How to control your thoughts and manage depression #19
Find Your Voice
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Find your voice - Episode 19- "How to control your thoughts and manage depression" - Alex Roberts #19
Tagline: "Do what you want to do, not what people want you to do "
Alex Roberts, was a recommended to me by a friend and little did I know he was actually a neighbour...well almost! Despite sharing the same postcode, love for personal training, fitness, heath and mindset we also shared a lot of personal stories in this episode.
More so from Alex who bravely who showcases his vulnerability by openly talking about depression, anxiety and his struggles with grief and the loss of his father. A genuinely humble guy who has achieved success by just being himself and helping people on a daily basis. His approach to self talk has inspired and motivated me, and he hits on so many key aspects during this interview that we can all implement and take on board to enhance our levels of happiness and mindset
A shining example that what you see, isn't what you always get and the importance of never judging a book by its cover.
I thank Alex for his openness, his bravery and for being an all round great guy. I urge you all to support and follow his journey as he is a great person to know and connect with.
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welcome to an episode of find your voice
a movement led by yours truly
Aren do a guy who has overcome
crippling anxiety adversity and
difficulty like so many of you in life
whose main goal now is to help you
combat your excuses take control of your
life write your own story and most
importantly find your voice so now
without further ado I welcome the host
of the show himself mr. Aren do what's
going on people thank you for tuning in
to another episode of find your voice my
name is Aren and as always I am the
host of the show so I'm extremely
excited to be bringing you Alex Roberts
to the show today and Alex is somebody
who was actually recommended to me via a
friend now alex is a personal trainer
similar to myself we have similar
interests but what really struck a chord
with me when I spoke to Alex prior to
him coming on this episode was he's
battled with anxiety over well and
depression now I can't diagnose myself
in depression because I've never been
clinically diagnosed with it but when it
comes to ins ie a novel one boy can I
relate so it was extremely interesting
to hear his side of this and I suppose
when many of you follow his journey
after this which I'm very soon you're
gonna want to do you're gonna see his
social media profile and think wow is
this the guy on the episode because like
many of us we judge a book by its cover
and Alex when you see his cover on
Instagram you wouldn't necessarily think
this is an individual who perhaps
suffers in the way that he explains on
this interview so I think without
further ado we're gonna get straight
into this and once again I just want to
thank everyone for their amazing support
we've now hit well over 100 reviews
thank you so so much for that
okay so firstly I just want to thank
Alex for coming on the show today how
you doing today I'm fine
you good where is good fantastic yeah
I'm not you're coming you sure it's
alright that's good stuff so I know Alex
briefly we've spoken obviously on social
media that's where we connected we're
actually neighbors we don't live too far
from each other actually five minutes
literally yes so I think it's important
for the listeners who are listening to
this
today to get to understand a little bit
about yourself so a little bit about
your story and basically what's brought
you here in your life situation today
I've recently been doing my own sort of
videos and songs are in depression
myself I've never really experienced any
mental health problems at all until I
lost my dad four years ago now yeah four
years ago I didn't had a single problem
didn't really suffer from anxiety
depression or anything but it seemed to
be that significant sort of traumatic
moment and brought brought a number of
problems okay as such so yeah I'd say
the 1 4 Matic man was obviously losing
my dad which then spiraled on to a
number of other things later down the
line a first sort of new heir sort of
mental health problems was funnily
enough when out in New York the
Christmas okay after I'd lost my dad
I was literally walking down one of the
streets going towards Grand Central
Station and I'm I just felt so like
overwhelmed it was said he was so
strained and that felt anything like had
just overwhelmed and I was just like
Bestway describing he was trapped inside
my own head rocky do you Jonesy no I
mean I sort of trapped in my own head
and I was I was just really overwhelmed
for no particular reason at all and
that's when that's um the main sort of
defining defining time where I sort of
felt and knew but I was suffering from
sort of mental elf right and this was
four years ago yeah how old are you know
if you don't want me that's for 27 so
you're 27 so around the age of 23 was
you so just for the listeners now
obviously I know you're a personal
trainer you've been doing personal
training for how many years five or six
five six years so you actually a
personal trainer at this point as well
yes okay so in terms of we'll jump back
to where you are now so in terms unlike
your general life going up to say 23
before this moment happened what kind of
stuff was you do was it was you always
into the training the model those inter
trained not not so much to mine okay so
the mind absolutely not I don't think
many of us know what
no I'm not yeah not a thing I was very
sporty I play good level of rugby player
after County fantastic I was at
university very very very carefree okay
I'd say I really didn't give it yeah
absolutely
very carefree very still I'm out going
to an extent now but slightly a bit more
reserved let's say we're very bubbly I
was on track with with Union stuff but
yeah in terms of tuning into the mind or
so into is my intuition if you if you'd
like and then when you had that tragic
moment when you lost your dad that's
when I started realizing order in a
second it's one thing training our body
it's another thing yeah yeah later
percent and have you so what have you
done then since then cuz obviously
you're similar to me in that respect so
I we touched on it briefly before this
sometime personal training myself right
yeah and I understand the importance of
you know looking after yourself
physically but more so now I train every
day more for this ya know Mike and
people don't get that people might think
is for aesthetics or for a six-pack or
something it's truly not yeah it's truly
two combines ie not have that V anymore
yeah is that something that you do as
well so I think now yeah training is
very much a part of me improving my
mindset as well now it's probably the
most essential thing for me now
so I know it's a difference when I don't
train serotonin levels drop in except I
know some big difference
lack of energy that's not now was the
that was the main one for me cuz I had a
week off my own training a couple of
weeks back and I was just tired and
waking up tired going to bed tired it
was just yeah boy it's one of them like
but then you start self sabotaging
yourself don't you for not draining them
well in reality your body needs to rest
but yeah I mean it's very important for
the mindset nonetheless and the more
people can recognize that yeah the
better creasy's yourself were you've got
goal you've got a target point you gotta
you've got a goal point focal point
mm-hmm so in terms of briefly you meant
like the mental health thing would you
call it anxiety and overwhelm or would
you actually call it depression have you
been diagnosed or is it something that
your yeah I mean oh yeah well I suffered
well still suffer from anxiety now okay
but I had my main by that bad episode
last January I have nowhere right
absolutely out of nowhere so obviously
when I lost my dad I was quite low and
Bobby that will be the best time very
numb okay maybe didn't understand as
much as I should have done what was
going on maybe so I sort of known to the
feeling's boffing last January that that
was a real scary moment or a scary point
I think my sleep started to go and once
you sleep starts where you don't deal
very well with all our suffering with
insomnia this was about two weeks so I
jumped on some medication friends are in
depression and slowly slowly start to
lift okay and it was quite amazing
really because we've in the space of a
year
I don't it's mad mad to think about a
bought Mustang right I traveled over I
know another free countries child
another three countries changed
workplaces again and I'm not saying this
was from the tablets whatsoever but I
also think another defining thing I
bought some of Tony Robbins he's content
okay a big mindset guy guru and I bought
his content and did that for three or
four weeks and that was a bit of a game
changer as well that's brilliant
so in the space of six months to a year
and switched from literally rock-bottom
I mean when I say rock-bottom I was I
had to move to my mom's for about two
weeks would you say you were ever
suicidal I had thoughts I've never had
never come tried to commit now I did
have thoughts but I would never do okay
I know but never done it but and yeah I
got to that I got to that sort of very
low point
just lying on a sofa watching the TV and
he was he was a terrible terrible part I
think my mom was really shocked as well
that I've gone from that to that point
in course here it was crazy
Wow and I was helpless to it mmm it felt
like I couldn't do anything like now
obviously in hindsight you can recognize
you were in this kind of slum yeah yeah
so in that particular moment would you
oblivious to it like how you acted right
okay not clear okay couldn't do a thing
it's crazy it was literally at zero Wow
and it was a kind of Tommy Tory Robin
sorry Tony well and it's fully enough so
watch these pearl he's got he's got a
program on that let's call them I am NOT
your guru yeah and I watched that every
day for like five days I'm going to cry
a lot yeah I was crying there's one
scene with it with the lady who had
suicidal woman yeah yeah that's what
pulled me out of it okay the suicidal
woman when she said like I can't cope no
more a car and that was a turning point
I vote no more of this now yeah yeah got
myself back into work so obviously at
this point I was in Ireland
okay I'm self-employed or wasn't earning
I'm off work I'm in January a really
busy periods of all these sports all
these sports are going on yeah yeah but
yet just completely overwhelmed felt
like I was way out of control
Wow didn't have a clue what was going on
how to tackle it so this six-month
transition now you've got you've got the
Mustang you've gone travelling you've
sort of lifted yourself back up again
yeah sort of finding your way again
yeah is that a recent event now are we
talking is that now her arm
how's your position right now good
strong fantastic strong I mean from last
January to this January's been very
strong okay and so on food threat this
year and just find that then so I
followed Tony Robbins I follow a lot of
pa yeah because I have to how I put food
in my mouth how I lift weights I have to
also put stuff into my mind yeah Bagon
on that sort of stuff whatever it is
whoever you you know you resonate with I
think you should put it into you yeah
yeah because otherwise you start
watching the news your thoughts are
completely the wrong way yeah in with
the way that I wouldn't recommend if you
want like a strong mindset yeah so so
that's it
and so what I want to know now is
obviously you're in a good place now
touch briefly on the gym stuff what's
your daily habits like now because I'm
thinking there's probably a thousand
people listening to this who can
resonate with what you've just gone
through the anxiety that feeling of just
being in a rock yeah and I believe that
motivation doesn't last forever and it
comes down to a level of discipline to
kind of just get over those bad days
yeah so what kind of routines do you do
on there like a daily basis I mean I try
my best to sort of get up the same time
every day quickly c'est quoi best 7
Harper 7 mmm saying you've got that
solid routine
I normally have breakfast as normal I
won't so I'll prep the food for the day
ahead or the on coming days because I'd
normally have gaps ok in between clients
I can pop em and prep all the food yo D
it's fresh then as well of course I'm
fortunate enough that I can come back
home and get obviously so I've got a
stress with crap not saying it's a bad
thing to prep into brilliant things yeah
absolutely I don't do that anymore I
could do so close myself yeah I can just
come pop back so they're not all go to
work do like my morning sessions maybe
straight through into the afternoon then
train and maybe come back then a few
more you need depends on what the
Diaries looking like okay nighttime I
don't really have caffeine past 2 3
o'clock ok I cook caffeine off I'm not
too picky with food late at night
doesn't it doesn't really bother me yeah
as long song again and that calories
that any impaired a that
really matter fury at 11 o'clock or not
more so more freedom like yeah I like to
sleep like yeah yeah say yeah
then I'll obviously do what I was going
on meeting where the chat with friends
girls whatever whatever's on the agenda
I don't normally train in evenings okay
not normally I'd normally have it
wrapped up by get out of the way free
p.m. yeah training do you listen to
books do you read books do you do any
gratitude or goal-setting or anything
like that yeah it's funny enough for all
you're gonna see this is mad as well
oh I'd actually vote when I was in this
row yeah or as I was just coming out of
it last year I droped some goals down
and every single one was it happened it
was AMA I wrote it down on piece of
paper and stuck on the side of my bed on
the cupboard and one was buy a new card
said Range Rover originally why don't I
upped it out a lot but that was one I
got a new car yeah trap wait this is so
weird since it said travel to free
another three countries you've never
been to yeah we're not in trouble I went
to Dublin I went to Budapest I went to
Zurich Switzerland
damn what was the other Craig this is
the craziest one I think once said moot
move Jim places because it will change
the game this was these worldwide okay
Andy
I did that you spoke about the lid yeah
plastic my mindset was gone from there
to learn so I wasn't particularly happy
at work yeah mr. just was not helping
matters whatsoever yeah but it was just
weird and every single one that I wrote
down yeah yeah and I didn't refer back
to him all until one day I just looked
him before yeah yeah well this is the
thing so I'm very big on personal
development like I pride myself on my
last job think I read like 50 books or
something okay and the first ever this
is this is why we were quite similar
when I was 25 I was working in London at
the time and the first person
development guru I ever found was 20
Robbins yeah so I was listening to his
stuff I mean one of these tapes he
mentions writing it down and the
importance of goals and I remember I
that particular point I wrote down
I think it was like two three cause a
common belief there Birnam the phase 2
and it was 2 1 buy a house and two to
buy a golf always wanted a golf croquet
you could never afford one like mom and
dad blessing they brought me a fiat
punto which is like the best time ever
yeah it was all we could afford and is
your first car loved it to bits but in
my head was always like if I can get a
golf kind of made it yeah and at that
time again in a row tip I forgot about
it until about two three years later and
I'm getting a Scirocco cuz they've just
come out a stroke I look hard before
yeah they are amazing my kind of the
fault of sure up so ever so I'm meant to
get involved it's just kind of like in
my eyes a bit man upgrade yeah and I've
got buying my first investment hold and
so it was weird because I remember
finding my books women burrows moving as
a what's this and I'll pretend it's my
goals and that's why every time I've
done it it has worked so now one of my
kind of practices on every morning is to
what my goals now nothing you've just
proven that yes yes because what happens
subconsciously you're almost seeing the
opportunities out there and you're
probably driving more towards a 100
percent so yeah yeah I mean I write
goals down and what was everything was
talking about I meditate 39 ok yeah it's
when I was struggling in that bad past
I've seen tell okay can ask what your
meditation process is I just use a any
YouTube app that I really can we're rich
one for grieving cried she just loved it
I mean this loads so simple it's a
simple matter of I'm just thinking for
the listeners get on YouTube the stuffs
out there type in minute yeah yeah for
however long you can do it yeah yeah and
until you fall asleep
really that's why also you do at night
yeah I do it at night I don't really
tend to do a probably a good idea
because if you're anything like me but
I've got to sleep and I'm worrying about
other things I've got to do the name
yeah that's how the brain works so it's
very seductive at night isn't it yeah so
I tend to do it at night and sometimes I
won't use it if I'm quite chilled I'll
just go straight to sleep
it'll depend yeah yeah so your food
obviously you're a personal trainer and
I'm probably the worst person trying to
give food advice because I used to
suffer with binge eating I would be very
flexible with my diet so if I fancy
something I'm just gonna eat it because
I don't have been doin it later yeah so
my diet is a bit like I do get responses
on Instagram but how are you eating this
again to me it's all about calories yeah
you know what goes into your body you
barely enough effectively European K
yeah yeah body composition so have you
got any particular foods that you eat or
again um now I mean so up more flex
we're gonna try and cut down like so
obviously I've been bulking for Trump on
some mass a while now I finally hit 15
stone plus now so I think I'm back down
to 15 stone now was 15 stone fight four
weeks ago
yeah I'm 15 stone now so I'm quite
regimented leave it now as I cut down
when I'm trying to bulk up I'm not as
recommending I'm still in terms of the
foods I mean I'll keep the same foods
like every I'll change them up every two
weeks so if a breakfast still be oats
whey protein powder and not salt Ana's
milk yeah then two big meals of like
chicken noodle stir-fry and the last me
that we salmon I'm right and I'll be the
same for two weeks and ostrich eat of
wire okay it seems to be working
yeah and then obviously hydration is
asleep yeah I have loads I only drink
water really water and tea I could
pretty much have the same food I suppose
on all the time my only thing is when I
first died I took a everything that
you'd consider open commas here a bad
food yeah and then what was happening
was I did that for about 18 months I was
so strict and the moment I stopped
dieting because I gave up boxing all of
a sudden mate I was in like 10,000
calories a day to that to that really
honestly to the point last um what would
be here I'd be out with the missus and I
couldn't buy the car back because I was
just like glued up like the night
professor horrible and what used to
happen was I used to beat up for two
days Friday Saturday sometimes
absolutely hate myself swear at myself
in the mirror and I used to go to the
gym three times a day up until the
following Thursday and then what I do is
I use down to like 1800 so I'm wondering
in overtraining and then all of a sudden
come Friday again when I go out for a
drink
I'm drink and obviously then you lose
all your common sense and I've do the
10,000 Kelly thing again slow so I'll
use this thing called my fitness park
which yeah mate he was like this just
like you all the time so I've got over
that too hypnotherapy and why I did it
and then that's why now I'm very
flexible in my process of said that you
percent my diet is like nutrient-dense
food you know that the stuff that you
years they're talking about but then the
last day if I want a biscuit or a
chocolate you're gonna see me do it
basically okay so yeah it's interesting
yeah yeah why were we accessible it's um
it's crew shoulder yeah I mean I wish I
had more of a nutrient-dense style at
yourself I just think there's also an
argument for sustainability as well yeah
you've got other diets sustainable and
you've got to enjoy it because that's
gonna have mental implications if not as
well if you're not enjoying your food in
it everything looks back to the point if
you're not enjoying your food you're not
gonna sustain it yeah therefore your
body's not maybe where it's supposed to
be or where you want it to be therefore
the mental problems coming it's all it's
all interlinked of course everything's
interlink to it and just on the mental
health thing there that you that you're
on about so would you say that's
probably the biggest adversity that
you've been through during that time and
for the listeners because I'm sure
through our life we're all gonna lose
somebody very close to us and go for
that sort of patch in our life
what were the lessons that you learn
from it and how did you fully get over
it god Jerry's the 100 percent the
biggest adversity I've never experienced
anything like that my entire life not
even when the day my dad passed okay I
didn't feel as bad right as I did last
January the emotional pain was just as a
sailor's overwhelming do you think it
was a build-up from I think every what
happened was rock so I went see a
counselor like last and late last year
going into early this year because I've
never I never had a proper bereavement
counseling and I still had loads of
stuff underlined and I think that's what
the bill that was okay so imagine having
that much emotional pain build-up for
what three years and just explode an
alpha to correlate shape yeah it's just
it's just gone explode in the air yeah
and I tell you in terms of the lessons
learn I think the bereavement counselor
definitely helped me to understand as
interesting the stuff and the lessons
that I learned were the grief has no
timeline
it's now got a time line there's no
proper way to grieve yeah yeah it's okay
to feel back you've got it you've got to
feel these emotions you've got to feel
the emotions and not subdue them okay
see if you subdued him you have an
episode like I did and that's I wouldn't
wish that wish that were my worst enemy
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another lesson was probably I learned
that I'm strong a lot stronger than a
fault of I thought you were yeah yeah to
get through that I mean there's not much
to phase me now to be honest if I can
come over that they're in the fin and
and this is one of the things I've tried
to do with this podcast as well
is I don't want somebody to go through
what you've just been through you know
to lose their parent and then go through
the pressure what I wanted to do is
realize the last point you said that was
just amazing it's but stronger than we
we know we are and that we think we're
capable of and I think the only way you
find that is by going through some
adversity or yeah I should never know or
should I be no no this is where I love I
love the gym and I love people that are
into the gym because when you go to the
gym you don't go there to have like a
luxury time you go there you put your
body in distress yeah provided how you
train and then you you're almost trying
to grow in that moment and I urge people
not just to do that in the gym to do
that through life as ah yes why I got to
probably speak in sessions when most of
the time I choke oh you go you're going
to like help you absolutely opt that
does I mention that the other thing
that's been really good especially for
yourself with anxiety as well I think
that's brilliant and the first few times
I've been there and they've asked me to
say something I'm just looked out every
wannabe luck don't say it's in number
one public fear though isn't it it is
and I thought in my head if I can
conquer that I can conquer anything and
I wonder way there now and I think like
two weeks four actually won the best
beat of the day coach me if you ask me
three months already left yeah you know
chances that's amazing though man yeah
so hence white but you're doing the same
things like you've had to come out of
this sort of dark hole and you've done
it and you've said some amazing things
they're like it's okay not to feel great
grief has no timeline and I think coming
from a male and most of you know if you
could follow Alex
paid so like Instagram in great physical
shape you're training people you're
going to come across as a sort of alpha
male or suppose yeah yeah cause there's
a vulnerability in what you're saying
and I think as a guy I think we need to
obviously it's best that more yeah
because we have this thing like bravado
like our culture our weaknesses and I
think especially meant to have one of
the things I'm working on this year as
are is really trying to raise awareness
for mental health yeah because my mom
suffered with it support people with
mental health and I think people are
yourself it make other people who may be
in a similar situation to yourself think
if alex is it 100 yeah yeah now you
won't believe the amount of people that
have told me to have gotta do you won't
beliefs add isn't it like I honestly
think most of the human race has it to
some probably got it some degree yeah
where some people just say you how about
a few years I've had people just come
out yeah about it for about ten years
right but I'm the on the surface
everyone's got masks everyone's got a
mess yeah some of the strongest people
are no wood on the surface successful
and they've come you have been
absolutely struggling for 10 years it's
crazy my anxieties but today I'm strong
yeah yeah and this is this is what I try
and be as transparent as I can on my
social media with everything I do
so ridership there something's gone
about try and say not to sound like
depressing because I don't want to come
across as a depressing life yeah and
it's almost like guys it's okay not to
be okay yeah or to have a shit day where
you just feel like you're in the funk
but I get those days but if course he's
gone wrong like I probably had the best
day before and I wake up the next day
feel absolute shit for note-for-note no
that's that's unfortunate the horrible
thing about yeah anxiety and stuff it's
it can just creep up on you for
absolutely no reason
hence why it did two years off well yeah
this was exactly and I'm overwhelmed
feeling as well oh there's there's been
overwhelmed moderately than has been
overwhelmed
completely with everything that you
can't control anything you you can't
even function under the day-to-day
routine if you ask me a question I reply
a very about ten-second
later Wow it's a serious very serious
thing very serious thing and you're
working on it now though yeah I think of
my massive yes inroads to it to be
honest and I honestly put that down to
the bereavement counselor okay so you'd
recommend anyone going through that to
at least talk whether it's with the
counselor you know some people have a
stigma attached to that but I think talk
is probably one of the most important
100% I mean I wouldn't see a really good
woman called Elaine at Walsall
bereavement center which is free yeah
yeah free of charge so I mean that the
system she's got there she's very she's
very very good I mean it just made me
understand my emotions more Jamie and
cosy I think the trouble with anxiety
feel completely alone with it down yeah
and you think the only one in the world
yeah yeah absolutely ten times worse
yeah see people need to understand that
you're not the only one going through it
and that in itself makes huge
improvement because you feel sort of
like the most worthless one in the room
is not make sense so yeah it's nice and
other people are soft it's nice to know
in a way people are suffering as well as
horrible as that I know what I mean by
that though I know it's nice to know
that people have the same infusion
problems yeah and I think if we lick
about twenty said earlier that's
probably the problem with society today
especially when you're hearing about
kids with like depression or kind of
symptoms they go I don't like social
media and seeing this perfect life that
everyone's portraying yeah that's not
that's not it it's like somebody might
post every brand new car or they might
post a holiday but there might be in
debt there might have had a bereavement
the day before so anything would have
happened absolutely and if what happens
is we see that as a snapshot now you got
to remember 99.9% of people on in the
world are already gonna post highlights
them on this follow us has great
reception we've see the good side
absolutely and and that's kind of like
the gift and the curse I think with
social media which is and again another
reason I do this is
say look yeah you got fantastic stuff on
your histogram you can learn a hell of a
lot about fitness and personal training
and stuff but there's a real person here
and you could probably learn more
valuable life lesson yeah yeah by this
interview that since 100% I think I
think the kids of our generation now
that didn't set up to fail that garbs
I'm sure they've got no chance because
they're coming to a world where they've
been handed this this phone here this
tablet here yeah and I think I was
listening so glad you know simon Sinek
yeah yeah yeah I was listening to some
of his stuff I mean he's basically
saying there's no way like kids now can
handle the dopamine fix of what they're
looking at the big good hormone fix
because they're they're obsessed of it
that as soon as air phone pings after
happy it's crazy
pick it up when they don't want you to
be happy about his own when you think
about it the grand scheme of things it's
just but I was just I was driving
through some place near Warsaw a few
weeks ago and I was just looking and I
was like the kids coming out of school
and every single one on the street was
on the phone I'm not talking about
one in ten every single one of them was
on the phone and a fuck I just refer
back to when I just call I was running
around
I mean running around and doing just
crazy stuff like I look at them now and
I think that you just been cell phone
it's not their fault I don't think it's
their fault it's not their fault
I think leeches are allowing some phones
into lessons are they now it's like you
said potentially setting them up to fail
isn't it I think we're kind of like a
good generation where we lived before
the phony era but also now we get to
benefit I suppose from like a work
perspective yeah so I fell into the trap
initially of like say like Instagram you
know you looking who's engaging my post
and stuff yeah I do now and I probably
said for the last four months is
whenever I write a post unlike what the
Facebook I use quite a lot I just turned
my phone off them and I only ever got
back to reply what I don't do is scroll
through Facebook and like other people's
stuff will follow other people's stuff
too much yeah is it all supportive but
because I don't want to put my mind in
that in that moment or no rage yeah
agente really thinking yeah
I'm doing enough or I'm not enough
because someone's always doing this so
just on my own something you have to be
a bit selfish that look this is what I
want to say if you resonate with it
fantastic if you don't mind past it but
I just want to get off my chest so are
you social media especially prayer
that's a way I just talked it to myself
and it's kind of like my journey yeah
yeah I can be like oh yeah you should
say that then how much I've got grown
since yeah if that makes sense
and that's helping massively because I
reckon if I was constantly on Facebook
and I've done it where I'm just watching
everyone and everyone's buying new cars
and doing crazy things and I'm like you
almost been inferior a little bit yeah
but as you said those points would
follow up at the same time how do you
know that person is in hasn't taken a
huge loan to pay that you just put on
the Instagram of the face but of course
yeah they haven't been given that
haven't won the car you didn't it might
be one those free options
you're never know any plug you
automatically think are their doing well
they're doing it right that's the phrase
new reality probably haven't got much
self worth custom I've been given the
car so Duty absolutely and I think the
most important thing is probably like
happiness that how happy are they really
oh yes well of course this is this is
the issued so it's all false
representations what they do is take it
on face value isn't it yeah this is it
as you say it's the the pros and cons of
social media media but I think now what
what annoys me is that I have to use
social media for business for business
at the same time I hate it yeah
Bono's gotta be done 100% that's that's
where oh yes stuck between ever to let
go of social media and just try and find
a way that you can live with it yeah
because it's only gonna get worse yeah
of course I mean we spoke about voice
hence the podcast yeah everything's
going to probably voice-activated
apparently there's a massive statistic I
don't know if the top of my head that
most people when they search into like
Google or Syria or something and I'm
probably talking about younger
demographic yeah they do
via voice so that's how much is changing
I mean that we're probably still used to
typing stuff and it's it's incredible
really I mean it's incredible how much
we've developed break I just wish you
know their whole mentor half side and
that sort of it was developing at this
yeah we said yeah it's um it's very very
scary for them yeah I don't know if your
clients on any one set stuff or yeah I'm
pretty much to go to guy oh yeah
fantastic yeah pretty much do you be a
good great advocate but very very very
much so and i've i've had people like
i've pulled people a depression i pulled
them have things by just doing what I do
really don't rely telling going from my
experiences etc regardless from younger
than them or not doesn't matter have
another different experience absolutely
but you have massively change people
it's mentally physically got more the
best periods
yeah what you do what you do but I mean
I'm not gonna name names I don't know so
enough like I mean there was one guy
trained is literally where I was in
terms of rock bottom he didn't lead the
house that he didn't leave the house and
he hadn't trained in how long and I
pretty much pulled him out of it he was
in this last year I think he was in it
they're not then I didn't know he
dropped before he was it fell a bit low
and poor mentally before I did so I I
fell into I fell into it I got back out
of it and pulled him okay sort of out as
well which is commendable because it's
probably the hardest thing just putting
yourself out yeah and I just remembering
like I was trying to I was trying to get
into work but couldn't write I was tell
himself yesterday I'm going back in and
fire comes to it and I can get back in
and I remember I'm just saying you just
take your time etc so eventually got
back in and now he's here and of a three
or four stone down fantastic at work had
a baby oh wow I love that me had a baby
yeah yeah loves these training so good
stuff good on you mate
so yeah he's on it now yeah I think
because obviously I did my qualification
I think about eight years ago my last
few clients I stopped at the back end of
last year they used to say the training
and everything yeah it's fine whatever
but they say we enjoy like the mindset
porks and stuff that I used to give him
love that side of it because you don't
know what people what stresses have got
on the life and you don't know what in
that hour our slot or whatever you have
yeah you don't know how much you'll
benefit directly because people I'll
tell you after G that you don't even
know what you do yeah you don't see no
yeah you don't see it yeah do you know I
mean and that's a special thing I think
that's a special thing about the job I
agree if you can change someone's life
around like that it's pretty bit there's
no better feeling better than earning
millions for some companies lately
absolutely you're gonna see not much of
oh yeah so would you say that's your
kind of motivation now like moving
forward or I mean what what keeps you
going now on a daily basis
that in itself only percent that I mean
I think you have to get to know people a
little bit more don't you their personal
goals what the one thing you can start
to build that rapport yeah and once you
start to build that rapport it means
even more to you doesn't it because you
lied the pass and you become be the best
digital yeah my similar so you're
rocking up into work and it's not even
work Jeremy you doing it for them and
let's just see the seem so grateful yeah
you made me want to go back there yeah
that's a big finger isn't it I mean if
you can if you can do that that's pretty
special I think of course but if you can
start to retune people's minds and
relationships with food exercise with
themselves it then impacts on the
personal life and other stuff like that
yeah you create a butterfly effect yeah
positive because I think if you if you
can start to improve that that there's
gonna be good things that'll topple over
absolutely from that closing the hardest
workers in the room in the gym and
normally the heart the most successful
people financially your family wise
relationship probably if you take that
level of discipline and work ethic into
the world it's all a discipline isn't it
under the most disciplined people are
most successful people and if you can
prove that in the gym probably one the
hardest I agree scenarios are going to
be ok I always look at someone and if
they're physically in good shape
you know you've got some good level of
disappeared another half hours yard work
I know you've had to probably go to
social events and not eat what everyone
else is eating or drink what everyone
else a drink lot you've had to make
sacrifices so I fully appreciate that
yeah a lot of people don't understand
that they'll call those sort of people a
gym free cause yes absolutely yeah
when you think about it now the matter I
always you've probably have to do to
change a physiques and our bodies and
it's incredible incredible amount yeah
but a lot of people don't understand
that and there are a hell of a lot of
lazy people yeah yeah hell of a lot of
lazy people which I can't understand I
don't understand how they've got to that
yeah how about that stage whoever its
tuning from a young age or Parenthood or
fell in with the wrong crowd
I don't know yeah do you know I mean so
I don't know it's one of the pillars
that are you so I was in corporate first
I went straight into business one of the
things that I wanted to do was to work
with people on a one-to-one basis so yes
I love the person training I do it more
and I sort of mindset basis as well lie
especially property and stuff but can
help them yeah develop and one of the
first things I'll say before I start
working with them is you gotta get a gym
plan
don't be talking to liver yeah one thing
for you to do before you do anything
else is work on yourself first so all of
them will have to do some level of
physical activity now whatever that is
it doesn't need to be lifting weights it
could be yoga ISM going for runs
whatever they want to do but you have to
do some level of activity yeah yeah I
mean that almost be any discomfort in
order to grow yeah and always do that
face because then I think like you said
if they're if they can work really hard
to give 100% on that they're nothing
okay that's a great trait with that
could work with that person's got
working yeah yeah whereas if they've
turn around but no I just want to learn
about this or making money but I
wouldn't do this I'm not okay I'm
probably not the right code for you yeah
because my coach is gonna be holistic
it's gonna be about everything yeah yeah
and I think you'll be great at that
I think obviously as your business
starts to expand in your personal
training you could potentially I don't
have your own franchise I don't know
what your goals are but because you have
both aspects of it I think you're very
really well yeah yeah it is a good thing
to tap into niche it's all interlinked
isn't it and it's only gonna get it's
only gonna get more
prevalent in society a hundred percent
so what's your fear now death right okay
I spoke to my Cantrell about this
because she was like when when you lose
people close to you rather than extended
family or someone who's not particularly
close to you you realize mortality cuz
until then you're immortal our ninja
know I mean you don't fit nothing you
really think cuz I it doesn't really
cross your mind you're invincible
through more so that death scares me
okay now yeah that scares me and I think
you just you've hit the nail on the head
there because if somebody hasn't gone
through death listening to this podcast
they're gonna think nice not really
resonating somebody who's been through
it it almost comes in your head on a
daily basis so I think everyone
everyone's going to lose some worth some
stage that's just the way the world
works you know we haven't worked out how
to survive forever and I lost about
seven people within 18 months no friends
or family
but prior to that I'm not really lost no
one so for me is like here soul and soul
has lost their granddad or the grandma
and I feel sad but that was it it was
very short-lived
whereas now yeah that whole death thing
I suppose it does scare me because I
think I don't know if this is my last
day hence why I try and like bust my ass
and work as much as I can to make sure
that if I was to leave today I've left
the world in a better place yeah if that
makes sense so is motivation it is right
it is you become more instantly you feel
like most things scarier and what was it
kind of saying now she was like
obviously once I lost my dad I felt like
I needed to do everything fast needed to
buy have sat down rah-rah-rah all of
these things because she doesn't know
how much time you've got and that's
that's unfortunate thing of this whole
realizing mortality send you in a rush
yeah that's where the anxiety sets in
yeah whatever nothingness by then that
resonates with me so much because I feel
I've got so much to do so many people I
want to help and I'm like I could be
gone tomorrow
and it scares me yeah so you're trying
to rush into it everything yeah and I
know that's probably not the right place
I I follow of course it's not yeah but
we know we know this for your tower
we're
president absolutely well yeah that
that's what she was saying if she felt
like oh my dad died at this age am I
gonna die at this age now yeah I've
gotta do this I gotta do that harsh in
order to this yeah and in reality you've
got all the time in the world really
yeah but in that moment in that
channeling yeah we exact it in your head
yeah but you can't get out of its it's a
parent and that's the UM
that's mortality isn't it do you follow
Gary Vaynerchuk a little bit yeah well
he started to grind on me after was it
yes he's a mob like Jota but one of the
things he says he's really good is he
says you should be impatient in there in
the micro I either short-term or patient
for the macro for the long-term which
when I think about it and why he says it
makes sense so it's like yes you should
work absolutely like 100 percent every
single day as if it's your last day but
still know your goals that you want to
achieve and stuff are gonna take longer
a bit like I suppose bodybuilding for
example yeah you're now on a cot for
example to get t-they it's not gonna
happen no matter how hard you train
today you're not going to get to that
body today yeah even if you've had the
best I ever today something happen but
what you can do is absolutely crush it
right now and then tomorrow repeat next
day repeat and then all of the sudden
you will you will get there as well yeah
so like that's one thing he says that
really resonates with me yeah but like
you said when you get that level of
anxiety and it it overwhelms you it's
difficult to think you're like you're
not thinking there's no clarity
basically your thoughts yeah yeah and
what what people need to realize like
you're in control of these thoughts you
can still control them you've just
you've gone down a path where you think
you can't control them do you know I
mean except every four is well within
the control we just don't know it like
when you're in that bad patch yeah
that's right and that's what I learnt as
well and that was with the bereavement
counselor yeah yeah that's powerful but
like you are in control of your thoughts
it's just a belief that you're not that
means you're leaving that you're not
when you are should we were before we
were before
before we had events and one not so many
I think about it a lot we were kids the
thoughts we have you're invincible you
know we were going to
Kaizen our heroes why can't we have that
an absolutely because somewhere along
life somebody's told you you can't do
something or you've fallen down and
rather as a kid where you keep getting
back up you've actually said you know
I'll stay down we're just going the
opposite way yeah yeah that's a problem
in it and it does take certain things
like these events traumatic events and
other events in your life that obviously
make up your thoughts do you know it
means in your beliefs your beliefs are
the one you start believing certain
things about the world and yourself that
comes out in your actions and your
beliefs are just a combination of the
thoughts yeah cause this is why you've
got a control everyone everyone's got
different millions of ways it's not just
us yeah of course
trust me when you get to a deep
conversation with someone you really
know what the thinking about you they
actually thinking that you know I mean
so you know we're not alone with that
that's what we've got and you are you
are in control you've just got to try
your best to control them it's a good
affirmation tough so I do affirmations
in the morning as well
so I say stuff like I'm no longer
anxious I'm not shy yeah yeah I think
you have to consciously make the effort
which is a viewfinder so you have to
consciously make yeah yeah because if
subconsciously I'm I'm not in I'm
potential everyone has to do this yeah I
can't see how you can you cannot do it I
think everyone does do it but we assume
the people at the top like you know
you're Dwayne Johnson you're Kevin Hart
celebrities they don't do it but they
did Wayne Johnson suffers yeah dad yeah
really badly rock is that everyone's
Idol
it's amazing mean yeah and you are you
are approaches of your your thoughts you
are you are your thoughts on powerful me
yeah but like people need to understand
you can't control them yeah if you want
to if you just let them spoil problems
isn't it absolutely yeah but what
they've got understand if you do have a
day like that that's fine push it into
the car but that's all and as well are
you better start to continue to beat
yourself up for another few weeks
that lifestyle enough disease we've real
saturations and without you behind some
horses or absolute making up these these
problems yeah which is what humans tend
to do we can we can sabotage ourself as
much as you want but we don't tend to do
to us so why should we do it to
ourselves but we Dukes it's easy
it's true though innit nice I'm not
gonna say to you what's going on in my
head about I won self-sabotage myself
then say the same stuff to you it's
deeper nasties or what to do yeah yeah
isn't that weird
do you know what I mean what so why why
why why do we think it's right to do it
to us ourselves he's probably the most
important at the end of the day I'm yes
sir if you think about it logically we
are actually the most important people
to ourselves yeah so yeah but it's it's
easy and it's easy to say to yourself
it's no one's gonna question okay we're
gonna go in three two one
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yeah definitely achieve your number one
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would you rather know how you will die
or when you were dying when your
favorite hobbies Jim if you could sit
with one person in the world for an hour
you would it be oh my dinero your worst
fear is a child dinner for your favorite
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abolish one thing in the world what
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murdering your favorite song ever death
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your biggest sprint organization okay
fantastic so the next question we're
almost at the end actually it's about
reflection so not really exactly what
you don't know because obviously now
you've worked on your physical health
your mental health you're in a much
better place so nobody exactly what you
know now if you could go back to a time
where you were struggling or maybe a
younger version of yourself and you
could whisper something in that person's
ear just to kind of make their life
easier I suppose growing up what would
you say it will pass
it will pass 100% it will pass me I'll
get bad you've got you've got to go
through this to grow and it will pass
very difficult to see the time yeah
impossible to sing yeah yeah
what it will party will pass a lot that
this isn't last forever yeah nothing
lasts forever
yeah so I'll have to send you a podcast
after this made their little East
Bhagwat similar kind of thing and the
guy on it he was talking about chaos and
how he just flipped the script in his
mind to say he enjoys the chaos because
of high resilience and how much strength
he's gonna build from it and how much
knowledge whereas a lot of us were kind
of trying to avoid pain and stuff where
he's that bring me down because I know
in six months time I'm gonna be much
yeah yeah
you almost let it enter right buddy
we're actually at the last question now
so the last question I always ask my
guess is if in a 150 years time science
fails to save us all and all that exists
is a book on the table and that book is
about you and it's about your life and
all of the great and wonderful things
that you aspire to do you want to do you
know you've done it but in order to make
somebody pick that up what would one
that I will say and two what would the
summary at the bat tell us about you tie
it would be something along the lines of
never give up the summary of my like
what yes I think about this wait there's
there's somebody gone to a book store
and they're looking at all these books
and they've turned it around now you
need to make them want to pick it up to
be like oh that's quite interesting
actually that sounds interesting so a
little bit about yourself maybe the
things you want to achieve how do you
want to be remembered but I just wanted
to say that you'd want to meet as many
people as you can make a positive
impression with everyone you come into
contact with never give up on anything
yeah until it's completely done and just
keep trying to live in the moment
keep trying to live in the moment that's
the only one you can control and just
keep do what you want to do not what
people what you have to do do what you
want to do because there ain't no time
for nothing else really absolutely
really I think I'd pick it up yeah yeah
yeah definitely me I appreciate so thank
you for that that brings us to the end
of the show now but before we leave and
I close it off I just want you to give
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