Discovering Our Scars
182 episodes - English - Latest episode: 2 days ago - ★★★★★ - 26 ratingsDiscovering Our Scars Podcast is all about one thing: honest conversations. Steph and Beth talk about things that make most people uncomfortable (religion, mental illness, sexual abuse, and more). Steph and Beth became friends when they poured their hearts out in a 12-Step recovery small group. Neither was dealing with addiction—but both had hurts, habits, and hang-ups they needed to address. Steph’s journey is detailed in her book, Discovering My Scars, and that’s the inspiration for the podcast. While the podcast is inspired by Steph’s book, the hosts expand on subjects that make each person unique. The mission of the podcast is to help people embrace the “embarrassing” parts of their lives and learn to love and value all of themselves. On the podcast, the hosts share their own experiences and invite guests to broaden the conversation by contributing their own wisdom. As in Steph’s book, the podcast does not “tell you what to do,” rather, it has the ability to inspire people through the hosts’ honest and heartfelt approach.Podcast website: dospod.us
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Who Decides What Sin Is?
April 02, 2021 12:00 - 37 minutes - 26 MBSteph and Beth have an honest conversation about what sin is, what it isn’t, and who decides. They delve into the ethics of sin by asking questions like: If murder is sin then is the executioner who carries out the death penalty committing a sin? And in what ways is sin individual and in what ways is it communal? Are there things that are okay for some people to do, but sinful when done by others? Can you commit a sin and not even know you’ve done it, or does sin require awareness? What if y...
What's in a Name?
March 26, 2021 11:00 - 31 minutes - 21.5 MBWhat does your name say about who you are? In this episode, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about the connection between name and identity. Beth talks about her ill-fated middle-school attempt to go by her actual name (Elizabeth). She also talks about the decision to change her children’s names when they were adopted. She explains that, while their Russian names were special and important, naming a child is an opportunity to give them roots and a sense of family connection. Steph ...
Girl Scouts is More Than Cookies
March 19, 2021 12:00 - 53 minutes - 37.1 MBNever underestimate the importance of being part of something bigger than yourself. Steph and Beth were each part of Girl Scouts, but Steph took it much farther than most—all the way to the end of high school, in fact! Steph sold cookies and earned badges along the way but as a senior in high school she earned the prestigious Gold Award. In this episode, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about how the things we experience in high school can shape us for the rest of our lives. Buy t...
Are you there God? It's me!
March 12, 2021 11:00 - 42 minutes - 29.1 MBPrayer is the ultimate honest conversation. God is not a vending machine and prayer is not about putting in our order. Why do some people have an active prayer life? What do they get out of it? And talking to God is one thing, but what about hearing from God? Is it weird to hear an audible voice and know that it’s God? Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about what it’s like for them to talk to—and hear from—God. Buy the host a coffee and/or tea: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dospod —...
Is Steph Asexual?
March 05, 2021 12:00 - 49 minutes - 33.8 MBAfter the “Love? Actually” episode a few weeks ago, a friend asked Steph if—based on what she said in that episode—she might be asexual. After learning a bit about asexuality, Steph and Beth decided to tackle that exact question: Is Steph asexual? Asexuality, represented by the “A” in LGBTQIA, is the absence (or near absence) of sexual attraction or desire for sexual activity. As ever, Steph is vulnerable in letting listeners into the most private spaces of her life in hopes that it will enc...
Divorce, an Honest Conversation (with Christi)
February 26, 2021 13:00 - 56 minutes - 38.8 MBDivorce is a deeply personal, life-changing event that can be hard to talk about. Neither Steph nor Beth has ever been divorced, so they brought in Beth’s friend Christi Gray for this honest conversation. Christi is a lawyer who has specialized exclusively in family law (i.e., divorces and what happens afterward) for ten years. Christi brings not only her professional experience but also her personal experience to this conversation. She explains how divorce is not only a legal proceeding but...
BTW, Black Lives STILL Matter
February 19, 2021 11:00 - 47 minutes - 32.4 MBIn episodes 35 and 39, Steph and Beth explored the 2020 Black Lives Matter protests and the reality of white privilege. In this episode they check in on their ongoing learning. They have an honest conversation about why it’s important for white people to do this work for themselves (rather than expecting our black friends to do it) and how our upbringing and educational system can get in the way of our learning. For example, growing up in the South, Steph and Beth both learned to celebrate t...
Love? Actually...
February 12, 2021 12:00 - 50 minutes - 34.5 MBSome people can casually say, “I love you,” but for others it’s an almost sacred phrase that is reserved for the most special of circumstances and people. Steph and Beth explore their experience with love—the word and the emotion. Beth has been in love with her husband since she was a teenager, but isn’t there more to “love” than romantic love? Steph understood love in a new way when her first nephew was born. Beth only understood unconditional love after she became a mom. In this episode, S...
Is Our Podcast Virtue Signaling?
February 05, 2021 11:00 - 45 minutes - 31.1 MBVirtue signaling generally refers to an empty act, but is virtue signaling all bad? We each have virtues that we deem important and sometimes we want to signal them. Plus, awareness is valuable and what seems like a meaningless gesture might bring attention that generates change. What do we do when companies signal virtues we disagree with? Do we stop doing business with them or is that taking it too far? Steph and Beth talk about the Capitol riots, Breast Cancer awareness month, the ALS Ic...
Do Good People Have Prejudice?
January 29, 2021 11:00 - 48 minutes - 33.2 MBHow often have you heard someone say, “I’m a good person. I’m not prejudiced!”? Are the two mutually exclusive? Is our desire to label people good and bad at the heart of our inability to admit and address our prejudices? Steph and Beth admit and explore some of their prejudices, where they come from, and how they impact their interactions even today. Steph shares about a prejudice it was hard to admit to Beth. Beth talks about a recent experience at work that opened her eyes to a prejudice ...
Insurrection, Sedition, Coup...
January 22, 2021 11:00 - 40 minutes - 27.7 MBOn January 6, 2020, rioters entered the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to overthrow the government and thwart the certification of the Electoral College results. We’ve launched into 2021 with words straight out of the history books—insurrection, sedition, coup, and treason. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about how this event has affected them. What is their understanding of what led to this? Was it predictable, surprising, or both? Whether you are still trying to process how you feel...
My Coming Out Story (with David)
January 15, 2021 12:00 - 41 minutes - 28.6 MBSix years ago Steph’s friend David began revealing to people that he is gay. In this episode, he joins Steph and Beth for an honest conversation about what that was like. Straight people never have to “come out” to their parents, declaring their attraction to another gender. When we step back and look at what our LGBTQ+ friends go through, we can see how strange it must be. For David, being honest about his attraction to men meant relinquishing leadership and teaching roles at his church an...
Can your Hobby be your Job?
January 08, 2021 12:00 - 38 minutes - 26.6 MBA mentor once told Steph that her hobby and her job had to be two different things. On this episode, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about jobs and hobbies. The dichotomy between the work you do for money and the things you do for fun is an old way of looking at things that doesn’t represent today’s lifestyles. To really unpack that question, Steph and Beth have a conversation about hobby stores, the TV show The Office, pets, video games, and more. Plus, they delve into today’s t...
#BLESSED?
January 01, 2021 13:00 - 33 minutes - 23.3 MBSteph and Beth have an honest conversation about the use of #Blessed. While it can be intended to show appreciation, it also has some troubling implications. If you aren’t #blessed, are you #cursed? Also, what do we mean when we say “God Bless America?” And why do we say “God bless you” when someone sneezes? It turns out if you sneeze around Steph, she probably won’t say a thing! How can we discern people’s motives or intentions about #Blessed and does it even matter? Is there a difference b...
Is this the New Normal? Reflecting on 2020.
December 25, 2020 12:00 - 33 minutes - 23.3 MB2020 has been a year like no other. It brought us together and tore us apart all at the same time. We endured debates about the efficacy of wearing a mask AND we endured presidential debates. Police misconduct and brutality brought our need for anti-racist ideas to the forefront. And in the midst of it all we stopped shaking hands, eating in restaurants, and traveling on planes. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about the highs and lows of 2020. Buy the host a coffee and/or tea: ht...
How a Burn Survivor is Forever Changed (with Samuel)
December 18, 2020 11:00 - 50 minutes - 34.7 MBJust as Samuel Moore-Sobel was about to start his sophomore year in high school, his face was burned by sulfuric acid. In a flash, his life was changed forever. Samuel endured many surgeries to address the physical injuries, but soon he realized the emotional trauma he suffered was just as real as the burns on his face. In this episode, Samuel joins Steph and Beth for an honest conversation about how his physical and emotional scars led him to a new understanding of the universality of suffe...
What is Cancel Culture?
December 11, 2020 13:00 - 36 minutes - 25.1 MBWhat does it mean to “cancel” someone? Why does it happen and who gets to decide? Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about canceling, boycotting, and harnessing the power of group think on social media. They talk specifically about JK Rowling and questions about her support for transgender individuals, but also about the broader question of why we want to cancel the people we disagree with on political or social issues. And, what do we do about celebrities like Bill Cosby and Michael...
The Moment I Realized My Dad's Not Superman
December 04, 2020 12:00 - 37 minutes - 25.8 MBWhen we are young children, we think our parents are practically super-human. We think they can do no wrong. We think they follow the rules, especially the ones they set. But, at some point, we realize they are just humans who make mistakes and sometimes break the rules—even rules they come up with themselves. When Steph was 14-years old, her father revealed that he had another daughter; a child born before he met Steph’s mom. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about how our own self...
Letting Go of Ideas that Don't Work (with Betsy)
November 27, 2020 13:00 - 42 minutes - 29.4 MBSteph and Beth are joined by Rev. Betsy Ouellette Zierden for an honest conversation about how we tend to hold onto ideas that we know don’t work. Sometimes we have ideas about the Bible, God, our family of origin, or even ourselves that help us for a time, but then get in our way. Steph had to let go of her ideas about the importance of job security in order to leave her job at Apple and launch her full-time DIY business. Betsy, an ordained elder in the United Methodist Church, had to let g...
Can I be Thankful for My Scars?
November 20, 2020 12:00 - 32 minutes - 22.3 MBLife is a mixture of the good and bad. Sometimes the tough experiences leave scars—physical and emotional—but those experiences also form who we are. Scars are reminders of the hard moments and tough experiences, but they also prove that we are capable of healing. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about their scars and the gratitude they feel for the healing those scars represent, both physical and emotional. Buy the host a coffee and/or tea: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/dospod — F...
Great Minds Think, Different?
November 13, 2020 12:00 - 50 minutes - 34.7 MBA conspiracy theory used to mean an idea that was completely on the fringe, but today it seems there are a growing number of conspiracy theories and an increasing number of people willing to take them at face value. To explore this phenomenon, Steph and Beth go inside their own experiences with conspiracy theories. For many years, Steph believed the moon landing was a hoax. Similarly, when Beth’s children were young she worried there was a link between autism and vaccines. How did they navig...
Why you not in kitchen? Go make food.
November 06, 2020 11:00 - 46 minutes - 32.3 MBIn Steph’s work as a DIY’er on YouTube she often gets comments telling her to get back in the kitchen. The title Episode 57 comes straight from one of those comments. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about what’s at the heart of these comments and why they aren’t okay. Do the men who make these comments realize how insecure it makes them sound? Do they realize how demeaning it is to suggest that a woman’s “place” is in the kitchen? What’s the deal with the idea of a “resting B___ f...
Can a Conservative and Liberal have an Honest Conversations? (with Daniel)
October 30, 2020 11:00 - 55 minutes - 38.4 MBIn these highly polarized times, can people with completely different political views have an honest conversation? Is there value in this kind of conversation? Steph and Beth invite Steph’s friend Daniel back to the podcast. He’s a conservative with well-researched and strongly-held opinions who was willing to give it a try. They talk about some tools that are helpful when engaging with people who disagree and then delve into tough issues including white supremacy, abortion, and the 2020 Pre...
I'm Struggling.
October 23, 2020 10:00 - 34 minutes - 23.5 MBSometimes we just have to say it: life is a lot right now. From COVID-19 to the upcoming election, our relationships are strained, our nerves are fried, and our personal emotional reserves are nearly depleted. Differing political viewpoints and differing ideas about public health have always existed, so what is it about this particular season that makes it feel heavier? In this episode, Steph shares her decision to fire her long-time recovery sponsor and how that led to an incident of self-h...
The Masks We Wear
October 16, 2020 11:00 - 42 minutes - 29.5 MBWe each have different hats we wear at work and at home, but do we also wear masks that hide who we truly are? Are there times when it is healthy and appropriate to hide our feelings? Steph and Beth have an honest conversation wearing masks and why it’s important not to wear a mask so long you lose track of who you are. Steph asks if we can safely put on the mask for the person we want to be (like we would dress for the job we want) or is that unhealthy? Beth realizes, almost mid-sentence, t...
How "Money" Scars Do You Have?
October 09, 2020 11:00 - 46 minutes - 32.2 MBMoney is something that is essential and yet it’s one of those things we are taught not to talk about. In fact, culture says it’s downright rude to discuss money. The reality is many of us are carrying around money scars. Steph and Beth both share honestly about the money messages communicated to them as they were growing up. Beth gently teases Steph about Steph’s excellent credit score, and shares a life hack for how she recently gained fifty additional points on her credit score. This is a...
What If My Dreams Come True?
October 02, 2020 11:00 - 51 minutes - 35.7 MBSteph and Beth have an honest conversation about dreaming big and being ready for your dreams to come true. They talk about whether there is a difference between an idea, a goal, and a dream. They also address the reality that we sometimes let other people discourage our dreams. Steph and Beth both share about dreams that have come true and some that are still in the “maybe” phase. They offer Questions for Reflection for you to think about how dreaming big applies to you and they close the s...
Wait, There's Two of You? (with Pam & Paula)
September 25, 2020 11:00 - 38 minutes - 26.4 MBFor the first time ever, Steph and Beth host two special guests at the same time, twin sisters Pam Bates and Paula Patty. Steph and Beth ask all the questions you’ve ever wanted to ask twins, but were afraid to ask. Do they sometimes feel each other’s pain? Do they have the same likes and dislikes? Pam and Paula have just released their first book, The Most Amazing Harvest: The Man Behind the Story. The book is the story of an amazing community event that happened when Pam’s late husband Car...
Forgive, and Forget?
September 18, 2020 11:00 - 32 minutes - 22.4 MBShow hosts, Stephanie Kostopoulos and Beth Demme, share their experience with forgiveness. They talk about why there are times it is more powerful to forgive and remember than it is to forgive and forget. Also, we sometimes think of forgiveness as a response to an apology, but Steph and Beth have discovered that forgiveness isn’t necessarily tied to an apology. In fact, they’ve discovered that forgiveness is a choice. A choice that is powerful when applied to others, and ourselves. Full tra...
Making Room for Silence
September 11, 2020 10:00 - 31 minutes - 21.8 MBSteph and Beth have an honest conversation about silence. They reflect on why it’s important to have silence, but why it can be hard to come by. Steph loves to be in the quiet of the woods, but Beth tends to be a verbal processor who’s never really in silence because of a condition called Tinnitus. They also talk about why we tend to avoid silence. Is it because it seems heavy (like a moment of silence), lonely, or even boring? If so, what are we missing out on when we fill every space? Are ...
Is it OK to Feel Sorry for Someone?
September 04, 2020 11:00 - 32 minutes - 22.5 MBSteph and Beth have an honest conversation about the difference between empathy and pity. Why do we feel sorry for people, and how do we communicate those feelings? How can we communicate empathy in a way that builds relationships instead of cutting off communication? Steph and Beth reflect on how it has felt to receive pity from other people and how that has informed the way they communicate to others. They also discuss how examining why we pity another person can produce self-awareness and...
The Scars of a Lifelong Illness (with Daniel)
August 28, 2020 11:00 - 44 minutes - 30.3 MBIn Episode 47, Steph and Beth are joined by special guest, Daniel Kuykendall. Steph and Daniel worked together at Apple about a decade ago and they’ve been friends ever since. Daniel is a commercial photographer and videographer, but he’s a guest on this episode to talk about something much more personal—his life as a Type 1 Diabetic. This is an honest conversation about the emotional and financial costs of a lifelong illness. Daniel shares openly about what life is like with an insulin pump...
Losing Someone, During a Pandemic
August 21, 2020 11:00 - 36 minutes - 25.2 MBIn Episode 46, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about what it’s like to lose someone during a pandemic. There has been a lot of attention on COVID deaths—rightly so—but how has COVID changed our grieving process even when COVID is not the cause of death? Steph shares stories about her grandmother who passed away (not from COVID) on the morning this episode was recorded. Beth talks about how COVID has disrupted funerals and memorial service rituals we normally rely on. COVID is a sh...
me f*ing too
August 14, 2020 11:00 - 52 minutes - 36.3 MBIn Episode 45, Steph and Beth talk about the #MeToo movement and some of their #MeToo moments. They explore when the movement started and how they became aware of it. They have a healthy discussion about what they each think the phrase “sexual harassment” means (or doesn’t). Steph shares about being at an industry event and being touched inappropriately by an executive. Beth shares how memories of #MeToo moments from years ago linger and wonders out loud if her 40-something self would respon...
Why Can't You See My Scars?
August 07, 2020 12:00 - 42 minutes - 29.3 MBIn Episode 44, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about the pain of invisible emotional scars. If we break a bone, it gets set in a cast and no one doubts our pain. No one can see our emotional scars, but they manifest in a variety of ways. The cast tells the world we need to heal, but there’s nothing to signal our need for emotional healing—or is there? Steph and Beth talk about reacting to bad drivers and what to do when customer service becomes customer dis-service. Also, how does...
I Was "That" Christian (with Jamie)
July 31, 2020 12:00 - 47 minutes - 32.7 MBIn Episode 43, Steph and Beth are joined by Jamie Kocur, author of My CCM Soundtracked Life: How I Became Disillusioned With the Music That Once Captivated Me. Jamie grew up a church-goer, but in her teens she became the kind of Christian who listened to only CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) and minimized her exposure to secular influences. She says she was “quietly judgmental” during that time. Working with the African Children’s Choir, she experienced a spontaneous, personal form of wors...
Why Everyone Hates Lawyers
July 24, 2020 11:00 - 53 minutes - 37 MBIn Episode 42, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about Beth’s first career choice—lawyer. It seems like people love to hate lawyers, until they need one. They talk about everything from OJ Simpson to Casey Anthony to downloading a will from the internet (Spoiler Alert: Don’t Do That!). Are lawyers all in it just for the money, or is there something else driving them? Why did Beth choose to become a lawyer? What are some of the differences between criminal law and civil law? What kin...
How Siri Taught Me to Ask for What I Want
July 17, 2020 11:00 - 45 minutes - 31.5 MBIn Episode 41, Steph and Beth explore the art of asking for what you want. You have to know what you want in order to ask for it. Voice assistants like Siri, and Alexa (Steph and Beth’s favorite!) can only respond to a command when it is clearly stated. This translates into our human interactions, too. Whether you are dealing with a boss, a co-worker, a vendor, or even a sub-contractor on a home improvement project, you have to know what you want so you can clearly communicate your expectati...
How Working for Disney Took 10 Years Off My Life
July 10, 2020 11:00 - 48 minutes - 33.6 MBIn Episode 40, Steph shares how working for Disney took ten years off her life. She initially worked at a show, but when she was chosen to be a cast member for a ride, everything changed. The stakes were much higher. Guest safety meant that there were times when Steph had to literally make a life and death decision in a split-second. Disney fans will love to hear what it’s like behind the magic. But even if you aren’t a Disney aficionado, you’ll relate to this story about what it’s like when...
What We Have Learned by Listening #BlackLivesMatter
July 03, 2020 12:00 - 45 minutes - 31.4 MBIn Episode 39, Steph and Beth reflect on what they have learned so far from the Black Lives Matter Movement. They both recognize that, as white women, they have a lot to learn and that refusing to learn allows racism to continue unchallenged. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about Juneteenth, Defund the Police, White Fragility, the effects of “Law and Order” government, and more. They also talk about how Steph’s mental hospital experience supports the idea that the police are being...
Period. (with Beth's Daughter)
June 26, 2020 11:00 - 45 minutes - 31.1 MBIn Episode 38, Beth’s 16-year-old daughter joins Steph and Beth for an honest conversation about something that half the world’s population will deal with at some point—periods. Despite Beth’s reluctance, they tackle this from the perspective of three women in three different generations (Gen X, Millennial, and Gen Z). From Are You There God, It’s Me Margaret? to birth control pills, body shame, and even menopause, what do they share and what is unique to each generation? Is this something m...
She's a Pastor, Yeah, I Said SHE
June 19, 2020 11:00 - 40 minutes - 28 MBIn Episode 37, Steph and Beth celebrate Beth’s Seminary graduation by talking about gender and calling. They share their experiences as women in male-dominated fields and how they handle internet trolls. They also have an honest conversation about the fact that some denominations do not allow women to preach and teach. Why is Beth a pastor even though the Bible says at 1 Timothy 2:12 that women can’t be pastors? Is Beth ignoring the Bible? Beth shares her experiences as a female pastor, incl...
Self-Injury, an honest conversation
June 12, 2020 11:00 - 33 minutes - 22.9 MBIn Episode 36, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about non-suicidal self-injury (NSSI). This is one of many unhealthy coping mechanisms people deal with, and it is one Steph has personal experience with. Steph shares how it feels when abuse causes a disconnect between brain and heart and why that sometimes leads to self-injury. This is an honest, and vulnerable, conversation about how and why we sometimes do things we don’t understand. Full transcript and show notes here: https://...
The Scars of Being Black in America (with Ashley)
June 05, 2020 12:00 - 42 minutes - 29 MBIn Episode 35, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation with software engineer and DIY Blogger, Ashley Basnight, about #BlackLivesMatter. Recognizing that they, as two white women, definitely do NOT have all the answers, Steph and Beth reached out to Ashley with their uncomfortable questions. The three have an authentic conversation about why All Lives Matter is an insensitive and inappropriate response to #BlackLivesMatter, why protesting is important, why rioting and looting are happenin...
Anxiety is Stupid.
May 29, 2020 12:00 - 29 minutes - 20.5 MBIn Episode 34, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about anxiety. Steph shares about a recent panic attack and how it was different from what she’s experienced in the past. Although anxiety and depression sometimes occur together, that isn’t always the case. Steph shares what’s on her “Anxiety List”— her go-to strategies when she experiences another panic attack. Her healthy toolkit includes a variety of strategies such as drinking water, calling a friend, using a weighted blanket, or...
Are You The Authority on YOU?
May 22, 2020 11:00 - 27 minutes - 18.7 MBIn Episode 33, Steph and Beth return to their regularly scheduled programming after an 8-week series about the coronavirus pandemic. This episode is an honest conversation about why it’s important to be the authority on yourself. It’s important, but also difficult. Self-awareness takes courage! Steph and Beth talk about times they lacked the courage to really know themselves and what helped move them forward. What distracts us from self-awareness and what are the fears that derail us? How do...
Eight Weeks In: It Took A Pandemic To...
May 15, 2020 11:00 - 28 minutes - 19.6 MBIn Episode 32, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about what the pandemic has done to them ... in a good way. Why did it take a pandemic for Beth to feel rested? Why did it take a pandemic for Steph to truly enjoy her porch? How has the pandemic let you go of things you thought were non-negotiable or absolutely essential, like eating in restaurants? Steph and Beth even realize it took a pandemic for them to do not only a podcast series, but to move the podcast into weekly production!...
Seven Weeks In: Is It Really Over?
May 08, 2020 10:00 - 29 minutes - 20.4 MBIn Episode 31, recorded on May 6, 2020, Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about states reopening in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. Why are we acting like this is all over when … it isn’t? If reopening is important, isn’t it important that we do it well? Can’t we all agree that masks are just pants for your face and everyone should be wearing one in public? Full transcript and show notes here: https://dospod.us/e31 Words we use: https://dospod.us/words Voicemail & text: (850...
Six Weeks In: From Here to There (with Charlene)
May 01, 2020 11:00 - 32 minutes - 22.3 MBIn Episode 30, recorded on April 29, 2020, Steph and Beth are joined by Charlene Garrett of Global Outreach and GOinnovation. Charlene works with missionaries and NGO’s in several countries throughout the world. She joins Steph and Beth for an honest conversation about how this pandemic is impacting everyday life globally. As we all stay “safer at home,” our perspective can be severely reduced. News reports don’t always help because they are focused on the progression of the disease or the p...
Five Weeks In: Ok.
April 24, 2020 12:00 - 35 minutes - 24.3 MBIn Episode 29, recorded on April 22, 2020, Steph and Beth talk about the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Five+ weeks in, we’ve all endured a significant amount of change. Steph and Beth have an honest conversation about how shocking it all is, what habits this time has helped them break, and what new habits they hope will continue post-quarantine. Full transcript and show notes here: https://dospod.us/e29 Words we use: https://dospod.us/words Voicemail & text: (850) 270-3308