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Some Work, All Play

237 episodes - English - Latest episode: 6 days ago -

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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156. Strength Work Tips, New Golden Ticket Races, and Brain Circuits and Habits!

May 30, 2023 15:19 - 1 hour - 75 MB

We filled our wine glasses with protein powder for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on how athletes can think about strength work. It's an area where our coaching approach has evolved over time based on how we have seen the research interact with real-world performance! Should you use lighter weight or heavier weight? One set or multiple sets? Should you be grunting like you're passing a kidney stone the size of a pineapple? We break down the magic e...

155. Hormones and Athletics, Ultra Legs Strength, and Improving Technical Running!

May 23, 2023 15:47 - 1 hour - 83.6 MB

We woke up before sunrise like it was Christmas morning for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on simple tips to improve technical running, and how the principles of thinking about form on difficult terrain can also improve health and performance on roads. After this episode, you'll believe in the ultimate power of THE CHOP. We also talked about a wonderful new study (led by Dr. Megan) with a whopping 10-year time horizon, looking at improving health o...

154. Spicy Hot Takes, Long-Term Training Studies, and Protein Powders!

May 16, 2023 14:02 - 1 hour - 72.6 MB

It's getting hot in here, so we took off most of our clothes for PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on a new review study looking at all of the research on long-term training approaches. What works? What doesn't? On a scale of 0 to infinity, how much ice cream should you be eating? We have 3 takeaways for all levels of athletes about training volume, deemphasizing VO2 max, and cross training. Ice cream is implied! We use that study as a jumping-off point to discuss how our training...

153. Grayson Murphy Interview! World Champion Talks Happiness and Athletics!

May 09, 2023 17:44 - 1 hour - 72.4 MB

We are so excited for this episode where we got to party with one of our favorite people: Grayson Murphy. She was fresh off a double national championship, winning the U.S. Uphill Champs on one day, followed by the U.S. Mountain Champs the next day, both in dominant fashion. In a few short years, she has established herself as one of the best trail runners in world history. How did she do it? Grayson describes a journey that was as much emotional as physical, learning to find happiness in th...

152. Canyons 100k Lessons, 5 Rules for Fueling During Runs, and Lower Volume Training!

May 02, 2023 15:15 - 1 hour - 81.5 MB

We did a happy dance for the most wonderful day of the week: Podcast Tuesday! The main discussion was on fun takeaways from racing the Canyons 100k. David stepped up into the unknown and was 5th place! But what made the day really special was hitting a low point when it seemed impossible, and finding out that there was more to give. Our suggestion is to try something really big and really scary, whether it's in athletics or something else. Shoot those shots! The race discussion led to tons o...

151. Blood Volume Science, Emotions and Performance, and Double Doctor Celebration!

April 25, 2023 17:16 - 1 hour - 78.8 MB

We put our party hats on for the ultimate celebration: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on lactate shuttles in the body, and the connection between lactate and fatigue at all intensity levels. It's so fascinating how this molecule connects what we all feel during training, from a professional athlete to someone who is going on their first hike! But the main discussion was on Megan's PhD defense and her research in female athlete health and performance. The study findings = IMPORT...

150. How To Improve Fueling, Boston Marathon Hot Takes, and Longevity and Running Science!

April 18, 2023 14:55 - 1 hour - 76.9 MB

We turned our happiness meters to 100 for our favorite day: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the science of gut training. The stomach needs to be trained in a methodical way just like the aerobic system, but people rarely talk about how much this part of training theory plays a role in endurance. We discuss the mechanisms, studies, and considerations, ending with 4 tips to improve your performance and health. Your gut is beautifully unique and important! No matter what the pre...

149. The Art and Science of Strides, High Carbohydrate Intake Principles, and Hormonal Tracking!

April 11, 2023 16:57 - 1 hour - 75 MB

The most exciting time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the trend of increasing carbohydrate intake during activity, sometimes to extreme levels around 120 grams per hour (480 calories!). We review some of the science of how glycogen levels relate to fatigue processes, along with GI considerations and our own personal experiences. Is it the next frontier of fueling, or a passing fad that will cause more DNFs than breakthroughs? The jury is out, but the car...

148. Zone 2 Training Explained, The Importance of Iron, and Overcoming Fatigue!

April 04, 2023 14:32 - 1 hour - 77.5 MB

The most fun time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on Zone 2, focusing on what it is and how to find it for yourself. If you're anything like us, understanding the metabolic and aerobic physiology will explain so much about training theory, and you'll get way faster in the process. Zone 2 is like Hansel, it's so hot right now. We also talked about some nuances of iron intake, and how appropriate supplementation can CHANGE YOUR LIFE. Did we give a multivitamin...

147. The Science of Overload Training, High-Carb Fueling, and New Caffeine Study!

March 28, 2023 17:43 - 1 hour - 72.4 MB

We brought a jubilant energy to this episode, countering a lack of sleep with a surplus of caffeinated gels! The main training topic was on overload training blocks, which consist consist of volume and/or intensity increases that last anywhere from a couple days to multiple weeks. We review some fascinating studies indicating that overloads may spur breakthroughs, but can also lead to disaster. How do you thread that needle? That's where the science meets art, and where things get REALLY FUN...

146. Barkley Marathons, 4 Training Principles for Peak Performance, and Shoe Reviews!

March 21, 2023 17:22 - 1 hour - 74.4 MB

This episode was full of Spring joy! The main training topic was on 4 key principles as athletes transition from winter training, which apply anytime an athlete is pursuing peak performance. The primary physiological discussions: how increased climbing affects adaptation and fatigue, heat acclimation and fitness benefits, sustainable strength work, and dialing into effort instead of metrics. Lots of fun studies in that discussion, plus plenty of semi-related digressions. You know, the usual!...

145. Joe Gray Interview! G.O.A.T. Mountain Runner on his Life and Journey!

March 14, 2023 14:46 - 1 hour - 64.5 MB

It was such a joy to talk to one of our heroes, Joe Gray! Over his legendary career, Joe has won 22 US National Championships across mountain running, trail running, and cross country. Plus 9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! He is one of the best mountain runners of all time, with a legacy of sustained dominance that might never be matched. We have gotten to know Joe over the years at races, and he always takes his time to uplift young athletes, including us when we started out. He is an inspiration on ...

144. Threshold Training Explained, New Studies on Supershoes, and HILL BEASTS!

March 07, 2023 18:07 - 1 hour - 78.4 MB

This episode got down and dirty with the most fun topics! The main training topic was on a new narrative review study describing the evolution of training theory, and why different approaches have converged on the benefits of lower-intensity training with relatively high doses of moderate threshold running, plus VO2-style speed in small doses. Figure 3 from that study is our love language, and we can't wait to tell you about it! We next discuss the implications of that approach for athletes ...

143. Lauren Fleshman Interview! Best-Selling Author, Great Athlete/Coach, Best Human!

February 28, 2023 15:10 - 1 hour - 64.4 MB

We had SO MUCH FUN talking to Lauren Fleshman! Her book "Good For A Girl" just debuted as a New York Times Bestseller, and we think it's one of the best books ever written. The book is part-memoir, part-manifesto, fearlessly confronting cultural problems in running and beyond, while also being a beautiful and funny reflection on her life journey. In this interview, we talked about how we can change the incentive structures in athletics to put health (and longer-term performance) at the foref...

142. Double Threshold Workouts, Black Canyon 100k Recap, and Blood Tests!

February 21, 2023 18:10 - 1 hour - 73.6 MB

This week's episode is jam-packed with happiness and fun! The main training topic was on 2 workouts that could have outsized benefits for lactate clearance and performance at every distance. The first workout is SO HOT right now: double thresholds, popularized by Norwegian training systems. The second is not quite as hot, but no less fun: post-interval moderate running. These sessions are on the cutting-edge of training theory, mixing a little bit of science with a solid serving of magic! We...

141. Why Athletes Are Running So Fast, Eating Before Running, and 10 Questions on Relationships and Love!

February 14, 2023 14:51 - 1 hour - 78.8 MB

This week's VERY SPECIAL episode was a pure celebration! We didn't want to stop recording, so there are a few more minutes of fun. The main training topic was an exploration of why athletes are getting faster at every distance. Our theories involve converging training approaches, feedback processes from shoe technology, and an emphasis on adequate fueling. What does the future hold? It's incredibly exciting! We also talked about practical recommendations for eating before running, starting i...

140. Kara Goucher Interview! Olympian and Life Boss on Vulnerability and Strength!

February 07, 2023 13:58 - 1 hour - 63.1 MB

We had such a life-affirming interview with one of our all-time heroes, Kara Goucher! Kara became famous as one of the best runners in the world, winning 3 national championships in college, a silver medal in the 10k at the World Championships, and making 2 Olympic teams. But the running accolades are just the start of her journey. Kara embraces the whole community, persevering through her own adversity to uplift and inspire others. She co-hosts the "Nobody Asked Us" podcast with Des Linden,...

139. Using Heart Rate Data, Improving Hemoglobin Mass, and SHOE NEWS!

January 31, 2023 16:13 - 1 hour - 73.3 MB

This week's episode was such a fun romp! The main training topic involved the often-overlooked variable of hemoglobin mass, and how optimizing hemoglobin levels for your individual genetics could help you bring out your inner aerobic monster. Important considerations: training intensity/stress, nutrition, iron intake, and oxygen stress like altitude... plus some wild new science on how year-round heat exposure may help. We also had a follow-up based on listener questions about how we like at...

138. How To Set Heart Rate Zones, Eating Before and After Runs, and CARB LOVE!

January 24, 2023 17:07 - 1 hour - 71.1 MB

This week’s episode was a total joy ride! The main training topic involved how underperformance is linked with reduced adaptation rates, with possible connections to endocrine system responses. That has major implications for how we approach training and life stress, plus eating before and after runs! We also talked about how to approximate heart rate zones with a small amount of data. You’ll never have to guess again! Other topics: hamstring strengthening, uncertainty and fear (through the ...

137. Heart Rate Tips, WILD Science on Microbiome and Motivation, and Enhancing Adaptations!

January 17, 2023 14:16 - 1 hour - 70.6 MB

This week's episode was such a joyful treat! The main training topic involved understanding training intensity in the context of heart rate drift, where the heart rate rises across an activity. That's especially important for improving aerobic threshold over time, a key to performance at all distances! We also talked about our new FAVORITE STUDY OF ALL TIME, on how the microbiome may influence motivation via dopamine levels in the brain. It's a mouse study that could have profound implicatio...

136. The Art and Science of Easy Running, Bandera 100k Recap, and Core Values!

January 10, 2023 16:28 - 1 hour - 71.7 MB

This episode was such a joyous (and loving) way to kick off 2023! The main training topic addressed one of the toughest and most important questions for all endurance training: what does "easy" actually mean in practice? The answer is nuanced, diving into athlete background, physiology, and goals. Athletes who figure out how to live in that uncertain space can get SO MUCH FASTER, and have more fun in the process. We also talked about a story showing the beauty of sports, featuring profession...

135. Amelia Boone Interview! Learning to Love Yourself and Crush Souls

January 03, 2023 15:33 - 1 hour - 63.3 MB

We had the most fun and inspiring interview with one of our best friends in the whole world, Amelia Boone! Amelia is a world-class athlete with 4 world championships in obstacle course racing, a recent win at the Spartan Trail 100k World Championships, and numerous other accomplishments. Those accolades led to magazine covers and a public profile at times when she was working through an internal journey that couldn't be portrayed in glossy photoshoots. So what did Amelia do? She opened up, s...

134. The Ultimate 2022 Top-10 List, Trail Runners v. Road Runners, and Training Races!

December 27, 2022 15:06 - 1 hour - 72 MB

The 2022 celebration episode brought all of the joy! We started with a holiday recap, including a burst-pipe adventure and a VERY IMPORTANT digression about vibrators. This week's big training tip involves a stunning study on self-talk, showing downright bonkers results. Other topics: the ULTIMATE  top-10 list for 2022 (we promise that it is vaguely running related), our theory on using races as training throughout the year, the uncertain definition of "supercompensation," a new study on tra...

133. Improving Fatigue Resistance, Loving Pressure, and Endocrine System Training!

December 20, 2022 15:06 - 1 hour - 73.9 MB

This episode brought the science and the FUN! We started with an overview of studies on penalty kicks, leading to a broader discussion on managing pressure over time in sports and life. It's all about shooting those shots, with openness and vulnerability! This week's big training tip is on encouraging adaptation through a training framework that considers the endocrine system. It's important for running and for the bedroom! Other topics: a public service announcement about the worst type of ...

132. Alex Honnold Interview! One of the Best Athletes Ever Talks Training and Life

December 13, 2022 16:51 - 1 hour - 78.2 MB

We had a fantastic, life-changing interview with one of our heroes, Alex Honnold! You probably know Alex from the movie Free Solo, which documented his climb of El Capitan in Yosemite, possibly the most historic athletic achievement ever. But did you know that Alex is also a runner, recently completing a 50k, with plans for more? It was SO FREAKING FUN to pick his brain on climbing and running training. We asked some smart questions and some dumb ones, as is our nature. But the training dis...

131. Uphill v. Downhill Pacing, Barefoot Running Benefits (Seriously), and Toughness!

December 06, 2022 15:11 - 1 hour - 71.9 MB

This episode had it all, with some of the most fun training and life topics! We kicked it off with a training discussion that could improve your form and strength FOREVER... and it involves barefoot running. We are not ashamed to speak our barefoot running truth! The main training discussion is on a new study looking at 16,518 race results to determine whether uphill or downhill splits are the most important for race performance. The results may shock you! Other topics: 5 pieces of running n...

130. World Champ Training Tips, Why Strides Work, and Cross Training Science!

November 29, 2022 14:51 - 1 hour - 69 MB

This episode was a total treat, getting to talk about some of the best topics! We started with the ONE FORM TIP THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE... maybe. It involves your glutes, so that has to be good. The main discussion is on 5 takeaways from World Champ Adam Peterman's training that can apply to all athletes, including how to balance intensity and using cross training strategically. Other topics: rejecting cynicism, a cellular-level explanation for why strides work, how the principles may app...

129. Adam Peterman Interview! Western States 100 Winner and World Champ on Life, Training, and Kindness

November 22, 2022 15:39 - 1 hour - 67.3 MB

We got to have a joyous, wide-ranging interview with the athlete who has quietly had one of the greatest running seasons ever, Adam Peterman! He is so kind, funny, and gracious, and we can't wait for you to get to know him in a deeper way during this episode. Adam's last year of racing has been mind-blowing, with wins at the JFK 50 Miler, Chuckanut 50k, Canyons 100k, Western States 100, and the World Championships. We discuss the training and long-term trajectory that led to his legendary s...

128. Importance of "Moderate" Running, Family Adventures, and Love and Inclusion in Sports!

November 15, 2022 15:17 - 1 hour - 73.6 MB

It's the ultimate celebration episode, full of fun training and life talk! We started with a joyful reflection about navigating through the dark forests in life, and how the path that starts out broken and sad can evolve in ways you never imagine (like with a FREAKING BABY). Then we hit on a bunch of running and life topics: why steady/moderate running is often overlooked in training plans, how to execute moderate running in a base period and all year, Adam PeterGOD winning the World Champio...

127. Weekly Mileage, 8 Courtney Dauwalter Training Takeaways, and Overcoming Low Motivation!

November 08, 2022 16:51 - 1 hour - 63.8 MB

Today's episode is such a fun discussion of cool training ideas, mental health rollercoasters, and life swerves! The main discussion is on 8 takeaways from Courtney Dauwalter's training to become the best in the world, collected from our interview with her and every other source we could get our hands on. We provide an analysis of weekly mileage (and how that will vary for athletes with different stress limitations), controlled long runs and workouts, strength routines, tapers, and much more...

126. Norwegian Training Breakdown! The Approach Taking Over the Endurance World

November 01, 2022 16:15 - 1 hour - 73.5 MB

This episode explores the science and theory behind one of the most exciting training approaches in the world! Some athletes from Norway are using variations of intensity-controlled threshold training, double-workouts, and focused specific work to great success on the international stage. While the specifics of the Norwegian approach to endurance training may not apply to everyone, the principles are incredibly important to all endurance performance. Keep easy days easy (mostly). Develop spe...

125. How To Build Aerobic Base All Year, Speed Development, and 5 Debates About Gear!

October 25, 2022 13:22 - 1 hour - 70 MB

We considered an ABBB tattoo ("Always Be Base Building") before a joyous episode on the importance of aerobic reinforcement, debates about gear choices, and existential questions about running! The main topics: the difference between offseason and base-building, why aerobic base needs to be a year-round focus, how to include speed development both before and during base periods, Alex Honnold's adventures in ultrarunning, dealing with burnout in running and life, the perils of productivity, i...

124. Wild Taper Science, Our Big Nutrition Rule, and 6 Racing Lessons!

October 18, 2022 14:13 - 1 hour - 70 MB

We ate a pint of snickerdoodle ice cream to prepare for a fun episode on tapering, racing, and fueling! The main topics: wild taper approaches from elite athletes involving very long runs relatively close to race day, why tapers vary and what that might mean for your next race, muscle fiber typology during training and detraining, a deep conversation on nutrition and why our message is to eat food that you love, celebrating food and clapping back on bad food messages in athletics, a grab-bag...

123. Courtney Dauwalter Interview! The Legend Talks Training, Life, and Hallucinations

October 11, 2022 13:58 - 1 hour - 58.4 MB

We got to interview the brilliant, kind, and HILARIOUS Courtney Dauwalter! Courtney has won UTMB twice, the Hardrock 100, the Western States 100, and established herself as an absolute force of nature that transcends running. In this episode, we dug deep on her training theory, from weekly mileage to workouts to rest days. But even more fun was a deep conversation about life and motivation. This episode has it all: physiology, training theory, ice cream favors, hallucinations, and much more!...

122. Marathon Principles, 4 Eliud Kipchoge Training Reactions, and Process-Focus Science!

October 04, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 77.1 MB

We got VERY EXCITED about enchiladas before an invigorating episode on training and intrinsic motivation! The main topics: 3 marathon training principles that apply to all endurance runners, the magic of long runs that build aerobic lipidic power, 4 follow-up discussions about Eliud Kipchoge's training before setting the world record, recent studies on why process-motivation supports well-being and performance, a grab-bag of 7 recommendations for training and life fun, how to use cross-train...

121. Eliud Kipchoge's Marathon Training, Running as a Power Sport, and Aging Superpowers!

September 27, 2022 15:00 - 1 hour - 75.9 MB

We listened to some very, VERY fun audio recordings before a joyous episode on growth and training theory! The main discussion is on Eliud Kipchoge's training, using a mix of sources to come up with 6 lessons for everyone. Zone 1 easy running, controlled workouts around 80% capacity, high (but not wild) volume, long runs with tempo, a growth lifestyle, and so much more! We also chatted about recent marathon breakthroughs for 40+ athletes, and the exciting implications for growth with age in ...

120. Long Run Theories, 10 Kilian Training Reactions, and Fasted Running Thoughts!

September 20, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 78.3 MB

We embraced the pizza underwear process before having such a fun episode with lots of training and life topics! The big training discussion revolved around 10 reactions to the approach that Kilian Jornet used to become the GOAT. Get ready for a buffet of the hottest training takes on: doubles, the theory of long runs and why they don't need to be too long, the complexity of fasted training, Zone 1 work, tapers, minimal dose strength training, hill/flat combination workouts, focused base-buil...

119. Kilian Jornet Interview! The GOAT Discusses Life and Training

September 13, 2022 15:00 - 1 hour - 61.2 MB

In one of the most exciting moments of our lives, we sat down with Kilian Jornet, aka the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. Kilian is the winner of almost every major race around the world, most recently UTMB and the Hardrock 100 just four weeks apart. He's also a dad of two and a founder of shoe company NNormal, bringing a process-focus to his life on and off the trails. In the episode, we talk about the dynamics of racing UTMB, how he trained for his dominant 2022, take a deep dive into the physiology...

118. Kilian Jornet's UTMB Training Data, Heart Rate Zones, and Self-Worth in Sports!

September 06, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 74.1 MB

We are coming to you with HEALTHY HEART SWAG to talk about Kilian Jornet's training snapshot leading up to his course record at UTMB, training intensity zones and what they mean, how to think about heart rate principles even if you don't use a heart rate monitor, Nico Young's amazing strength, the connection between emotional pain and physical pain, professional athlete contracts, body love, and hill training. Plus, we answer an amazing question on disentangling physical performance from sel...

117. UTMB Race Thoughts, Kilian Jornet is the GOAT, and Iron Intake For Athletes!

August 30, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 70.9 MB

We got naked in a creek before talking about 9 thoughts from the UTMB races, Kilian Jornet's historic summer and how unthinkably incredible he is, the importance of understanding iron intake for athletes, a checklist to address fatigue, the Manti Te'o documentary and the power of forgiveness, follow-ups to the Clare Gallagher interview, and the worst doping excuse we have ever heard. We have so much fun with these episodes, thank you for listening and giving us an excuse to have research-driv...

116. Clare Gallagher Interview! Leadville 100 Winner and Earth-Raging Superhero

August 23, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 72.3 MB

It's our first interview ever, with our favorite human and athlete in the world! Clare Gallagher won the 2022 Leadville 100 Miler in the 5th-fastest time ever just 36 hours before we recorded the interview. A historic 100 mile win and a 75-minute podcast episode are both equal feats of endurance in our eyes. Clare is a running legend, with wins at Western States, Leadville, CCC, Black Canyon 100k, and the Way Too Cool 50k, all by age 30. But even more importantly, she is a brilliant and worl...

Bonus Training Q+A Episode! Stride Duration, Weekly Structure, Doubles, VO2 Complications!

August 19, 2022 20:27 - 40 minutes - 37.3 MB

Surprise bonus episode! On Patreon, we are doing weekly episodes where we answer (mostly) training questions from subscribers, and we wanted to release this week's to everyone to say THANK YOU ALL. We said the word "sexy" way too many times... or just the right number of times.  Topics this week: the "why" behind different stride lengths (i.e. 20 seconds versus 30 seconds), training week structure and ensuring the right intensity distribution within context of workouts, cross training worko...

115. UTMB Race Preview, The Science of Salt Intake, and Performance Enhancement from Cooling!

August 16, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 79.8 MB

We conquered the 7-year itch before talking about how we are constantly testing new interventions (ankle weight warm-ups?!), electrolyte consumption during exercise, the interesting offset between literature and practice with salt intake, the science of cooling interventions and how they can lead to 5%+ performance improvements even in temperate conditions, thoughts about the 2022 UTMB races, our extremely biased predictions with a heavy North American focus, and running's impact on longevit...

114. VO2 Max Power Training, Quirks of Evolutionary Biology, and Start-Up Ideas!

August 09, 2022 18:00 - 1 hour - 62.9 MB

We did it all for the nookie before talking about the evolution of our training theory about output at VO2 max being a key indicator of aging and long-term performance in athletes, why mechanical power output is often under-appreciated in running training, the weird science of glucose tolerance tests, wonderful news out of Kansas, the predictable disaster of Woodstock '99, the multiple uses of percussive massage tools, why hip labrums are the worst, and how MRI results can be misleading in s...

113. How To Predict Training Responses, Women Rocking Sports, and Fear and Love!

August 02, 2022 19:00 - 1 hour - 77.8 MB

We debated the performance enhancing benefits of potato chips before talking about the importance of understanding load capacity in training and life, why competitive exercise might have some darker mental consequences for some people, how love and fear are intertwined for better and for worse, the foods of the week, 3 ways to anticipate responses to training, the inspiring story of rockstar scientist Jennifer Doudna, the Women's Tour de France, and how women's sports are taking over the wor...

112. Fun With Physiology and 8 Performance Science Takeaways from the Tour de France!

July 26, 2022 18:56 - 1 hour - 85.2 MB

We did bathroom mirror glute squeezes before talking about fun ways to understand exercise physiology terms, why pro cycling is the world's greatest endurance experiment (even for runners), 8 performance science takeaways from the Tour de France, fears about doping in cycling (and other sports), book recommendations (Broken Horses and Win At All Costs), a hot take about PM running, cellulite and why your body is perfect, and Brandi Carlile's song "The Joke" and what it means to us. Our longe...

111. Hardrock 100 Miler, World Track Champs, and Intergalactic Reflections!

July 19, 2022 19:03 - 1 hour - 77.1 MB

We got really, really excited by astronomy before talking about the historic performances at the Hardrock 100 Miler, physiology that people might not think about enough in high-altitude racing, stories from the World Championships, Devon Allen's infuriating DQ due to a false start, how to think about training for long-term growth, the TV show "The Bear," what we need to do to become the #1 podcast episode in Britain, and reflections spurred by the first James Webb Telescope photos. Things ge...

110. Our Favorite Workouts, How The Sport Is Changing, and Feelings as Data!

July 12, 2022 19:00 - 1 hour - 72.1 MB

We put on some sexy white spandex shorts before talking about the different workouts we'd recommend if an athlete could only do one, our favorite sessions and the rationale for different workout types (tempo, long intervals, short intervals, and hills), whether we'll ever understand what cryptocurrency actually is, the incredible movie Everything Everywhere All At Once, why we are skeptical about vegetables, reflections from watching Unbreakable for the first time, how the sport is changing ...

109. Mount Marathon, Gel Reviews, US Mountain Champs, Shoe Review Update!

July 05, 2022 21:01 - 1 hour - 78.5 MB

We overcame an acute case of over-stoke syndrome before talking about the wildest race in the world, how Mount Marathon breaks algorithms and ankles, the incredible stories of Tabor and Eli Hemming, a recap of the US Mountain Championships, how to think about "pain" in the context of training, a full review of 9 different energy gels (prepare for some spicy hot takes), shoe review updates on the most buzz-generating models of the summer, the complex science of functional overreaching, and Ad...

108. Western States Recap Celebration! Plus Cooling Techniques and Media Review

June 28, 2022 20:26 - 1 hour - 69.8 MB

We took some hardcore grass naps before talking about 13 things we learned at the Western States 100 Miler! That includes the booming media coverage, Adam Peterman becoming a PeterGOD, theories for why the times are so fast, and much more. Plus we do some deeper dives into the exciting world of mid-event cooling techniques (and how we think that will drive performance changes even in temperate races), how speed is so important for long races, the exciting and evolving landscape of running, a...