Undressing Underground/Platonic Polyamory
151 episodes - English - Latest episode: 11 days ago - ★★★★★ - 7 ratingsA new series for an older podcast feed than yours. Started as a way to talk to people making weird shit on the fringes of the underground, then splitting time with a series of interviews with Gawker commenters, then just weird Christmas music and audio experiments, then interviews with LGBTQIA and POC artists about their feelings about the Trump presidency, then the obscenely pointless series "We Are Podcasting in a Room", and now Platonic Polyamory cohosts Rob Marvin, Jennifer C. Martin, and Brandon Dumais continue the original mission. Sort of.
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PPA - Jazmin Castañeda Pt 2
April 19, 2024 17:29 - 41 minutes - 75.4 MBPart two of our conversation with Jazmin, this time more focused on her own story and artwork. We learn about the origins of some of her recurring characters, her highly personal work with her father, and what it's like teaching art to elementary school kids these days. Be sure to check out Jazmin's work on her Instagram, but also please do stop by her fundraiser for Palestine if you're around LA on 4/27/2024. More info below, but you can also check out the official flyer on her instagram. ...
PPA - A Fundraiser for Palestine w/ Jazmin Castañeda
April 12, 2024 15:00 - 29 minutes - 54.3 MBWe talk to artist Jazmin about her Fundraiser for Palestine set to take place at the Matilija Lending Library in El Monte, CA (near LA) on Saturday 4/27. We focus almost entirely on the fundraiser in this episode. Next week we'll have more about Jazmin's background as an artist and the usual bullshit about reality shows, Jennifer's weird life, etc. For more info on the fundraiser, check out this flyer on Jazmin's's Instagram. For more info on Jazzzyyy, just click back to the rest of her In...
PPA - A Fundraiser for Palestine w/ Jazzzyyy
April 12, 2024 15:00 - 29 minutes - 54.3 MBWe talk to artist Jazzzyyy about her Fundraiser for Palestine set to take place at the Matilija Lending Library in El Monte, CA (near LA) on Saturday 4/27. We focus almost entirely on the fundraiser in this episode. Next week we'll have more about Jazzy's background as an artist and the usual bullshit about reality shows, Jennifer's weird life, etc. For more info on the fundraiser, check out this flyer on Jazzzyyy's Instagram. For more info on Jazzzyyy, just click back to the rest of her I...
PPA - Poet Anthony Thomas Lombardi Pt. 2
March 30, 2024 18:56 - 54 minutes - 99 MBPart two of our conversation with Anthony Thomas Lombardi in which we delve more into how he got into poetry, rap music, God, and his involvement with different facets of the Free Palestine movement. For more on the latter, check out the Google Doc he references in the episode. For more on his poetry and Anthony in general, check out his Instagram. For more on us, subscribe or listen to old episodes. I'm walking out the door and don't feel like looking up links.
PPA - Brooklyn Poet Anthony Thomas Lombardi
March 16, 2024 15:33 - 48 minutes - 88.9 MBToday is the first part of our talk with an old friend of mine, the poet Anthony Lombardi. We've known each other for about 16 or 17 years (he takes poetic license to claim 20) but have lost touch several times, only for him to reemerge in a completely different stage of his life. Now he's a poet, sober, and thriving (if you ask me, not him). He regularly performs around New York, teaches several courses on poetry and film, published all over, has another book coming out in 2025, and he's g...
PPA - Leslie Keffer Pt 2
February 23, 2024 22:01 - 46 minutes - 85.2 MBThe second half of our conversation with esteemed noise musician Leslie Keffer. In this part we talk about noise music (of course), touring, stained glass, and spend a good chunk talking about AI. Nothing anti-AI this time. Sorry. Same opening and closing tracks as last time since I've got a lot going on and didn't have time. But still be sure to check out Leslie's Bandcamp page, No Part Of It's Bandcamp, and, I dunno, google around about her. She's been around a while and done a ton of i...
PPA - Leslie Keffer (Noise Musician)
February 11, 2024 21:50 - 43 minutes - 73.1 MBWe finally had just enough of a break from all the horrible, complicated, and annoying things in our lives to sit down and talk to esteemed noise musician, and mutual friend of Arvo Zylo, Leslie Keffer. We talk about how she got into noise music, touring, and some about her process, but the Zoom's AI that Jennifer discovered probably gives a good of a synopsis of the overall conversation as I can: Based on the meeting transcript, the conversation seems to be casual and meandering, covering ...
PPA - Rob's old friend, a die-hard Disco Biscuits fan
January 13, 2024 18:59 - 1 hour - 104 MBNot really sure how to title this because we don't want to give his name considering the stuff we discuss. But this is one of my oldest friends, someone I used to travel around with to festivals and to see the Dead, but who has lived a much more interesting life than me. He notes that he's seen the Disco Biscuits live more times than there are days in a year. Following bands is a bizarre and hilarious subculture that I have enjoyed in small doses and have always loved hearing about. If you'...
2023 Xmas Exchange (with Jill & Josh)
December 22, 2023 23:32 - 1 hour - 227 MBAfter this year, I'm done tempting fate. We're calling this the Xmas Exchange now. I also don't remember how many we've done, so I'm done trying to figure that out. Anyway, we're back with Josh and Jill for our annual exchange of the best, worst, weirdest, funniest, and most interesting Christmas music and clips we could compile. This year Josh and Jill really leaned into the worst, but they've got a handful of nice bits I'll be including in future Christmas mixtapes I force upon my friends...
PPA - Bullshitting with Kelly of Indubitably
August 20, 2023 14:47 - 55 minutes - 90.6 MBJust like evolution will inevitably lead to crabs, our conversations will inevitably lead to breast milk and cannibalism. We discussed cell steaks, again, but also veggie burgers, idiosyncratic small towns across America, the Pacific Northwest, and Brandon and I both got incredibly excited by the mention of the old Hentai theater in Portland. If you enjoy hearing from Kelly and find yourself curious about non-right wing debate culture, please do check out her podcast Indubitably over at Po...
PPA - Kelly of the Indubitably Podcast
August 04, 2023 21:43 - 58 minutes - 94.4 MBHello, we're back. I moved and my cat got cancer, Brandon got a job, and Jennifer quit hers, so... here we are. Now. Instead of earlier. This week we had Kelly from the podcast Indubitably talk to us about debating and how she does it without crying. And who wins if someone does cry. Honestly, I think we were all sort of surprised how interesting we found debate. It's become an easy topic to dismiss due to the rise of the disingenuous right wing debate culture, but Kelly makes a formidable ...
PPA - Brandon Noel (Olney Magazine) Pt 2
June 24, 2023 16:02 - 57 minutes - 93.6 MBPart two of our talk with Brandon Noel about his working class background, poetry, and Olney Magazine. Plus a little more about religion, but not much. We also talk about how reality TV is made. Olney recently released their fifth issue, which you can pick up on their website as a $5 PDF or the print version for $17.99. It's worth picking up just for our very own Jennifer C Martin's cover story on her alma mater, "Lee University and the on campus treatment of its LGTBQ+ student." You can le...
PPA - Brandon Noel (Olney Magazine) Pt 1
June 15, 2023 00:08 - 55 minutes - 90.2 MBWe brought Brandon Noel on to talk about his working class background, poetry, and Olney Magazine, but our Brandon and I can't stop fucking talking about religion. So, in this part Brandon Noel speaks primarily about how he founded his own church in his early 20s, his amusingly pedantic theory on the "existence" of God, and then we talk a little about Hoarders before I have to cut it off to prevent this episode from going on two hours. Next week Jennifer forces us to talk about Brandon Noel...
PPA - Melissa Guevara (El Salvadoran Multi-Media Artist) (English/Spanish Version)
June 02, 2023 00:10 - 40 minutes - 65.8 MBHi, hello, sorry, yes, we're late again. I hope this edit makes sense because I'm still too busy to start from scratch. But this edit cuts out most of Ileana and leaves Melissa's answers intact for any bilingual listeners. I'm sure our reactions aren't going to really make sense. Sorry. If you skipped the last episode, here's a recap of the description, lightly edited because Tripp Nasty had to cancel his tour. Good hello again and sorry again for the delay. Life is hard, but it goes on, w...
PPA - Melissa Guevara (El Salvadoran Multi-Media Artist) (English Version)
May 14, 2023 17:45 - 41 minutes - 68.6 MBGood hello again and sorry again for the delay. Life is hard, but it goes on, whether I want it to or not. Today on the show we talk to a mutual friend of former guests Ileana and Ernesto Bautista, Melissa Guevara. Her and Ernesto's work have a lot of overlaps (death, experimental video, large conceptual pieces, focus on El Salvadoran history and issues like immigration), but also we tried to focus a little more on her own unique perspectives and approaches. We discuss all of the above, bu...
PPA - Bullshitting with Christian Chiakulas
April 21, 2023 20:14 - 37 minutes - 34.9 MBWe talked to Christian about a month ago about this book, The Carpenter's Son: A Proletarian Reconstruction of the Jesus of Nazareth. Afterward we talked for another 45 minutes about a bunch of bullshit, as we generally do. So, we've started recording that, cause, why not. The episode starts off where the last left off, with Jennifer and Christian's thoughts on the future of leftism in Christianity, but then we just start talking about pizza and cheese steaks and buying cigarettes in Indian...
PPA - The Carpenter's Son w/ Christian Chiakulas
April 07, 2023 22:14 - 56 minutes - 52.1 MBHappy Good Friday, if that's something I'm supposed to say. For our Easter special we've got Jennifer's friend, author Christian Chiakulas talking to us about the Jesus guy everyone's talking about right now. I'd offer a synopsis of his book, but the title The Carpenter's Son: A Proletarian Reconstruction of Jesus of Nazareth, seems to cover the basics. Needless to say, Brandon was very excited and had a ton of questions involving dialectics, materialism, and other terms I only barely compre...
PPA - Ernesto Bautista (El Salvadoran Multimedia Artist) Pt. 2
February 25, 2023 16:08 - 58 minutes - 53.9 MBPart 2 of our chat with El Salvadoran director, poet, musician, multimedia artist, etc. etc. etc., Ernesto Bautista. In this part he discusses his work with his old collective, organizing a soccer match between survivors of both sides in the El Salvadoran Civil War. He also digs a little deeper into the flourishing metal scene in El Salvador, including the effects of the president's current crackdown on "gang members" that has resulted in the profiling and arrest of many in the scene. The o...
PPA - Ernesto Bautista (El Salvadoran Multimedia Artist) Pt. 1
February 17, 2023 20:57 - 55 minutes - 51.5 MBToday on the show we talk to filmmaker, poet, and multimedia artist Ernesto Bautista, who I almost certainly mispronounce the name of in my introduction despite Ileana sending me a WhatsApp message with the correct pronunciation. I still can't say her name either, though. As I mention in the intro and we discuss a little later on in the episode, Ernesto was introduced to us by a mutual friend and our former guest, Ileana. You can hear more about her in our previous episode, Au Pair Nightmar...
4th or 5th Cease & Desistmas Christmas Special
December 23, 2022 17:13 - 1 hour - 70.7 MBAnother year, another collection of strange, terrible, funny, and sometimes lovely Christmas songs from all over the world and throughout the last 100 years of recorded sound. I (Rob) am joined as every other year by my buddies Jill and Josh. We had to record this at midnight because Jill is back in Tokyo, Josh has added somewhere between 3 and 10 children to his house since last year, and I was at a double feature of terrible Christmas horror films. We didn't have the time to troubleshoot ...
PPA - Christmas Underground
December 09, 2022 22:25 - 1 hour - 132 MBWe were very excited to talk to the guy (forgot to ask his name) behind the blog christmasunderground.com, which is currently on its 10th year. People that know Brandon and I know we love Christmas music, though we tend toward Culturcide, The Frogs, and a guy impersonating Randy Newman performing "All I Want For Christmas Is You" on YouTube that got DMCA'd a few years back and now is impossible to find (outside of my hard drive). Jennifer likes the Sufjan Stevens albums and I'm actually not ...
PPA - AJ Dungo
November 11, 2022 16:32 - 1 hour - 120 MBFirst off, I had some internet issues, so the episode gets cut off at the end (like when we talked to Colin). Sorry! Second, I included some music cues to add context to a few points AJ and Brandon make (like when we talked to Laura and Tripp). Third, we talked to AJ. He's Brandon's friend going back to middle school when AJ'd tap on Brandon's window to ask him to skateboard. They've supported each other through their cultural journey through skateboarding, punk, and noise music and are no...
PPA - Julia Wright
October 23, 2022 19:58 - 1 hour - 116 MBToday we talked to Julia Wright, one of those practical effect weirdos that bloodies and bruises the actors in horror films and creates dead defecating dogs out of weaves and PVC pipe for short films. She's also Jennifer C Martin's sister. Brandon and Rob probe about why practical effects are better and seek out horror recommendations (she's got a couple good ones, one of which from Japan in 2005 that we'd never heard of) while her and Jennifer reminisce about disturbing shit from their chi...
PPA - Sara Von Century
October 02, 2022 16:59 - 1 hour - 131 MBSara Century's back on this podcast feed for the umpteenth time. This time we talked to her about the inherent queerness of horror, the lack of queerness of some modern LGBT horror, getting drunk in movie theaters, queerness and emotion in punk, and a bunch of other stuff. Sara knows everything, so there's a lot to talk about. Except comic books, cause we don't really care about super heroes. I guess we touch on it some. If you do want to hear Sara talk about comic books, check out her podc...
PPA - Sound of Confusion
September 25, 2022 16:53 - 58 minutes - 107 MBJennifer's gone viral again for her hot takes on polyamory and Christianity. This time her wealthy grandmother caught wind of it and cut her out of the will and the rest of her life. So, we talk about that. Partly because I fucked up scheduling again and Sara Century thought we were recording the following week, partly because Jennifer's life is endlessly interesting.
Platonic Polyamory's Mickey Reece's Platonic Polyamory
September 09, 2022 20:00 - 1 hour - 106 MBMickey Reece made it this week! As a bunch of scum sucking freaks, we all felt a kindred spirit in the DIY, and even the more recent sellout arthouse horror films of Mickey Reece. If you're unfamiliar with Mickey Reece, just know that he is probably 30-something years old, but his IMDB features 37 film and only 9 of them are available publicly. Because of this, his predilection for casual experimentation, and his remote origins in bumfuck, Oklahoma, the press has lavished him with all sorts...
PPA - Platonic Polyamory's Mickey Reece's Platonic Polyamory
September 09, 2022 20:00 - 1 hour - 106 MBMickey Reece made it this week! As a bunch of scum sucking freaks, we all felt a kindred spirit in the DIY, and even the more recent sellout arthouse horror films of Mickey Reece. If you're unfamiliar with Mickey Reece, just know that he is probably 30-something years old, but his IMDB features 37 film and only 9 of them are available publicly. Because of this, his predilection for casual experimentation, and his remote origins in bumfuck, Oklahoma, the press has lavished him with all sorts...
PPA - Waiting for Mickey
September 04, 2022 17:51 - 42 minutes - 76.8 MBI was listening to Desert Oracle recently and noticed he stopped using episode numbers and it occurred to me that if there's anything less pointless than naming these episodes, it's assigning them numbers. So, no more of that. This is a non-episode in which I fucked up scheduling our guest and he didn't show, so we talked about Tim Tebow and movies with weird thoughts on trans people. I also posted the zoom link on twitter out of curiosity and we got zoom bombed by some people who's only ho...
PPA - E8 - Aupair Nightmares w/ Ileana
August 12, 2022 13:27 - 1 hour - 121 MBWe talk to my old friend Ileana about her experience as a Mexican citizen working as an au pair in the United States for two years. It may shock you to learn that being a Mexican woman living in an American family's home while employed as a domestic worker is not great! Ileana discusses the long hours, low pay, the deceptive agencies that facilitate these matchups, and the bizarrely manipulative and boundary pushing actions of these American host families. It sucks. Great talk. Also, Brando...
PPA - E7 - Love, That's America w/ Laura Squirrel
July 17, 2022 16:39 - 1 hour - 108 MBLong delayed recording and now long delayed upload. Brandon and Jennifer were both somehow on vacation at the same time, then I was down for the count with intestinal issues, then Jennifer and I both had COVID, then I was down with intestinal issues again... and then they returned again after recording. But, here we are. As previously discussed here and in our 2015 documentary about her Indiana Noise Fest, I met Laura in 2015 because of said noise festival. She came out to me as a trans wom...
PPA - E6 - Physics, Noise, & Legal Trouble with Tripp Nasty
June 03, 2022 21:42 - 1 hour - 126 MBTripp Nasty takes us deep into the strange and scary world of Denver's alt music scene. Tripp discusses his history as a computer programmer(??) and future physicist(???) before recently going for his masters in accounting(????) all while developing a deep appreciation of sound and Moog's synthesizers. He also talks about landing in jail for two days during the pandemic (?????) and a Denver industrial band that landed in jail themselves after a prolonged harassment campaign of Tripp and othe...
PPA - E5 - The Suspicious Mind of Robert Skvaria
May 20, 2022 18:13 - 1 hour - 120 MBThe opening track is a bootleg recording of the Elvis impersonator fronted British Nirvana tribute act, Elvana. Enjoy. Today's guest is writer and conspiracy theorist aficionado Robert Skvaria. He helps us parse out the difference in approach between right-wing (bullshit) and left-wing (mostly true) conspiracies. We talk about Alex Jones, the CIA, FBI, and how religion both factors into different conspiracies and can be victimized by political conspiracies. It occurs to me now that we faile...
PPA - E4 - In the Mood for CinePunk Joshua Alvarez
May 01, 2022 15:31 - 1 hour - 137 MBThis podcast is called Platonic Polyamory now. For this episode Jennifer wanted Josh to pick out a movie for us to watch and discuss, but Josh didn't want to so I lied and said he picked Chungking Express because I knew she'd love it. And she did. Anyway, we tried to do the whole movie podcast thing like Cinepunx does but none of us are motivated or structured enough to actually plan something like that so we just fizzled out and talked about different forms of polyamory again. You can see ...
PPA - E3 - Walt Disney Presents "Colin"
April 09, 2022 18:21 - 1 hour - 136 MBWe're joined by Jennifer's ex-boyfriend CA Pinkham. We mostly talk about 90s toys and Walt Disney. Follow Colin on twitter @EyePatchGuy And friend me on Pokemon Go 6838 4763 3649
RGS - E6 - Walt Disney Presents "Colin"
April 09, 2022 18:21 - 136 MBWe're joined by Jennifer's ex-boyfriend CA Pinkham. We mostly talk about 90s toys and Walt Disney. Follow Colin on twitter @EyePatchGuy And friend me on Pokemon Go 6838 4763 3649
PPA - E2 - Your Music Sucks w/ Laura Squirrel
March 19, 2022 13:37 - 1 hour - 116 MBAn Undressing Underground regular joins us this week to explain noise music to Jennifer and the Get Along Gang (and her fan fiction about it) to all of us. We also talk about Anal Cunt (Jennifer's new favorite band), Eric Clapton, obscure midwest noise acts we know personally, Jennifer's OnlyFans and the paupers that patronize it, Joyful Noise Records, and whatever Laura's tangents are about. Features music by Laura's noise acts, Ghosts of Dead Tables and Kathy's Special Brownies as well as...
RGS - E5 - Your Music Sucks w/ Laura Squirrel
March 19, 2022 13:37 - 116 MBAn Undressing Underground regular joins us this week to explain noise music to Jennifer and the Get Along Gang (and her fan fiction about it) to all of us. We also talk about Anal Cunt (Jennifer's new favorite band), Eric Clapton, obscure midwest noise acts we know personally, Jennifer's OnlyFans and the paupers that patronize it, Joyful Noise Records, and whatever Laura's tangents are about. Features music by Laura's noise acts, Ghosts of Dead Tables and Kathy's Special Brownies as well as...
RGS - E2 - Cat Eyes
February 25, 2022 22:17 - 168 MBSome guy named Josh that follows Jennifer on Twitter tells us about the Christian lore permeating throughout the Insane Clown Posse's music. We also discuss the ethics of talking during previews, places Jennifer and Brandon have had sex, annoying poly identities, stuff our exes are sending each other money for on Venmo because they haven't removed us as friends, and we watch planes land in LA for a little bit.
Platonic Polyamory - E1 - Cat Eyes
February 25, 2022 22:17 - 1 hour - 168 MBThe first episode of our new series, Platonic Polyamory. Some guy named Josh that follows Jennifer on Twitter tells us about the Christian lore permeating throughout the Insane Clown Posse's music. We also discuss the ethics of talking during previews, places Jennifer and Brandon have had sex, annoying poly identities, stuff our exes are sending each other money for on Venmo because they haven't removed us as friends, and we watch planes land in LA for a little bit.
RJS - E2 - Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers
February 10, 2022 00:38 - 1 hour - 116 MBWe discus Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers. Also shortwave radio and some other stuff I can't remember. Don't forget to subscribe to Jennifer's newsletter, the Dirtbag Christian, and her baking themed Only Fans, Let's Have a Three Way.
The Royal Jenstones - E1 - Genesis
January 21, 2022 03:10 - 1 hour - 118 MBNew conversation. About the bible. Cause Jennifer's reading it. And writing about it. Read that here: https://dirtbagchristian.substack.com
Cease & Desistmas 2021
December 24, 2021 19:33 - 1 hour - 106 MBWe're back for the nth semi-annual Cease & Desistmas. This year Jill plays some traditional carols, a Pakistani Christmas song, and some space bullshit while I play a handful of selections from a Christmas cassette zine from an obscure 70s collective in LA, and once again Josh dredges up the most horrific bullshit on the internet with a couple of solid tracks intermixed. Merry Christmas, please don't sue me. Educational purposes only, etc.
Episode 21 - Alvin Lucier is Lying in a Box
December 03, 2021 22:49 - 1 hour - 218 MBAlvin Lucier died the day we recorded this. I explain his seminal piece... poorly. Then we listen to the first episode as played from Brandon's computer, picked up by his mic, and then recorded from my computer speakers with my mic. As always with this episode, taking the wrong lessons from avant garde greats. We're never gonna get that CIA seed money. In keeping with the spirit of this episode, here's what Wikipedia says about Lucier. Alvin Augustus Lucier Jr. (May 14, 1931 – December 1, ...
WAPIAR - E20 - EsperantNO/Ni podkastas en ĉambro
November 20, 2021 19:48 - 2 hours - 215 MBNi tradukis la skripton en Esperanton kaj legis ĝin fonetike. Ĝi estis torturo. Absoluta fika torturo. Mi neniam volas fari ion tian denove. Ĝi igis min bedaŭri komenci ĉi tiun podkaston en la unua loko. Kia ab.
WAPIAR - E19 - Yabba Dabba Dune
November 06, 2021 20:07 - 2 hours - 211 MBTalking about 9/11, Halloween, pooping in the woods, addiction, Princess Diana, the 90s Flinstones movies, cooking shows, polyamory, and whether this is the most nihilistic podcast there is. Don't forget to check out Jennifer's linktree: https://linktr.ee/jennifercmartin Also Brandon and I have a spooky and absurd radio play we put out digitally and on bootleg cassette: https://grayromantics.bandcamp.com/album/havana-syndrome
WAPIAR - E18 - Ladies & Gentlemen, The Smudge
October 19, 2021 23:42 - 1 hour - 157 MBBrandon, Jennifer, and Rob are joined by absurdly prolific noise/vaporwave/pluderphonics/rock/hiphop/blues/satire/neoclassical musician, poet, video game scorer, and recent documentary filmmaker, The Smudge. We brought him on to talk some shit, but mostly to score our 18th recital. I don't know what else to say. He likes french fries and Slavoj Žižek. If you like anything you hear, you can probably find 500 albums like it and 1500 others nothing like it at http://thesmudge.bandcamp.com Whi...
WAPIAR - E17 - SORRY
October 08, 2021 20:42 - 1 hour - 157 MBI fucked up. I accidentally turned off the recording for Brandon and Jennifer for about 10 minutes toward the end while Brandon was still reading. To make up for it I spliced in their mics from another episode to compliment my bare recording of myself and also threw in some audio of me taking a lovely little walk through New Brunswick this past Mother's Day.
WAPIAR - E15 - Bullshit, mostly
September 01, 2021 02:21 - 1 hour - 159 MBProbably the most pointlessly avant garde episode yet. We talk about Afghanistan, then Jennifer recites the entire episode while Brandon plays music and I breathe and try to communicate with him over her, then we talk about Bukowski.