Why Kindness should be your superpower #23
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Find your voice - Episode 23 "She's just a normal girl" by Kelli Doorne #23
Tagline: "Even when times are tough, she still believed that kindness was her super power and that's what got her through... " - Kelli Doorne
Kelli Doorne, has finally found her voice, and I am the first to say YES!
Kelli bravely, opens up and shares her story of how she left home in her teenage years and became homeless. Realising that she was opting to run away when things got bad during her young years, Kellis fight of flight response never saw her stand up take account and fight.
But things have moved on so much because, even as a struggling teenager who couldn't find her way in life she always relied upon her Kindness and believed deep down that this would supersede all her problems and see her through. In agreement with her thoughts, we both emphasise what a better place the world would be if we could all just be kind to one another and help each other more often, because it's the right thing to do.
On a final note, knowing how much courage this took from Kelli to openly come onto the podcast and share her story I want to acknowledge her for her bravery, for the work she does in Milton Keynes and wish her all the best in the future.
I also would urge you all to follow her journey but just don't tag her into anything that is related to Octopus!
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welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host Aren
of the show himself mr. Aren do what's
going on people thank you for tuning in
to another episode of find your voice my
name is Aren and as always I am the
host of the show so firstly I just want
to begin once again by saying thank you
to every single one of you who have
taken time out of your day to try and
listen to our episodes I hope you find
them inspiring and motivating and I hope
they at least add some level of
information or tangible actions and
steps that you can incorporate in your
life now moving on to today's episode
again this is somebody who I think is
perfect for this show it's somebody
who's struggled to almost find her voice
and somebody who has suffered with some
level of adversity but also in terms of
just sharing her story up until today
she's found her voice and alongside that
she's also in a position now where she
wants to have a positive impact on
people who are perhaps going through
similar situations so this is a
fantastic story with Kelly who suffered
with homelessness and quite a few other
ups and downs as well in her life but
more importantly what I really loved
about this story was how it kind of
segwayed into human qualities and we
ended up speaking a lot about kindness
now I'm not sure about you guys
listening but I personally think
kindness is one of the number-one
attributes that we should all what we
shouldn't be born with really but I
suppose some of us can perhaps learn to
be more kind but I think if you all had
that in the back of our heads in all our
day-to-day actions I think the world
would just be a better place so without
further ado let's get this episode on
its way so firstly I just want to
welcome Kelly to the show today and I
want to thank the listeners for tuning
in
so Kelly how are you doing today yeah
good Erin thanks thanks so much
have me you're very welcome you're very
welcome so Kelly I'm myself actually we
both had a couple of drinks over the
weekend I had in mind 48 hours before
and you can probably still hear it in my
voice but Kelly obviously sounds much
better than myself so it's great to have
you finally here
we have had to rearrange a few times all
my fault that's all right well I'm just
glad that you're here today because I
think your story is going to be very
inspiring for a lot of people and I
think to get it started basically what
we can do is if you wouldn't mind is
just give the listeners a little bit
about yourself a little bit about your
journey your story and what basically
brings you on the show find your voice
today all right okay well first of all
it's absolutely terrifies me
but the reason I'm on here today is I am
using my story of when I was homeless
when I found myself homeless at 16 to
raise awareness and money to support a
local charity that goes a long way to
helping the poverty and homelessness
situation in Milton Kings I'm quite a
private person really but sometimes you
just have to use what you've got in
order to get results
so I guess my my journey starts really
in Nigeria which is where I was born I
was born is there be no quite a loving
family and but my dad was an alcoholic
and we went through some some troubling
times but the most of what I remember as
a as a youngster really was my mum and
her strength not not too much about my
my real dad and we I have another sister
and a brother who's disabled mum had a
lot on a plate and we spent a lot of
time why spend a lot of time kind of
being ferried about between my Nan's
house and my mum's house and kind of
having two homes I guess mm-hmm so he
yeah eventually mum kicked dad out for
there for the final time and we we moved
quite
few miles away to be moved up to Newport
Pagnell which is just on the outskirts
of Milton Keynes that stage of my life
was where it is interesting I felt
really ostracized out of place and
different from everybody I'd grown up in
in London my mother in North London and
I felt a bit rough I felt like so rough
around the edges and all my new friends
had pretty long blonde hair and there
was me with like brown spiky hair and i
felt quite different but nevertheless we
kind of made it you know we made it we
made it through really my mum my sister
and I um just by keeping quite tight and
but then but then things started to
change and I don't know you know what
your experience offers being a teenager
but actually with the hormones and
changes and friend groups and you know
expectations and all different stuff
comes into your life and at that point I
kind of started to break away from my
family and my sister had moved out and
she was she was my rock my mum had a new
boyfriend
and soon to be married they had a new
baby and everything kind of changed for
me and instead of dealing with it I at
13 I found raves and I started going out
raving instead right so that was really
the point in my life where you know I
start to pay a bit too hard and a bit
too young and it was at a point when I
think it's like 19 3 maybe a little no
not 93 sorry a little bit later when my
my sister was a couple of years old then
incident happened where I thought I
thought that I might have have really
hurt my little sister and I and I
freaked out
and instead of once again dealing with
it and talking to my family
I just ran away and I ran away from home
nobody knew where I was I didn't know I
didn't quite understand it myself
and by just yeah I had to escape so I
ended up sleeping in hostels under a
bridge one night and it was a is pretty
terrifying it's pretty terrifying
Wow but I don't even know to start with
that there's so many things that I want
to pull out from your story there if we
just quickly go on that a last bit that
you mentioned so you were sleeping in
hostels you were sleeping under bridges
how long did this period lasts for well
it's our monastery no don't I can't
quite remember and it's gonna be like a
couple of weeks where I was I had
literally nothing no home no nothing I
was surviving by as I go into the hostel
they give me a cup of tea and a biscuit
in the evening I remember then I had to
go and sleep in these dormitories and
they have like plastic sheets from the
bed and you know I was sixteen years old
only 16 years old and I was actually run
away from home for about six months went
back tried living at home and then ran
away again because but obviously
ostracized myself at that point quite
drastically but the period of actually
like being entirely homeless was
probably a few weeks my first steps
going to the church eating lunch is is
lonely so lonely Wow I mean I can only
imagine I've heard I've heard stories
and we have been very fortunate to have
had somebody who suffered with
homelessness on this show earlier when
we first started and it's even the way
you described it now it almost sounds
horrific I mean even at home in my own
comfort of my own home when when the
heating's low you feel that straight
away so to imagine as a very young
teenager 16 year old having to cope with
that but one of the things that I found
prevalent from your story and a couple
of times you mentioned it was whenever
something was going wrong you were
almost running away as opposed to kind
of facing your fear yeah and the
I want to point that out just for the
audience as well because obviously we've
spoken offline as well and you coming on
this show has has taken the immense
courage so I fully appreciate and I'm
very grateful you're sharing this story
because I know what it's like to have
anxiety to have shyness to kind of find
your voice if we use the cliche and I'm
very grateful that you're in a position
now obviously wiser from the experience
and everything that you've been through
to now use your voice to do the great
things like you mentioned the local
charity that you're now working with in
Milton Keynes which is fantastic because
I'm sure that's gonna help people who
may be in a similar situation to
yourself
on that note though are you finding if
for instance you went through some
adversity today are you still doing the
whole fight-or-flight thing and are you
able to kind of stay there and fight or
you still seeing yourself fleeing from
the situation my my natural stay is is
to walk away absolutely it is to walk
away and I sometimes that's a that's a
strength sometimes you know not fighting
is M is always a good thing not to fight
but at the same time sometimes when
you're going through situations you you
and especially if when you're young you
need somebody to help you face those
problems and I don't think I had the
support structure around me at that time
to help me do that and learn those
skills potentially think that though the
point of why I want to share my story
and it's that what knife wasn't awful
for me it really wasn't you know I was
probably a grumpy teenager hopefully a
little bit jealous that this new fellow
had moved into my house and there was a
baby and you know not the attention
wasn't on me and it sounds really daft
but you know I was a normal child I
didn't get into too much trouble or pop
from going right in I didn't get into
too much trouble but this still happened
it was I was still on the streets and it
can happen to anyone any point in their
life and I think it's important for
everybody to recognize that homelessness
doesn't just happen to drug addicts you
know it doesn't happen to people that
you
you think it happens - it happens to
anybody absolutely I think you just you
said a very important point there so
we're always one decision away from
being the situation that you were there
so I would never see someone homeless
whether they drinking or whatever
they're doing as somebody who is a
druggie or somebody who's got an alcohol
problem I would just see somebody who's
probably just made that one bad choice
and then as a spiral has seen themselves
in that in that predicament or in the
situation so I think that's that's a
really really useful point and you also
obviously you've got the self-awareness
now and that probably comes through life
and experience that you're a confused
teenager you've sinned in an alcoholic
father and and all the impact that
alcohol can have on families especially
up to that extent you've then finally
moved away from that situation only for
then your sister to leave you and then
all of a sudden your mom's found a new
fellow like you said got a new baby then
all of a sudden you're kind of feeling
almost lost and like you said jealous
and I think yes that's probably
something that we'd all be lying if we
said we never fallacy at some stage you
know Aren absolutely absolutely I mean
I had my younger brother was probably
nine years young again probably don't
remember the exact days but I'm sure
there were moments when he's probably
getting all the attention and I'm
jumping around thinking hey what about
me what about me over here and then
again it comes down to your circle so
the one thing I say I was very fortunate
with is my parents sent me to grammar
school not my choice but it's very rare
at least growing up for myself to have
grammar school students who were going
to do crazy things on the night I I mean
the most exciting thing we ever did was
revised for her exams or yeah absolutely
or do a bit of extra studying so I
suppose although at that time I hated it
it's probably kept me from doing crazy
things because I was very easily
influenced as a kid so I'm very very
fortunate for that but I just think it's
nice of you now to be in this position
we're obviously you've learnt a lot and
you said something else I thought was
brilliant it was sometimes it's a
strength to obviously walk away and just
to counter that as well sometimes you
have to fight as well and sometimes we
have to also realize that any adversity
we get through life if we can just hold
on and maybe persevere through that it
becomes a brilliant gift and it becomes
something that will make you so much
more resilient to life because whether
you admit it now or not is it just those
few years
you've lived on the streets and the
experiences that you've overcame it
makes you such a stronger person I think
when you when you look at things I
business it yeah they say
fail fast so sometimes walking away is
the is the best thing you can do but
sometimes you just need to stick out for
that one minute more to get the results
that you want and that happens in both
life and business I'm saying I could
have stayed at home at that point when I
thought I'd hurt my sister and faced it
and I could have just stayed eat living
in a you know in a loving environment I
don't know what my life would have been
like if I'd done that you know instead
of wandering around the streets not
knowing this back in 1996 our and I
didn't know what the time was even and
so yes it's been walking around the
streets at that point in my life this is
silly at the same time from a selfish
perspective if you had stayed in that
loving environment and not going into
this homeless world you wouldn't be on
national today to share your story and
also to kind of inspire other people
because like you said there's so many
other people out there making probably
the same decisions as yourself and if we
can just make them maybe think twice or
maybe understand why they're doing it
because as a teenager sometimes we just
we don't even know why we do the things
that we do so I think that's really
important okay fantastic so you've
touched on business towards the end of
that and you said obviously this times
where we need to just try that one more
time or there are times where we need to
move away what's a day like for you now
obviously you know I'm hoping it's not
under bridges and it's not insurance so
what's a day my life like I've Kelly I
could say that I'm in a lovely warm
loving home again now and I have two
children so they're both teenagers and
14 and very soon to be 16 and and I'm
with my fiance and we're getting married
next year but congratulations thanks
very much and routine for me freaks me
out
I read the word routine like okay this
has me so
much as I probably do have one I try not
to think about it too much I don't even
like the fact that my diary tells me
what to do quite stubborn that's
interesting yeah and but I'm quite
creative I like I like making stuff up I
like doing what I need to do at the time
and going with my feeling and so yeah
the word routine freaks me out
does it bring out your rebellious side
for you think no I just don't want to do
it yeah I just say I don't want to do
that right now I want to do something
else and but I'm sure I have one I mean
I always cup of coffee into first thing
in the morning okay after that it's what
I need to get done rather than what I
should know what I don't set routine for
myself understood and what what do you
do for work and business now and so I do
I am a marketing coach so I coach new
businesses on marketing but I work for a
couple of law firms as well on their
brand and marketing fantastic they'll be
useful for the audience as well
listening okay brilliant so we've
obviously touched on probably your
biggest adversity now in life in terms
of confused teenager finding herself
harmless in a place where we wouldn't
probably wish anyone to be in that
actual moment sleeping rough and not
knowing where your next meal is coming
from well not knowing what the time was
as you said what's the biggest lessons
that you've learned in that experience
that you can share with the audience ask
for help yeah I think there's some of
the things I didn't do I didn't know how
to ask for help
I remember one days that were going into
their hostel and I the person he was
there the night support person turned
out to be my month Mike one of my school
friends mums Wow and I mean I would have
thought that I would have been so
embarrassed like cripplingly embarrassed
but you know what
it wasn't embarrassed I was grateful
just to see a face that I recognized and
I think if I look back on my time I
could have just said to her I need help
you know get me back my family I need I
need something to help me
and I didn't and so at that point then
although you were running away from you
still wanted to come home it wasn't a
kind of a matter of you wanted to get
away from that situation you just he was
almost like a cry for help would you say
yeah
yeah definitely I was just I was so
terrified that I'd hurt my sister at
this point of my life I didn't know for
sure whether she was hurt or not it
turns out that she wasn't turns out that
what I had going on in my head was
completely made-up and she was
absolutely fine but I was just so scared
that I've done something wrong and I had
to that's why I ran away Wow and that in
itself is a lesson I think for everyone
and something that I've probably
experienced more times than most is that
we sometimes overthink things and we
think this person is thinking this other
soar this person's going through this
when really all we need to do is
literally ask them the question is
everything all right
haven't done something wrong and also
owning it and I think this is something
that I've really kind of got to grips on
during my adult life I mean I'm nearly
40 now and so just owning your problems
yes you make a mistake that's okay we
all make mistakes it's like hey you know
some mistakes are worse than others but
you've got to own it you've got to take
responsibility for it and then you have
to either you know resolve it or move
forward you can't let your mistakes keep
you in the in the past I think that's a
brilliant point yeah absolutely take
accountability for what you have and I
think the more accountability you can
take for your mistakes providing that
you learn from and you don't keep
repeating the same ones it actually
gives you a sense of power and I suppose
people will look at you in a different
way you'll look at yourself in a
different way because otherwise you're
effectively you just passing the power
over to someone else and you're almost
afraid to take that so I think that's
that's a brilliant yes exactly
thank you for sharing that okay so
things are going well for you now which
is lovely to hear you've done you've got
a suit to be 16 year old and a 14-yard
and you get married next year so great
news for them and I hope everything's
okay yeah absolutely I hope everything I
was amazing for that but I want to ask
you what's your biggest fear then right
now
octopus is right okay not expecting that
yeah really I can't look I can't stand
up this is I think they're way too
clever and and I think they're aliens
but if you put them aside I think it's
my children and if when my children grow
up I don't want them to reflect on it
and say you could have done better for
us and I just want to make sure that
they're happy secure and that they are
inspired that they are grounded you know
and above all I think kind kindness that
they take kindness in through their life
and I think that's that's my biggest
fear and my biggest challenge I'm sure
you do a wonderful job on that and I
think kindness is it's probably the
number one thing my mom ever taught me
and I'm very very grateful for that and
I think I'm sure you're doing the
exactly same so there's probably nothing
to worry about
but the thing we probably should worry
about is octopus's thinking thinking
ahead now you haven't booked a honeymoon
have you anywhere close to like the
ocean or anything no we are the wedding
is going to take place right in up in
the top of the outs so we're quite nice
and safe from any octopi fantastic okay
I was not expecting to answer I've never
heard anyone say that have you actually
seen octopuses on land that isn't that a
good thing because I'm they can help you
out in the kitchen no point taken for it
taken well at least you're in them
you said the Alps did you yeah I don't
Kelly well well I was sure the best for
next year is are with that and looking
forward to follow you in your journey so
you're doing marketing now and you
definitely sound like you're in a much
better place in terms of your mindset
and your ability to reflect on
everything that's going on in your life
what's your biggest sense of motivation
and inspiration on a day to day basis
other than your kids because I know
you're gonna probably say your kids as
your first answer so let's choose a
different answer actually I wasn't okay
when an my name has been one of the
biggest most their biggest and most
inspiring figures in my life
she's not with us anymore sorry Taylor
and she passed away five years ago
in June by still hear her every day
every choice I make every signs have
went up thinking about that but she was
so inspiring and the way that she
handled herself for the people her
tenacity setting up businesses
everything about her was it was amazing
without trying to put her on a pedestal
she was simply the best person I've ever
known
so she inspires me and motivates me
every single day that's brilliant I love
it um I was gonna say I'm very sorry to
hear that brace it's a lovely message
that you said how you still here and you
take that and I'm sure she's probably
looking down whatever you believe in in
terms of God spirituality or something
but I'm sure she's looking down as she's
very very proud eating at me going in my
head I think if she approves that then
I'm happy if I think she wouldn't not so
much it's probably a brilliant way to
almost act out your days because you're
almost thinking you would never want to
let her down and obviously you want her
name to be remembered in a nice way so
your actions and everything that you do
in the world I mean I know we're all our
own people but I think you're almost
living for her as well if that makes
sense
so yeah I think that I think that's a
beautiful message okay brilliant Kelly
so we are actually moving along very
quickly today and we're actually at the
fun part of the show so this is the bit
where I think you were a little bit
anxious about because I'm gonna be
asking you all sorts of very very easy
questions but I suppose when when the
time is on it can get a little bit
overwhelming but I'm sure you're gonna
be fine indecisive right okay so I take
that back then we might have a bit of a
struggle here but let's see how we get
on
we're gonna do probably 60 to 90 seconds
of just very well I was gonna say easy
but let's see how it goes are you ready
yeah brilliant okay we're gonna go in
three
one okay what did you eat for breakfast
I haven't eaten today if you could
relive one day again what day would it
be Oh crikey that's a hard one and AH I
have two children that's really tough I
think the first time I ever helped my my
baby in my arms I would relive that day
again the first time I ever helped my
baby and I loved it
the ability to fly or be invisible
invisable is sneaky but I think like but
I think I'd like the feeling of flying
some swaying who do you admire most in
the world it's still mine own money or
fame and money your proudest moment I
don't know I don't know I can I pass I
just don't know if we can do a few yeah
okay your favorite food my favorite food
is cheese choice okay
speak or languages or be able to speak
to animals how can you choose like
languages I guess languages if you could
abolish one thing in the world what
would it be and Trump good answer okay
what song best describes your life
what song surprised me hey hi oh I don't
know titles
I could probably hum it you're welcome
to sing it if you want I can't think of
one more pass if you had an extra hour a
day how would you spend it on the sofa
with my fellow Netflix or YouTube
Netflix your favorite TV show ever
friends there's a pretty consistent I
was gonna say yeah I think that's the
most popular answer I've had okay would
you rather not how you will die or when
you were die how your worst fear is a
child probably octopuses they still keep
coming back okay what is your biggest
addiction your favorite place in the
world I would I would say at home with
my family but I also have a particular
fondness for Byron Bay in Australia I
love it that place was amazing
okay read minds or predict the future
read minds your favorite superhero
second oh my god this is named Owen man
named Ironman for sure good choice and
finally your biggest strength kindness
love it love it see that was it too hard
actually bless you actually you're the
first person to have a pass on an answer
though but yeah don't worry the
beautiful thing with podcasting is I
can't edit it out by a flight flight
yeah absolutely you walked away it's
fine
okay brilliant so Kelly the next thing I
want to ask you actually then is it's
about reflection so as we've spoken
about briefly the beginning of this
episode I saw some wonderful thing and
it can teach us a lot it can teach us
how to get to places quicker easier or
with less heartache but I'm a firm firm
believer that the journey also teaches
us a lot and sometimes we have to go
through these circumstances and the
trials and tribulations
so knowing exactly what you know now
with all of your knowledge and
experience if you could go back and
we're going to take you back now to your
teenage years which i think is relevant
to this story knowing exactly what you
know now what would you whisper in the
ears of a young Kelly I think be brave
and be brave and be brave and posture
which was I'm looking for tackle your
problems like deal yeah deal with your
problems don't run away from them I love
that that's fine is that a kind of a
message as well that you'd always try
and teach or your kids as well yeah I
don't know how successful I am in doing
that okay thank you parenting is an
experiment in parenting so firstly
whatever works and secondly I've got no
idea how they're going to turn out so
when they're about 25 ask me that
question again and we'll see if it works
okay fantastic we'll get you back on the
show brilliant okay so suddenly that
actually brings us to the last question
of the day and the last question are
always ask my guest it's about legacy so
if in a 150 years time science fails to
save us all and all that exists is a
book and this book is about
Kelly and it tells us all the weird and
wonderful things that you've done in
life all the things you've achieved and
all your ups and downs firstly what
would the title of the book be and
secondly what would the blurb at the
back tell us about Kelly so it's a hard
one I've been thinking about this but at
the same time I remember having a
conversation with my best friend a few
years ago and about this particular
topic and I think that my book would be
called she's just a normal girl because
even though I've gone through quite a
lot in my time when I the stories that I
could tell you about being homeless
would be would be quite shocking and the
people that I've met and on the way the
the trouble that I could have got into
the trouble I did get into all of that
but I'm just just a normal girl like
there is no different to me than anyone
else so I think that would be the title
she's just a normal girl and with
regards to the blurb on the back um I
would hope the people that read my story
and would say that even though even when
times are tough she still believed that
kindness was her superpower and that's
what got her through I love that I love
it I think spreading kindness is
probably probably the best thing we can
all teach each other and we could all
learn from absolutely I mean just be
just being kind I actually wrote a post
funnily enough about three hours ago on
Facebook and it was it was one of my
first few things I wrote in there
because it costs nothing to be kind and
there's actually a few influences now
there who actually using the whole
kindness thing as a sort of as like a
buzz word but really shouldn't just be
something that's installed in all of a
sudden Wow from day one yeah I wish I'd
written my LinkedIn profile buyer
actually goes through all of my core
values so independents adventure
curiosity connection strength and growth
and and then at the end of it it says
well what about kindness and the way
that I address is is it should just come
as standard absolutely it shouldn't have
to be someone's core value it should
actually just be live that's what we
should do we shouldn't have to learn it
yes it's funny but I don't know I
suppose we're also in a society where
we're almost firefighting on a daily
basis and where there's people competing
with each other there's a lot of
jealousy there's a lot of scarcity
mindset that I tend to find as well
especially when I started my lot
entrepreneurial journeys and went into
different fields and it's only recently
now started to get myself a very good
network of people who just want the best
for you and when you start living in
abundance and realizing that the more
people you can connect with the more
people you can help and more people you
can be kind to you just you just spread
something that's infectious and and
being now wanting it back I think the
odds of doing without receiving is you
know people need to learn that a lot
more give without wanting to receive
absolutely without expectations
hopefully agree it's funny you just said
that as well because I I was meeting a
develop and I'm going off on a bit of a
tangent here but we were speaking about
this and I was saying that's kind of my
philosophy is the way again I say again
my mom's always taught me just give but
never expect nothing back because one
you probably be disappointed but to you
know give if you're giving someone
something you're giving it them because
maybe they're not in a position to
necessarily help you back so it's almost
silly to expect them to be able to help
you back if that makes sense
so when you give something and you try
and be kind you try and lift somebody up
just do that and just just be nice about
it but don't expect them to help you
when they can barely help themselves if
that kind of makes sense and I've always
just seen it that way so I've been very
fortunate people now start to help me up
in my business and at the same time I'd
always try and reciprocate that with
other people as well so I think I think
Kelly that's a beautiful message and on
that actually I'd love it if you could
not only share your LinkedIn profile for
the guests but also where else you'd
feel comfortable with people reaching
out to you if you wouldn't mind maybe
after this show because I think you're
more than just a normal person how you
described yourself on the front of the
book it's it's been a lovely
conversation with you I'm glad you're
almost finding your voice and I know we
spoke about this previously on Facebook
very briefly and it's got a lot to teach
people you've got a lot that they can
learn from you and I just think you this
has been a lovely chat so I really
appreciate you for that and I'd love to
pour all your reachable social media
outlets onto my show notes if that's
what
yeah that'd be fine these if isn't
business the one place that I would like
people to go to is a Facebook group okay
so it's called one-man brand but the
point of it is and isn't just about you
know having my group it's about having a
hive mind so it's about bringing your
skills and your expertise and helping
other people within the group so if
you're an accountant what what
information can you give to other people
that was going to help them and show
that you're an expert in your field as
well so that's that's what I'm trying to
achieve so anyone in that relation can
go there fantastic I think that's
brilliant I think that's something that
literally every single person listening
to can probably join on to because we
have to acknowledge it but we all
probably Excel in certain areas more
than others and I think it's about
recognizing that so I think that's
brilliant the hive mind thing are you
happy with people contacting you on
Facebook or should we just keep it to
the Facebook group for now yeah I'm open
I network and speak to anyone that wants
to anyone that wants to speak back yeah
brilliant
again I'll run and just thank you one
more time for coming on for overcoming
your fears it's been fantastic to hear
about your stories been very inspiring
as well and also I want to thank the
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