Answering The Inner Call (formerly FEEL GOOD The Podcast)
91 episodes - English - Latest episode: 3 days ago -Answering The Inner Call with @MsMalikaLee contains both short reflections and long form conversations aimed to liberate, empower, and inspire. In life, (in anything) context matters and if you have hardship after hardship without context it makes life even harder. Here we look at life through the Spiritual context of it being a classroom, so it is a place to reflect, get loved on, encouraged, and yes even get your feathers ruffled sometimes if that's what it takes.
With guests we explore aspects of their life curricula via challenges, defeats, and victories as well as other topics that are essential to feeding and nurturing your mind, soul, & body (exp. creative writing, meditation, & forgiveness).
This work is intended to empower and support joyous, well-rounded, and informed humans "To Be The Change They Want To See" in a fun, inspiring, and accessible way.
For over 20 years Malika Lee has and continues to be a seeker & student of Transformation & Self-Actualization. Currently her healing work and focus is supporting & encouraging heart-centered seers, healers, & feelers to self-actualize. In addition she is a Facilitator, Public Speaker, & Creative who wants to love on people and nurture with truth and joy.
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Episodes
Power series - She Tried It - The Follow Up
April 26, 2024 16:23 - 9 minutes - 7.27 MBIn the previous episode, I mentioned different examples of growing to stand in my power and 3 women who recently tested my resolve. The following day after the dust settled from the experience with the service provider, the Holy Spirit used it to teach me a valuable lesson that I wanted to share this teachable moment. Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
Coming Into Your Power - She tried it!
April 24, 2024 16:43 - 12 minutes - 9.92 MBAs we grow and change, we shake things up and things that we may have let go before aren't OK with us letting go now. In this episode as part of the Coming Into Your Power series, Malika details 3 recent examples of women who were trying to exert power over her or others in various ways. She gives examples how she was still able to keep it cute (for the most part) while honoring herself and setting boundaries with the other. Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com...
Power: Pimps, Hoes, Gifts, Value
April 22, 2024 16:54 - 14 minutes - 11.5 MBAnother deeper dive of how power dynamics can play out, this time using the dynamics of pimps and hoes. It could also be called those who exploit and those that are exploited. If you found this helpful and are ready to come home to yourself and stand in your authentic power and want support, feel free to click the link below. Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
Giving Power Away Outer Authority
April 19, 2024 16:52 - 14 minutes - 11.9 MBPeople have different ideas of what power is and who has it. In this series exploring power from a Spiritual experience and what Gary Zukav calls authentic power, we explore one of the ways we give our power away. Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
A Friendly Reminder
April 13, 2024 00:09 - 2 minutes - 2.13 MBI just had a bit of a trying morning but am so grateful that with the help of some great conversations, I feel buoyant and content again. Then this message came to and through me to share. How wonderful it is to experience and remember the impact we can have on lifting someone's spirits & brightening their day (& our choice to brighten our own day). Although I thanked the 2 people that made a difference for me today in real time, I guess this is a way to pay it forward and infuse good ener...
Inspirational Message from a Spiritual Text
March 22, 2024 02:00 - 3 minutes - 3.17 MBIn the last episode for the month, for context of why I take the last month off for rest & integration listen to the Rhythm episode here: https://feelgood.libsyn.com/are-you-in-tune-with-your-personal-rhythm I'm reading this message from a Spiritual text called, A Course In Miracles. It really struck me & I answered to call/invitation to share. I hope it blesses you as it did me. #Goodthingsarebettershared Do you want and need support to reach your goals & tap into your potential faster?...
Putting The 5 Points All Together
March 20, 2024 01:26 - 9 minutes - 7.69 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore how all the points blend, work, & dance between each other. Afterall, they are all connected y'all. In this episode we answer questions like: How is Rest an integral part to Answering Calls? What does Answering Calls have to do with doing Healing Work? Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls that show up ...
Pt 5 Rest: Remember Covid?
March 15, 2024 01:44 - 9 minutes - 7.64 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the fifth point, Rest. To close out Point 5 on Rest, Malika invites you to call upon your lived experience of a mandated rest period (for most of us...Thank you essential workers) during Covid. It was an uncomfortable and uncertain time for many of us but what were the benefits you got from that time of sitting down somewhere? Do you still see the seeds you planted in your life then, flourishing now? Are you still i...
Pt 5 Rest & Hidden Benefits of Busyness
March 13, 2024 01:19 - 7 minutes - 5.77 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the fifth point, Rest. In this episode, we explore another obstacle to rest... Busyness. Busyness doesn't always mean that you are productive. Malika details her personal experience when she took the leap into self imposed rest & stillness & why you may need support when you take this step in a big way. Are you having a hard time resting & you're ready to uncover why? Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: h...
Pt 5: Why Rest Can Be Difficult
March 08, 2024 01:13 - 7 minutes - 5.72 MBRest is not always as easy as it sounds and is often undervalued... In this episode Malika takes a deeper dive into her own past challenges with rest including being a recovering workaholic and how it relates to how we see ourselves. Are you having a hard time resting & you're ready to do the work to release and transform what's keeping you up? Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify...
Point 5 - Rest
March 06, 2024 01:04 - 15 minutes - 12.4 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the fifth point, Rest. This step is often overlooked and is a natural and essential part of the whole. Rest serves many purposes including integration and restoration. It is also part of the rhythmic cycle of life. This point is not always as easy as it sounds... Ask anyone dealing with insomnia. Rest requires surrender, faith, patience, receiving, and trust. Are you having a hard time resting & you're ready to ...
Pt 4 Spiritual Work - Grief
February 23, 2024 22:02 - 10 minutes - 8.37 MBIn this episode Malika discusses the sudden loss of her father and the grief that ensued afterwards. She shares the ingredients that were essential to doing Spiritual work and healing from the loss. She also shares an interesting byproduct of healing the loss of her Father being a gateway to heal from past losses as well. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls that show up in your life at your own pace? Reap the benefits and save the time it took Malika over 5 years to lea...
Point 4: Spiritual Work is Like...
February 22, 2024 01:12 - 9 minutes - 7.8 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the fourth point, Spiritual Work. This step is the feminine counterpart and requires just as much faith & courage to turn inside & face our fears, hurts, and emotional wounds. While it can seem daunting and intimidating, this analogy aims at demonstrating the long term benefits of doing this work... peace and emotional liberation. Are you ready to do the work to heal? Schedule a 35 min consult with Malika: http...
Point 4: Spiritual Work
February 20, 2024 00:56 - 13 minutes - 10.8 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the fourth point, Spiritual Work. This step is THE goldmine to unlocking and upleveling your emotional & energetic baseline. Similar to step 3, Answering The Call which is about faith & courage in the world, this step is the feminine counterpart and requires just as much faith & courage to turn inside & face our fears, hurts, and emotional wounds. This point is the work required to release baggage that keeps us f...
Point 3 Unanswered Call Storytime
February 16, 2024 21:54 - 10 minutes - 8.43 MBSometimes we can learn just as much if not more from when we make a mistake then when we don't. In this episode, Malika details a story when answering one call (accepting the responsibility to teach) lead to another call she didn't answer. She also shares what she learned from that one instance many years ago that stay with her to this day and probably make her a better teacher. Trigger warning is mention of the word sexual assault. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls...
Point 3: Answered Call Storytime
February 15, 2024 00:50 - 8 minutes - 13.9 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the third point, Answering The (Inner) Call. This step is so important, Malika named the entire podcast after it. As a matter of fact, this podcast was a call. Calls are an invitation to exercise faith and courage. This episode includes a personal story & example of another instance of Answering The Call. Benefits to answsering calls include aliveness, being of service, getting unstuck, saving time, building confi...
Point 3: Answering The Call
February 13, 2024 00:40 - 16 minutes - 12.9 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the third point, Answering The (Inner) Call. This step is so important, Malika named the entire podcast after it. Here we explore the many ways a call can show up in our lives, as we look at it from a much broader perspective than becoming a minister. Calls are an invitation to exercise faith and courage. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls that show up in your life at your own pace? Reap the b...
Point 2: Spiritual Study
February 10, 2024 00:36 - 10 minutes - 7.95 MBIn this series of Malika's 5 Points To Being a Spiritual Shining Start, we explore point 2, Spiritual Study. Of all the points, this one is probably the most common to the western world. It includes exploring thoughts & philosophies often through mental study and reading. In this episode Malika details the benefits and also the limitations on relying on Spiritual study alone as your only element in a Spiritual practice. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls that show up...
Point 0 - The Prequal & Start of My Spiritual Awakening
February 07, 2024 21:38 - 12 minutes - 10.1 MBWhile we've been exploring the 5 points & practices of being a Spiritual Shining Star, we go back in time to explore how we got here. How did we get here to these 5 points? For Malika this discovery and uncovering traces back to age 11, genesis of the 5 points. From this story we also talk about how to identify our gifts, including Spiritual gifts, and how it may require turning lemons to lemonade. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls that show up in your life at your ow...
Point 1: Spiritual Practice
February 06, 2024 00:25 - 12 minutes - 9.64 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the first point, Spiritual practice. At its core a Spiritual practice should raise your energy and vibration, aligning you with characteristics of the Spirit like peace, calm, gratitude, joy, and love to name a few. Included are the benefits of a Spiritual practice and examples of the many short and long term benefits, if it is done consistently over time. Want to take a deeper dive to be able to identify calls th...
Point 1: Spiritual Practice - Storytime
February 03, 2024 00:31 - 11 minutes - 9.05 MBAs part of Malika's 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star, we explore the first point, Spiritual practice through a personal story & benefit of one of Malika's Spiritual practices, meditation. There are a multitude of Spiritual practices you can choose from. At its core a Spiritual practice should raise your energy and vibration, aligning you with characteristics of the Spirit like peace, calm, gratitude, joy, and love to name a few. There are many short and long term benefits, if it ...
5 Points to Being a Spiritual Shining Star
February 02, 2024 00:14 - 22 minutes - 17.9 MBSpirituality reminds us that we are so much more than a life of limitation. But to reap the benefits its more than lighting candles and speaking in soft tones. The key is this--Are you tapping into your infinite potential? Do you know yourself as the loving, generous, and brilliant person you always wanted to be? One way to access the infinite powe and presence you are as a Spiritual being is what Malika outlines as her tried & true 5 points/steps to being a Spiritual Shining Super Star. ...
Have You Seen The Film Origin Yet?
January 30, 2024 22:01 - 14 minutes - 12.2 MBThis episode explores the recently released indie film Origin by Ava DuVernay. This is not a film review but instead considers the benefits of both what the film as well as the book that it was inspired by, Caste by Isabel Wilkerson tackle. We cannot transcend the hurdles on our path unless we recognize them. And both the book and film do a great job at shining a light on the social and psychological hurdles many bump up against. I mentioned the huge benefit of being exposed to these soc...
Are You In Tune With Your Personal Rhythm?
January 18, 2024 02:42 - 11 minutes - 8.87 MBRhythm is good for more than just dancing. It is the background music to everything from nature and music to our favorite scene in a movie; it sets the tone. Not being attuned to our personal rhythm can lead to experiences of being discordant and off beat with ourselves, a task, and/or our surroundings. Can you hear your rhythm or is it drowned out by external schedules and expectations?
Dr King The Power of Inspiring Leadership
January 16, 2024 02:17 - 14 minutes - 11.4 MBIn celebration of Dr Martin Luther King Day, this episode explores a few parallels observed between Dr King and Jesus, namely the type of leadership they modeled. To book a 30 minute consult with Malika: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
Power Of Rest: A Story with Harriet Tubman
December 19, 2023 03:07 - 11 minutes - 16.2 MBI haven't formally introduced the system of the 5 points to being a Spiritual Shining Star and I will. But for right now, we are jumping in to explore one of the five points. REST. Rest is generally not valued by the American society of go-go-go. Yet, this true story exemplifies the importance of rest / surrender / being still. In previous episodes we've explored the attributes of the feminine energy and touched on the masculine energy and how both are needed to "answer the inner call" and f...
Harriet Tubman: Case Study of Heart-Centered Feminine & Masculine Energy
December 16, 2023 02:34 - 18 minutes - 25.8 MBIn previous episodes we've explored the attributes of the feminine energy and touched on the masculine energy and how both are needed to "answer the inner call" and fulfill your life purpose and work. As a case study, in this episode I discuss Harriet Tubman as what I call a Gladiator of the Heart embodying and expressing the Light/healthier side of both the masculine (gladiator) and feminine (heart) energy. It is my theory/thesis that all notable, change agents of Good/God throughout his...
Dr Martin Luther King: Case Study of Heart-Centered Masculine & Feminine Energy
December 14, 2023 01:49 - 13 minutes - 10.9 MBIn previous episodes we've explored the attributes of the feminine energy and touched on the masculine energy and how both are needed to "answer the inner call" and fulfill your life purpose and work. As a case study, in this episode I discuss Dr. King as what I call a Gladiator of the Heart embodying and expressing the Light/healthier side of both the masculine (gladiator) and feminine (heart) energy. It is my theory/thesis that all notable, change agents of Good/God throughout history a...
Welcome Brothers: We Need You
December 12, 2023 00:50 - 9 minutes - 13.5 MBWarm greeting dear one. In the patriarchy sometimes men can take things for granted. Most books default to referring to the reader as "he." Often times men are not aware of invited to face that same thing in books when the default is "she" or "they". This is one of the things my friends, we call privilege. So, with that I wanted to explicitly state brothers are welcome here. And we need our males, they/them, and females to value the feminine energy alike. If you are a spiritual seeker & abou...
Calls: What's The Feminine Got To Do With It
December 09, 2023 00:29 - 8 minutes - 11.6 MBWhy did she spend so much time talking about the feminine energy and how it operates? What does that have to do with answering inner calls? In this episode we answer those questions and how having an understanding and healthy respect for the feminine energy is having a healthy respect and willingness to take heed to and recognize your soul's calls to you. Schedule a 35 min, audio Zoom chat to discuss the 2024 Founder's Inner Call Launch: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
You Can't Break My Soul: Beyonce's Renaissance Movie
December 08, 2023 07:01 - 20 minutes - 5.07 MBThis isn't the normal commentary about the show, we know Beyonce is going to serve & leave it all on the stage. To be honest, I went to be inspired & feel joy. I was surprised when I didn't feel joy at all. I had to spend time unpacking why which is what I explore here. In episode I talk about life being a classroom and our varying and shared experiences. Check it out if you haven't listened to it. Anyway, I build on that idea here and look at both the blessings and challenges of the curri...
3 Intuition, Sharks, & Dreams Oh My!
December 07, 2023 23:59 - 12 minutes - 17.7 MBRounding out the 3 part intuition series, I offer a personal specific example of when I answered the inner call, that still small voice, and didn't get the outcome I expected or wanted. There was definitely a period of confusion and uncertanity. However, once everything unfolded, it was just what my soul needed. Schedule a 35 min, audio Zoom chat to discuss the 2024 Founder's Inner Call Launch: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmalika
Cassie & Diddy: Times Are Changing
December 06, 2023 23:51 - 11 minutes - 15.4 MBContinuing with the theme and exploration of the value of the feminine energy and its gifts in the previous episode, it felt only right to insert here an exploration of how times are changing as it relates to the feminine energy & women. This change as it relates to women, money, power, and toxic masculinity are reflected by recent news about Cassie and Diddy. Schedule a 35 min, audio Zoom chat to discuss the 2024 Founder's Inner Call Launch: https://calendly.com/malikalee/35minmeetwithmal...
2 Intuition Example: Groundhog Day Film
December 04, 2023 23:41 - 9 minutes - 13.6 MBI can show you better than I can tell you. Building on the 1st part of the intuition series called: 1 Intuition Women Rising, we discuss the 1993 film with Bill Murray, Groundhog Day, as a demonstration & showing the benefits of trusting your feeling sense as demonstrated by one of the characters. Please note there may be a spoiler in here. Ready to do something different in the New Year? Schedule a 35 min, audio Zoom chat to discuss the 2024 Founder's Inner Call Launch: https://calendly.c...
Lemme Upgrade You!
December 02, 2023 02:09 - 7 minutes - 6.2 MBIt's official, FEEL GOOD The Podcast is has a new name & image. As I mentioned in the mess in progress, you all are getting a little behind the scenese action. Sometimes we have to keep moving forward even when... fill in the blank with any good reason or feable excuse here. Interested in getting support to answering you call via the Founder's Club in 2024? Email Yes to [email protected] What are you waiting on? Are you going to answer the inner call or what? ; )
Endings & Beginnings: Peace Feel Good
November 28, 2023 03:55 - 9 minutes - 7.36 MBHow you end one thing is how you start the next. Keeping that type of energy, it felt right to pull the curtain back and share the inspiration about the name FEEL GOOD before the new name is announced. Whether something feels good or not is important information! I want to thank all the past guests and you, the listeners of Feel Good The Podcast. I look forward to sharing more inspiring and empowering content as the journey continues under the new name, announced soon. : )
Valuing The Feminine: Intuition and Feeling
November 28, 2023 03:17 - 9 minutes - 7.82 MBIn this episode we explore the case for why we should value and listen to our intuition and how it is a woman's super power in contrast to a man's super power of being physically stronger compared to most women. There is also a movie recommendation that exemplifies the power of our intuitive sense that will be explored in the next episode.
Life Is A Classroom
November 25, 2023 02:20 - 10 minutes - 8.21 MBIn the intro episode I quoted Oprah's phrase, "Life is a classroom." In this episode we take out the canvas and paint an analogy likening our life classrooms to sitting in traffic. Our lives and experiences could be just as layered, dynamic, and varied as this. But the deeper question is, what has it taught you so far? If you are ready to get in the driver's seat of your life and/or ready to change direction and would benefit from assistance that Malika could offer. Schedule a consult here...
Progress BUT Old Habits Die Hard
November 23, 2023 00:50 - 2 minutes - 1.43 MBA BIG part of healing work is being honest with yourself! (Or having someone be honest with you and being able to accept their feedback/reflection). Anyway, here I had a moment of insight about that old pattern of perfectionism showing up after my previous episode on honoring the mess! So, just like any other mess, I had to come clean. : ) If you are ready to make progress but things just keep getting in the way. Maybe you aren't meant to do it alone. Schedule an audio call/consult to exp...
Changes A Coming: Intro
November 21, 2023 01:28 - 5 minutes - 4.03 MBIn the previous episode I mentioned that I've been changing and feel called to change some things on this platform too. Oprah has said, "Life is a classroom." I plan to do a deep dive all centered around this context of our daily lives through the lens of Spirituality, Psychology, Urban Philosophy and so muh more. I invite you to join me on this journey that is intended to lead to transformation, liberation, and joy.
The Mess In Progress
November 11, 2023 23:46 - 7 minutes - 3.71 MBAny perfectionists or former perfectionists here? This short reflection is modeling a lesson I'm moving through in real time; moving forward and sharing before I feel "ready" or before everything is in place and things are "perfect" or at least more put together. As I've been experiencing a deep inner renovation, these changes impact me (obviously) and those around me whether other humans, projects I'm a part of, etc. This podcast is no exception. Things are a changing & I wanted to pull b...
We've got something new!
October 19, 2023 03:33 - 2 minutes - 3.11 MBAre you stuck in analysis paralysis or procrastination? Are you currently at a crossroads and trying to make the best choice? Do you struggle with discernment and get overwhelmed? Do you have an idea to do something you’ve never done before but don’t know where to start? Yup, me too. For years I struggled with these things and learned a lot. I've condensed what I've learned now available in e-workshop, Answering the Inner Call can help! 20% off now through Nov 1st. Visit: https://t...
Sexual Healing with Moushumi Ghose, MFT ep 33
June 28, 2023 18:42 - 1 hour - 85.8 MBIn this conversation with Moushumi Ghose, a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in sex positive sex therapy, we discuss everything from shame, pleasure, and how she thinks pornography could be used in healthy ways. You can find out more about her, her work, and how to connect here: https://www.moushumighose.com/ Suggested Resources: Referenced by Mou: https://crashpadseries.com Book: Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski You can find out more about the host Malika & her ...
How to Have Healthy Intimate Relationships (& Why Its Important) w/ Angela Amias
May 24, 2023 17:59 - 1 hour - 94.2 MBGuest Angela Amias, LCSW, is a trauma informed relationship therapist. We discuss the loneliness epidemic and her lessons learned in healing her own relationship trauma as well as those of the many clients she's worked with. Along with her partner, Daniel Boscaljon, PhD, they have distilled learnings of trauma responses in relationships to 5 relationship archetypes. These archetypes provide insight into the patterns we default to in navigating the relationships that matter most and how to ...
Taking The Leap Of Faith - Maleah Jackson ep 31
April 21, 2023 21:58 - 1 hour - 83.4 MBMaleah Jackson was one of millions who left her lucrative job in recent years to become a full time entrepreneur as a consultant with her company, Makari Consulting. In our conversation we talk in detail about fear, faith, having a safety net, and what life was like after leaving her job. We also discuss how taking the leap also applies to relationships when we are afraid to let go or challenge the status quo of existing relationships. Lastly she shares who she has become as a result of dee...
Joyful Service with Toni "Zumba Mama" Bailey ep 30
December 23, 2022 20:16 - 26 minutes - 36.9 MBIn a different format than our usual episodes, in this more immersive format we journey with Toni "Zumba Mama" Bailey into her life of Zumba. We talk about how she started and the many unexpected gifts that have come with serving her community by sharing her love of dance and fitness. We also hear from some of her students who have been touched by the class and Toni's infectious Spirit. Toni is known for her smile. While you can't see it this episode, you can still feel it! You can find Toni...
Nov: Upcoming Introductory Workshop to A Course In Miracles
November 10, 2022 02:44 - 1 minute - 873 KBA Course In Miracles has been a great presence in my life that I often don't talk about. Over the years I've read many books, taken courses, gone to therapy, and much more. Of all those things, I attribute The Course to answering many unanswered questions I've had for a long time and it has given me a greater Spiritual context to live each day in; one that is empowering and helped me feel more loving and peaceful as I practice it over time. It has been such a private journey for a long time ...
Women + Anger + Power ep 29
September 20, 2022 19:20 - 1 hour - 112 MBWhen the dominant group expresses anger it is usually respected as an expression of power. But that same anger is usually discouraged, undermined, and/or disregarded when it is expressed by an oppressed group. In patriarchal societies, for many centuries women have been socialized to ignore, suppress, or discount their feelings/anger/needs to keep the peace. My three female guests all managed to go against the grain and keep a relationship with their anger. We discuss their challenges, lea...
About Upcoming Workshop 9-27-22
September 16, 2022 03:22 - 2 minutes - 3.43 MBJoin host, Malika Lee, for an Introductory 4-part workshop series on A Course In Miracles. She will bring her years as A Course student along with her years of faciliation experience to ensure participants have a dynamic, transformative, and accessible learning experience. Register, details, and ask questions at: https://thefeelgoodinstitute.com/workshops
Partners In Purpose w Drs Ron & Mary Hulnick Ep 28
August 03, 2022 03:35 - 1 hour - 112 MBAre you walking and living your purpose? Have you met your people whom you support and that support you in fulfilling your highest potential & sharing your gifts? With my guests, Drs. Ron & Mary Hulnick, you'll find that both require discovery, courage, faith, and surrender. For over 40 years husband and wife, Ron & Mary have worked together as co-founders of the University of Santa Monica (USM); a school that specializes in Spiritual Psychology. In our conversation, we discuss their indiv...