritual seekers talking with God, putting them in the frame of heart to experience him!  Trypraying.org.  Then Perry shares more about the power of our story in bringing the truth of Jesus to those who don’t know him.  And finally Shawna talks about some simple steps we can take today to begin a fresh journey in sharing Jesus.  Pray for someone who doesn’t know him...

We Believe In You!

March 11, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Neal Karston of Big Life (big.life) coaches us to share the good news.  If we can do it, you can!  It’s a 4 part conversation:  First show genuine interest in the people Jesus is wanting to reach through you with a question:  What’s your story?  Then no matter how you slice it, it’s going to take some boldness to ask someone to share their story.  Next it’s vital to share our story of deciding to follow Jesus.  Neal breaks down how we can put our story into words.  Finally it’s time to share ...

Sharing Jesus

March 10, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Perry and Shawna continue to talk about what it looks like to share the good news of Jesus with those who don’t know him.  First, find out what Shawna’s love for coconut oil has to do with sharing the good news.  Then Perry and Shawna talk about how God can take what we think are massive failures to share our faith and use them to transform lives.  And finally we challenge each other to be intentional in building relationships with those who don’t know Jesus.  Right where you spend your time:...

It's Not That Hard

March 09, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We begin a week of conversations about ways we can share the good news of Jesus with those who don’t know him.  We can make this harder than it needs to be.  First Perry shows how sharing simple stories of what Jesus has done for us can draw people into new life.  The woman at the well’s testimony in John 4 was “Come see a man who told me everything that I ever did.”  And many believed.  God can do much with little.  Then Shawna shares that our role is to move someone one step closer to Jesus...

Freedom Friday with the Conquerors International Strength Team

March 06, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Mike Gruppen and Yago Williams of the Conquerors International Strength team join the Perry and Shawna Mornings.  The ConquerorsIST performs feats of strength all around the world as a platform for sharing the good news of God’s grace!   First Mike shares the story of he and Yago getting into a South African Youth Detention Center with 26 dangerous young people, who had just weeks earlier taken some of the guards captive.  Hear the story of how Jesus showed up!  Then Mike shares his story of ...

The Rest of Your Life

March 05, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna press into how we can know what to do with the rest of our lives.  It’s part of this week’s conversation of how we can know God’s will and direction and purpose.  First if we want to know what to do with the rest of our lives we need to know God’s story and how we fit into it.  It’s all about discovering that we’re part of a story that’s been going on from eternity past and will continue into eternity future!  Then Shawna shares that one of the major ways we can know th...

Change Your Mind!

March 04, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today Perry and Shawna continue to explore how to find God’s will and direction for your life.  It really comes down to resetting our thinking.  First Perry and Shawna share stories of how trusted counselors and friends can help reset our thinking and lead us in the right direction.  Then drawing from the life of Paul, Perry and Shawna show that it’s not all on us to make the greatest impact with our lives, we can trust God to make that happen.  And finally Shawna shares how she needed to cha...

Step Out In Faith

March 03, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

What do you do when you need direction, but you don’t have chapter and verse in the bible to show you what to do?  That’s the question Perry and Shawna take on today.  First, we need to be in the word, talk to trusted friends, pray, surrender our will to God, but at the end of the day, as Tim Keller shares, we need to make a decision and trust the outcome to God.  Then Shawna and Perry talk about how we discover God’s plan one obedient step at a time.  Shawna shares how doing that led to a mi...

How Can I Find God's Will?

March 02, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Have you ever had to make a decision and really longed to know God’s will for your life? How did you discern God’s will? That’s what we’re talking about this week on Perry &  Shawna Mornings. Today Shawna shared a time that she was faced with a decision whether or not to take a new job and how she flew to California to seek wisdom from a good friend. She ended up getting the clarity she needed before she even left the airport. You’ll hear how on today’s show. Then Scott shared about the anxie...

Freedom Friday with Jared, Matt, and Asherita

February 28, 2020 12:03 - 60 Bytes

Today on Perry and Shawna Mornings we try to shatter the myth that the journey with Jesus is about being all put together.  No, it’s messy, hard, joyful, scary, and exhilarating.  First author Jared C Wilson talks about how the path to becoming like Jesus is for messed us people like him, and you and me.  Then worship leader Matt Redman shares that when we surrender to Jesus, he begins this purifying process in us that is sometimes painful but filled with grace from our Abba Father.  Then Per...

He'll Never Let Go

December 05, 2019 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We're talking about three more names of Jesus:  Faithful, Teacher, and True.  Perry kicks it off by admitting his fear that maybe someday God will ask him to leave His family.  But faithful Jesus is his and our hope.  Shawna admits she wasn’t very good in school.  What??  But she is a great learner and she loves the great Teacher, Jesus.  Jesus teachings give us wisdom for real life, then he asks us questions to help us learn and finally his teaching shows us how to be truly human, a human cr...

Experiencing the Names of Jesus

December 04, 2019 12:03 - 60 Bytes

What name of Jesus best describes how you've experienced him in 2019 and why? Guest, Jason Hoffer, CEO of B2 Outlet Stores and pastor of Pathway Church in Zeeland shared how Jesus is our Redeemer. He’s redeemed our lives and He is still redeeming. When we hear others tell of how Jesus redeemed circumstances in their lives hope rises within us that God will redeem what seems to be loss in our lives too. Shawna shared how Jesus is our Prince of Peace. In her own life trust and peace have been d...

Jesus Is Not His Only Name

December 03, 2019 12:03 - 60 Bytes

On this episode we explore more of the names of Jesus.  Shawna shows us Jesus passion to be with us in his name Emmanuel.  Keoni Hughes, pastor at Grace Community Church, Hudsonville explains the name, Wonderful Counselor; that Jesus counsels us at times to take a path that is unfamiliar and unexpected.  He also shares that Jesus advises us to pray this risky prayer:  "Take from me whatever is in me that keeps me from being fully surrendered to you."  Perry loves the name, Jesus friend of sin...

Names of Jesus

December 02, 2019 12:03 - 60 Bytes

We kick off a conversation about the names of Jesus.  Perry shares about Yusef, a Muslim who longed to have a dream of Muhammed, and he did three times!  Expect in his dream Muhammed was kneeling before Jesus.  When we realize who Jesus really is, the Son of Man from Daniel 7:14, it should cause you and me not only to kneel before Jesus but to fall on our face in worship!  Shawna talks about how she "turtles" in relationships when she doesn't feel safe, but how the Good Shepherd gives her the...