We got to dive off the deep end into this hopelessly hopeful conversation with Nick Ditchburn,  Co-founder of Damn Thieves.

This conversation was a gift to be a part of.  We discussed all things mental health,  creating community through conversations, re-building male archetypes & societal expectations, finding meaning in what you do & stepping back into your passion & creativity after a hiatus. 

Nick shared with us what inspired himself, and Damn Thieves co-founder Tony, to put their bodies on the line to fundraise for Mental Health organisations Gumboot Friday & I am Hope.  

And as much as we dove deep into important topics we had a damn good laugh along the way, and reminded ourselves of the importance of remembering to infuse a sense of play into life!

We also yarned about:

How children change your view on the world and how you move through itLosing a friend to suicide & the profound effect it can hav on youAnxiety & finding a way throughWhat we will tolerate & what we won'tDiscerning your own truth HealingAltruismStarting a not for profitSerendipity & "luck", how they show up when you start stepping into your purposeWe're all agents of changeHow the hardest things we do can sometimes end up being the easiest


And we finished up on three important life rules:  remaining hopelessly hopeful, being kind & not being rude to waiters!

Big love Jax & Kim

Trigger alert: suicide is discussed in a part of this episode, if it raises anything for you or you need emotional support please txt 1737 in NZ for Lifeline, or visit www.findahelpline.com to find a contact number for emotional support for the country you live in.