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588 episodes - English - Latest episode: almost 3 years ago - ★★★★★ - 1 ratingPodcast by Barry Davis
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The Growing Season, Sept 26, 2020 - 1 Year Anniversary Show
September 26, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49 MBAnd just like that, we're 1 years old! The Growing Season celebrates its 1 year anniversary by recapping what the McFarlands learned over the first year of the show. Croci, drone bees and penises, anti freeze in evergreens and many of the other WTF moments are touched on during the course of the show. Tune in to hear Jack, Lynne and Matt wax nostalgic over how far the show has come in 365+ days. All that and more... Need a visual? CLICK HERE. Looking to book a consult for your prop...
Safwan Javed Sept 25, 2020
September 25, 2020 23:22 - 53 minutes - 48.8 MB20 years ago Wide Mouth Mason released “Stew”, which feature the hit single “Smile”. Friday, on the relaunch of “Sessions”, we chat with cofounder, drummer Safwan Javed. Join me and Tom Forth Friday’s as we take you backstage and into the lives of your favourite musicians!
Devon Travis Sept 20 2020
September 20, 2020 16:00 - 1 hour - 55.2 MBWill Devon Travis every play baseball again? We talk to the former Blue Jay from his home in Florida. Devon opens up on life away from the game he loves, dealing with his body letting him down, and why he's going back to school. On a lighter note, we chat how cooking has become a passion of his.
The Growing Season, Sept. 19, 2020 - Wind Pollination, 401 Plants
September 19, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.8 MBSometimes the bees are benched. The McFarlands of The Growing Season chat about the plants that pollinated by mother nature and not our winged friends. You'll be surprised to learn that you're probably eating something that was not born of the buzz. Matt coined the term "401 Plants" earlier in the year and it stuck. A 401 plant is one that you could plant in the middle of a highway and it will thrive. Think hardy. Really hardy! Black Eyed Susie, Beauty Bush and more are all discuss...
Woody Williams September 13, 2020
September 13, 2020 16:00 - 1 hour - 60.2 MBLife after baseball is treating Woody Williams well these days. He's a volunteer coach and a grandfather, but things weren't so great when he first left the majors. The former Blue Jay. Padre, Cardinal and Astro, joins Barry Davis and Tom Forth for an intimate conversation, where he opens up about how he almost let his marriage slip away. We also get into much better times, including his years with the Jays
The Growing Season, Sept 12, 2020 - The Asteraceae Family
September 12, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.9 MBIts all in the family! The asteraceae family is the largest plant family in the plant kingdom. The McFarlands discuss the interesting relations and members of the family that you never thought would be cousins. Lettuce and sneezeweed! Yeah, they're related. All that and more... Need a visual? CLICK HERE. Looking to book a consult for your property with spring finally here? We'd love to help. CLICK HERE. What is a TGS Tiny Garden? CLICK HERE. Subscribe to The Growing Season podca...
Sept 6 2020 Jordan Romano
September 06, 2020 16:00 - 48 minutes - 44.7 MBWhat a roller coaster ride it has been for Blue Jays reliever Jordan Romano. Over the last year he was claimed in the rule 5 draft from the White Sox, traded to the Rangers, given back to the Jays, where he is now pitching like an All-Star closer. The Markham, Ontario native shares his journey on Outta The Park. We also get the latest on his injured finger.
The Growing Season Sept 5, 2020 - Made In The Shade
September 05, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.8 MBYOU THROWING SHADE? Shade...one of the most confounding and difficult horticultural scenarios to tackle. Many of our clients throw their hands up when discussing this very topic. Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland detail the challenges that go along with creating a shade garden that supplies the same impact as a sun garden. What to plant and where and what to avoid are all topics that are discussed on the latest episode of The Growing Season. All that and more... Need a visual? CLICK HE...
Anthony Alford Aug 30 2020
August 30, 2020 16:00 - 50 minutes - 46.4 MBFormer Blue Jay Anthony Alford discusses joins Barry Davis and new co-host Tom Forth. Alford a wide range of topics from being DFA'd by the Jays, to being a new dad , to the systemic racism in the US.
The Growing Season, Aug 29, 2020 - Aromatics, Skunks, Squirrels
August 29, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.7 MBWow! That has a strong smell! Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland steer The Growing Season into scented waters. Some scents you'll find appealing, others not so much. The trio discuss aromatic plants and their uses. Where should you plant them for maximum effect? What growing conditions do they require? The McFarlands then dive into the mammals that cohabitate with our plant materials. Skunks and squirrels are discussed at length. Dive into the biology of the critters that may be invading ...
The Growing Season, Aug 22, 2020 - Battleships (Large Evergreen Trees)
August 22, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.3 MBYou sunk my Battleship! Well, in this case, you planted it. The sister program to our Aircraft Carriers show, Battleships chats about large evergreen trees - the ones the size of a Battleship. Pine, Spruce, Fir, Redwood, Cedar and much more are discussed at length as Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland guide you through the do's and dont's of selecting a massive conifer. Lynne relays some interesting history including a mass extinction event involving coniferous trees. All that much more on T...
The Growing Season, Aug 15, 2020 - Ferns And Ornamental Grasses
August 15, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.4 MBOrnamental grasses - considered to be high fashion in the landscape world at present - are just some of the focus of this week's episode of The Growing Season. Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland chat about how to work with grasses, their history and why they are so popular right now. Then the conversation veers into the topic of ferns. Matt admits that he hasn't used ferns enough in his landscape projects and vows to remedy that. What of fern reproduction!? Its a complicated topic but th...
The Growing Season, Aug. 8, 2020 - Aircraft Carriers (Large Shade Trees)
August 08, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.1 MBTake an aircraft carrier and stand it up, end to end, on your property. That's what we're chatting about. AIRCRAFT CARRIER sized leafers. BIG, MOMMA-HONKING TREES! Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland chat about the sights they've seen on jobsites with regards to monstrous trees planted in the wrong places. What should you plant if you have the property and space to do so? The trio offer some trees to consider and some to avoid at all costs. Filled to the brim with stories from this ye...
The Growing Season, August 1, 2020 - LawnSense
August 01, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49 MBWhat's all the fuss about grass? Not the recently legalized type, but the stuff that covers our yards. Why do we spend so much manicuring the lawn? What does it cost the average household per year to maintain? Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland steer The Growing Season into the waters of your lawn and why its such a staple. Is your grass burning off in the summer? We'll tell you why. What does overwatering look like? We gotcha. All that and more on the lawn edition of The Growing Seas...
The Growing Season July 25, 2020 - Roses
July 25, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.2 MBWhat a prick! The McFarlands discuss roses and the information SPILLITH over. If you haven't used the visual accompaniment to The Growing Season, this would be the show to start making it a habit. The types of roses, various varieties, colours and history are all discussed along with various other tidbits of info that make roses one of the most sought after but difficult to maintain horticultural organisms. How to prune, what is grafting and what roses to start with if you're new to the...
The Growing Season July 18, 2020 - Insects That BUG Us
July 18, 2020 15:00 - 52 minutes - 48.1 MBYou know the sound! The buzzing in the night that just keeps you awake and frustrates you to no end. DEATH TO THE HOUSEFLY! The Growing Season gang chat about the insects that BUG us. The housefly, aphid, wasp, mosquito and many more are all touched on. Where did they come from and what is their purpose? Matt dives into his deep rooted hatred for the gypsy moth caterpillar and has some strong words about their relationship. Get up close and personal with the pests that pester us a...
The Growing Season July 11, 2020 - Groundcovers And Standards
July 11, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.4 MBThe Growing Season July 11, 2020 - Groundcovers And Standards by Barry Davis
The Growing Season July 4, 2020 - Hedges And Vines
July 04, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.1 MBThe ones that stick and the ones that clipped! Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland steer The Growing Season into the waters of hedges and vines and they giggle along the whole way. What shrubbery and trees do the trio recommend for hedging? How do you prune a hedge? How do you plant one? What vines are the easiest to grow maintain? All of the questions and more are answered in this episode. Need a visual? We gotchu. CLICK HERE. Looking to book a consult for your property with spring f...
The Growing Season June 27, 2020 - Flowering Shrubs
June 27, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.7 MBWhy did it take us so long? The Growing Season crew wonder aloud why it took them so long to discuss flowering shrubs. An integral part of the modern landscape, Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland chat about the do's and dont's of selecting and planting flowering shrub specimens. Don't know what to plant in a shaded location? We answer that. Wonder what shrub blooms the longest? We answer that. Tune in, you'll laugh and come away with some inside knowledge. Need a visual? We gotchu. C...
The Growing Season, June 20, 2020 - Rockeries And Beaver Valley Stone
June 20, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.1 MBLet's get rocked! Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland, the stewards of The Growing Season, discuss one of their favourite topics. Rock Gardens. The trio chat about installing rock gardens on properties and Matt waxes nostalgic about learning the ways of "the force" from Yoda, his father. Tales of 3 point rock elevations and spotters abound. Tanya and Joe of Beaver Valley Stone join Matt and Jack to chat about their booming business, supplying natural stone to many parts of Ontario. The gro...
The Growing Season, June 13, 2020 - Medicinal Plants Part 2
June 13, 2020 17:00 - 53 minutes - 49.3 MBThe Growing Season's most popular show gets a sequel! Medicinal plants Part 1 has gone down in the history of The Growing Season as the most popular show the McFarlands have ever recorded. During Part 1 the crew lamented that they only got to a small portion of the information. You asked and the clan has delivered. Poppies, Ginkgo, St. Johns Wort, Digitalis and many others are touched on - all highlighting their medicinal benefits on Medicinal Plants pt. 2. Looking to introduce som...
The Growing Season, June 6, 2020 - Tree Talk
June 06, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.2 MBSo you wanna plant a tree? Good call! Matt, Jack and Lynne McFarland get down to the nitty gritty when it comes to choosing the right tree for any property. One of the most costly and rewarding horticultural purchases you can make, trees not only add shade, colour and curb appeal to your home, they also reduce the scale of your house and give you leaf at a different elevation. The McFarlands detail their favourite trees to plant for clients and they tell stories about the lowlights of the...
OTP June 5 Lloyd Moseby
June 05, 2020 23:28 - 22 minutes - 20.9 MBFormer Toronto Blue Jay Lloyd Moseby talks openly and honestly about racism in the USA and how it has personally affected him
Outta The Park Ep. 161, May 31, 2020 - Guest - Dioner Navarro
May 31, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 58.1 MBDioner the teacher? The former Blue Jay and fan favourite updates us on the condition of his wife and how he’s spending his time during COVID. He’s opened a baseball academy. How is that going and what has he learned about himself. Dioner discusses his comeback bid and the journey to where he is now. The First Pitch tackles many COVID related issues, not the least of which is the standoff between the MLB and the MLBPA. The guys chat about a tragedy in the OTP family. Matt discusses a...
The Growing Season May 30, 2020 - Perennials
May 30, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.9 MBAnd now for the ones that just keep coming back! After last week's show about annual flowers, The Growing Season crew dive into the subject of perennials - herbaceous organisms that come back season after season. You're gonna want to use the visual accompaniment for this episode. The names of plant materials are coming at you hot and heavy and its a lot to take in. Link below. What perennials to plant where, some recommendations and many stories about planting these suckers are all touch...
Outta The Park Ep. 160, May 24, 2020 - Guest - LaTroy Hawkins
May 24, 2020 15:50 - 58 minutes - 53.2 MBHe faced Mike! LaTroy Hawkins joins us to chat about his time with the Blue Jays and he charts his journey from Gary Indiana all the way to bigs. What is the connection between LaTroy and many famous Mike’s? Speaking of connection, LaTroy talks about his connection to his brother and he tells a tale about his sibling that is unbelievable. The OTP boys and LaTroy chat about pitching against MJ in the minor leagues. The First Pitch discusses how the MLB and the MLBPA are going to bridg...
The Growing Season, May 23, 2020 - Annual Flowers
May 23, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.2 MBIts almost THAT time of the year. ALMOST! Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland steer The Growing Season ship into the waters of annual plants. With many of us excited to begin painting with horticultural colour, Matt issues a caution to those thinking of planting too early. What annuals should you plant where? How do you establish a colour scheme and what are the secrets to bright vibrant annual colour? The Growing Season touches on all of these topics. Need a visual? We gotchu. CLICK ...
Outta The Park Ep. 159, May 17, 2020 - Guest - Candy Maldonado
May 17, 2020 19:12 - 59 minutes - 54.8 MBThe Candy Man joins us for the first time on Outta The Park! Candido Maldonado Guadarrama chimes in with a story about being traded that is one for the history books. What was it like walking into the Blue Jays Clubhouse in 1991? That was a stacked lineup and Candy has some stories to tell. Candy discusses the Puerto Rican culture as its represented in Toronto and his time with Cito Gaston and what he remembers about the man on the front lines of back to back World Series wins. The Fir...
The Growing Season May 16, 2020 - Vegetables, Julia Dimakos
May 16, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.8 MBWe've been asked about veggies time and time again and we wanted to have the perfect guest to complement the subject. Julia Dimakos, our veggie Jedi joins us. Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland tee up getting a raised veggie ready for planting and Julia joins the crew to fill in the blanks. The trio laugh along to stories of Julia's beginnings then she guides the guys through many a-ha moments that have helped her to uncover the secrets below the soil. She's wonderful and we're honoured...
Outta The Park, Ep. 158, May 10, 2020 - Guest - John Gibbons
May 10, 2020 15:50 - 54 minutes - 49.9 MB***CAUTION*** Things get sweary. NSFW or home! GIBBY! John Gibbons checks in and discusses what he is up during isolation. How has he been keeping himself occupied? John talks about his interview with the Houston Astros and would he have wanted to get involved with that circus? Did he think he could have handled it? The trio discuss umpires, electronic strike zones and stealing signs in a game without a clock. Its an all encompassing chat with a fan favourite. The First Pitch gets ...
The Growing Season, May 9, 2020 - Plant Selection
May 09, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.2 MBAnd now we're getting to the good stuff! The Growing Season crew chat about plant selection and the choices that many of their clients have made throughout the years that have turned out to be wonderful surprises and some that have been less so. Matt talks about Landscaping in 2020 becoming lazy and how he seeks to remedy that situation. "Having a wheelbarrow and pickup truck doesn't make you a landscaper..." From planting trees that are far and away too large for the property or planti...
Bye By Love: Driven, A Tribute to The Cars
May 05, 2020 15:13 - 4 minutes - 3.9 MBThe Nation's premiere tribute to The Cars, Driven, brings these incredible songs back to life. For more information visit their FB page @Drivencarstribute
Outta The Park Ep. 157, May 3, 2020 - Guest - Danny Valencia
May 03, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 58.4 MBFormer Blue Jay Danny Valencia joins Outta The Park. One of the most misunderstood Blue Jays talks openly about just that. Barry recounts a story about Danny Valencia saving him from certain disaster. It all goes down in a haunted hotel. Vasectomies and pet peeves are just some of the topics that Barry, Danny and Matt cover. Has Trolls World Tour changed the movie landscape? Will movie theatres go under after COVID is all said and done because of the unprecedented success of Trolls Wo...
The Growing Season May 2, 2020 - Fruit Trees, Fruiting Bushes, Tiny Steps
May 02, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49.4 MBTiny Steps... What are things that you can plant besides the norm to produce food during these uncertain times? Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland discuss the tiny steps that we can all take, horticulturally, to avoid standing in lines at the grocery store and leaning on our farmers. Berry bushes, fruit trees, espaliers and more are all topics that The Growing Season trio chat about. Its fun, its light, its The Growing Season. Need a visual? We gotchu. CLICK HERE. Looking to book a co...
Outta The Park Ep. 156, April 27, 2020 - Guest - Danny Jansen
April 27, 2020 17:55 - 57 minutes - 52.2 MBDanny Jansen joins Outta The Park. Danny Jansen talks about his goings on during times like these. How is he coping? Does Danny feel like baseball will happen this year? How is he filling his competitive urges. You’ll be surprised. Detailing everything from his workout regiment to his relationships during isolation, Danny is forthcoming and fun. The First Pitch discusses the current situation regarding COVID-19. Barry and Matt discuss a wonderful gesture from a loyal listener. It ...
The Growing Season April 25
April 25, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 49 MBWHY DON'T THOSE TREES HAVE PANTS ON!? Jack and Matt McFarland of The Growing Season discuss the practice of installing and working with bare root plant materials. Why did they switch over to container grown? When did it happen and how did it revolutionize the industry? Matt gushes about Connon Nurseries and their expanse of horticulture wonder. Jason and Derek of Unilock Georgetown welcome The McFarlands into the nerve centre of Unilock to chat about the industry and how homeowners and...
Outta The Park Ep. 155, April 19, 2020 - Guest - Joe Biagini
April 19, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 59.1 MBJoe Biagini joins us to lighten the mood. Honestly, we all need this. During the frightening times that we are currently living in Joe’s humour is such a welcome addition to Outta the Park. MLB players wearing Daft Punk helmets, hot dogs, strawberries and painting bedrooms are just some of the topics that come up. The First Pitch discusses how MLB is set to bring live baseball back to the masses. The re-broadcast of the infamous 2015 7th inning that featured Jose Bautista’s heroic bat...
The Growing Season April 18, 2020 - Spring Pruning, FELCO
April 18, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.9 MBThe first cut is the deepest. The McFarlands of The Growing Season get into the precision cuts of spring pruning. The history of pruning and why it started in the first place is touched on and Jack, Lynne and Matt dive into the nitty gritty of the snippy snippy. How should you prune a rose? What about perennials and flowering shrubs? We have all that info for ya, delivered in the typical Growing Season style. Ryan Amberg of FELCO Swiss made horticultural clippers joins The Growing Sea...
Touch And Go /Driven, a tribute to The Cars
April 14, 2020 14:36 - 4 minutes - 4.5 MBThe first single from Canada's premiere tribute to The Cars, Driven. Driven features Barry Davis/Lead vocals/rhythm guitar Emilio Lamorte/Lead guitar Tom Forth/Bass Tony Cutrone/Keyboards Matt McFarland/Drums
Outta The Park Ep. 154, April 12, 2020 - Guest - Mike Timlin
April 12, 2020 20:41 - 1 hour - 75.2 MBMike Timlin joins Outta The Park! The Pitcher that was on the mound when the Blue Jays won the World Series for the first time. How is Mike dealing with the self isolation during COVID-19 and what does he think about the state of today’s game. The magic of the year that was 1992 is discussed and Barry, Matt and Mike reminisce about how there was something supernatural about everything that went on that year. The First Pitch details the MLB’s ideas to get baseball back on the field and...
The Growing Season - Easter And Spring Clean Ups
April 11, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.7 MBHappy Easter to everyone. The McFarlands, stewards of The Growing Season, return with a show about all the horticultural wonders associated with Easter. Easter Lily, Hydrangea, Daffodils and many other forced bulbs are chatted about with humour and a side of history. Frozen bulbs and snow BALLS? Yeah, the guys have a giggle about that. Pat McFarland, regular on the show and owner of Best Cut, joins the show to chat about the many things you can do to get your property ready for the u...
Todd Sucherman with Barry Davis
April 08, 2020 11:34 - 39 minutes - 36.3 MBHe's arguably the most accomplished living drummer in Rock! Not only has Todd Sucherman been a member of Styx for 20 years, he also has a new solo album call "Last Flight Home" Todd talks about the new release as well as his life with Styx.
Outta The Park, Ep. 153, April 5, 2020 - Guest - Marco Estrada
April 05, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 55.8 MBMarco the magician joins Outta The Park. Where is Marco medically and how is he spending his extended off season? Cars, video games and reminiscing about the magic of 2015 are just some of the topics that Barry, Marco and Matt touch on. The First Pitch talks about when baseball opens up will you go to a game? Even if its deemed safe will you go? Matt and Barry debate the pros and cons of being scared. Matt tells a story about Fox Sports play by play guy and how he’s being sent “mat...
The Growing Season - Peat Moss And The Land Line
April 04, 2020 15:00 - 52 minutes - 48.1 MBShould we be using Peat Moss? It's a question that the McFarland's felt needed some air time. You won't believe the implications surrounding the use of one the best growing mediums known to gardeners. Jack, Matt and Lynne wind through the ins and outs of extracting peat from bogs and the ecological implications of doing so. So, it's bad to use peat? Now what? There are alternatives and The Growing Season crew outline them. All is not doom and gloom though. The Growing Season debuts ...
Outta The Park Ep. 152, March 29, 2020 - Guest - Matt Shoemaker
March 29, 2020 15:50 - 57 minutes - 52.9 MBShoebacca joins Outta the Park. Matt Shoemaker and Barry chat about what information was percolating into Spring Training prior to it shutting down. What are Matt’s thoughts on everything that is going on? “Up until yesterday we had access to our facility in Dunedin and then they just shut it down…” The First Pitch discusses sweat pants and the frequency of people wearing them for days on end. Are you watching old sporting events? Barry is binging. Matt tells an interesting story...
The Growing Season, March 28, 2020 - Plant Plagues
March 28, 2020 15:00 - 52 minutes - 48 MBAll 3 McFarlands, socially distancing. Jack, Lynne and Matt McFarland pivot to a remote recording setup during the COVID19 pandemic and chat about epidemics that swept through the sphere of horticulture. Dutch Elm Disease, Mountain Pine Beetles and Ash Borers are all discussed at length, from the history of the events, the perpetrators and the aftermath. Along the way Matt gets frisky and tells a story about breastfeeding and violets. Not kidding in the slightest. The Growing Seas...
Outta The Park Ep. 151, March 22, 2020 - Guest - Kevin Pillar
March 22, 2020 15:50 - 1 hour - 67.1 MBKevin Pillar of The Boston Red Sox joins Outta The Park. Mr. Pillar discusses his new team and how it felt to put on a Red Sox jersey. Kevin’s newest endeavour is an online workout program and he chats with Barry about how he came to be involved with it. There is baby on the way!!! Kevin discusses. Kevin also chats about Kobe Bryant and his affection for the former NBA’er. The First Pitch features a discussion about COVID-19 and the OTP guys offer their thoughts on Donald Trump’s ha...
The Growing Season, March 21, 2020 - Medical Plants, Marijuana
March 21, 2020 15:00 - 53 minutes - 48.9 MBAmid the COVID-19 outbreak the Growing Season guys deliver some horticultural hilarity. Jack and Matt McFarland, your hosts, chat about all the horticultural organisms that are used to make modern medicine... and FINALLY, they have a discussion about marijuana. Never, in the history of The Growing Season, has one plant been so widely requested. All manner of Willows, Echinacea, Ginseng and more are also discussed. A new segment called "Pick Your Battles" debuts, wherein the guys deb...
The Growing Season, March 14, 2020 - St. Patricks Day
March 14, 2020 15:00 - 52 minutes - 48.4 MBLadies and gents, it's time for a drink. The Growing Season guys, who are of Irish descent dive into the inner workings of the horticultural aspects of St. Patrick's Day. Soda bread, potatoes, onions, shamrocks and the like are all discussed. The McFarlands touch on the Irish famine and the reason their ancestors made their way to Canada. Its a heavy subject, handled with the respect it deserves. Don't fear though, the usual Growing Season humour is not forgotten. Jack, Matt and Lynn...
Outta The Park, March 13, 2020. Ep. 151 - Dr. Nathan Stall, Coronavirus
March 13, 2020 17:56 - 58 minutes - 53.8 MBOutta The Park, March 13, 2020. Ep. 151 - Dr. Nathan Stall, Coronavirus by Barry Davis