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Law and Legitimacy

506 episodes - English - Latest episode: 1 day ago - ★★★★ - 57 ratings

Law, politics, crime, and culture—in a word, "conflict".

If you have trouble telling the good guys from the bad guys, Law and Legitimacy is your podcast.

Norm Pattis is a trial and appellate lawyer focused on criminal defense and constitutional rights. Norm is also a long-time newspaper columnist and the owner of one of New England's oldest bookstores. A contrarian by nature, he believes that no group is quite so frightening as a self-righteous mob.

His objective? To make you think. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy.

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LAL Daily — January 20, 2023 — Follow Through Friday (FTF!)

January 20, 2023 14:08 - 32 minutes - 30 MB

Norm and Mike are engineering a new segment for the LAL faithful, called "Follow Through Friday" wherein cases that have been covered before will be updated, case brief style. Listeners should look forward to a precise command of fact patterns, attendant law, and key issues related to the cases and controversies covered. Due to the developing nature of high profile cases, FTF will highlight those cases with notable developments within their respective procedural timelines. Day 17 of the U...

LAL Daily — January 19, 2023 — Is Crowder Right?

January 19, 2023 13:34 - 33 minutes - 30.3 MB

One of America's most prominent conservative media voices, Steven Crowder, published a video in which he demanded that "Con Inc." should "do better" in relation to values it upholds by way of contract with its talent and creators. The context? Steven Crowder is a media free agent. Formerly under contract with The Blaze, Crowder and his agent have waded into the waters of free agency and solicited deals from various conservative media outlets in effort to find Crowder's next suitable busine...

LAL Daily — January 18, 2023

January 18, 2023 13:27 - 33 minutes - 30.8 MB

Promo Code "LAL2023" for a FREE 1-Month Subscription to Law and Legitimacy's Locals community.  In this stream, Norm and Mike cover: Sixth Amendment's guarantee of the right to confront an accuser; How Norm and Mike met SCOTUS divide, Reparations and what the San Francisco Draft Plan means for the future Norm is in D.C. defending Joe Biggs, one of the five Proud Boys defendants charged with seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. The trial is likely ...

LAL Daily — January 17, 2023

January 17, 2023 13:24 - 33 minutes - 30.2 MB

Week 3 of United States v. Joe Biggs begins, but it is only Day 2 of the prosecution's evidence. Norm talks about what the week will have in store.  Norm and Mike discuss an article from the Washington Post opining that the House Select Committee to Investigate January 6's efforts were lackluster and that the Committee caved to republicans and big tech.  The duo also talk about the split realities of an attorney in the midst of a case being covered by the press. Should LAL have a weekly ...

LAL Daily — January 16, 2023

January 16, 2023 13:22 - 31 minutes - 28.8 MB

Workers work. Strivers strive. It may be a holiday, but LAL is live on Mondays. Right at 7:45. Norm and Mike convene on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day to recap from yesterday's livestream with Laura Loomer, to discuss SCOTUS's grant of cert for Counterman v. Colorado and the nature of the "true threat" exception to the first amendment's guarantee of free speech, and to scratch the surface of the facially preposterous H.R. 61 titled "Leading Against White Supremacy Act of 2023."  Join us. ...

LAL Daily — January 13, 2023

January 13, 2023 13:21 - 32 minutes - 30.2 MB

Friday the Thirteenth! We make our own luck around here. Norm's suspension from the practice of law was temporarily stayed late yesterday afternoon by a Connecticut appellate court. What is next in United States v. Joseph R. Biggs et al.? Bryan Kohberger's preliminary hearing has been delayed until June 26, 2023, after his defense waived Kohberger's right to a speedy trial. What is the strategy here? President Biden is under the microscope for his possession of classified documents as a ...

LAL Daily — January 12, 2023

January 12, 2023 13:53 - 32 minutes - 30 MB

It may be the middle of January, but things are hot in our nation's Capitol. Norm is still in D.C. awaiting the court's decision in whether he will remain as defense counsel to Proud Boy and January Sixer, Joe Biggs. Michael has a wager. What's yours? Norm and Mike discuss: › Robert F. Kennedy and the Children's Health Defense Fund et al.'s lawsuit against the Washington Post, The Associated Press, Reuters, and the British Broadcasting Corp. alleging violations of antitrust laws and the ...

LAL Daily — January 11, 2023

January 11, 2023 13:24 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MB

Greg Abbot handed President Biden a letter during the latter's visit to the border. Jim Jordan is the Judiciary Committee Chairman, and will chair the House's newly formed subcommittee designed to probe the "weaponization" of the federal government. Joshua Browder, CEO of DoNotPay, wants his AI to argue in front of the Supreme Court of the United States. And he is offering $1M to the attorney that brings the case and acts as a meatsuit. Law and Legitimacy is live every day at 7:45a EST on ...

LAL #081 — Pete Atkinson: Faith, Art, and Entrepreneurship

January 09, 2023 12:24 - 1 hour - 102 MB

This is a great one. One of our best.  Welcome back to our more premium long form content. Our guest for LAL #081 is Pete Atkinson.  Pete Atkinson represents everything we as a country have to be optimistic about for our shared future. He is Canadian-born and raised in Washington, D.C. Pete currently lives and works north of Chicago. He studied Classics at Ave Maria University, founded a study abroad program in Rome and a Shakespearean acting program in Florida. He earned his Masters in ...

LAL Special — Jimmy Vallee: FTX, Blockchain, Crypto, Ripple and XRP

December 07, 2022 12:17 - 1 hour - 140 MB

He's back. Jimmy Vallee is the managing director and co-founder of Valhil Capital. He's appeared on LAL several times before, most notably on LAL #058. For a refresher, hop back to that episode and check it out.  Jimmy hangs out with Norm and Mike on a Rumble livestream to discuss blockchain, cryptocurrency, Ripple, and XRP. In particular, this episode focuses on the current status of SEC v. Ripple and Valhil Capital's amicus brief in support of Ripple in its case against the SEC. The cent...

LAL Daily — November — Norm is in D.C.

November 17, 2022 11:47 - 31 minutes - 57.1 MB

Norm opens the week from the famed swamp and our nation's great capitol, Washington, D.C. He is, of course, in D.C. for purposes of the criminal defense on behalf of one Joseph R. Biggs. Joe Biggs is one of several Proud Boys criminal defendants arrested in connection with the events of January 6, 2021, and who has by and through a third superseding federal criminal indictment been charged with seditious conspiracy. For those of you so inclined, you may support a rather tortured Biggs' crimi...

LAL Daily — Ron Coleman Joins the Stream! (November 8)

November 15, 2022 12:16 - 1 hour - 111 MB

Mike will talk until he's blue in the face about what it's like to sink into a conversation between Norm Pattis and Ron Coleman. If you follow him on Twitter, you'll see endless GIFs and pictures of Larry Bird and Joel McHale—Boston Celtics legends. That is the sort of remarkable chemistry Norm and Ron share, especially on matters of human intellect and spirituality.  American culture was gripped for a week-long eternity by the remarks of none other than Ye, formerly known as Kanye West. N...

LAL Daily — November 8 — Online Anonymity and the Value of Speech

November 09, 2022 12:29 - 33 minutes - 62.6 MB

It was a 2-stream day for Law and Legitimacy. Norm and Mike open the morning with the daily morning back-and-forth.  Norm doesn't want to spend $8 per month on Twitter any more than he wants to throw $8 out the window every day, but he does see some potential upside to Elon Musk's plan for verification on the platform. This launches a discussion about anonymity and pseudonymity on social media. Is social media snark equivalent to the efforts of Publius and the Federalist Papers? Find all...

LAL Daily — November 3 — Pelosi and #YayforYe

November 07, 2022 03:04 - 32 minutes - 62.3 MB

Norm and Mike peel back the facts involving husband of the United States Speaker of the House, Paul Pelosi, in a recent domestic matter in the San Francisco couple's home. Are there any reliable news stories?  Should we be afraid of political violence on the horizon? While most appear afraid to continue with honest discussion of the Ye cancellation, LAL stays in the saddle. The inimitable Ron Coleman will join LAL at 2:00pm ET on Tuesday, November 8.  Find all of our stream content at ...

LAL Daily — October 31 — Spooky!

November 01, 2022 11:39 - 35 minutes - 64.4 MB

Norm and Mike get it cracking on a Monday Halloween morning. Trick or treat? Norm and Mike discuss Elon Musk's recent announcement of his intent to form a content moderation board for the purpose of handling content on the platform.  Depending on the lens through which one looks, Twitter represents an accessbile entry point in the conversation about globalism and what those like Alex Jones might really mean when a reference to such is made. What is the outlook for Twitter under Elon?  ...

LAL Daily — October 28 — Twitter, Musk, Speech, and Ye

October 29, 2022 17:56 - 33 minutes - 62.4 MB

The news was dominated on Friday by Elon Musk's taking the reigns at Twitter, firing most of the C-Suite, and intimating that positive developments in the domain of speech are to come from the platform.  Norm and Mike review Elon's letters to advertisers, and then inquire as to the status of the most notable banned accounts on the platform—namely, Alex Jones and Kanye West.  What should our expectations be for the platform's future? Will Elon keep his promises? Follow Law and Legitimac...

LAL Daily — October 27 — Ye or Nay?

October 28, 2022 12:55 - 33 minutes - 60.3 MB

Norm and Mike remain steadfast in their commitment to patiently and precisely analyze the matter of Ye vs. the World behind the former's statements concerning the "Jewish media." Ye appeared on the Lix Fridman podcast last weekend. And in the wake of the corporate response to Ye's statements, Ye's YEEZY deal with Adidas has been terminated, along with his relationship with CAA, and various other material business relationships at home and abroad.  This is no doubt censorship, perhaps of ...

LAL Daily — October 26

October 27, 2022 11:23 - 35 minutes - 66.8 MB

Norm and Mike continue peeling back the layers of the Ye controversy and analyze the continuing fallout from various statements Ye made in connection with his mid-October appearance on "Drink Champs." Norm and Mike each listened to a recent podcast on which Ye appeared, hosted by none other than Lex Fridman. We strongly encourage our listeners to supplement this stream episode by visiting the Lex Fridman interview with Ye.  Like, share, and subscribe. Norm and Mike are live on Rumble eve...

LAL Daily — Livestream Debut (October 18)

October 19, 2022 19:05 - 30 minutes - 53.2 MB

Norm and Mike meet for the inaugural livestreaming episode of Law and Legitimacy.  Norm discusses being cancelled from radio behind the Jones verdict and takes the opportunity to re-introduce the foundations of Law and Legitimacy.  To whom and to what do we conform our conduct? We look forward to expanding the LAL audience and streaming every weekday at 8:00 a.m. eastern time.  All livestreams may be found on Law and Legitmacy's Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy Join u...

LAL #080 — Norm Talks the Jones Verdict, Being Cancelled from Radio

October 17, 2022 20:39 - 1 hour - 108 MB

$965 million.  That's before attorneys fees. That's before punitive damages.  The Connecticut jury in the second of three lawsuits against Alex Jones in connection with his alleged defamatory statements concerning the victims of the Sandy Hook tragedy awarded the plaintiffs a record-breaking sum of nearly one billion dollars.  Hot off a grueling six weeks of trial, Norm dusts off his mic and takes Mike through the details of what will go down as the beginning of one of the most histori...

LAL #079 — Mike Cernovich (@Cernovich)

September 11, 2022 14:49 - 1 hour - 120 MB

Our guest today needs no introduction. We're going to give you one anyway, because people deserve their flowers while they can still smell them.  Mike Cernovich is a father, husband, attorney, filmmaker and documentarian, social and political commentator, author, mindset coach, and modern American philosopher.  His Twitter following is among the most 'sticky' of metrics in the social media space. Mike is a prolific writer and thinker. And the engagement he receives with his ideas and opi...

LAL Live: Local Voting, Local Zoning, and How You Should Live (NPS August 30)

August 31, 2022 10:39 - 1 hour - 126 MB

One of the most hotly contested matters of local importance is that of land use and zoning.  Norm reports on a local member of a Connecticut community who has announced a lawsuit against a town following the town's denial of her land use proposal.  There is no hiding the burgeoning pressure being applied to local towns and municipalities as a result of the nationwide push for affordable housing.  Open Communities Alliance is the subject of this Connecticut community's story. The penult...

LAL Live: Student Loan Forgiveness, Mar-a-Lago Latest with W. Michael Boyer (NPS August 29)

August 30, 2022 10:01 - 1 hour - 127 MB

Norm is back on the air to start the week and it is clear he missed his new home at WICC. He spends the opening minutes of his segment by reviewing the results of the local bluefish fishing tournament and the various methods fishing tournaments deploy to ensure a presumed winner did not become so through cheating.  Norm is then joined by W. Michael Boyer, the producer of Law and Legitimacy and North Carolina-based attorney, as he is at the top of every week.  Norm and Mike begin the rece...

LAL Classics #039 — "A Lot of Business" with Ron Coleman (August 26)

August 26, 2022 10:24 - 1 hour - 114 MB

We continue our week of LAL Classics with something very special from the archives: Norm's interview with legendary first amendment and trademark and intellectual property attorney, Ron Coleman.  Ron is not only a partner at the esteemed Dhillon Law Group, but he is the host of is own successful audio-visual venture, The Coleman-Nation Podcast.  The central question of this episode is this: can we long exist as a society if we lose our tradition in the roots of faith? Norm took great p...

LAL Classics #077 — Jimmy Vallee on Cryptocurrency + Blockchain Regulation, XRP, Ripple and the SEC

August 24, 2022 11:31 - 1 hour - 110 MB

While Norm attends to the defense of Alex Jones in the Connecticut defamation lawsuit, we'll rewind our listeners to episodes we self-select as 'classics' within the growing LAL library. Please take this opportunity to share an LAL Classic with someone you know. Help us grow, evolve, and continue pointing a light of truth at our common conceptions of right and common interest.  A crowd favorite guest is that of Jimmy Vallee, managing partner of Valhil Capital and an outspoken critic of wha...

LAL Live: NC Supreme Court, Liz Cheney, and Dennis Rodman + W. Michael Boyer (NPS August 22)

August 23, 2022 10:27 - 1 hour - 127 MB

Norm is back! Well, at least for the moment. And he is joined as he is at the top of every week by W. Michael Boyer, producer for Law and Legitimacy and North Carolina-based attorney.  Mike begged Norm to give North Carolina a bit of the limelight this week, and Norm graciously acquiesced. On top of Mike's mind is the recent North Carolina Supreme Court decision in North Carolina Conference of the NAACP v. Moore.  In 2017, the Supreme Court of the United States held that 28 North Carolin...

LAL Classics #056: Norm Interviews Alex Jones, the Human Future Populist

August 19, 2022 10:21 - 53 minutes - 96 MB

This interview was originally published on October 2, 2021. With the defamation trial in Connecticut being ordered to proceed, this LAL Classics episode is a timely lookback at a rare, out-of-network interview with one of the most polarizing figures in American media and beyond.  Norm and and Alex sit down to discuss big tech and the modern threat to liberty. Do not be deceived—there is more to Alex than Sandy Hook. From time to time, Alex sounds prophetic.  Alex is a friend and client o...

LAL Classics #048 — Marc Randazza and the First Amendment

August 18, 2022 10:10 - 1 hour - 102 MB

While Norm goes into battle in defense of Alex Jones, we take a journey back just one year ago to Law and Legitimacy's interview with first amendment juggernaut, zealous legal advocate, and friend to both Norm and Mike, Marc Randazza (@marcorandazza). Marc is the founder of Randazza Legal Group, which boasts offices in Las Vegas, Gloucester, and Miami — https://randazza.com/ This interview originally aired August 15, 2021.  Marc's resume speaks for itself. And as you will hear, Marc ha...

LAL Live: Alex Jones to See Connecticut Jury + Rachel Maddow Anti-SLAPP-ing (NPS August 16)

August 17, 2022 11:27 - 1 hour - 125 MB

Norm opens the show with the announcement that the defamation suit against Alex Jones will proceed in Connecticut on Thursday, August 18, 2022. Norm is of course defense counsel to Alex Jones and will be in the arena with Jones as the court allows a jury to assess damages in a manner similar to that of the Texas jury.  Norm then reads a letter from a listener admonishing Norm to play fair when it comes to his criticism of President Donald Trump.  What is a strategic lawsuit against publi...

LAL Live: Where is the Search Warrant Affidavit? + W. Michael Boyer (NPS August 15)

August 16, 2022 11:34 - 1 hour - 127 MB

W. Michael Boyer, the producer of Law and Legitimacy and North Carolina-based attorney, joins Norm to begin the week.  Norm opens the show with a plea to Attorney General Merrick Garland to give the transparency to the American public that the AG is pretending to give. Where is the search warrant affidavit that was used to support the issuance of the search warrant as served and executed on President Donald Trump's personal home in Mar-a-Lago? Why is it that the American people have to rel...

LAL Live: Search and Seizure + Is Suppression Remedy Constitutional? (NPS August 12)

August 14, 2022 12:10 - 45 minutes - 62.2 MB

Norm only has half the time on this Friday Law and Legitimacy Live. That is the cost of being a full time and highly in-demand attorney. But he makes the most of the hour he has.  Norm opens the segment shadowboxing with Senator Richard Blumenthal's platform that appears to favor a federal police power and lack of accountability over the summer riots of 2020.  Norm spends time giving listeners a crash course the fourth amendment's guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures. He ...

LAL Live: 87,000 New IRS Agents + Unlimited Taxation? (NPS August 11)

August 12, 2022 11:23 - 1 hour - 125 MB

Norm is on fire. At the same time as this Administration is making pushes to defund law enforcement all over the country, to restrict law abiding citizens access to firearms, presiding over historic levels of inflation and geopolitical turmoil, it somehow has found reason enough to fund the hiring of 87,000 new IRS agents. Not only that, but the new hires should be willing to use deadly force in the enforcement of their duties.  Norm takes calls from listeners to discuss this development a...

LAL Live Part 2: Greg Dillon + Former FBI Agent on Trump Warrant Execution (NPS August 9)

August 11, 2022 12:18 - 45 minutes - 41.9 MB

Norm opens the second hour talking about donuts and the importance of spending locally.  Greg Dillon sticks around to discuss more about the FBI executing a warrant on President Donald Trump's home in Mar-a-Lago.  Norm recognizes that Donald Trump is one of the great spinmasters of all time. However, there is a legitimate question as to what the face of the warrant read and what the alleged scope to which the search was supposed to extend.  This question matters. The fruits of an invol...

LAL Live Part 1: Mar-a-Lago FBI Raid + The Mechanics of a Federal Search Warrant (NPS August 9)

August 10, 2022 11:15 - 46 minutes - 42.3 MB

Rest in peace to Olivia Newton John. Norm opens the first hour of the Norm Pattis Show by honoring the memory of the 4-time Grammy Award winning singer songwriter.  Norm then attends to a listener call about Joe Ganim, the current Mayor of Bridgeport, Connecticut, and the evidence presented by the FBI that eventually put Ganim in prison. The query: does Ganim deserve a second chance? In this case, the question is whether Ganim should be authorized to practice law again. Will the commission...

LAL Live: Alex Jones + The Faded Memory of Pleasure Beach with W. Michael Boyer (NPS August 8)

August 09, 2022 12:05 - 1 hour - 123 MB

Like, share, and subscribe! Norm is live every weekday from 12pm ET to 2pm ET on WICC600AM/107.3FM. Stream Norm live at https://www.wicc600.com/. Follow @PattisPodcast on Twitter. 

LAL Live: Trial Lawyer Star Jim Nugent on Alex Jones Trial (NPS August 3)

August 04, 2022 11:59 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Like, share, and subscribe! Norm is live every weekday from 12pm ET to 2pm ET on WICC 600AM/107.3FM. Stream Norm live at https://www.wicc600.com/. Follow @PattisPodcast on Twitter. 

LAL Live: Norm and Mike's First Date + Road Rage and Bail Reform (NPS August 1)

August 02, 2022 11:29 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm is joined for a double dose of W. Michael Boyer, the producer of Norm's podcast, Law and Legitimacy, and Greensboro, North Carolina-based business law attorney. Today? Norm reads a message a listener sent to Mike asking for the origin story of the Norm-Mike combo.  The two indulge. Mike gives his version of the shared history, detailing his own ignorance of Norm's celebrity at the point he began banging on the door for an introduction to Norm. Mike talks about the LinkedIn post that f...

LAL Live: Overton or Underton? Poll Analysis + Reparations with W. Michael Boyer (NPS July 26)

July 27, 2022 11:26 - 1 hour - 127 MB

Norm has W. Michael Boyer join LAL Live for a double dose on this Tuesday show. Michael is the producer of Law and Legitimacy and business attorney located south of the Mason-Dixon line.  In the first hour, the duo grapples with the Washington Post's recent analysis of the results of a University of Chicago Insitute of Politics' recent poll (read here: https://apple.news/Ahiyn-5D-T8uRtAaQ8u9L9Q).  Norm is troubled by the growing sense of a lack of legitimacy in the country. Michael is a ...

LAL Live: Natural Rights + The 4th Amendment, Bannon and Alex Jones (NPS July 25)

July 26, 2022 10:57

Norm opens the show this week by making reference to a new poll that apparently yielded this result: 1 in 4 Americans now believes it is time for the American citizens to take up arms against the government.  Norm is incredulous. Who sponsored such a poll? What interest does that sponsor have in asking such a question?  A listener calls in to offer his perspective and an anecdote related to the poll. This compels Norm to talk about the community welfare exception to the Fourth Amendment'...

LAL Live: Where's the Beef?! + J6 Committee's Resolute Failure (NPS July 22)

July 23, 2022 16:11 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm opens the show recapping his conversation with yesterday's guest, Lancaster Mayor R. Rex Parris. Mayor Parris is certainly a climate change hawk, but Norm found his position a bit incomplete. That is especially so given the rather extreme commitment to coercing individual compliance with whatever science-inspired policy mandates that are Americans are likely to see tested in the coming years.  The Mayor mentioned Bill Gates as a trustworthy authority on the topic. Maybe that is okay. ...

LAL Live: R. Rex Parris + Climate Change, Gay Marriage, Privacy (NPS July 21)

July 22, 2022 10:47 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm opens the show reflecting on the Dobbs decision and Senator Ted Cruz's recent remarks concerning the future of other supposed 'rights' derived by the Court pursuant to its right to privacy jurisprudence in recent decades.  In particular, Norm is preoccupied today with the thought that the federal right to gay marriage will indeed be the next to be peeled back. But he is uncomfortable with that. Of course, the decisions are a mess. But they're not ones that Norm is ready to disband the...

LAL Live: The Public Health State + Steve Bannon + Republic of Virtue (NPS July 20)

July 21, 2022 10:22 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm is still broadcasting from the shores of Lake Memphremagog, a glacial lake next to the border between Vermont and Quebec, Canada.  The first thing on his mind is the emerging public health state. This was a topic Norm unpacked a few weeks back and he was inspired to review the history of the separation of powers pursuant to the United States federal constitution. But? Federal power under the constitution has been a constant source of concern for those who have catalogued the stretch a...

LAL Live: Crypto Update! SEC v. Ripple Labs & Jimmy Vallee (NPS July 19)

July 20, 2022 12:08 - 1 hour - 125 MB

Norm opens the show by asking listeners to opine on the possibility that disgraced Bridgeport, Connecticut, Mayor might make a comeback in the realm of law and politics. And listeners called in in resounding fashion.  Joe Ganim served 7 years in a federal prison for a myriad convictions including extortion and wire fraud, but not before being elected as the Mayor of Bridgeport from 1991 to 2003. He won election again in 2015 and is currently serving his 7th term as Mayor of Bridgeport.  ...

LAL Live: W. Michael Boyer + Twitter Sues Elon Musk, Uvalde Update, Witchcraft (NPS July 18)

July 19, 2022 12:40 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm is joined as he is at the start of every work week by producer of law and legitimacy and North Carolina-based attorney, W. Michael Boyer.  On the menu for the first hour is the latest developments in the Elon Musk-Twitter acquisition efforts. In particular, Musk and his team sent a letter terminating the deal and Twitter has responded by filing a lawsuit in the Delaware Chancery Court seeking Elon's specific performance of the $44B contract between them, along with a motion to set an ...

LAL Live: Analyzing the Age of Consent + Statutory Rape + Abortion (NPS July 15)

July 18, 2022 11:02 - 1 hour - 125 MB

Norm is of the view that life begins at conception. He will even go so far as to say that there are circumstances that warrant taking that life.  The springboard for this conversation is the news making headlines about the 10 year-old Ohio girl who was brought to an Indiana abortion clinic to terminate a pregnancy. The supposed father has been arrested for statutory rape. Neither the 10 year-old nor her mother have made allegations of unconsented conduct between the two. But there is no do...

LAL Live: Should Parents of Mass Shooters Be Held Accountable? (NPS July 14)

July 15, 2022 11:33 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm opens the show with breaking news out of Norwich, Connecticut—a shooting outside the courthouse.  If ever there appeared a time in our nation's history that we need defense from each other, it is most certainly now. Norm references Thomas Hobbs' 17th century thoughts on nature. Is our social contract broken? With more than 300 mass shootings tallied for 2022 by the end of June, we should be rattled into real self-reflection about that. Norm takes a call from listener, Dorothy, to ta...

LAL Live: 'We Don't Want Another Kent State' + Alex Jones, President Trump, and J6 Hearings (NPS July 13)

July 15, 2022 01:37 - 1 hour - 126 MB

Norm opens the show with a somewhat redeeming story about the Wall Street Journal in response to a correction the publication made about Alex Jones and his presence at the Capital on January 6, 2021.  But the J6 Committee is doing damage. Norm uses the Wall Street Journal Correction to contrast the regrettable behavior of U.S. Representative Jamie Raskin and his role in the current politcal maelstrom resulting from the Committee's ongoing hearings.  While Norm rejects the proposition tha...

LAL Live Part 2: Masks, Proud Boys, and Listener Calls + W. Michael Boyer (NPS July 11)

July 12, 2022 12:05 - 45 minutes - 42 MB

Mike sticks around for the second hour of the show as Norm continues his Monday walk on the wild side.  The two first address the seeing reemergence of masks in response to the rising levels of the latest variant. Norm shares his reluctance to put one on and a nearing level of contempt for the idea itself. Mike agrees, expressing the apparent religiosity of it all.  Norm queries whether Mike is afraid of the Proud Boys as a way of connecting the otherwise separate concepts through the ob...

LAL Live Part 1: The Dichotomy of Liberty and Safety with W. Michael Boyer (NPS July 11)

July 12, 2022 11:30 - 45 minutes - 41.7 MB

Norm is joined as he is on the first day of every week by W. Michael Boyer, the producer of Law and Legitimacy and North Carolina-based attorney.  Norm opens the show with a monologue inspired by ParaCon II, Connecticut's first and original paranormal convention coming to the Ansonia Armory on July 16th and 17th. Find tickets here: https://paraconn.ticketleap.com/paraconn2/dates.  Norm is, as the kids say, "on one" today and in full comedic bloom as he catches up with Mike after his lake...

LAL Live Part 2: The Fourth Wave of American Constitutional Law (NPS July 8)

July 11, 2022 16:17 - 46 minutes - 42.4 MB

Norm opens the second hour discussing a recent headline in the Connecticut legal community, the matter involving lawyer Carl Ferraro of Norwalk, Connecticut. In particular, Mr. Ferraro has been charged with 8 counts of first-degree larceny for the misappropriate of millions in client funds from the law firm trust account.  One feature of this prosecution that bugs Norm is the court's requiring Mr. Ferraro to post a $2M bond in order to be granted pre-trial release. The Connecticut constitu...

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