Norm is joined for a double dose of W. Michael Boyer, the producer of Norm's podcast, Law and Legitimacy, and Greensboro, North Carolina-based business law attorney. Today? Norm reads a message a listener sent to Mike asking for the origin story of the Norm-Mike combo. 

The two indulge. Mike gives his version of the shared history, detailing his own ignorance of Norm's celebrity at the point he began banging on the door for an introduction to Norm. Mike talks about the LinkedIn post that first made him aware of Norm's really poorly produced podcast and why he felt compelled to connect with Norm. 

Norm returns the favor and gives his version of the shared history. Loyal listeners are already aware of Norm's total surprise that someone south of the Mason-Dixon line could form complete sentences, let alone have an honest compulsion to help a wretch like he. 

Mike hangs out and the two take calls. The beloved Dorothy calls in along with many others. The two tackle the concept of road rage and spend the last half-hour digging deep into bail reform. 

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