Sexuality, Happiness and being true to yourself #13

Title: Sexuality, happiness and being true to yourself #13

Tagline “I dont want it to define me. I don’t think anyone should let it define them in life. I don’t want it to be oh yeah Nick Hall who’s gay” ...

Nick Hall, is a successful individual who has had a very colourful career which has seen him start and sell businesses whilst finding his own true happiness.

Overcoming and understanding himself growing up, Nick talks about his sexuality and how he embraced that and found true happiness in his life.

A fascinating individual, who sees the world in a unique and great way! A keen eye for property too, Nick has also made his own homes under the hammer renovations along with helping me personally in my own property ventures.

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welcome to an episode of find your voice

a movement led by yours truly

Aren do a guy who has overcome

crippling anxiety adversity and

difficulty like so many of you in life

whose main goal now is to help you

combat your excuses take control of your

life write your own story and most

importantly find your voice so now

without further ado I welcome the host

of the show himself mr. Aren do the

host of this show so I am extremely

excited to bring my guest onto the show

today because it's somebody who's going

to be sharing a very very sensitive

subject and it's a subject that's going

to relate to many people out there

whether you're experiencing it yourself

or whether it's one of your friends or

family now the beautiful thing is not

just the story and the person behind the

story who is a fascinating character and

doing incredible things in the world

and really kind of found his own voice I

suppose it's how actually met him now I

am a firm believer in trying to find

positives in every situation that you're

in because it's so easy to often

exaggerate the problems and the

obstacles that were going through and

I'd say in my career as a property

investor my probably most stressful 2 or

3 months was when I met this individual

and the only silver lining I had within

those two or three months was my

relationship with this individual now

Nick

managed to help me sell my nightmare

house and he did it with brilliant

customer service to the point that we

actually built a rapport and Nick

reached out recently and we kind of had

conversations back and forth and I just

thought his story is fantastic it's also

different to any of the other stories

that we've had on this show so hopefully

you guys resonate with it

I am confident you're gonna find he's

honesty and he's courage commendable so

I'm gonna leave it there and we're gonna

jump straight into this episode I find

your voice okay so I'd just like to

welcome Nick to the show today so thank

you Nick for coming on

and sharing your story how are you doing

today I'm great

thanks for having me Irene it's an

absolute honor to echo and support you

with this

you're very welcome thank you as well so

I think it's important before we start

to obviously give the listeners a little

bit of insight in relation to who dig

hole is so if you wouldn't mind if you

could just kind of give the listeners

and myself actually a little bit about

yourself how you progress through life

and kind of ended up where you are today

yeah of course

so when terms of who I am what I do so

background I suppose starting from sort

of where I grew up so I've grown up in

sort of a relatively middle-class

environment in a in a village so to say

on the edge of stoke-on-trent so just

into the stuffs Moreland's

m and most recently I'm working in

telecoms that are do some bits of

business on the side so I'll go back and

talk to you about what I've done in

detail to get me from there to where I

am today so the sort of environment that

I grew up in I would say is very

traditional so here you you standard

Church of England school the lads play

football and the girls play netball and

I I didn't do either of those so I

didn't fit in but I didn't conform to

their to the norm so to say and then

after school and I came out with

relatively I would say a ver Ajay mean I

passed all my subjects at GCSE level

grade C or above progressed onto to

college straight after school and then

absolutely hated it again just didn't

feel like I fitted in so I took a year

out and when it did some hard work for

you and worked in a supermarket and quit

and then produce Department lumbering

sacks of potatoes around and I actually

talking about the value of the pound

yeah

actually worked with money in the real

world so quite quickly realized that I

wanted to go

to education and from there went in

study Business Studies a level and then

went on to university em that didn't

actually move away when I went to

university state local at staffs

probably didn't have the confidence to

to go and live outside of the area and

then after University I got offered I

did the Graduate scheme and I was still

working for Maury supermarkets at the

time I did their grad scheme and got

offered a role at their HQ in Bradford

and didn't go for it cuz he didn't pay

enough money basically and then I got

offered a job locally working for

phones4u which is owned by their John

Caldwell though I'm sure everyone in

business net was a billionaire now went

into work for this organization and

there was something just magical about

the culture I went in as a trainee

salesperson and they they taught me

everything I know about sales and I've

sort of progressed through telecoms in

the sales environment done various roles

sales management head of sales

got extremely stressed doing the head of

sales were all under 30 and decided that

I wanted to take a bit of a step back

and then I'm now working in one of the

biggest telecom providers in the UK and

I'm doing a less less senior role buddy

it sort of gives me the flexibility to

do stuff outside I could work as well

and I suppose that's coming on to what I

also do as well and outside of work I'm

I'm really passionate about property

stems from probably the first house that

I bought where the position that I was

in was the idea I was forced it didn't

have the money to to buy a decent

property so out to buy something that

was rundown and they've got the Bob bug

for sort of development renovation from

their doing I've done various properties

now to the point where I am where am I

live in and in a in a relatively decent

house they want a big

probably doing about 5 refurbishments

and renovations that have enabled me to

live in the property that I live in now

on a bill up a nice little equity part

as well last year for the last year or

two I had an estate agents business as

well I started up on the side and the

aim with that was to to hopefully get

out of than the nine-to-five job that

I'm doing and again learned a massive

lesson from that because I realized how

hard you actually have to work to where

to win in your own business absolutely

yeah and to be honest it wasn't easy and

it wasn't going to be easy and I wasn't

gonna become a millionaire any time soon

or even overnight or any time in the

next few years from that so I had an

opportunity to sell the business which

it did do at the end of last year and

have come become career focused again

this year I'm not going to say it's

gonna be a real long term strategy but

I've just taken on a new role that gives

me something to really get my teeth into

and then the property thing they'll

always bubble along the side and

personal that's interesting because then

it was actually property where where you

and I actually met and I could tell your

sales experience obviously came in

because you were able to sell what I

consider my nightmare house which I

couldn't get rid of and and you sold it

pretty quickly because mate that has

caused me more stress than anything and

in relation to your renovations as well

for anyone that's on Facebook I've seen

some of your your renovations your

kitchens especially and then they look

absolutely fab so you've obviously got a

knack for it there something I wish I

had when I first started renovating

myself and I just want to touch on

something so you said you always kind of

never thought you could be fitted in and

you mentioned the whole zero typical

boys play football the girls play

netball and then later on you touch the

game that you didn't have the confidence

to perhaps maybe move out of your

university is there a particular reason

in relation to that or was it just like

anxiety I mean what was

what was that feeling where you're

saying you didn't feel you fitted in

because I'm pretty sure there's people

listening to this now you might have had

that same situation yeah I mean looking

back now I was because I'm gay and I

obviously always knew that there was

something different about me but I

wasn't him

experienced mature I suppose they're the

best way he's supportive and I wasn't

experienced or mature enough to

understand what that meant for me so I

always do that I mean don't get me wrong

I don't have not gone through life being

an outcast or anything like what I have

those environments always just sort of

felt like I didn't feel like a hundred

percent you know why okay just felt

different I supposed yeah mmm okay

that's interesting I mean if you

wouldn't mind if I just asked a little

bit about that yeah cause I'm certain

there's thousands of people out there

who probably won't be the same situation

when you're thinking why am i feeling

different to perhaps what people would

consider the general consensus what

advice would you give to somebody like

that I mean was it something that you

were able to kind of come out with

straight away or is it something that

you kind of held in there I think you

are and don't get me wrong I do even in

from our generation to today I do

believe times have changed a little bit

but there's always a stereotype of which

you are forced to live by or expected to

live by I won't say forced I'll say

expected to live by yeah and I think

that mentality comes to the front even

more sevens in sort of small village

environment something in the area that I

grew up in it was a case of as I said

the boys play football the girls play

netball and this kind of if you didn't

do either you a bit weird you are or

you're not conforming to the norm so I

think if I'm if there's anybody who's in

that position and you feel like you

don't fit in it's a bit cliche but don't

be afraid to be different because

some people are born to stand out and

you need to sort of you need to

recognize that and stand up to it and do

the things that give you the confidence

to do that I love that I think I think

you just hit great note there don't be

afraid to be different because even for

myself from my experience you grow up

always trying to fit in it's kind of

like because you want to be part of the

maybe the popular gang were just where

it's safe I suppose because nobody wants

to get bullied everyone wants to have

relationships yeah I find myself now as

an adult trying almost not to fit in in

terms of bringing my own authenticity to

the marketplace to my branding and

everything else so it's just funny how

the world works and I think I'm not sure

if you I can you mentioned like at that

age your intelligence as a child and

stuff is probably different when you

grow up and you realize what's actually

important here and the most important

thing for me and I'm sure you probably

agree to some extent is how we view

ourselves I think that's the most

important thing yeah 100% and that age

you don't want to be picked out of the

crowd and at the point that we a minute

live in life now it's almost that we

don't necessarily want to stand out but

I feel myself that it's good to be

different and to have your own personal

brand and to be true to yourself who you

are then that that gives you a sense of

fulfillment

I suppose is the best way to put it I

think I think you're right maybe it

gives you authentically as well in the

world where everyone's trying to but

this persona of who they are or the day

that they live in somebody who's just

refreshingly themselves every single day

whether it's good bad or whatever it is

I just find that I just find that nice

and I think the world would benefit more

from people just not trying to put a

mask on because I don't know about you

but I find it hard enough just trying to

manage my own life rather than trying to

be somebody else for the public it's

it's just an energy drain so no I

appreciate that can I just ask one more

question on that if you wouldn't mind

yeah yeah so you've come from a small

village now I'm using my stereotypical

background as well so I'm I'm Indian and

we come from a community where everyone

knows everyone's business so when you do

something that it

doesn't gold with the norm so for

example if I use myself I got married

out of religion now I'm not a religious

person and anyone that knows me knows I

don't really follow religion so when I

did that it was it was a massive massive

thing again it was difficult I had

sleepless nights before and again it was

more about what are people going to

think and what is going to bring to my

family did you ever experience any sort

of controversy or adversity in relation

to you perhaps coming out or was your

family and your community very

supportive of yourself yeah I think the

worst part by far is the fear of coming

out than the actual coming out itself

yeah because for me I didn't really have

to come out I didn't have to stand on a

platform and announce it and I didn't

feel that that was the right way for me

to do it anyway that just it that didn't

happen for me it happened naturally okay

I came to a point in my life where I was

comfortable 100% comfortable with who I

am and I had the confidence to be myself

and what that meant was it some people

knew to be honest and and some people

didn't know I lost friends over it

people just stopped talking to me I

think and it genuinely sat here today it

doesn't hurt me one bit because I know

that it was just meant to be yeah

absolutely and again I just want to

implore anyone who is listening who may

be going through a situation whether it

is about this sexuality or whether it is

about anything else whether you consider

yourself different to really kind of I

suppose Jesus said than done as an adult

but really try and overcome that fear

because you touched on something that

the fear of it is actually worse than

the actual experience itself and I've

had to overcome and do things that I've

always been afraid of prior to the

actual decision and a bit like what you

just said there's as soon as you make

that decision it's actually not as bad

as you'd initially thought so I would

always tell people if they can you know

maybe adopt a mount

robbins approach which is kind of like

she counts backwards from five four

three two one and then all of a sudden

beam whatever's in

that she wants to say she says it I

think life's too short for us to kind of

live in fear of judgment and other

things I'm not sure if you agree with

that 100% and I think the in terms of

the people out there who might be

feeling like I genuinely would be happy

to speak to anyone who who feels that

they're in that situation and and talked

to them about my experience in more

detail if it helps them sort of progress

towards where they want to be I'll be

more than happy to do that that's

fantastic

I'm sure they'll appreciate that and

obviously at the end of the show we'll

put all your show notes and how they can

contact you so prepare yourself mate

hopefully if the episode goes well

you're gonna get an influence of the

direct messages but no I think somebody

who's been through something that

they'll just be able to give so much

better advice rather than just picking

up a book or reading a post online so

thank you for your handout yeah and it

is difficult because if you're in a

position where you are afraid of of

admitting something to the outside world

then some people will challenge you on

it sometimes and they will offer to talk

to you about it you've got to be ready

to talk yourself so if ever if ever

somebody needs that yeah then I'd be

more than happy to do that thank you

thank you Nick brilliant okay so I want

to just switch the conversation just

ever so slightly in relation to your

work and stuff so you've you've mastered

homes under the hammer a lot better than

I have and you've got yourself some

sales experience you're now in the new

role which you're thriving off I'm just

curious to know and I'm always

fascinated by people who are doing

different things or people who I

consider successful and I've considered

success as a sort of you doing what you

want to do for yourself and it's

basically you're making your own

decisions in terms of moving forward and

progressing on a daily basis so if you

could just kind of give us a day in the

life of Nicole from say for instance the

moment you wake up if you've got any

particular habits or traits that you

think maybe could help other people if

they wanted to kind of replicate your

success up until now

yeah I mean I definitely don't consider

myself hugely successful and it's an

honour for you to even put me in that

bracket

just quite normal to be honest okay but

I mean I'm definitely an early riser I'm

somebody who likes to get up early I

love to see the Sun Rise morning and not

so much in the summer when it's really

rising it hot this time of year when the

sun's rising and just before 7:00 a.m.

it's nice to just get up and go and sit

in my kitchen and I've got some great

views and we catch the Sun eise's and

just sit and have a cup of coffee and

just reflect at that time in the morning

and whether it be just catching up on

the news doing some banking at any sort

of admin that's gonna give me a great

spot today I really do enjoy sort of

having that foundation to the day to be

honest after that point I feel like I

should be exercising and I'm moved house

last August and I've moved probably

about 20 miles away from where you used

to live and I'm in a village which is

pretty much in the middle of nowhere

right the nearest gym is 14 miles away

so I'm struggling to find that

motivation to exercise at the moment

because I'm not near a gym I never can

actually go out and go and walk and run

and things like Apple with the with the

winter as it's been not the opportunity

to do that so a key thing for me that I

want to focus on in this year it is

exercise and fitting that back into my

routine because that would be great to

do that at that point and then in terms

of moving on from there I mean I

generally just would move into what is a

pretty normal working day to my day is

made up of meetings pretty much all over

the UK because to work for a

multinational business and I might be

working from home or I could be in

Edinburgh or London so I can have a day

that starts at 5:00 a.m. oh I've got to

go and catch a flight or train or I can

have a nice relaxed day where I'm

getting offered sort of the time that I

said and then sitting in just a night or

five from the kitchen table if it is

that I'm not actually working then

ideally for me every traveling okay a

lot of miles and the continent in the

turbulent yeah yeah yeah job yeah do you

listen to any audio balls or podcasts or

anything like that always it just

literally music on the road I'm a visual

person so for me I rather than I mean

I've I've always tried to read and I

just find it so difficult to put my not

put my time to sit and absorb a book so

I'm visual so for me I'm a documentary

sort of person okay I've watched

probably every documentary going on

Netflix on every topic possible so I

would if there's something that I'm

interested in I find it far easier to

watch a documentary on it rather than to

read a book on it okay that's

interesting I can't read myself to be

honest I use audio book for everything

similar to yourself

ie well I used to be on the road a lot

so for me it was kind of an opportunity

I supposed to kind of kill two birds

with one stone I'd always listen to

audiobooks I do need to get on the

Netflix documentaries I heard there's

some fascinating ones but I just wanna

quickly touch on something there so

you've got some traits there so the

whole reflection and the early rising

that's quite common amongst people who

are trying to do more in life there is

one thing I want to do a little

shameless plug on is the exercise bit so

I'm a massive massive advocate that we

should always prioritize our health

before everything and when I say how if

I don't just mean your physical house I

mean your mental health as well but yeah

you've said something there and this is

just my advice as a friend is the gym is

far away well mate if you go on my

youtube channel I have some videos which

will tell you how to work out from the

comfort of your own home so I want to

see you doing those I'm gonna see you in

star jumps in your next post yeah and as

I said make that a hundred percent is a

target of mine for 2019 and the mean

talking about mindset as well I find

setting personal towards a great way to

motivate myself I mean when I set up the

business that said at the beginning the

year target for me this years to set up

a business alongside work and estate

agents evolved from and then this this

is my target for this year to get back

to fitness again fantastic just in

relation to the business one have you

ever set up a business before or is that

you you set yourself a target and a boom

you just went out and figured it out yes

and literally do the estate agent are

set up from scratch I just came up with

the concept the Brandon sat down with a

graphic designer who bought it all to

lie for me but I came up with a concept

that was completely unique and then you

in the UK no other estate agent in the

country was doing it and that was for

the client to be able to choose the

estate agent board that sits outside the

property the color of it yeah and and

that was extremely successful and it was

a huge USP for the business and in a

market that is so saturated yeah exactly

saturated it was a USP and something

that stood me above the competition it

was something that had started online

started out the spare bedroom at my old

property and and grew it to a position

that it was a business that could be

sold on that's fascinating to me because

you're you'll meet many people and if

people just sit here today and think

about the times in the last seven days

but somebody's told them about a

business idea or they want to do this or

they want to become this and then

actually see whether they go and follow

that through it's very very slim that

those people do it so for me obviously

business my staff now I find it very

very difficult there's a lot there's a

lot of cogs to it and I think you

touched on it earlier that in terms of

making the same money that you're making

you notified there's a hell of a lot

more hard work involved so for you to be

able to do that on this side one it kind

of I always think if people have got an

excuse they haven't because if they

listen to you now you know you're

working full-time and you set yourself

up a successful business which I just

find that really inspiring and would you

have any tips for anyone is it just

literally google it because I would say

google it everything's on Google get out

there Network speak to people is that

kind of your best approach yeah a

hundred percent I mean definitely I

agree that everything's on Google now

you've just gotta go out I mean for me

there was something inside me telling me

that I needed to do to do something to

fulfill me over and above what I was

getting from my nine till five at the

time so I I am quite a visual person as

I've said so I sat and you my maps I was

like what are the potential ideas for a

business that the it could give me what

I want so I came up with the sort of

events business came up with the estate

agents I came up with a recruitment

business and everything just brought me

back to a state agency because of the

passion that I've got on the side

property property so from there I just I

went and so what I wanted to do is

understand what do you need to do to set

up a successful estate agent so the

first thing is I needed to get qualified

as an estate agent so I had to go and do

the qualifications alongside work set

myself up as a director of a limited

company and and just brought to life the

the concept that had come up with him

surround yourself with a successful team

and for me that was having a really good

graphic designer

bring all the concepts to life and then

the subcontractors who work for the

business as well so I was pride in

myself on photography particularly so I

went out and I found I found the best

photographer in the local area had to

pay more to do that but when there was a

buzz created about the business the

photography was one of the things that

people were talking about fantastic

that's brilliant I think there's a

blueprint they obviously for people who

may have something inside them which

makes them want to maybe go out there

and do a business and you just touched

on a point which is something that I

always tell everyone is surround

yourself with a successful team because

you can't do anything alone in this

world especially if you're trying to get

rid of your 9 to 5 so I always try and

do that I always try and I know it's a

cliche but I was try and surround myself

with people who are cleverer than me you

have done more than me because that way

it kind of forces me to grow it keeps me

accountable as well and at the same time

I'm learning as opposed to you kind of

be in the cleverest in the room a

hundred percent and the thing the thing

is it massively surround yourself by

people who motivate you to better the

position that you're in and just just

one point on what you were saying about

the successful team is having the

ability or the experience to to

recognize that team and to be able to

select the team as well because it's

easy to go out there

and for example get a photographer but

without understanding their background

in their experience and where they've

been successful it's difficult to know

whether to bring them into your team or

not

I think trades people is a perfect

example and what we experienced with you

on the property that I was like yeah

there's so many Cowboys out there and so

many people who are not performing as

they should do I think I think they're

all just kind of playing the small game

and so for me it's if I was a tradesman

and this is just my trail of thought is

if I'm gonna work with someone if worst

case scenario that the projects going a

little bit tits up which they sometimes

do and it could be of through no fault

of anybody's I would still try and

continue to over-deliver because then

you've got more chance of repeat

business and what I tend to see is

people will happily exploit people for a

quick dollar that that month or that

week just to kind of maybe pay for their

bills and so they can go drinking on the

weekend and then all of a sudden

somebody's losing out there whether it's

repeat business or whether it's the

customer or something and yeah and that

reputation so building a reputation

again is another key element of it

because if you go out and and you rip

someone off on day one you're never

gonna get to day 100 absolutely great

just like that not actually just be from

a shift gears a little bit I have

finally managed to find a good build and

a good trades team and I'm actually what

I've actually done is similar to you

don't let go of him may I haven't so

what I did is I set up a business and I

became business partners with him

because I was like listen I need to keep

you here one because I trust you in your

works fantastic you can do this side of

it what I do is I use my whole branding

and my project management experience to

kind of get the clients in so we kind of

work hand in hand but mate I've had to

get so many bad frogs but yeah I'm not

gonna let go now and in property that

that's the perfect mix it's great for

somebody like yourself who's got a huge

amount of experience and in marketing to

partner up with somebody who's got the

skills in the experience on the

technical side of it absolutely together

you've created that perfect team

absolutely I'm grateful now for where

I'm I suppose I'm so grateful for all

the lessons because if I hadn't have

gone through what I did I wouldn't be

where I am today at the same time I

wouldn't even be speaking to yourself so

you know

everything happens for a reason I'm a

firm believer of that exactly I mean if

I hadn't done what I'd done on the side

and you had done what you're doing we

would never have cross paths absolutely

made so I'm grateful for all my

experiences it's obvious now then so

you've had a very colorful life we lines

ups and downs and you've done quite a

bit actually a little bit like myself I

always think I've managed to cram so

much in so quickly so yeah you could

tell us of a recent adversity that

you've been through and then what's your

approach when you're up against an

obstacle how do you deal with it what

lessons have you learned from it yes so

in terms of adversity we've definitely

already taught sunny during this

conversation and and for me it is the

fact that I'm gay and that was a huge

point for me in my life and it's it's

the most amount of adversity I've ever

faced and I'll say that hands down and

so it's never easy for me to talk about

this but I genuinely believe that my

life didn't start to come together until

I admitted to myself who I really was

and after that point I found the friends

they were feel comfortable around and I

found a partner I progressed financially

and that for me was was the point in

life so now I've got over that I don't

feel as though there's any adversity or

if I do come across adversity it just

doesn't feel it doesn't feel like you've

kind of been treated I suppose the

biggest challenge of your life yeah

quinta percent of me exchanged when I

looked back because it's like looking

back at a different pace and then it was

some money I was trying to be someone

who I wasn't at the end of the day and

so I take responsibility for that but

genuinely I think that society does play

a part and that as well absolutely as

I've said we're supposed to act in a

certain way we're supposed to be a

certain type of person and I was made to

feel that being gay was wrong and it

made me feel like

of a person to be honest and it and

that's what drove me to not want to be

that person it's so sad isn't it how

society and I think it is it is a

society problem that we can discriminate

or prejudiced against certain types of

people or people who are different to

ourselves and make them feel so bad

because although you get groups and you

get cliques and stuff nobody's really

looking at the individual that you're

segregating and what the effect is

having to them and this is kind of

something I learned in my um when I went

back to study social workers and masters

because my four of my siblings come from

the care system I sin then be

discriminated against in terms of

they've come into our family we've tried

to put them in extracurricular

activities we tried to take it to

football games and stuff and when one's

got autism and then one's got learning

difficulties and one is a displaying the

level of intelligence that person should

display at that age according to the

school curriculum it's it's sad to see

them just get put to the side or brushed

off and it's it's something I don't

think the solution for right now but I

think if you can create more awareness

just just for people just to have a bit

of compassion I suppose for hope for

people and just think listen everyone's

trying to do the best that they can in

whatever moment they're they're in and

nobody wants to feel like an outcast

normally wants to feel different we're

all we've all got unique abilities

within ourselves and we're all all got

our own gift and I just wish the world

could just be a bit more sympathetic

towards each other to be honest 100

percent and I think talking about it is

is awareness in itself and I mean that

is something that I could carry with me

and let affect me mentally I just don't

I consider myself to be a strong person

mentally and I just choose to not let it

impact the rest of my life it's

something that happened and it's

something that will not affect me for

the future and I think choose to make it

a part of your strengths because what

you what you're going to do even just by

sharing the story which I'm very

grateful for you doing you're gonna

inspire and give other people the

courage that listen it's okay it's okay

in general I mean like Nick's doing fine

now there's millions

other people doing fine now and it's not

as bad as you probably think it is at

this at this point in time so yeah I

mean I I don't want it to define me in

life and I don't think anyone should let

it define them in life I want my life to

be defined by either a successful career

or a successful business I don't want it

to be oh yeah Nick Hall who's gay I want

it to be he's a great businessman or a

great person and I mean I would judge

you it's just myself just under I'm the

character in the person that you are

similar to myself I I don't want to be

judged as a particular thing it doesn't

define you that's that's that's probably

the right way of me yeah exactly thank

you so you've obviously then overcame

your biggest fear now and we've spoken

about you coming out and realizing that

you were gay and you you that's

something now you're you're very

comfortable with other than that what

would be your next biggest fear and it

could be anything it could be spiders it

could be snakes for what else kind of

scares you right now yeah something that

genuinely scares me is not being

financially secure later in life I think

that our generation are in a strange

position financially I mean our parents

generally have or will retire on

probably final salary pensions with a

decent state pension at a relatively

young age in terms of retirement to say

young innovative compiz our generation

we're going to need to work until were

70 we're going to have very very small

pensions in comparison that worries me

because I don't want to work until I'm

70 for a start and I don't want to live

on a hundred pounds a week so it's

something that scares me massively

but I use it to motivate me because for

me I want financial security because I

want to enjoy my life effectively that's

it yeah fair answer I think I think we

all need to need to be mindful of what

we're doing for the future which is one

of the reasons actually that I got into

property

to create that kind of wealth in the

future so everything I've done at least

in my first few years a property was

called wealth creation so I thought for

a rainy day I've got a portfolio of

properties that will keep me ticking

over and now obviously now I'm trying to

work on the whole cash flow element in

order to kind of live the life that

myself and my wife want to live so I

think that's a good point and you

actually just answered my next question

I was gonna ask you which was about

motivation and I'm always eager to see

what keeps people more of a motivation

for me it's kind of like I see it like a

hit of caffeine I think you have some

caffeine you're on a high for a bit and

then all of a sudden you can use it so

if we just alter that very slightly what

kind of drives you maybe a little bit

deeper like you what inspires you what

makes you do the things that you do on

the days but you don't feel like doing

them I think weekends or a good example

I mean it's easy to say what gets you

out of bed from Monday to Friday it's a

paycheck what gets me out of bed on a

weekend for me at the moment what's

getting me out of bed at the weekend is

working on this property that I'm

currently living in so I've got a list

of jobs as long as my arm there if I

don't get up on a Saturday morning and

do them then they're not going to happen

or I'm gonna have to pay trades people

to come in and do them so I'm enjoying

doing a bit of painting at weekends at

the moment obviously the motivation and

that is that that's going to invest in

this property and eventually will

increase its value so it's probably

financially motivated that's fantastic

yeah great answer mate okay so there

we've heard it the buzzer has just gone

off and we are now at the front part of

this show and this is a part where I put

Nick through his paces and I ask him as

many random questions as I can fit in

over the next 60 seconds so Nick are you

ready I think so you'll be fine mate

okay we're going to start in three two

one what is your favorite documentary

and at the moment the fire documentary

that I've just what

or Netflix about the fire festival

whatever one what did you regret this I

haven't eaten any breakfast yup the

ability to fly it or be invisible fly

definitely money or fame money your

biggest achievement today living in the

house that I live in after starting off

and asleep on to internment 2touchpos

your favorite food

chorong net picture youtube in that

place your number one goal this year to

get fit again favorite TV show ever can

I say film yeah but I'm gonna say film

and one that I watched for the day lion

would you rather know how you were died

or where you were going when definitely

love or money

well books or movies movie you could sit

with one person in the world for an hour

who would it be

Donald Trump what is this what is your

biggest addiction sugar your favorite

place in the world Vegas and finally if

you could have polished one thing in the

world what would it be terrorism

fantastic how did you find that

yeah good in relation to the fire one I

just find that so fascinating the way

the guy was the ultimate blogger the

thing is though is he could very easily

and pulled that off and he would you

know that case that he is that's so true

that's so true

ok so we're almost at the end this show

we just got a couple of more questions

left my next one's on reflection and we

all know hindsight's a wonderful thing

it teaches us so many things ie how we

can get to places quicker easier or less

heartache at the same time I'm also a

very very firm believer that the journey

teaches us so much and I've got a real

belief that everything happens for a

reason so what I want to know is if you

could go back in time to that one moment

where you really struggled and suffered

with adversity and just be able to

whisper something in your ear knowing

what you know now with all the lessons

life has taught you what would you tell

yourself we talked about quite a bit in

during the show and that's the fact that

I'm gaining obviously have been for a

long time so it would be a case of me

going back to the old me so today it

just did some reassurance until we even

almost give him a glimpse into the

future that utterly no one cares

probably do care

but no one really gives a shit no one

worthwhile kiss yeah mmm I love done

mate thank you thanks for sharing that

and suddenly we are now at the last

question and the last question are

always like to ask my guess is if in 150

years time science fails to save us all

and all that is left is a book and that

book is a book about Nick and it's about

everything that Nick's done or the

fascinating wonderful things I want to

know is in this book what would firstly

the title be and secondly what would be

summary at the back tell us about

yourself I suppose a great title would

be how to be true to yourself and the

blurb would be about discovering the

things that make you happy in life and

what makes you tick and and and living

those in in your daily life okay good

stuff so just before I close the show

what I want to do is give you a chance

to let the audience know where they can

reach you or where they can contact you

and obviously then that will give the

audience a chance to really maybe

connect with you whether it's in

relation to property or you as a person

or your business or sales or whatever is

really and hopefully if they're resonate

with it maybe you can potentially help

them in some way so what's the best

place is that people can find you I

would say Instagram is the best place to

get in touch with me because it's so

interactive so my Instagram account is

at Nick Hall underscore underscore but

I'll let you put it on absolutely I'll

put in the show notes as well yeah and

Facebook LinkedIn any of those or hey

I'm on LinkedIn as well

welcome to connect with me that's more

geared towards my 9 to 5 but of course

welcome to get in touch with me on that

okay and then Facebook and I keep pretty

private to be honest so if not at the

moment I've just got a family in front

on that that's fine that's fine not a

problem that's brilliant I just want to

say once again Nick thank you so much

for your time

for you to share this story as well I'm

sure it's gonna help many many people

it's certainly given me more insight

about yourself as well I mean we've

known each other for a while now and are

you a lot more so I just wanna say thank

you to yourself and to the listeners at

home thanks for listening yeah thanks

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