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Zoo Logic

326 episodes - English - Latest episode: 24 days ago - ★★★★★ - 85 ratings

Zoo Logic with animal trainer, zoo advocate, and ZOOmility author, Dr. Grey Stafford, is a weekly conversation with zoo, aquarium, and animal experts about Nature, wildlife, pets, animal training with positive reinforcement, health and welfare, research, conservation, and education, sustainability, zoo politics, activism and legislation, and all things animals! On Zoo Logic, we’ll go behind the scenes with animal professionals and influencers from around the world to explore the latest Zoos News and issues affecting wildlife, wild places, and people. Communicating with humor, cool stories, and candor, we’ll discover the interdependent connection between civilization, conservation, and commerce.

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Seafood Watch

September 26, 2019 08:00 - 32 minutes - 24 MB

Increasingly, zoos and aquariums are being called upon to fund and develop science-based research and practical solutions to environmental problems like species extinction and dramatic declines in species abundance. For the past two decades one demonstrably successful consumer-facing program meeting the needs of commerce and conservation has been Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch. What began as a temporary campaign with printed lists of sustainably sourced seafood dining options for the ...

Tell Me Something I Don't know

September 19, 2019 08:00 - 14 minutes - 12.3 MB

This week's Zoo Logic episode is a mash-up of researchers, trainers, and news items from around the zoo and aquarium world following the recent professional joint conference for the Association of Zoos and Aquariums (www.AZA.org) and the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association (www.IMATA.org) in New Orleans. Past guest Jeremy Hance, writer for (www.Mongabay.com) shares insights into a species few have ever heard of. And, working with another past guest, Dr Jason Bruck, Samantha She...

The Big "Bad" Wolf Needs Our Help

September 12, 2019 08:00 - 46 minutes - 33.8 MB

Demonized for centuries in literature, pop culture, and most worrisome of all, in the execution of public policy, several canid species are on the edge of extinction. Ginny Busch, CEO of the Endangered Wolf Center describes their work and ongoing challenges to preserving species such as Mexican Gray Wolves, African painted Dogs, and the most endangered canid species of all, the Red Wolf.  The center not only breeds and helps introduce young wolves into the wild, it is partnering with federal...

Deciphering Deep Diving Dolphins

September 05, 2019 08:00 - 1 hour - 53.9 MB

Dr. Andreas Fahlman, senior researcher for the Oceanographic Foundation in Valencia Spain shares insights into the respiratory physiology and behavior of offshore and coastal bottlenose dolphins. In addition to significant size differences between these two distinct populations from the same species of dolphin, the larger offshore type has been observed routinely diving to depths of 1000m, whereas the much smaller near shore animals rarely venture beyond depths of 10m. His research to date s...

Evolution of the Orca Conservancy

August 29, 2019 08:00 - 1 hour - 46.1 MB

Founded in 1996 in hopes of reuniting one killer whale with her wild cousins, the Orca Conservancy today is focused on preserving the endangered population of Southern Resident Killer Whales (SRKW) that frequent the waters around Seattle and Vancouver part of the year. It's this steadfast mission to prevent the SRKW from extinction that put the Orca Conservancy at odds recently with a well-publicized plan by the Whale Sanctuary Project to build in SRKW waters, a permanent whale holding facil...

Phoenix Herpetological Society

August 22, 2019 08:00 - 55 minutes - 39.8 MB

We are onsite with the three founders of the Phoenix Herpetological Society to discuss their passion for rescuing animals in need, conserving endangered species, and educating the public about all kinds of ectotherms from cobras to crocodiles. PHS' mission is to "promote conservation and preservation of native and non-native reptiles through education, rehabilitation, rescue, and relocation." From its humble start, PHS now cares for over 1000 animals and boasts several firsts such as "Mr. St...

Zoos Saving Mexican Gray Wolves From Extinction

August 15, 2019 08:00 - 29 minutes - 22.3 MB

We return to the Phoenix Zoo to discuss their collaborative work to save another endangered species, the Mexican Gray Wolf, which as recently as the early 1970's came within a handful of remaining founder animals from being deliberately exterminated across the West and Mexico. Senior carnivore keeper, Carl Mohler describes how caring for a social group pf predators that may one day be introduced to the wild is very different from other species found in zoos and aquariums. The relationships o...

Gayle Bass: Radio, TV and Animals, Oh My!

August 08, 2019 08:00 - 35 minutes - 26.2 MB

Host of the viral videos television show Right This Minute (www.RightThisMinute.com), Gayle Bass reminisces about how her early career experiences such as an intern, a film critic, and a radio reporter led to her role as one of the original hosts of RTM, now starting its 9th season. As a huge fan of wild and domestic animals, and having met many animal ambassadors throughout her media career, Gayle shares some unique insights from years of scouring the Internet in search of the next video to...

Deep Sea Explorer Sylvia Earle

August 01, 2019 08:00 - 1 hour - 55.6 MB

The 1970's was a decade of unparalleled exploration far above and below the sea. From astronauts driving on the moon and unmanned probes collecting data on the outer planets to piercing the deepest oceans in new submersibles, scientists and engineers achieved some of the greatest feats in human history. One such pioneer, Dr. Sylvia Earle is an ocean scientist and engineer, policymaker and conservationist, and best of all, a record-setting deep sea explorer  whose work over 60 years places he...

Sea of Shadows

July 25, 2019 08:00 - 27 minutes - 21 MB

As part of its work to support research and conservation of marine mammals, the National Marine Mammal Foundation (www.NMMF.org) has been working with many diverse stakeholders to study, preserve, and increase awareness of the world's most endangered marine mammal, an elusive porpoise found only in the far northern Gulf of California known as the vaquita. Their story is featured in a new documentary Sea Of Shadows (www.SeaofShadows.film) by executive producer,  Leonardo DiCaprio (www.Leonard...

Health, Behavior, Longevity, or Feelings? How Should We Measure Animal Welfare?

July 18, 2019 08:00 - 41 minutes - 30.5 MB

Animal welfare science is a relatively new discipline that has generated some degree of debate among scientists, policymakers, animal professionals, animal rights activists, and the public. Even the meaning of the term animal welfare has been cause for scientific and public debate in part because the conversation often includes qualities such as emotions normally associated with humans being applied to animals. Dr. Isabella Clegg shares her work assessing the welfare of dolphins living in hu...

Dropping Like Flies

July 11, 2019 08:00 - 44 minutes - 32.2 MB

In addition to the dramatic declines in charismatic species most people are aware of, research over the past few years suggests we are facing a potential extinction event for insects. This week's episode features  www.mongabay.com frequent contributor, environmental writer Jeremy Hance, to discuss his recent 4-part series on the insect extinction situation based on interviews he's conducted with dozen's of entomologists from around the globe. Jeremy discusses potential root causes such as ov...

Amazon River Dolphins

July 04, 2019 08:00 - 33 minutes - 24.7 MB

Fresh water dolphins like the Amazon River Dolphin face a myriad of challenges including human encroachment and habitat loss, pollution, the damming of river systems, and poaching. The Amazon River Dolphin Conservation Foundation www.ARDCF.org supports local efforts to protect a storied species and its rainforest ecosystem. ARDCF founder and director, Suzanne Smith discusses what she describes as healthy, natural interactions between dolphins and people that protect both animals and people...

Veterinary Suicide Prevention

June 27, 2019 08:00 - 45 minutes - 33.1 MB

In 2014, the training community lost a well-known veterinarian and behavioral consultant, lecturer, author and colleague to suicide. Many were surprised by the loss of someone so successful at her craft and popular among her clients and fans to learn about the high rate of suicide among veterinary professionals. A recent report posted at AAHA.org found "U.S. veterinarians at greater risk for mental illness, suicidal thoughts, and depressive episodes than the general population." Jenifer Chat...

Oh Canada!

June 20, 2019 08:00 - 1 hour - 46.7 MB

An all star panel of Zoo Logic alumni discusses current wildlife news stories including why the misguided and unscientific cetacean ban recently passed by Canada's parliament will have a chilling effect on conservation research. Researchers Dr. Kelly Jaakkola and Dr. Jason Bruck join Killing Keiko author and wildlife advocate, Mark Simmons to describe some of the negative implications for wildlife conservation, public education, field research, and policymaking everywhere, not just in Canada...

American Association of Zoo Keepers

June 13, 2019 08:00 - 21 minutes - 16.6 MB

For more than 50 years, the American Association of Zoo Keepers has been pursuing excellence in animal care, sharing best practices, providing professional development workshops and conferences, and raising serious dollars for the support of conservation organizations in the field helping to preserve endangered species like rhinos and cheetahs. AAZK members have also planted over 100k trees! AAZK's individual members cover the range of zoological expertise from keepers to aquarists, trainers...

The Bear Nonnecessities:

June 06, 2019 08:00 - 35 minutes - 26.6 MB

Asiatic and Sun bear products are traded and consumed illegally throughout SE Asia. The rampant use of bear parts like bile as part of traditional medicine has severely impacted bear populations. While bear farms have been prohibited by some countries, it remains legal to possess bears and thus, the farming for bile largely continues.  San Diego Zoo Global's Institute for Conservation Research scientist, Dr. Elizabeth Davis uses social science methods to uncover the motivation behind bear pr...

In The Navy

May 30, 2019 08:00 - 36 minutes - 27.2 MB

Shrouded in secrecy until it was declassified in the 1990's, the U.S. Navy Marine Mammal Program continues its mission which began nearly 60 years ago to protect service men and women at home and abroad. Dr. Mark Xitco, researcher and Director of the NMMP discusses the rich history of the program, the animal training and welfare focus in use today, the hundreds of publicly available peer-reviewed research papers on marine mammal behavior and physiology the program has produced, and the impor...

American Humane

May 23, 2019 08:00 - 47 minutes - 34.5 MB

American Humane is the oldest organization in the US dedicated to "promoting the welfare and safety of animals and strengthening the bond between animals and people." For more than one hundred years, American Humane has operated wherever animals are in need of rescue, shelter, protection or security. President and CEO, Dr. Robin Ganzert describes the various programs in place to achieve its mission today including working to reunite military dogs wth their human handlers once their service...

Illegal Wildlife Trafficking

May 16, 2019 08:00 - 56 minutes - 41 MB

According to the USFWS, illegal and unsustainable trade in wildlife and plants is a multibillion dollar industry that is having a devastating impact on thousands of species globally. Former Scottish police detective and law enforcement expert, author, and lecturer John Sellar spent 14 years working for CITES where he became Chief of Enforcement and conducted hundreds of missions to more than 60 countries to assess enforcement and develop strategies to combat wildlife crime. His book, ‘The UN...

Elephant in the Capitol

May 09, 2019 05:00 - 39 minutes - 29 MB

Animal law expert and attorney Michelle Pardo returns to Zoo Logic to describe some of the recent and ongoing legislative efforts animal rights organizations are pushing at the local, state, and federal levels. What lessons can we learn about how the legislative process is being used to promote an extreme animal rights agenda, not shared by most people? Why is it so important for animal professionals, zoo and aquarium fans, and taxpayers to pay attention to legislative bills with reasonable ...

Dolphins Live How Long?

May 02, 2019 08:00 - 33 minutes - 25.1 MB

Frequent contributor to Zoo Logic, Dr. Kelly Jaakkola, Director of Research for the Dolphin Research Center discusses the new peer-reviewed study she coauthored and published in the Journal Marine Mammal Science that compared survival rates and life expectancies for bottlenose dolphins living in zoological facilities with comparable values published for wild populations. The main takeaway from the study is dolphins living in zoological facilities today live at least as long or longer than wi...

Dark Horse

April 25, 2019 08:00 - 1 hour - 49.4 MB

According to the book, Dark Horse, society has systems of education and employment management that require us "to be the same as everyone else, only better." As designed, these systems are a zero-sum game with only limited opportunities for a few. Thus, these systems leave "most of us feeling disengaged, frustrated, and yearning for something more personal and authentic." Harvard researcher and Dark Horse coauthor Dr. Ogi Ogas discusses how real life dark horses are able to attaining persona...

Chelsea Clinton

April 17, 2019 17:42 - 19 minutes - 15.4 MB

Our one-on-one conversation with best selling author, advocate, and Vice Chair of the Clinton Foundation, Dr. Chelsea Clinton discussing her new picture book, Don't Let Them Disappear, as well as, memories of her earliest encounters with animals and reliving those experiences by visiting zoos and aquariums with her own children today. In her new book, Chelsea shares the stories of 12 threatened and endangered species--what makes them unique, what risks they face in the wild, and even what si...

Polar Bears: changes in latitudes, changes in attitudes

April 11, 2019 08:00 - 45 minutes - 33.5 MB

Species that will experience the effects of climate change the most are ones that depend on sea ice for survival. As the quantity and quality of sea ice changes and the time gap between the spring thaw and fall formation increases, animals like polar bears are struggling to find adequate high fat prey in the form of ringed seals, which are necessary for the bears to survive the winter. Field biologist turned Director of Conservation and Research at the Assiniboine Park Zoo, Dr. Stephen Peter...

To Thine Own Selfie Be True

April 04, 2019 08:00 - 34 minutes - 25.6 MB

Why do people risk personal injury or death just to get a photo next to wild animals, even those living in the relative safety of a zoo or aquarium? What is it about protective barriers, walls, or fences designed to bring animals and the viewing public safely together in close proximity that communicates to some visitors, "sure, climb over"? A recent incident of a zoo visitor injured for ignoring the safety barriers just to get a selfie with an adult jaguar went viral and highlights the impo...

Weaponizing Transparency

March 28, 2019 08:00 - 31 minutes - 23.5 MB

On occasion, laws and regulations enacted for common sense reasons have purposefully been misapplied by those with agendas and intentions that are radically different from what Congress or state legislatures had in mind. It is difficult to anticipate such unintended consequences in new laws, especially when stakeholders that may be affected by such legislation are excluded from the bill writing and amendment process. Animal related organizations such as zoos and aquariums seem particularly a...

THE Marine Mammal Center

March 21, 2019 08:00 - 38 minutes - 28.2 MB

The Marine Mammal Center in Sausalito is not just the organization that responds to more stranded marine mammals than any other in the world. According to www.TMMC.org, from the depletion of fish stocks to increasing ocean temperatures, human activity threatens marine ecosystems that are vital to the health of our ocean and all life on earth. As a critical first responder to these threats, The Marine Mammal Center is leading the field in ocean conservation through marine mammal rescue, veter...

Cheetahs never prosper...or can they?

March 14, 2019 08:00 - 40 minutes - 29.7 MB

For 45 years, Dr. Laurie Marker has dedicated her life to saving cheetahs, the fastest land mammal on earth. A species of cat like no other, cheetahs face mounting pressures from conflicts with farmers, habitat loss and fragmentation, local and species-wide genetic bottlenecks, and the illegal pet trade. Her love and fascination with the species led Dr. Marker to move to Namibia where in 1990 she established the headquarters for the Cheetah Conservation Fund organization (www.Cheetah.org). D...

Ferret Out!

March 07, 2019 08:00 - 36 minutes - 26.7 MB

The highly touted federal and state program to conserve the Black-footed Ferret over the past three decades is really a story about two interconnected species, of a predator and its prey. Once thought extinct until a tiny number were rediscovered on a rancher's private property, Black-footed Ferret populations plummeted in the wild as humans sought to eradicate their primary source of food, prairie dogs.  In hindsight we recognize today the tremendous ecological importance of prairie dogs th...

Arabian Oryx: Back from Extinction

February 28, 2019 08:00 - 31 minutes - 23.8 MB

By the late 1960's, the Arabian oryx was considered extinct in the wild. Some of the few remaining animals living in human care were sent to the Phoenix Zoo in the early 1970's because its desert climate matched the species' former natural range across the Middle East. From just nine animals, zoo professionals were able to establish a successful breeding herd with subsequent offspring sent to other zoos to rebuild a sustainable population. The program was so successful that by 1982, Arabian ...

Good Grief?

February 21, 2019 08:00 - 23 minutes - 18.2 MB

Historically, animal professionals were discouraged from sharing feelings of grief over the loss of a pet or zoo animal. To do otherwise might call into question one's ability to remain objective when managing, studying, or conserving wild species. In other words, emotionally speaking, animals should be kept at arm's length and zookeepers shouldn't have favorites! Such attitudes about the need to acknowledge one's grief over the passing of a favorite furry, scaly or feathered friend seem t...

Peaceful Pangolins

February 14, 2019 08:00 - 38 minutes - 28.5 MB

While other well known and charismatic species like rhinos, tigers, and elephants garner more headlines, the small, shy, and nocturnal pangolin has the sad distinction of being the globe's most illegally trafficked animal. Prized for their meat and the few hundred keratin scales that cover their bodies like a suit of armor that's strong enough to repel lion attacks, pangolins are no match for Nature's top predator, man. And the result of the industrial-sized poaching occurring over the past ...

Three Decades of the Condor

February 07, 2019 08:00 - 42 minutes - 31.2 MB

The California Condor is the largest bird naturally found in North America and by the mid 1980's its population had plummeted to a few dozen individuals. Society had a choice: let the species pass into oblivion or develop a bold and untested plan to collect, preserve, and eventually, repopulate the desert southwest with wild animals and their descendants that could fend for themselves. Animal expert Michael Mace from San Diego Zoo Global describes some of the early obstacles to success and...

China's orcas. From Russia, with love?

January 31, 2019 08:00 - 50 minutes - 37 MB

China is experiencing tremendous growth in the popularity, number and size of family attractions under development, especially aquariums featuring marine mammals. In recent years, Russia has been a primary source of the larger marine mammal species sent to these major aquarium projects. Against the backdrop of this demand which is projected to grow, scant reports, including one by CBS News late last year, have raised concerns over the status of approximately 100 orcas and beluga whales colle...

Giraffe: the forgotten megafauna

January 24, 2019 08:00 - 50 minutes - 36.7 MB

Perhaps because they are silent giants synonymous with zoos and the African landscape it is difficult to imagine a world without the iconic species known as giraffe. Their unique familiarity ingrained in human consciousness may help explain how the tallest land mammal suddenly and quietly slipped from "least concern" to "endangered" status according to the IUCN, much to the surprise of everyone over the past few years, even wildlife professionals. Now that we've all been warned of the peril ...

Vulture Culture

January 17, 2019 08:00 - 31 minutes - 23.8 MB

Throughout history and literature few species have been as unfairly disparaged and misunderstood as vultures. Despite serving as Nature's "garbage disposal," capable of digesting harmful bacteria that would kill most other animals, the vulture has long been viewed with fear or scorn. Today, this important group of long-lived and slowly reproducing species is under threat of extinction not as a direct target of human activities but as an indirect and innocent participant in the very scavengin...

The Force is with Actor, Author, and Animal Advocate Carolyn Hennesy

January 10, 2019 08:00 - 55 minutes - 40 MB

Few people from Hollywood have been as demonstrably supportive of modern zoos and aquariums, helping animals in need, and conserving our planet over the past decade as Emmy winning actor and best selling author, Carolyn Hennesy. Carolyn joins Zoo Logic to discuss some of her new creative projects coming in 2019, including assuming the iconic role of General Leia Organa in two animated series: Star Wars Resistance and Lego Star Wars: All-Stars. Carolyn also shares the latest news about her ho...

Mountain Gorilla Recovery

January 03, 2019 08:00 - 12 minutes - 10.3 MB

We begin 2019 by celebrating an increasingly scarce conservation "win" with news by the IUCN that mountain gorillas have been down-listed from critically endangered to endangered. Mountain gorillas are the elusive great ape species introduced to most of the world by the famous primatologist Dian Fossey, who studied and ultimately lost her life protecting the animals. And who better to discuss the decades-long effort to preserve these gentle giants, not just for today but indefinitely, and to...

Zoo Logic's 2018 Year End Review

December 27, 2018 08:00 - 1 hour - 48.5 MB

Highlights from 2018's lineup of Zoo Logic guests including world renowned trainers, celebrities, best selling authors, scientists, veterinarians, and entrepreneurs, as well as, perspectives from legal, public policy, and conservation experts.  Trainers 0:51 Ken Ramirez www.clickertraining.com 4:09 Erin Ivory elephant manager and consultant 5:05 Barbara Heidenreich  7:45 Dave and Jess Peranteau, Odysea Aquarium 10:04 Professor Gary Wilson, Moorpark College 10:51 Joe Markham, Ko...

Jungle Jack Hanna Returns

December 20, 2018 08:00 - 23 minutes - 18 MB

World-renowned wildlife storyteller Sir David Attenborough and the BBC were criticized recently for essentially portraying a view of Nature that was too positive. According to the op-ed which appeared in The Guardian, "By downplaying our environmental crisis, the presenter's BBC films have generated complacency, confusion and ignorance" amongst the viewing public. While the criticism goes to an unfair extreme, the author does identify a longstanding dilemma, not just for famous environment...

Training makes the animal world go round

December 13, 2018 08:00 - 48 minutes - 35.4 MB

Travel along the old route 66 west of Flagstaff and you'll find the historic town of Williams, Arizona, home of a unique zoo called Bearizona. It features a drive through section with dozens of black bears, bison, and other species native to ponderosa pine country. During a recent visit we learned how the animal team uses operant conditioning and their "enrichment truck" to safely manage and monitor groups of big animals living in extra large spaces.  Next we talk with Kolmården Wildlife P...

"Wild," wild horses?

December 06, 2018 08:00 - 47 minutes - 34.8 MB

Have wild horses become America's tribble?  Guests from the Arizona Department of Game and Fish discuss the contentious subject of US wild horse policy, which is often marked by passions and frustration on all sides. Congress passed the landmark 1971 Wild Free-roaming Horse and Burros Act to preserve those specific “unbranded and unclaimed” animals on public lands from steep declines in the preceding decades. Unlike native wildlife species, these feral horses have had a unique legal standi...

Peppermint Narwhal: conservation storytelling through art

November 29, 2018 08:00 - 35 minutes - 26.6 MB

Not all wildlife warriors use rakes, shovels or whistles as their tools for preserving a part of Nature. Some like Brian Masuga, one half of the husband and wife creative team at Peppermint Narwhal, use their art to tell "fun, whimsical" and always informative conservation stories about animals, from the every day kind to the endangered. Brian believes that through art we can breakdown the language barriers that sometimes exist across the globe to become better conservation storytellers in a...

Training should be fun!

November 22, 2018 08:00 - 39 minutes - 29.2 MB

Conversations with animal training and research experts from our recent travels to Portugal and Japan. Guests Mandy Rodriguez, co-founder of the Dolphin Research Center, DRC's Director of Research and Zoo Logic contributor, Dr. Kelly Jaakkola, and professor Satoru Yamamoto pay homage, each in their own unique way to our animal training and care past, the growing focus on conducting research in the present, and the future potential for greater understanding, and improved training and welfare ...

Pets for Vets

November 15, 2018 08:00 - 32 minutes - 24.3 MB

Using positive reinforcement-based skills she learned while training marine animals, and on a chance visit to a VA hospital with her own dog named "bear," Clarissa Black witnessed the full potential that the human-animal bond might provide service men and women returning from war and suffering from PTSD. So she formed an organization called Pets for Vets to identify, match, and train dogs in need of forever homes with vets in need of companion animals that fit their individual lifestyle and ...

Global perspectives on zoo animal training and welfare with IMATA's Billy Hurley

November 08, 2018 08:00 - 52 minutes - 37.7 MB

Executive Director of the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association, Billy Hurley joins Dr. Grey Stafford, former president of www.IMATA.org following their three-day training seminar held at Osaka ECO college for students and zoo professionals. Billy discusses cultural differences and similarities, as well as, training challenges and improved welfare opportunities for zoo and training professionals from his work in Japan and other regions of Asia. Beyond its original, near 50-year o...

Terry Ryan: 50 years of humane dog training

November 01, 2018 08:00 - 36 minutes - 27.1 MB

Terry Ryan has been training dogs and their owners from all over the world for 50 years. A self-described "crossover" trainer, Terry has witnessed and helped lead the ongoing transformation of companion animal training from the old days of relying heavily on behavior corrections using aversive methods to today's focus on animal behavior success using positive reinforcement. In addition to operating her own training facility, Legacy Canine, in the Pacific Northwest, she is an instructor for t...

What [zoos] got here is failure to communicate

October 25, 2018 08:00 - 52 minutes - 37.9 MB

On location at the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association annual conference hosted by Zoomarine in Algarve, Portugal, Dr. Grey Stafford talks with Dr. Jo Fava, marine mammal ophthalmologist, about the importance of certain supplements in zoological diets. Specifically, she describes her interest in what is known and yet to be discovered about the role of carotenoids like lutein on pinniped and cetacean vision. Also featured is Élio Vicente, Director of External Affairs sharing h...

Animal training, research, conservation and Morgan the deaf killer whale

October 18, 2018 07:30 - 43 minutes - 31.5 MB

Zoo Logic is in Algarve, Portugal for the International Marine Animal Trainers' Association annual conference. Our guests are Dolphin Research Center's Dr Kelly Jaakkola, Karen Pryor's Ken Ramirez, and Loro Parque's Dr. Javier Almunia. Kelly and Ken talk about the importance and current state of research and training in zoos and aquariums, and their impact on wild populations. Plus, Dr. Almunia describes his organization's research, conservation projects and success stories for rare birds ...

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