Tales From The Fourth Trimester
167 episodes - English - Latest episode: 5 days ago - ★★★★★ - 14 ratingsA podcast dedicated to the beauty and brutality of new parenthood - because giving birth is the beginning, but postpartum is forever. Created by postpartum doula Naomi Chrisoulakis, each week she chats to women about their postpartum experiences and asks experts to share their wisdom.
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Life--and season 3--update!
April 06, 2022 09:00 - 6 minutes - 4.42 MBA quick hello on what's been happening in my life, what's going on with the podcast, and what's been keeping me busy (mostly, the Cocoon Cookie Mix, which is on pre-sale until the end of the week, link to order below) https://cocoonbynaomi.com/shop
10 | What is going ON with modern motherhood? With Dr Sophie Brock
October 10, 2021 08:00 - 49 minutes - 34 MBIt's the season finale, and I hope you enjoy this conversation with Dr Sophie Brock as much as I did. Sophie is a mother and a sociologist, and she believes that the ‘social’ lens of understanding Motherhood is a critical part of the revolution in Motherhood. Her vision is for a Motherhood liberated from patriarchal structural constraints, and a practice of mothering that is empowered. Find Sophie at https://drsophiebrock.com/ As ever, you can find me @cocoonbynaomi and www.cocoonbynao...
09 | An intro to going low tox with a little one, with Alexx Stuart
October 04, 2021 04:00 - 39 minutes - 27.1 MBPthalates, BPAs, triclosan, oh my! When we get pregnant and have a baby, we want to avoid anything that could be harmful - which is why it's so devastating to realise that toxins linked to everything from developing alleriges and asthma to the damage of sex organs in fetuses are found in so many everyday items. When Alexx Stuart started learning about what was in the products she used in her home, on her body and for her family, she wasn't planning on starting a business - but that's exac...
08 | Body image, bounce-back culture and the sane way to get fit and healthy, with Lyndi Cohen
September 26, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 47.8 MBLyndi Cohen is a dietician, nutritionist and mum to an 8 month old, who used to struggle with food and her weight - and she's open about how pregnancy and postpartum have challenged her all over again. I love Lyndi's BS-free approach to wellbeing, both mental and physical, and her commitment to calling out diet culture. In this episode, we talk about her experience of postpartum, as well as her thoughts on the bounce-back culture we're held hostage to after we have a baby, and how we can ra...
07 | Big feelings, boundaries, siblings and mother rage - the Aware Parenting approach, with Lael Stone
September 19, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 43.9 MBI'm joined by Lael Stone (https://laelstone.com.au/) on this episode to talk all things Aware Parenting and how it can help us find a happy middle ground between authoritarian and permissive parenting, through holding space, setting loving limits, meeting our own needs, and working through our own baggage. I love Lael! "We want to send them a message that says we deeply love and accept all of you. For a lot of us, we received the message as children that we were loved when we were behaving...
06 | How one woman found her voice while navigating NICU and special care, with Bec Mackey
September 11, 2021 21:00 - 1 hour - 66.2 MBIn this episode, mum of two Bec Mackey shares how her second birth and immediate postpartum made her and her baby "square pegs in round holes" in the hospital system. Complications during the birth, her determination to establish breastfeeding and Covid restrictions eventuated in Bec being forced to navigate the system in a way that left her, literally, on the floor. Her story is both illuminating in how easily women can fall through the cracks and a testament to Bec's strength in forging he...
05 | Breastfeeding, sleep, and why "lazy" parenting works, with Pinky McKay
September 05, 2021 06:00 - 42 minutes - 29.5 MBPinky McKay is one of Australia’s most recognised and respected babycare experts. In this episode, we talk about Pinky's own experience mothering four children and shutting out the "shoulds", what to expect from breastfeeding and baby sleep, and "lazy" parenting. She’s an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC), and best-selling author of 4 titles including Parenting By Heart and Sleeping Like a Baby. Pinky specializes in gentle parenting styles that honour mothers’ n...
04 | Multigenerational, blended households and postpartum nutrition without the pressure, with Megan van Genderen
August 29, 2021 04:00 - 32 minutes - 22.3 MBMegan van Genderen is a mother of two, stepmother of two and full time carer of her mother in law, who has dementia and Alzheimer's. Her fourth trimester with her second child was, let's say, a little different given her family makeup - they all live under one roof. In this episode, we talk about the challenges she's faced, and how she--as a nutritionist--nourished herself during her postpartum. Find Megan on insta @mvg_nutritionist and Oma @omasapplesauce
03 | Julie Tenner: birth as a rite of passage, parenting as a spiritual practice
August 22, 2021 08:00 - 56 minutes - 39 MBJulie Tenner is a mother of four, an experienced facilitator of deep women’s work, a naturopath, nutritionist, herbalist, counsellor, doula, intimacy and relationships coach and co-host of the Nourishing the Mother podcast. Julie’s wisdom has been such an influence on my parenting journey, and I’m so honoured to have her on the podcast. In this episode, we have a juicy chat about birth and motherhood as a rite of passage, parenting as a spiritual practice and so much in between. To conn...
03 | Birth as a rite of passage, parenting as a spiritual practice, with Julie Tenner
August 22, 2021 08:00 - 56 minutes - 39 MBJulie Tenner is a mother of four, an experienced facilitator of deep women’s work, a naturopath, nutritionist, herbalist, counsellor, doula, intimacy and relationships coach and co-host of the Nourishing the Mother podcast. Julie’s wisdom has been such an influence on my parenting journey, and I’m so honoured to have her on the podcast. In this episode, we have a juicy chat about birth and motherhood as a rite of passage, parenting as a spiritual practice and so much in between. To conn...
02 | How Chinese medicine influenced a first time mum's postpartum, with Kate Thomson
August 15, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 43.1 MBToday I'm chatting to Kate Thomson about how her professional experience as a midwife and Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor informed her postpartum, and how she helps other women. ~ Traditional Chinese medicine protocol for postpartum ~ food prep ~ home birth ~ breast feeding supply issues ~ donor milk ~ matrescence And heaps more. Find Kate here: https://www.themamasalchemist.com/ and here: @themamasalchemist If you enjoy this episode, please share it with a friend!
02 | Kate Thomson: how Chinese medicine influenced this first time mum's postpartum
August 15, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 43.1 MBToday I'm chatting to Kate Thomson about how her professional experience as a midwife and Traditional Chinese Medicine doctor informed her postpartum, and how she helps other women. ~ Traditional Chinese medicine protocol for postpartum ~ food prep ~ home birth ~ breast feeding supply issues ~ donor milk ~ matrescence And heaps more. Find Kate here: https://www.themamasalchemist.com/ and here: @themamasalchemist If you enjoy this episode, please share it with a friend!
01 | How to keep your relationship strong and connected in postpartum, with Elly Taylor
August 07, 2021 11:00 - 47 minutes - 32.5 MBNinety two per cent of parents report increased disagreements with their partner in their first year of family. Sixty seven per cent are less happy in their relationship. And relationship concerns are a leading cause of anxiety or depression in pregnancy and early parenthood – affecting as many as 1 in 3 mothers and 1 in 5 dads. Enter Elly Taylor, a perinatal relationship expert, author and founder of Becoming Us. She believes that partners can actually grow closer through parenthood, inste...
Guess what's coming?
August 05, 2021 23:00 - 9 minutes - 6.27 MBSEASON TWO, BABY! It's on the way, and the first episode is dropping on Sunday. Here, a little on what to expect, as well as a bit of a life update. See you Sunday!
87 | Season 2 coming soon + a little life update from me
April 11, 2021 06:00 - 5 minutes - 3.63 MB@cocoonbynaomi www.cocoonbynaomi.com
87 | Season 2 coming soon + a little life update from me
April 11, 2021 06:00 - 5 minutes - 3.63 MB@cocoonbynaomi www.cocoonbynaomi.com
86 | "I wanted my baby born into an Aboriginal context" - Bridget Brennan on Indigenous maternal care, grief, and birth during COVID
March 28, 2021 05:00 - 1 hour - 52 MBIn this week's episode, Bridget Brennan, journalist and former Europe correspondent for the ABC, tells her story of returning from London mid-pandemic to become a first-time mother. Despite moving back in large part for family support, border closures put an end to that plan. And after the crushing realisation that her mother wouldn't be able to be with her for the birth and postpartum, her father passed away just a day after her little boy was born. We talk about everything from the incred...
86 | "I wanted my baby born into an Aboriginal context" - Bridget Brennan on Indigenous maternal care, grief, and birth during COVID
March 28, 2021 05:00 - 1 hour - 52 MBIn this week's episode, Bridget Brennan, journalist and former Europe correspondent for the ABC, tells her story of returning from London mid-pandemic to become a first-time mother. Despite moving back in large part for family support, border closures put an end to that plan. And after the crushing realisation that her mother wouldn't be able to be with her for the birth and postpartum, her father passed away just a day after her little boy was born. We talk about everything from the incred...
85 | Siblings and babies and big feelings, oh my! With respectful parenting coach Alex Emms
March 14, 2021 05:00 - 58 minutes - 40 MBGoing from one child to two was without a doubt the hardest part of my fourth trimester this time around, and I know I'm not alone. Whether it's your second child or your sixth, the change of family dynamics is a big shift that is keenly felt by our older children (and us!). In this episode, respectful parenting coach Alex Emms (@kidsflourish) shares her wisdom as she goes through this shift herself, as a mum of a 3 year old and an 8 week old. Find Alex at www.kidsflourish.net If you loved...
84 | "The body keeps the score" - Jess, on sexual trauma, PNDA and conquering her past
March 07, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 44.6 MBJess, a mum of one with another little one on the way, shares her rollercoaster postpartum and how she conquered anxiety, depression and suicidal ideation. With the help of a counsellor, she found the link between a past sexual trauma in her twenties and her birth trauma, processed it and is now expecting her second child. If this brings up anything for you, please consider talking to a counsellor on the PANDA helpline: 1300 726 306 (Monday-Saturday 9am-7.30pm AEDT)
83 | "My postpartum transformed me" - Mel Richardson
February 28, 2021 06:00 - 1 hour - 45.9 MBMelanie Richardson shares how she went from a self-confessed control freak to surrender in this episode. We talk bedsharing, mother guilt, sex (or lack thereof), overactive pelvic floor and lots more.
82 | Starting solids with Boob to Food's Luka McCabe
February 21, 2021 06:00 - 59 minutes - 40.7 MBWhen should you start a baby on solids? What are the best first foods? How do you time it with milk feeds? What's the deal with baby led weaning and purees? I asked Luka McCabe--midwife, mum and nutrition consultant--to share some of her extensive wisdom on how to feed our tiny people and I learned a ton! Order her book, Milk to Meals, at www.boobtofood.com and follow her on Instagram @boobtofood
82 | Starting solids with Boob to Food's Luka McCabe
February 21, 2021 06:00 - 59 minutes - 40.7 MBWhen should you start a baby on solids? What are the best first foods? How do you time it with milk feeds? What's the deal with baby led weaning and purees? I asked Luka McCabe--midwife, mum and nutrition consultant--to share some of her extensive wisdom on how to feed our tiny people and I learned a ton! Order her book, Milk to Meals, at www.boobtofood.com and follow her on Instagram @boobtofood
81 | "I felt like I'd failed as a mother" - Kate Hassett
February 07, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 59.1 MBKate is the deputy editor of Insight Out and a mother of two. In this episode, Kate generously shares her experiences with endometriosis, surprise pregnancy, c-section, attempted VBAC, tongue tie, mixed feeding and more.
80 | Sleep and reflux myth busting with Dr Howard Chilton
January 31, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 44 MBI'm thrilled to have renowned neonatal paediatrician Dr Howard Chilton join me for this episode. He's a wealth of knowledge, so I asked for his take on two questions that occupy new parents' minds: what's going on with my babies sleep? And do they have reflux? I found his take on both these issues both reassuring and revolutionary when I first came across his work when Margot was small. I hope you find them interesting too! Apologies for the change in sound halfway - our Zoom call dropped ...
79 | "The second time, I allowed everyone to do everything for me" - Gabby Woodward
January 18, 2021 05:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MBIn this ep, Gabby - an old friend and yoga teacher - discusses her two really different first and second births (one hospital and one home birth) and postpartums (one that she didn't feel ready for and the next that she was very supported through). We chat about everything from placenta previa to breastfeeding and mum guilt, birth trauma and the stretch from one child to two. Thank you Gabby xx
79 | "The second time, I allowed everyone to do everything for me" - Gabby Woodward
January 18, 2021 05:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MBIn this ep, Gabby - an old friend and yoga teacher - discusses her two really different first and second births (one hospital and one home birth) and postpartums (one that she didn't feel ready for and the next that she was very supported through). We chat about everything from placenta previa to breastfeeding and mum guilt, birth trauma and the stretch from one child to two. Thank you Gabby xx
78 | "We kept things simple and supported" - Rosie Ricketson on her positive postpartum
January 03, 2021 05:00 - 1 hour - 44.4 MBRosie Ricketson is an artist and mother from Braidwood, New South Wales, and she offers women holistic pregnancy and postpartum support, education and coaching. In this episode, she shares the work she did and the support she set up to have a positive postpartum period with her daughter. To find out more about Rosie and how you can work with her: www.rosierick.com or @_rosierick_ Side note: Rosie took the SheBirths course - if you're keen to do the online course I have a discount code (co...
78 | "We kept things simple and supported" - Rosie Ricketson on her positive postpartum
January 03, 2021 05:00 - 1 hour - 44.4 MBRosie Ricketson is an artist and mother from Braidwood, New South Wales, and she offers women holistic pregnancy and postpartum support, education and coaching. In this episode, she shares the work she did and the support she set up to have a positive postpartum period with her daughter. To find out more about Rosie and how you can work with her: www.rosierick.com or @_rosierick_ Side note: Rosie took the SheBirths course - if you're keen to do the online course I have a discount code (co...
77 | Postnatal depletion: the signs, symptoms and how to get it sorted, with naturopath Kate Harrison
December 27, 2020 06:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MBOkay, you're past the first few months of motherhood, and you're just feeling... a bit crap. Listen in to hear the signs of postnatal depletion, what the physiological markers are and what exactly to do about it with naturopath, postpartum doula and mum of two, Kate Harrison. Because, as Kate says, you don't want feeling like crap to be your new normal. Find Kate: www.littleyarrow.com Instagram @littleyarrow
77 | Postnatal depletion: the signs, symptoms and how to get it sorted, with naturopath Kate Harrison
December 27, 2020 06:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MBOkay, you're past the first few months of motherhood, and you're just feeling... a bit crap. Listen in to hear the signs of postnatal depletion, what the physiological markers are and what exactly to do about it with naturopath, postpartum doula and mum of two, Kate Harrison. Because, as Kate says, you don't want feeling like crap to be your new normal. Find Kate: www.littleyarrow.com Instagram @littleyarrow
76 | "I didn't have that love bubble, and I wasn't myself" - Amber Giles
December 21, 2020 05:00 - 1 hour - 49 MBAmber Giles is a journalist and mum of one, and in this episode she shares her experience of discovering pre-eclampsia during labour, successful breastfeeding, postpartum anxiety - and what happened when she didn't feel that in-love buzz she'd expected. Amber chats about how she got through a tricky start with the help of her partner, family, friends and professionals and how she navigated the huge identity shift that motherhood brought. Oh and keep your ears peeled for her UberEats hack for...
75 | "The best way to deal with trauma is to talk about it" - Kyra Lee
December 13, 2020 06:00 - 1 hour - 47 MBKyra Lee is a social worker who specialises in working with pregnant women and new parents in difficult circumstances - and when she fell pregnant herself, she had to work hard to let go of all the trauma and worst-case-scenarios that she'd seen and heard. In this episode, we talk about hypnobirthing, her labour (induction, postpartum haemorrhage, fourth degree tearing), birth trauma, recovery complications and PTSD. But it's not all grim! A positive breastfeeding experience, good physical r...
74 | "New motherhood was the loneliest time of my life" - Rhiann McGarry
December 06, 2020 06:00 - 1 hour - 48.4 MBRhiann McGarry describes her fourth trimester as "treacherous". An older first time mum, she endured multiple losses before having an ultimately successful and smooth IVF pregnancy... only to be faced with a lonely and shocking fourth trimester - shocking, she says, because her expectations were way off, her baby was unsettled and not fond of sleep, and her friends had had kids a decade before she had. Listen in to hear the wisdom she's earned from her rocky but ultimately rewarding transit...
73 | 10 top birth and beyond tips from nurse, midwife, Calmbirth educator and mother Jen Troy
November 29, 2020 06:00 - 1 hour - 47.2 MBHow does a nurse, midwife and Calmbirth educator do birth and beyond? In this week's episode, Jen Troy of Seasons of Mama joins me to share it all - and her top tips. If you're pregnant, this ones a must listen! Find Jenna (and her beautiful products, including affirmation cards) at @seasons_of_mama She's kindly shared a 15% off code for listeners, too: cocoon15
73 | 10 top birth and beyond tips from nurse, midwife, Calmbirth educator and mother Jen Troy
November 29, 2020 06:00 - 1 hour - 47.2 MBHow does a nurse, midwife and Calmbirth educator do birth and beyond? In this week's episode, Jen Troy of Seasons of Mama joins me to share it all - and her top tips. If you're pregnant, this ones a must listen! Find Jenna (and her beautiful products, including affirmation cards) at @seasons_of_mama She's kindly shared a 15% off code for listeners, too: cocoon15
72 | "Nurturing myself was the best thing I did for my postpartum" - Elle Blanks
November 08, 2020 07:00 - 45 minutes - 31.1 MBICU nurse and mum of one, Elle Blanks, had an "amazing" first three months of motherhood, thanks to investing in her postpartum period, both by nurturing herself and allowing others to nurture her. In this episode, Elle chats to me about her experience with IVF, the birth of her little boy, and how despite breastfeeding issues, sleep deprivation and limited family support she had a wonderful postpartum period.
71 | "Home birth transformed my postpartum experience" - Zoe Roxon-Hunter
November 02, 2020 03:00 - 1 hour - 54.9 MBIt's home birth awareness week, so I wanted to share this story - one of the many positive home birth stories i soaked up as I prepared to birth my son. Zoe's two postpartums were quite different, and she attributes a lot of that to the way she birthed. Enjoy!
70 | How to heal your pelvic floor, with Bernadette Lack
October 24, 2020 05:00 - 59 minutes - 40.9 MBBernadette Lack is a midwife, personal trainer, mum and pelvic floor expert--she has helped hundreds of women sort out their post-baby pelvic floors with her Core and Floor Restore programs. Here, she shares her own experience with incontinence, pregnancy, home birth, and restoring her pelvic floor health... and gives plenty of tips on how you can too. Side note: when we recorded this ep, I was still pregnant and B was newly pregnant (but not publicly sharing that!). She's now in her third ...
69 | Emmeline Tyler: "How having Asperger's helps me mother"
October 18, 2020 05:00 - 56 minutes - 38.9 MBFellow postpartum doula and mother of one Emmeline Tyler shares her experience of what it's been like for her to go through pregnancy, birth and postpartum as an autistic woman. Tune in to hear about her surprise pregnancy, living and working in Arnhem Land, and her positive birth experience. Emmeline has a background in anthropology and linguistics, with experience working and living in remote Aboriginal communities. Through this experience, she has witnessed an authentic community and has...
68 | Robin McLeavy: "Pregnancy, birth and motherhood is a profound spiritual journey"
October 07, 2020 04:00 - 1 hour - 54.2 MBRobin McLeavy is a doula, hypnobirthing educator and actor who is able to articulate the experience of becoming a mother like no one else. Our conversation spans birth and postpartum, of course, but then we went into home birth, feminism, matrilineage, the mother wound, raising boys, parenting styles, gender politics, relationships and oh so much more. This conversation absolutely lit me up. For some reason my voice is a bit muffled on this recording - my apologies. But fortunately, the pe...
67 | Anne-Marie Cheney: "Going from a full-on career to the slowness of motherhood was a hard transition"
September 27, 2020 07:00 - 1 hour - 42.7 MBSo often we think of postpartum as a six week period that ends with a GP check. Why aren't we talking more about the massive shift that occurs for women way beyond those early weeks? Whatever you want to call it: psychological, spiritual, psychic... the identity shake up is real, and so is the change of pace. This week Anne-Marie joins me for a chat about her transition to motherhood and how she's handled a busy, successful career with parenting her two girls.
66 | What my (second) first forty days taught me
September 14, 2020 10:00 - 44 minutes - 30.2 MBA little six week update from me! I'm chatting about what I've been eating, the amazing meal train organised by friends, the role of my midwife and doulas, my physical recovery, breastfeeding, sleep, how my anxiety and mental health has been and lots more.
65 | What food your body really needs during pregnancy and postpartum, with dietician Renee Jennings
August 30, 2020 07:00 - 1 hour - 44.6 MBDietician Renee Jennings joins me on the podcast to chat about all things nutrition - she specialises in maternal health and is a mum herself. When she was pregnant with her first baby, she thought she knew all the right things to eat, but she's since discovered some surprising menu items that she's now incorporating into her second pregnancy, and she's sharing it all with us. As well as all her expert advice (including how to make the best porridge and all her tricks for making the most of ...
64 | The birth of Cormac Chrisoulakis
August 24, 2020 01:00 - 1 hour - 53.1 MBIt's taken me a few weeks to get my head around Cormac's birth: after a long, slow wait for his arrival at 42 weeks (on top of the pregnancy that took me through the horror bushfire season and the start of the pandemic) and a measured start to labour, at the end it was all fast and furious. Amazing but also confusing: what just happened? How did I not know he was coming? Wait, was I in transition? In this episode, my lovely doula Jerusha Sutton (www.jerusha.com.au) talks me through this am...
63 | Tara Ali: navigating a relationship breakdown during pregnancy and postpartum
August 17, 2020 02:00 - 1 hour - 41.5 MBTara Ali is a writer and mother of two, and in this episode she shares her two very different postpartums: her first baby was born after eight years of trying to conceive, and five rounds of IVF. When she fell pregnant with her second child, she found herself facing serious relationship challenges. Listen in to hear how she navigated complex issues as her pregnancy progresses and separated from her partner during her postpartum period, all while managing the needs of a toddler and a newborn....
62 | How to navigate new motherhood like a boss: maternity leave planning with Arianna Taboada
August 09, 2020 09:00 - 38 minutes - 26.8 MBArianna Taboada is a Maternal Health Consultant for entrepreneurs: she helps make their maternity leave and transition to motherhood smoother – while keeping their business thriving. Whether you work for yourself or someone else, what we're focusing on in today's episode could totally change the way you think about planning for your postpartum... it did for me! Her eco map is a brilliant way to plan your move into parenthood (whether for the first or third time). We also talk about harnessin...
61 | Emma Emmanuel: IVF, ovarian hyperstimulation, kidney defect and postnatal anxiety
July 25, 2020 06:00 - 47 minutes - 32.3 MBHow do you prepare for postpartum when you know your baby will be born with health challenges? In this episode, I chat to Emma Emmanuel, who's a mum to a one year old little boy and has had a bumpy ride to parenthood. She went through IVF, followed by severe ovarian hyperstimulation... and then found out that her little one was going to be born with a kidney defect. A difficult birth--for both Emma and her baby--was followed by her son developing sepsis at 10 weeks old. Add surgeries into th...
60 | What does the ultimate postpartum care look like? A chat with postpartum doula and chef, Rachael Hollinger
July 19, 2020 07:00 - 1 hour - 43.8 MBRachael Hollinger is a postpartum doula and chef who lives and looks after women in Pennsylvania - and she's one of the loudest advocates for the nourishment and nurturing of new mamas. In this episode, we chat about the state of postpartum care, what we'd love to see happening for women at this sacred time, what new mums can do to look after themselves and what we do as postpartum doulas with a strong food focus. I highly recommend Rachael's postpartum cookbook which you can find at http...
59 | Nadine Richardson: the SheBirths founder on how to have an empowered birth and postpartum
July 12, 2020 07:00 - 48 minutes - 33.6 MBNadine Richardson is Australia's leading birth educator and the founder of SheBirths, the only scientifically proven antenatal course that demonstrates significantly reduced need for pain medication, ceasarean section and tears. In this episode, I'm chatting to Nadine about her own birth preparation and postpartum, as why she believes the principles that ground an empowered birth (however it happens) are also key to a calm and confident postpartum period and parenting journey. To explore...