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My guest is Anastasia Shown, a lecturer/global educator who has worked at the University of Pennsylvania and in Ghana, Cameroon & Ethiopa for many years. She joins me for a discussion about racism, the implications of the events of early June 2020 following the murder of George Floyd, in which tens of thousands of people of all races marched and protested in towns and cities across the United States and the world, demanding an end to white supremacy.