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Using exercise to help your Mental Health #22
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Find your voice - Episode 21 "Using exercise to help your Mental Health" Michael Hayes #22
Tagline: "What's for you, won't pass you" - Michael Hayes
Michael Hayes, is one of the most positive, infectious people I have been fortunate enough to have connected with during my time as a Podcaster. A genuine individual who focuses in his own time on promoting positive links between mental health and exercise and whilst spreading authentic, honest and tangible messages through his social media platforms.
Michael does not do this for any monetary reasons, but since seeing those close to him suffer with mental health he made a choice to use his expertise in health and fitness and promote a positive link of enhancing not just your physical well-being through exercise but also improving your overall mental health.
Our first Irish/Aussie on the show who proves that real messages and honest advice is the same across the world and if you want to ensure you get genuine advice his story is definitely worth following. Michael also admits to having suffered little adversity in his life although when you finish this episode you would probably agree that even if he was, or had, he would not have seen it as a burden or adversity and likely just smiled his way through it.
All the links to follow Michael's journey are below and a final note before you go check that out, which I think is worth mentioning and came from his mother is: "What's for you, won't pass you".
I urge you all to follow his journey and support him on making a positive difference in the world of fitness and mental health.
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welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host
of the show himself mr. Aren do what's
going on people thank you for tuning in
to another episode of find your voice my
name is Aren and as always I am the
host of the show so I am delighted to be
able to bring to you today Michael Hayes
otherwise known as the mental health
fitness coach now Michael is irish-born
but now living over in Australia and
what he has done is he's taken a passion
of his ie personal training but he's
linked it very very closely to something
that we can all relate to mental health
now the way he links mental health and
fitness is fantastic and it's probably
not what you're gonna expect especially
from somebody who now operates on
Instagram not quite the influencer that
he will be one day but Michael's
messages are incredible and I certainly
urge you after this episode to engage
with Michael and follow him on his
journey because alongside he's worked
with mental health and exercise Michael
is also just a very very positive person
in fact he's probably the most positive
person I've had on the show and I say
that after interviewing so many
incredible guess he's infectious he's
got a great aura about him and all he's
trying to do is make you guys feel
better both physically and mentally so I
think without further ado let's jump
straight into this interview okay
firstly I'd like to start by welcoming
Michael Hayes to today's show and I want
to thank Michael for taking time out of
his day to come on and share his story
and secondly Michael I just want to know
how are you doing today my friend yes
really good yeah just back from work so
settling in for the night now how about
you how's your day been yeah my day has
been good so it's early more I say early
morning is 10 o'clock here so my day is
kind of starting
for anyone listening you can probably
tell from Michaels voice straight away
that he's not got this amazing Brummie
accent that I have he's actually from
Australia so it's our first Australian
guest on the show so again I'm very
grateful for that
I think to get this started Michael if
you wouldn't mind if you can just kind
of tell our audience a little bit about
yourself a little bit about your story
because hopefully that way you'll give
them an insight in relation to yourself
and also give them an understanding as
to why I reached out to get you onto a
show yeah absolutely and I'll just start
off by saying that I'm actually Irish so
I've I've been in Australia for the last
seven years so I'm after getting a bit
of a twang since I moved here so I like
it I get some serious grief up everyone
from home when when they hear just what
anyway yes
yeah I've been living in Australia the
last 7 years so I guess I run a an
Instagram page and a Facebook campaign
type thing called mental health fitness
coach so I'm pretty much peachy turned
into just someone that's trying to get
people to exercise for for all the right
reasons I guess so for your your mental
health is sleep for your mood to reduce
stress and to not look at it from you
know I want to get a six-pack or I want
to you know the quickest way to look
good on the beach or things like that
just getting people to take a step back
and say you know this is more there's
more to exercise and to and to fitness
and just how you look or you know the
material things it's there's a lot more
to it a lot more deeper things that
people should be focusing on that
unfortunately in this day and age they
don't tend to be so that's where where I
am and that all came about for me I was
true my work I was doing this 30 days of
exercise and for 30 minutes for 30 days
of exercise for your improved mental
health and through that process I was
doing just my own Instagram post and
putting things up this was before the
time of mental health fitness coach so I
was just posting things off about my own
30 minutes of exercise each day and
putting little snippets up about the
benefits of exercise your mental health
and putting some bits up also about
encouraging conversations around mental
health and through that 30 days I got
lots of feedback from
my own friends and some really close
friends as well as my family and some of
my immediate family about struggles
they've had with mental health and this
was things that I had never known so it
was a big wake-up call and surprise to
me at the time when you know I was
putting these things I would thinking oh
yeah you know it's it's great for people
to exercise remember heads but meantime
I was going on not realizing that a lot
of people close to me had suffered or
were suffering with their with their
mental health so that was at the
beginning of it all for me you know it
was a real big eye-opener and from there
I just kind of thought at the time I was
a PT and looking after a gym and kind of
I look I'm in a good position here where
some people look to me for that fitness
advice and I'm sorry my former top looks
at me for that fitness advice and this
is a time where you know I'm a person
that yeah that people look to and I'll
just put that positive message out so I
started to mental health fitness coach
and it was all about just exercising for
the right reasons and it's about three
years ago now and you know back then the
the fifties and all those things were
you know at the big thing now it's booty
bends and all that and you know it's
just it's just not the reason that
people need to be exercising like you
know it just just do it for it for
yourself and for your mood and your
relationships that's that's the big
message that I try to just send out to
people and I've been doing that now for
the last yeah coming on three years now
a mental health fitness coach and it's
not really anything that I'm doing for a
good monetary sense it's just trying to
get that that message out there and so
far I think of impacted quite a few
people just through my own post if I can
have a positive impact on a few people
and that's great and if it means someone
goes out and does it hurt him in a walk
every day where they wouldn't have done
anything before and that that helps
their their daily life then you know
that's fantastic and that's kind of what
I'm hoping to achieve through all of
this that's fantastic mate so we're
first I just want to acknowledge you for
that as well because I think it's an
incredible thing that you're doing
you're encouraging people to exercise
for the right reasons so I was a fellow
PT I similar to yourself I share the
same
views that we shouldn't necessarily
exercise for that six-pack or how we
think we should look I the Instagram
model life and it is again it's my kind
of way of releasing my tensions
throughout the day it helps with mental
health myself so I think I love that
message about it but I also love and
what you touched on is that you've
managed to encourage conversation
between your friends and family who have
suffered with this mental health in
their own personal lives and I think
that's that's a testament one to
yourself that people can obviously come
out and speak to you and feel openly
comfortable about that but I think it's
something that as a society across the
world in Australia England wherever we
are
is that we need to encourage that
conversation about mental health and I
just think that's a fantastic thing and
this is one of the actual reasons that I
reached out to you specifically I seen
your messages and I just thought this
would be like a really good person to
come on and the fact that you don't do
this for the monetary sense it is to
give back it is to get value I really do
urge my listeners at the end of the show
to jump on your Instagram page and see
the messages that you're having on that
no I just wanted to ask a bit of a
personal question if you wouldn't mind
as well is Michael have you suffered
yourself from depression or are you
simply doing this because you see the
value in helping other people around you
yeah good question no I haven't and I'm
one of the lucky people who yeah I've
never had any any issue really with any
mental health whether it be depression
anxiety mood swings
anything at all so I've been I suppose
quite privileged in that sense and
that's where I'm a really really
positive person and always have been and
any because of that when I did this 30
days of exercise for 30 minutes for 30
days and I got all this feedback for my
friends and family that was when I
thought oh shit like you know I'm living
this this great life thinking it's all
good and you know I've always really
just exercised for myself and in my own
mental health how I'm feeling but all of
a sudden I was like this is actually out
there it's real and you know people are
suffering cos I've gone through my life
thinking you know everything's great you
know everyone's happy yeah nobody's okay
just like uber positive almost at a
point where I was unable to see that
this could be
happening in other people because I
suppose my own positivity blinded me to
what might be happening to others and
and I would always I would always look
to the well neither no they must be fine
that they I'm sure they'll be okay and
tell myself the good happy story but and
yeah it's really just the last few years
since I started this and moved to
Australia and I've really started to
notice this and you know thank God I've
noticed they could you know now I I'm
much more conscious of my own mental
health so when I do go through any modes
or anything like that I understand
what's going on and yeah so no luckily
for me I've never never been impacted by
any mental health things fantastic and
hopefully continues that way and you
just said yeah thank God that you
noticed it and I think definitely thank
God or whatever you believe in that you
have noticed it because now you're in a
position where you're able to help
people learn almost lift them out of
this very dark space and I say very dark
space because my mom suffered with
chronic depression for the best part of
the last eight years and prior to that
again probably similar tell you when you
first started I didn't understand mental
health it was like what have you got to
be sad about got this to look forward to
it was only recently over the last eight
years I've really kind of tried to
understand men to help myself and it's
funny that you're almost doing what I
wish I had the time to do which is
linking one of my passions which is
fitness and the other one which is I
hold very close to my heart mental
health because obviously it's affecting
my mom and you link in the two together
so that's kind of why I resonate towards
your story a lot because I'm like in
another life if I had a bit more
flexibility and a bit more time and may
if I could live in Australia as well
that would be an added bonus I would
literally be doing the same kind of
things as you so I want to ask just on
something else that you touched on there
if you wouldn't mind yeah you've always
been this happy positive person now
before we've had this show we spoke for
the best part of a minute and within a
second of seeing your face on on skype
you were you were smiling you were happy
and I was like this is gonna be a good
interview I knew straight away because
you were good vibes off almost instantly
what are the careers and stuff have you
done throughout life or what do you
think is the reason that you've always
just been happy or is it just literally
your mindset has just been programmed
that way I reckon yeah it's just my
said and it's yeah it's just the way
I've always been you know I had
extremely good parents and a really
great family there's five kids in our
family and you know I'm the youngest so
I was always supported and you know
showing Sean the right road and yeah I
guess it's just how I've always been
like I don't know any other way than to
put a smile on and have a chat to people
that I don't know and you know if
there's a top conversation that's needed
to be had with like say my staff or
someone's going through a hard time like
I'm always happy to get in and and not
things I would people but yeah I think
it's just the way I've always been it
it's not any one particular thing that
happened that you know maybe this
positive person it's just yeah lucky for
me I had a really good upbringing and
it's just the way I've been that's
fantastic man and long may it continue
because the world could definitely
benefit from more people like yourself
just to kind of spread a bit of sunshine
so yeah that's also to hear okay so
what's a general day-to-day life like
over there in Australia for yourself
yeah and I'm the same as you I love
habits and I think the biggest thing of
me is just trying to be consistent
around the good things that I do so and
I suppose I might actually answer it on
a week-to-week
that's all right yeah absolutely the
more relevant to what I do and so really
like usually on a on a Sunday or
Saturday our leader have a mental think
about what's going to happen in the week
after and I've got a spreadsheet that
I've been working off now for the last
year and a half where I scheduled my
training for the next week and so I know
exactly what I'm gonna do
Monday true to Sunday but one of the
things that I found really good for
myself to keep myself consistent with my
exercise and I'm a runner so I love to
run and so one of the things that I did
wanted a very very first thing that I
did was started pack run and I know you
guys have Perricone you know the weekly
x 5 kilometer runs yeah so that was that
was one of the first things that I
started to do me My partner and fiance
know we started doing Park run and for
me I know every Saturday at 8 a.m. on
that pack run and I'm running and that's
that's what I'm doing I think
that's a tenner 11 over in the in the UK
and I was like a little bit sleepin
create a in there but for me I know that
that's what that day is so I've tried to
build my my exercise and my running
around just habit and consistency so
Saturday is always packed on Tuesday I
run with a run Club in in part and W a
called frontrunner sports performance
and I do a Tuesday 6:00 a.m. every
single week with those guys and then I
do what R is a fight in every single
week with those guys so I kind of know
like whatever happens in life unless
something goes completely pear-shaped
Tuesday Thursday Saturday I'm running
and that's what I'm going to do so
that's one of the things that has helped
me get that consistency for probably the
last almost going on a year and a half
now probably but running in the last
year with the front runner guys on
Tuesday and Thursday and and obviously
massive improvement in my running from
that and I'm not a person that you'd
look at that would say yeah he'd be ok
at running but because of the habit that
I have of doing it every week I've just
gotten a little bit better every single
month throughout the last couple of
years and now I'm a decent runner
whereas people would look at me and go
oh he he can't run that faster he can't
do that or a lot of people always get
the question you know how have you
improved so much it's literally it's
consistency like I started to go in once
a week to Peregrine's and that's what
probably did that for three or four
months it was just once a week and then
think I sure would choose to era wins
they ran them session in there and then
it became that the Tuesday Thursday and
they're just ingrained in my daily or my
weekly routines now and so that's a big
thing for me as part of every week and
then the rest of the week from a month
at Friday I'm full-time job on my health
and fitness coordinator for local
governments in parts so and that's what
my general nine-to-five so I look after
the gym and our group fitness programs
in our community classes and I actually
love that and one of the very very very
lucky people that can say I actually
enjoy money learning and getting up and
going to work and there's
you know obviously everyone get sick at
work at time from time to time but
there's very occasions that I'm actually
not happy to go to work or be at work so
and that's my job and through the week
and the rest of the week is family my
fiance and the dogs and that's that's
her yeah that's brilliant man I suppose
you've almost found what many of us are
trying to find and you know we always
hear people getting sad on a Sunday
evening and they got work in the morning
and you've almost kind of found your way
so it's nice to see that you're having
that and you also touched on some
brilliant points again which was it's
all about consistency and one of the
things I always say is obviously we our
resort of our habits so I think that
going back to your 30 minutes a day
there I mean it's a day in the grand
scheme of things I thinking we're
excited to like two percent a day if we
can just get people to do that as a sort
of habit initially and then if it has
the effects of improving your mental
health on a long-term scale I think
we're on to a winner so on that point
alone have you got access to a sort of
30 day plan or is it's just something
that people would need to kind of go
back into your Instagram and follow into
my Instagram and follow and you know I
don't have any 30-day plans or anywhere
that I suppose that the main thing for
me with people and I've had with the gym
that I work at I've had many many
interactions with people about you know
what are they going to do to get
themselves fit and healthy and I went
through a period of weight gain where I
didn't realize I was gaining weight but
I got up to like 115 or 16 kilos but
over the last three or four years since
I started running I'm back down to 90 so
I've had a big weight loss and period
and a lot of people asking me about you
know what should they do and you know
what exercises should they do for for
this muscle and you know should I be
going how many times a week should I be
going to the gym and how many reps did I
do and how many said should I do this
exercise and I always say to people and
even when people come to a gym like do
you enjoy going to the gym and if the
answer is yes then it's like yeah yeah
okay in you go it doesn't matter what
you do pick exercises you like thick rep
ranges you like it accept ranges you
like and do that
because you're only going to be
consistent at the things you like and if
someone comes into our gym and says oh
you know I actually quite like working
out in groups send them straight to
group fitness like if someone came into
my gym and said I hate gyms
I hate group fitness classes I'd send
them straight back out the door and tell
them do something else because there's
no point in them coming towards to do
something that they're not going to
enjoy and they're not going to say
consistent that because you know you
can't sign up for a gym or an exercise
program or sports team if that's not
something that you actually enjoy like
anyone who wants to get fish you need to
do something that you enjoy and that you
can keep doing for me it's running and
occasionally lifting weights so I do
lots of running and a fair amount of
weightlifting and that's what I love
doing and so for for people like you
know if you're looking for a 30 day plan
or whatever it might be that are looking
for they need to just look into
themselves and go what I like to and
I'll you know we live done living in
Australia so there's lots of outdoor
activities you can do so someone loves
stand-up paddleboarding or golfing or
gardening or whatever it is you know so
that wasn't it that and see that and you
know make the most of that because
whether or not it's 2 percent to your
day or however long of your day it is
that you're doing this exercise for you
want to be doing something that you
enjoy and yeah it's there's too many
people and this especially with gyms and
group fitness classes and things like
that
they do it because other people do it
not because it's something that they
want to do they see someone else getting
results doing that exercise or they god
forbid they go on Instagram and they see
the top six exercises to get awesome ads
and they do those exercises and realize
that they haven't been it's really about
having a thing to yourself of what do I
enjoy doing and if you don't know what
that is just go and try a few things go
to the gym go to an outdoor class join a
sports team join a join a running club
you know try things out and whichever
one it is that you you think you enjoy
that's what you'll be consistent at so
go do that Michael I love that answer so
two things I want to point out firstly
this is why I want people to follow your
page two
learn from yourself and all these little
nuggets that you just thrown in there
but another reason that actually love
the answer is because you're confirming
everything I've been preaching myself
for the last time right so mainly
because you agree with me because I have
four pillars that I always say are my
sword when I work with my clients I
would say if we can add a to these four
pillars and they are enjoyment
sustainability consistency and hard work
and I think as long as you have a
mixture of all of those so the enjoyment
side which is literally exactly what you
explained so I think that's a really
really important point you said their
consistency we've already touched on
sustainability again if your enjoyment
and consistency are on point it's going
to be sustainable if they're gonna keep
it going
and obviously I think there is an
element that people think they don't
have to work hard and you touched on
their this the ABS exercises get abs in
three weeks by doing this it doesn't
really work like that because there's a
bit more science that goes behind it but
great answer mate and again I'm
consistently plugging your channel
because it would be nice to get the
audience to see it from a different
perspective somebody on the other side
of the world almost doing the exact same
thing and making such a positive
influence so I appreciate that answer me
thank you yes
okay so the next question is are you
gonna be quite an interesting one
because a very happy positive person but
what I want to touch on is adversity and
I use adversity in all of my episodes
because I want people to look at things
or change the perception of things and
just know that whatever situation you're
going through however difficult you may
feel it is in that particular time is
there's always a way out of it if you're
willing to persevere through it so I'm
hoping you've been through some
adversity and I mean that in the kindest
way possible me because I'm not smiling
now on the other side of it but could
you maybe take us back to a time where
things were going as well as you maybe
hoped or you went through some adversity
and how you overcame that and then
finally the lessons that you learned
from that if you wouldn't mind yeah
absolutely and yeah I haven't gone
through a massive amount of adversity in
my life would that's it I you know I've
had plenty of tougher harder times that
I've had to go it was the one for me
that
so tis so obviously I'm living in
Australia I'm came here from lard and so
about three years into when I was here I
was am working in a job and this job was
going to sponsor me to stay in the
country and just before my sponsorship
went through I reckon two weeks before
my sponsorship was all gonna go true and
everything was going to be sweet or
Center closed down and yes so the
sponsorship went out the window pretty
quick unfortunately was not sure any
fault of the employer that's the way
things went down so and yeah just just
when I thought I was yeah I'm said I'm
gonna be in Australia nothing to worry
about
got my sponsorship that'll get me my PR
we're good to go
everything kind of just set out out of
nowhere literally out of noise but I
honestly don't look back now on that
time as a time of adversity or a time
where I was under massive stress because
for me at the time I was just alright
well this has happened no matter what I
do I can't really change the outcome of
what's happened to and to the center
it's that's just the way it is so the
the first thing that I was doing was
looking for I would I need a job so I
went and saw myself some work and I went
back to construction work and that was
fine and and then it was just playing
the waiting game to see when when this
Center was going to get back opened up
see if that sponsorship was still on the
carriage and and I've had a think I
think I had four months until I had to
go home legally the contrary so yeah and
I it was it was going to be a little bit
more time until they got the centre open
and they had some roof issues that they
had to sort out so there was a lot of
construction to go on and like just but
true luck that whole period I just kind
of kept on to them and said you know
when can I get back in is it going to
happen isn't it going to happen and
there for a while there wasn't a whole
lot of talk backwards and forwards so I
just kept doing my construction stuff
away and and eventually I got back into
work and I got this I got sponsored bush
I suppose the big thing for me through
that whole
time was well look if I get sent home I
get sent home and that's just the way
it's gonna be in and I always had in the
back of my mind that it's going to sort
itself out one way or another whether
it's through work or whether something
else comes up or you know whether I get
it I think there was the option of a
partner a partner visa with my partner
at the time so you know there there was
options there and I kinda just didn't
let myself get too stressed to the
census you know I was worrying about it
all the time and just kind of got on
with things as best I could and and
luckily it all worked out and yeah I'm
just I'm still here now but it was yeah
I just kind of keep it that positive
attitude towards this and then yeah it
worked out in the end but uh I think a
good a good quote and I'm gonna call my
mom of all people in the world yeah for
this was a sudden my mom sold me heaps
of times Trudy years Witter is going for
a job or it's going to interviews or
anything that I'm racing or whatever I
was doing she'd always say what's for
you won't pass you so you know if at
that time if it if it was for me to stay
in Oz and you know to go on to be where
I am now then that's what it was going
to be if that's not what how it was time
to work out then something else will pop
up that would be you know just as good
or better
so really it's you know anytime we do a
job interview or anything like that or
especially if I don't get a job
I always think well that clearly wasn't
for me so if it was I would have got it
kind of yeah on to the next thing
that's fantastic me then it's funny you
said that quote and I resonated with
this straightaway because my nan so she
doesn't speak English but she speaks
Punjabi but these direct words that your
mom says she says the same quote so
she's a very religious person and she's
always had that philosophy sure but
actually she's starting to remind me a
little bit of yourself and I mean that
with utmost respect because she's always
smiling she's always happy and she's
been through a hell of a lot of
adversity in life but she's always
saying you know whatever's meant to be
is meant to be if you meant to have
something come in your life will happen
if you're not you're not so I think
that's a brilliant way and it's probably
what
kept her going so long so very wise
words from my cause mom so appreciate
that me do you have that do you have
that quote in your grandma's words I
you're testing my Punjabi haha yeah yeah
maybe one for our line may I try and get
you a translation I don't wanna
embarrass myself live online yeah yeah
huge you won't be too happy with my
pronunciation but yeah if it is exactly
the same but I think that's brilliant I
think it's a testament to the way that
you think always got that positive
outlet you're always looking at things
as in just the way that I wish
everybody's in it rather then me if I'm
completely honest five years ago would
have seen that as oh my god the whole
world's falling down I'm so close to get
my sponsorship it's almost falling their
minds I would go through the rephrase
you're just kind of got that in the back
of your head so consciously you're
thinking it's all gonna work out and I'm
really glad it has so in this current
situation now things are going well for
you what scares you in life do you have
any fears and do I have any serious it's
a good question and I don't think I do
like you know I if anything I'll worry
about other people more than I worry
about myself so I'd you know I kind of
want to make sure that I was good with
with my close mates and my fiance and my
family and you know some of my sisters
are pregnant at the moment so you know
it's the only things I worry about her
are all those guys and you know checking
in and then to make sure everything's
going okay but now personally for myself
I don't really uh kind of hold strong
similans
mums advice of you know if it's for you
won't pass you and kind of keep keep
pushing forward and yeah if that's a
good answer
no not absolutely my absolutely
definitely so are you telling me you're
not scared of all the again I'm speaking
as a Brit here we hear all the stories
of the snakes and the spiders in
Australia
does anything like that ever scare you
or ever hear of a red back a red back
spider not very little that little
spiders with a red back they're pretty
fierce looking they're they're small
small little things we get lots of
around my house we get tons of them so
there's lots of and he has brain spray
red backs around here but no of my hair
funny the way my brother-in-law was is
scared and worried about coming over
here and sitting on a toilet boner and
water being underneath it when he catch
you for the yeah look lovely that's them
it's pretty unlikely and I've never come
across too many snakes any more a rod I
guess if I was to say one thing I
suppose on on fear and it's not really
fear for me but it's just for again for
other people it's the current age of
social media and the influence that
social media influencers have you know
so many people are drawn in by these
influencers and you know they take what
they're saying for fur gospel almost and
you know they they you have people
buying these fit tees and you have
people buying to these 30 day programs
and all these detoxes and you know
there's lots of people that are preying
on people's fears and emotions and
getting to sign up to these programs and
to be honest it's a real big issue and
it's what is one of the main reasons as
I said in my page was just to have an
alternative option of the the quick
fixes and things like this because
there's so many people that and
especially at our gym and and you know
friends of mine and I see other people
putting things up like everyone thinks
that these things work and that there's
you know there's something to it pushes
you know a quick quick thing gonna so
ferrets it's it's a worry the the
current state of the fitness industry
online you know that I think the fitness
industry in Australia on the ground
level is really good and really positive
and there's lots of people doing great
things but the the online influence of
people who have no experience in health
and fitness is yeah extremely worrying
hopefully with people like you and
things that I'm doing you know it yeah
the common sense approach will will win
out in the end
absolutely may I think you just hit
something that again I resonate with is
find it so annoying that these
influences are in a position where they
have so much impact and they're just
been unethical and they're not being
authentic in their message and they're
selling these cookie cut programs or
they're saying you can look like me if
you do this in six months and I'm
looking at him and I'm like you're
obviously on something that's not
natural for example you've been doing
this for 15 years and you're just trying
to almost manipulate people and to
believe in it and it's not just the
fitness industry to be honest so I'm
involved as a property investor as a
full-time occupation and even within
that there is a massive massive market
of people and the shame is is that they
have so much influence who prey on
people who are in an almost like a
desperation phase and when you're
desperate you're almost clinging on to
anything and it's just reassuring to
know that there are people like
yourselves out there who have this
amazing energy about you and you just
honest and authentic and this is a
reason I do my show it's to give people
a voice who aren't influences who I
genuinely believe can make a positive
impact on the world because I genuinely
believe if my audience however smaller
is or however big it grows follows you
they're gonna get authentic information
information that and I don't mean this
because I say similar stuff I mean it is
because we understand the basics behind
it and it's nice that you're trying to
make an impressive but it's funny isn't
it because on one end we're looking at
these influences and thinking that the
way Instagram and Facebook and stuff is
it's it's almost damaging to people's
self-esteem Ament to half but at the
same time we also need it to preach our
message and to get our voice heard to
try and help people absolutely so yeah
yeah it's a funny one so what is your
motivation then moving forward for your
business is it to enhance your voice to
get out there to impact more lives or do
you have another underlying motivation
behind the word that you do yeah look I
just want to keep doing what I'm doing
you know every one person that I thought
I impact positively is you know it's for
me that's that's the ultimate goal is
just to have a small little impact on
people's lives whether it's someone
starts doing it you know a tiny bit of
exercise that they've never done before
or whether it's someone else has a chat
that I made about the mental health who
they think isn't doing so well you know
I just want to keep pushing the message
out there and
as far as I'd like to get a little bit
more active on social media given your
full time job and this is just something
I do on the side I'm probably not as
active or putting out as good a content
as I'd like to at the moment but I just
want to keep keep growing the the
audience and make sure that the message
is reaching as many people as we can and
you know maybe one day start podcasting
or doing something similar to what
you're in here and chatting to people
about their own experience of mental
health and Howard are our only
experienced mental health exercises has
positively impacted that and which yeah
for now it's kind of keep going as we're
going yeah absolutely
I think you'd be an amazing advocate for
both mental health and fitness so if you
do get the time and capacity later on
absolutely doing if I can help in any
way in terms of like setting up a
podcast or anything please do reach out
and I'll try my best to help you buddy
not a problem that a stress so we're
actually at the the fun part of the show
now this is the part where I'm gonna ask
Michael all sorts of weird and wonderful
questions let me know when you're ready
and we're gonna hit the time wrap then
we're gonna get started it's not okay
we're gonna go in three two one
okay Michael what did you eat for
breakfast nothing if you could really
live one day again what day would it be
oh the day I met my partner the ability
to fly or be invisible invisible who do
you admire most in the world and oh god
that's good question I've no idea
do I admire most in the world oh geez my
mom I love it when your fame mmm money
your proudest moment
dropping on one knee your favorite food
hates it speak or languages will be able
to speak to animals or speak to animals
100% if you could abolish one thing in
the world what would it be
oppression what some best describes your
life there is a song that I can't think
of it don't worry be happy whatever that
song got made that is a hundred percent
you
okay if you had an extra hour a day how
would you spend it with my partner
Netflix or YouTube Netflix your
number-one goal this year have a
positive impact if you could sit with
one person in the world for an hour who
would it be
rock your worst fear as a child these as
being too tall I'm 6 4 but I've been
think forces I was around 6 Wow okay
what is your biggest addiction Netflix
and finally buddy read minds or predict
the future read - love it ok that's the
end of the quickfire round so we got to
know especially when you've got like no
time to think as well so I was just
interested yes it but yeah some good
choices there everyone loves pizza and I
think I haven't found anyone yet who
doesn't like the rock ok but it's all
we've got fine or 2 questions now we're
coming towards the kind of end of the
show and the next thing I like to always
ask my guess is more about reflection so
I am a firm believer that hindsight is a
wonderful thing in terms of it teaches
us a lot he teaches us how we can get to
places quicker easier or with less
heartache now knowing you now as a
person you're very positive and you
haven't been through I suppose that much
adversity but if you could perhaps go
back to a younger michael hayes knowing
everything you know now and whisper
something in that may be uncertain young
version of yourself what would you say
and mental health is real I'd like to
have known a lot more about mental
health and being able to make an impact
earlier I think yeah absolutely I think
the world would have benefited so much
as well if you knew but I'm just
grateful I'm sure people listening to
this are as well that you're making an
impact now and on that note we are
actually on our last question of the
show and the last question again I
always like to ask all of my guess it's
about legacy and if science fails to
save us all and all that is left is a
book and that book is about Michael
Hayes and everything you've achieved in
your life and all the great weird and
before things that you've accomplished
firstly what would the title will say
and secondly what would the blurb at the
back tell us about you and the title
would say keep it simple stupid the back
would probably go along the lines of and
this bloke managed to convince everybody
that the simple things done consistently
and with a little bit of hard work make
all the difference I love that I love it
mate thank you thank you for sharing
that I think just that title alone would
definitely make me pick up the book just
to kind of think about the last
fantastic okay Michael so just before we
end the show I want to give again I've
been plugging it all the way through
this episode I want to give the audience
a chance to follow you on your journey I
think you're a very infectious positive
person I've really enjoyed this
conversation
you've got me out of my seat I was a bit
lethargic this morning had two cups of
coffee but I'm thinking about the rest
of the day so if you could tell us where
our audience can find you and what I'll
do is I'll play all of that together and
I'll put it into the show notes because
I believe you're gonna do incredible
things and you already are so far away
mate oh my cheers thanks for that and
yeah so on Instagram it's at mental
health fitness coach and Facebook just
searched mental health fitness coach and
I'll pop up on both of those I'm
actually on YouTube as well as mental
health fitness coach and there's a few
interviews that I did in the past and
one of them was with the CEO of are you
okay which is a company - an Australian
company that's are encouraging
conversations around mental health and
that's quite a good one to go and look
at and that's actually a really good
resource for anyone in the UK as well
and who are you okay just the letter are
you and then okay and that's that's one
that yeah it's probably one of the best
ones that we have in Australia so for
starting conversations and how I start a
conversation with a friend and what to
say
and it's a unbelievable resource so I'd
go check that as well be a bit
mental health fitness coach everywhere
else is where you'll finally fantastic
and we spoke I think earlier this week
you've also got another podcast so I
don't normally plug another podcast into
this but I think it'd be really nice for
people to get to know even more so what
I'll also do is I'll put that in the
show notes as well or are you okay in
there as well because again this is
something that I'll follow personally
Michael it's been an absolute pleasure
thank you for your time today and for
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