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REI Network with Gavin Timms

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REI NETWORK with Gavin Timms is an exciting Real Estate Investing coaching podcast where you will get an inside look at the systems and processes used to create a successful real estate investing business. Learn how to gain Financial Freedom and the ability to do What You Want, When You Want, and with Who You Want. Learn directly from someone who has achieved this and continues to grow his business. REI allows for Gavin Timms to travel the states in his RV and across the pond enjoying life while still working his proven methods for a successful business.

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#106: BatchLeads 3.0

September 23, 2022 14:00 - 30 minutes - 21 MB

You all know that BatchLeads is a huge part of my wholesale operation, and I use it in all markets I am in. I use BatchLeads as the hub of all my records and it makes my day-to-day activities a lot simpler and more manageable. That is why I am excited to feature the co-founder of BatchLeads, Jesse Burrell. We will talk about why they decided to create BatchLeads and the new features they recently added. There are a lot of software companies out there that don’t understand what real estate i...

#105: What Am I Currently Seeing in the Real Estate Market

September 14, 2022 17:00 - 9 minutes - 6.71 MB

Many of you have been asking about how I see the current state of the real estate market. When the economy starts to dip, our jobs or income can be put in jeopardy. Despite all that, I 100% believe that now is the time to start your real estate business!  There will be a lot fewer properties that go above the asking price. So, there’s no better time to make offers and close deals than now.  What’s inside: How I see the real estate market right now What should you do to succeed in the curr...

#104: Marketing Results 7 Days Into a New Market

August 31, 2022 17:00 - 13 minutes - 9.2 MB

It’s been 7 days since we started a new business in a brand new market, and I am excited to share the results of the strategies we set up, and the marketing we put in place 7 days ago! We had a new mail piece and it's a “Game Changer”! Believe it or not, we got our first contract signed yesterday! It’s insane! This proves that direct mail isn’t dead. So, we got it locked up, and my team is currently trying to move it. This response rate is one of the best I’ve personally seen. We have talke...

#104: Marketing Results 7 Days Into a New Market

August 31, 2022 17:00 - 13 minutes - 9.2 MB

It’s been 7 days since we started a new business in a brand new market, and I am excited to share the results of the strategies we set up, and the marketing we put in place 7 days ago! We had a new mail piece and it's a “Game Changer”! Believe it or not, we got our first contract signed yesterday! It’s insane! This proves that direct mail isn’t dead. So, we got it locked up, and my team is currently trying to move it. This response rate is one of the best I’ve personally seen. We have talke...

#103: Steps To Opening Up a Brand New Market

August 24, 2022 18:00 - 10 minutes - 7.27 MB

I am opening up a brand new virtual market as a challenge with Joe McCall! This is exciting! You will get the chance to see firsthand how I set up strategies and put marketing in place, as I establish this new virtual market. Starting from what I specifically look at when I’m picking the market, to how I pull lists, to deciding what marketing channels I’m going to use and what tools I’m going to use to make this happen. I’m going to give my best effort in doing this for the next 30 days. S...

102: What happens if I fly to your office

August 11, 2022 06:00 - 11 minutes - 8.14 MB

I just got back from a whirlwind couple of weeks of travel and I'm tired but inspired. When  you have your business set up as I do, you can take advantage of that, and work from  anywhere you want. That allows me to get creative with what I do. I recently decided to take on a few clients to help them set up their real estate business, but the catch was, I would  actually fly out to them and do it in person. I did this for a couple of reasons. I believe being  able to learn firsthand from som...

#101: 7 Steps Investors Must Take Now to Survive This Market Crisis

July 19, 2022 10:00 - 45 minutes - 31.1 MB

As the market shifts and times keep changing, we’re now starting to see it in our own businesses, especially with institutional buyers starting to back out of deals. Because of all these changes going on, we wanted to give you the top seven steps you’ll need as an active real estate investor to not only stay afloat during these times but to prosper. These seven steps can apply to anyone from wholesalers to vacant land investors as we make our way through this latest economic cycle. The firs...

#100: The Main Opportunities in Real Estate in the Coming Recession

July 12, 2022 10:00 - 36 minutes - 25.2 MB

We’re working on a lot of deals right now, even with a recession on the way. Sellers are accepting our offers and there’s still a ton of opportunity. For those just starting out, it is totally possible for you to make $10K in 10 hours per week. No matter what might be happening in the stock market, tried and true marketing strategies like direct mail and cold calling will always work. Staying close to your network and keeping your business lean are just some of the ways you should be prepari...

#099: Prepare Not Panic – The Coming Recession

July 05, 2022 10:00 - 26 minutes - 18.1 MB

In this coming recession, we’re helping you prepare, not panic. If you know how to identify problems and solve them, you’ll be able to recession-proof your real estate investing business. It’s important to know what to focus on, especially if you’re already feeling the effects of what’s currently happening. Wholesalers are still making a ton of money and doing deals, even when big companies are laying off their workforces. As with every tough situation, keeping a healthy mindset is one of th...

#098: A Recession Is Coming - What Are We to Do As Real Estate Investors

June 28, 2022 10:00 - 29 minutes - 20.5 MB

The stock market is down, inflation is up, and gas and grocery prices are sky-high. Interest rates are going up as well, and crypto is losing its value fast. Instead of worrying, we want to prepare you for the potential crisis we’re facing. You can definitely make it out of this on top if you’re smart. You need to know how to pivot and be smart in the way you invest. Having multiple exit strategies is also a must. This new recession might be hard for some people, but if you can move along wi...

#097: Is The Market Crashing? And What To Do About It...

June 21, 2022 10:00 - 24 minutes - 16.9 MB

People might be panicking over the current economy, but we’re here to bring some sanity and normality to the situation. In real estate, it’s only going to be bad for people who are ignoring the fundamentals. It’s important to listen to and learn from the people who have been through recessions before, like back in 2008. There’s always going to be opportunities in the market if you know how to find deals. In this episode, Joe and I go through the six points you need to follow if you want to s...

#096: Make Your Life Easier and Pre-Screen Your Sellers on the First Call

June 14, 2022 10:00 - 15 minutes - 10.7 MB

I’m passionate about sales and talking to sellers. I believe it’s a million-dollar skill and it’s something you need to get good at. Pre-screening your sellers when you get them on the phone is something that will make your life a whole lot easier. Whether the call is inbound or outbound, make sure you walk through the four pillars to get the information you need. Those four pillars are motivation, timeline, the condition of the property, and the price. Getting clear upfront about the four...

#095: State of the REI Market - How to Recession Proof Your Business

June 07, 2022 10:00 - 26 minutes - 18.5 MB

While some people are shrugging their shoulders about the market change, some people are already freaking out about the recession. But do they have to? The recession could very well be here, but we don't have to panic. We don't have to freak out. We’ve been in a business for many years, and the guys we know who have been in this a lot longer than me and Joe are seeing the similar patterns with the last recession. But they’re not panicking. Why? Because they know they just need to be prepar...

#094: How To Have a Successful VA Team

May 31, 2022 10:00 - 21 minutes - 14.6 MB

Having a successful VA team is a major part of any successful real estate business. A VA is going to be one of the first hires you make, especially if you’re a solo entrepreneur. Whether you’re new to the business or seasoned doesn’t matter – you’re going to need to eventually start outsourcing. Your time is best spent doing high-dollar activities like closing deals and you don’t have time to get stuck in administrative work. Find a good VA and let them do that work for you. Hiring good VAs...

#093: Are You Coachable Or Stuck In Your Own Ways?

May 17, 2022 10:00 - 19 minutes - 13.7 MB

I’m back home after being on the road for the last four months and I’m so glad I’ve built a business I can run from anywhere. Right now, I’m working on personal development and mindset because it’s so key for your life in general. You always have to work on yourself and look at yourself honestly. When you can reflect, you’re able to see where you need to change and do the things you need to do to succeed and get ahead. It’s important to be coachable and not get stuck in our own ways. We migh...

#092: How To Get 5 Hot Motivated Seller Leads In 30 Minutes

May 08, 2022 10:00 - 26 minutes - 17.9 MB

Joe and I believe there are 3 keys to being successful in this business: Marketing, Automation, and Delegation. The way I run my business and the way Joe runs his is based on the lifeblood of it all which is marketing. We just came from an awesome 5 leads in 5 days challenge with our students where we dove deep into the marketing tactics and strategies. Guess what? Our students from this challenge actually got leads and got deals in contracts! It’s proof this system works! So, Joe and I w...

#091: Build a Solid Foundation Off Basic Skills

May 03, 2022 10:00 - 14 minutes - 9.86 MB

It’s easy to overcomplicate things when running your real estate business. There are so many tools, systems, and automation, and getting too bogged down with these details takes away from what really matters. When you spend too much time on the little things, you don’t take the massive action needed to get ahead. The most important thing to do first is to create a solid foundation for your business and stick to the basics. Whenever you feel like you’re doing too much but not seeing results, ...

#090: How To Run Your Real Estate Business From Abroad

April 19, 2022 10:00 - 15 minutes - 11 MB

I’m back at my parents’ house in the UK for the first time in over three years. I wanted to show you how I run my business from abroad to help you when you take your own trips or spend time away from home. Traveling within the United States is one thing, but when you leave the country, there are some specific factors to consider so you can still run things smoothly. You can’t always bring the same equipment you use to work at home, but you can still make things happen. One of the main thing...

#089: Marketing That Is Working in My Business Today

April 05, 2022 10:00 - 14 minutes - 9.97 MB

Today, I’m breaking down the marketing strategies that actually work in my business and why I chose them. There are two types of strategies: proactive and reactive. Proactive strategies include cold calling and sending text messages. Reactive marketing includes direct mail and Facebook pay-per-click, or PPC. For the last four years, my number one source of marketing is cold calling. Whether you do it yourself or hire VAs to call for you, the key to it working is to keep feeding the machine. ...

#088: Buy Real Estate Without Using Your Own Money

March 29, 2022 10:00 - 16 minutes - 11.2 MB

I’ve heard a lot of people saying they can’t get into the real estate investing business because they either don’t have time but have money or they have time but don’t have the money. While it’s true that you need money to invest in real estate, you actually don’t need YOUR own money. You can buy real estate without ever using your own money.  The best three ways are:  Private money or hard lenders Double closing Transactional funding I explain these three ways but I also drive on the f...

#087: If We Had to Start All Over Again in a New Market - What Would We Do?

March 23, 2022 10:00 - 8 minutes - 6.19 MB

It’s completely normal for new real estate investors to hesitate to fully jump into the business because of the question marks. What do I need to do? How do I do it? Where do I start? Can I afford to do it? What if I make a mistake and blow all my money? Joe and I have been there, done that and we want to teach you what worked and still works for us so that you can avoid as many mistakes as possible in launching your real estate investing business. So, we’re doing another live marketing cl...

#086: Taking Your Business To The Next Level

March 16, 2022 10:00 - 16 minutes - 11.5 MB

I am in Tampa, Florida this week for a three-day mastermind with my mentors, coaches, and fellow influencers. Masterminds give you an opportunity to surround yourself with other entrepreneurs and take your thoughts to a bigger scale. There’s always going to be someone further along than you in their business. Instead of looking at that as a negative, look at what they’re doing and use it as inspiration. Masterminds are the perfect environment to build deeper relationships with like-minded pe...

#086: Taking Your Business To The Next Level

March 16, 2022 10:00 - 16 minutes - 11.5 MB

I am in Tampa, Florida this week for a three-day mastermind with my mentors, coaches, and fellow influencers. Masterminds give you an opportunity to surround yourself with other entrepreneurs and take your thoughts to a bigger scale. There’s always going to be someone further along than you in their business. Instead of looking at that as a negative, look at what they’re doing and use it as inspiration. Masterminds are the perfect environment to build deeper relationships with like-minded pe...

#085: Creating Small Wins Is a Must in This Business

March 09, 2022 11:00 - 16 minutes - 11.3 MB

When you’re just starting out in the real estate business, it’s all about the small wins. This business can be really hard, so it’s important to stay focused and consistent in your efforts. It’s easy to get overwhelmed when you’re trying to get that first deal done but concentrating on getting small wins is what leads you to success. You’re going to get a lot of ‘no’s’ before you get that ‘yes’, but all it takes is one good ‘yes’ to make a ton of money. I talk a lot about mindset with my co...

#085: Creating Small Wins Is a Must in This Business

March 09, 2022 11:00 - 16 minutes - 11.3 MB

When you’re just starting out in the real estate business, it’s all about the small wins. This business can be really hard, so it’s important to stay focused and consistent in your efforts. It’s easy to get overwhelmed when you’re trying to get that first deal done but concentrating on getting small wins is what leads you to success. You’re going to get a lot of ‘no’s’ before you get that ‘yes’, but all it takes is one good ‘yes’ to make a ton of money. I talk a lot about mindset with my co...

#084: Position Your Offer to Close More Deals

March 01, 2022 11:00 - 17 minutes - 12.1 MB

Sales are the million-dollar skill that you need to learn to close more real estate deals. Good sales techniques bring solutions to the table and get you more money. The way you position your offers directly impacts your ability to close. It all starts with listening carefully to your seller and gathering as much information as you can. The first thing you need to uncover is their level of motivation to sell so you can come up with a price that works. Starting off with a cash offer and then ...

083: 200k+ While Working a Full Time Job with Brooks Everline

February 22, 2022 11:00 - 37 minutes - 26.1 MB

Brooks Everline started his real estate career while he was working a full-time job. While driving for work, he started listening to podcasts and audiobooks that motivated him to buy his first rental property. Brooks credits much of his success to getting in the right mindset. Procrastination is a big nemesis and if you let it in, it can overtake you. Choosing a strategy and sticking with it until it pays off takes a lot of focus and patience. People get frustrated and jump to a different st...

#083: 200k+ While Working a Full Time Job with Brooks Everline

February 22, 2022 11:00 - 37 minutes - 26.1 MB

Brooks Everline started his real estate career while he was working a full-time job. While driving for work, he started listening to podcasts and audiobooks that motivated him to buy his first rental property. Brooks credits much of his success to getting in the right mindset. Procrastination is a big nemesis and if you let it in, it can overtake you. Choosing a strategy and sticking with it until it pays off takes a lot of focus and patience. People get frustrated and jump to a different st...

082: Due Diligence Will Catch Scammers

February 15, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.74 MB

Whether you’re new to real estate or you’re a seasoned pro, doing your own due diligence in deals is so important. Unfortunately, scammers are everywhere today, but if you’re looking into all the red flags and bad gut feelings, you can catch them before it’s too late. I’ve dealt with scammers myself, and in one case, they did a fake power of attorney. We didn’t catch it until after the property closed and we went to send the money.  Clients of mine have encountered scammers as well. Many p...

#082: Due Diligence Will Catch Scammers

February 15, 2022 11:00 - 14 minutes - 9.74 MB

Whether you’re new to real estate or you’re a seasoned pro, doing your own due diligence in deals is so important. Unfortunately, scammers are everywhere today, but if you’re looking into all the red flags and bad gut feelings, you can catch them before it’s too late. I’ve dealt with scammers myself, and in one case, they did a fake power of attorney. We didn’t catch it until after the property closed and we went to send the money.  Clients of mine have encountered scammers as well. Many p...

Live MAD Bootcamp - Marketing, Automation, Delegation - Feb 11-12

February 08, 2022 11:00 - 24 minutes - 17.1 MB

Joe and I just came out of a 3-day free challenge a couple of weeks ago where I virtually went into a new market for houses and Joe went into vacant land. We did the 3-day challenge, did real marketing the next 9 days after and we documented the whole thing. I briefly talk about my experience from that challenge and what I’ve done next to cultivate those leads. I budgeted $1000 that will cover a month of marketing where I have my VA skip tracing, cold calling, and doing other tasks to get ...

081: Stop Trying to Learn It All! Use Your Network!

February 01, 2022 11:00 - 15 minutes - 10.8 MB

I got the inspiration for today’s topic from a recent coaching call I had with my clients. When we’re just starting out, we think we need to learn every little detail about the real estate business. When we spend too much time trying to be the best at everything, we lose opportunities, and we don’t close deals. It’s way more effective to build a network of experts and rely on them to help you with the pieces. Whether you need insurance, creative financing, or a title company, leaning on you...

#081: Stop Trying to Learn It All! Use Your Network!

February 01, 2022 11:00 - 15 minutes - 10.8 MB

I got the inspiration for today’s topic from a recent coaching call I had with my clients. When we’re just starting out, we think we need to learn every little detail about the real estate business. When we spend too much time trying to be the best at everything, we lose opportunities, and we don’t close deals. It’s way more effective to build a network of experts and rely on them to help you with the pieces. Whether you need insurance, creative financing, or a title company, leaning on you...

080: Is Your Virtual Assistant Not Working Out Or Are You Not Working Out?

January 25, 2022 11:00 - 17 minutes - 12.1 MB

When working with virtual assistants, you have to set them up for success. It’s up to you to teach them the best practices within your business so they can do the best job possible. People can be quick to say that things with their VA aren’t working out, when the reality is they haven’t prepared them well enough to perform. Knowing how to choose VAs based on the tasks you want them to do is important. For example, cold calling will require different personality traits than research. Provid...

#080: Is Your Virtual Assistant Not Working Out Or Are You Not Working Out?

January 25, 2022 11:00 - 17 minutes - 12.1 MB

When working with virtual assistants, you have to set them up for success. It’s up to you to teach them the best practices within your business so they can do the best job possible. People can be quick to say that things with their VA aren’t working out, when the reality is they haven’t prepared them well enough to perform. Knowing how to choose VAs based on the tasks you want them to do is important. For example, cold calling will require different personality traits than research. Provid...

#079: Are You Building a Business or a Job?

January 18, 2022 11:00 - 16 minutes - 11.6 MB

There are so many things to think about when starting a real estate business. Whether you’re hiring people to help you, getting your marketing strategy set up, or automating processes, you want to make sure you’re building a business that actually serves you. If you don’t have that vision in mind, you run the risk of building a job that drains you instead of a business that offers you the freedom to live the life you truly want. Building a business that isn’t a job starts with you being ab...

079: Are You Building a Business or a Job?

January 18, 2022 11:00 - 16 minutes - 11.6 MB

There are so many things to think about when starting a real estate business. Whether you’re hiring people to help you, getting your marketing strategy set up, or automating processes, you want to make sure you’re building a business that actually serves you. If you don’t have that vision in mind, you run the risk of building a job that drains you instead of a business that offers you the freedom to live the life you truly want. Building a business that isn’t a job starts with you being ab...

078: New Market Challenge

January 12, 2022 11:00 - 11 minutes - 8.03 MB

Joe McCall and I are hosting an upcoming three-day virtual event. It’s 100%  free and it starts January 24th – we’d love for you all to come and join us live. We’re also offering a VIP option that includes extra coaching calls in the evenings on the days of the live events. Check out all the details in the links below. The strategies we’re going to share are tried and tested - proven to work to take your real estate business to the next level this 2022. It’s going to be loaded with informat...

#078: New Market Challenge

January 12, 2022 11:00 - 11 minutes - 8.03 MB

Joe McCall and I are hosting an upcoming three-day virtual event. It’s 100%  free and it starts January 24th – we’d love for you all to come and join us live. We’re also offering a VIP option that includes extra coaching calls in the evenings on the days of the live events. Check out all the details in the links below. The strategies we’re going to share are tried and tested - proven to work to take your real estate business to the next level this 2022. It’s going to be loaded with informat...

077: New Year New You! Are You Ready?

January 04, 2022 11:00 - 19 minutes - 13.2 MB

Welcome to the very first episode of 2022 – Happy New Year! Last time, we talked about goal setting, being prepared, and knowing your “why” when it comes to starting a real estate business. Once you have the foundation and you’re ready to take action, being brilliant at the basics of real estate is what’s going to allow you to build sustainable momentum. We all head into the new year excited and enthusiastic, and we want to maintain that throughout the entire year. There are four things you...

#077: New Year New You! Are You Ready?

January 04, 2022 11:00 - 19 minutes - 13.2 MB

Welcome to the very first episode of 2022 – Happy New Year! Last time, we talked about goal setting, being prepared, and knowing your “why” when it comes to starting a real estate business. Once you have the foundation and you’re ready to take action, being brilliant at the basics of real estate is what’s going to allow you to build sustainable momentum. We all head into the new year excited and enthusiastic, and we want to maintain that throughout the entire year. There are four things you...

076: The Best Ways To Plan for 2022

December 28, 2021 11:00 - 14 minutes - 10.1 MB

I hope everyone had a fantastic Christmas and I’m wishing you all a very happy new year! The subject today is setting goals. Having your game plan ready to go will allow you to start getting results right away as we head into 2022.  The first thing you’ll need to get clear on is what is your “why”. Real estate can be challenging and there will be times when you become frustrated. Knowing why you’re doing this is going to keep you motivated and focused. From there, you can start building sh...

#076: The Best Ways To Plan for 2022

December 28, 2021 11:00 - 14 minutes - 10.1 MB

I hope everyone had a fantastic Christmas and I’m wishing you all a very happy new year! The subject today is setting goals. Having your game plan ready to go will allow you to start getting results right away as we head into 2022.  The first thing you’ll need to get clear on is what is your “why”. Real estate can be challenging and there will be times when you become frustrated. Knowing why you’re doing this is going to keep you motivated and focused. From there, you can start building sh...

075: Business Breakdown with Clients Fred & Lateresa

December 21, 2021 11:00 - 26 minutes - 18 MB

I wanted to bring my clients Fred and Lateresa on the show to talk about where they are in the program and share the successes they’ve been having. The two of them have been on our calls consistently and doing some great work for about four or five months or so. They just moved from Virginia to Texas and have a lot on their plates but are still sticking with it. Fred and Lateresa put together a direct mail campaign and through some partnerships, they were able to keep it running even while ...

#075: Business Breakdown with Clients Fred & Lateresa

December 21, 2021 11:00 - 26 minutes - 18 MB

I wanted to bring my clients Fred and Lateresa on the show to talk about where they are in the program and share the successes they’ve been having. The two of them have been on our calls consistently and doing some great work for about four or five months or so. They just moved from Virginia to Texas and have a lot on their plates but are still sticking with it. Fred and Lateresa put together a direct mail campaign and through some partnerships, they were able to keep it running even while ...

074: 35K Check Proves You Should Never Give Up! with Pepe Campos

December 14, 2021 11:00 - 30 minutes - 20.7 MB

Pepe Campos is a client of mine and I wanted to bring him on to pick his brain on a great deal he just did. He’s a civil engineer who got into real estate a couple of years ago. Pepe became interested in lease options, started exploring on his own, heard about my marketing systems, which led him to come work with me. He really knows the value of being consistent and he couldn’t have done his recent deal without it. Pepe breaks down how he made $35,000 on an assignment after paying a seller...

#074: 35K Check Proves You Should Never Give Up! with Pepe Campos

December 14, 2021 11:00 - 30 minutes - 20.7 MB

Pepe Campos is a client of mine and I wanted to bring him on to pick his brain on a great deal he just did. He’s a civil engineer who got into real estate a couple of years ago. Pepe became interested in lease options, started exploring on his own, heard about my marketing systems, which led him to come work with me. He really knows the value of being consistent and he couldn’t have done his recent deal without it. Pepe breaks down how he made $35,000 on an assignment after paying a seller...

073: The Perfect Hiring Blueprint with Erik Hatch

December 07, 2021 11:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MB

Erik Hatch and I are in masterminds together. I wanted to bring him on to talk about building a successful real estate team and some of the challenges when it comes to hiring. Erik’s been a full-time realtor for ten years and started out part-time while he was working as a minister. He lives and works in Fargo, ND but has properties nationwide and is about to open his sixth market in Minneapolis, MN. He’s built such a successful team over the years that now, his business pretty much runs wit...

#073: The Perfect Hiring Blueprint with Erik Hatch

December 07, 2021 11:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MB

Erik Hatch and I are in masterminds together. I wanted to bring him on to talk about building a successful real estate team and some of the challenges when it comes to hiring. Erik’s been a full-time realtor for ten years and started out part-time while he was working as a minister. He lives and works in Fargo, ND but has properties nationwide and is about to open his sixth market in Minneapolis, MN. He’s built such a successful team over the years that now, his business pretty much runs wit...

#072: How To Make Money in Real Estate and Not Be the Closer with Dustin Kircher

December 01, 2021 11:00 - 33 minutes - 23.4 MB

Dustin Kircher is a good friend and a business partner of mine. He’s done over five thousand real estate transactions across the USA through working with a hedge fund and with that comes a wealth of knowledge. Together, we take a look at a couple of recent real-life deals where we made some good money and got everyone paid. When there’s creative financing involved, a lot of it comes down to working with other wholesalers to get them over the line and making sure the deal is structured proper...