In this episode of Minds & Mics, I talk with Jay Clouse, the creator and host of one of my favorite podcasts, Creative Elements. Jay and I get into the details of creative overwhelm and burnout and how Jay manages it.


Show Notes

Here are some of the highlights from our conversation:

What does overwhelm actually look like for Jay?Hard works as a response to feeling overwhelmedRespect for deadlines as a core part of Jay’s identityJay’s approach to “de-scoping” his schedule and task list to combat overwhelmUnderestimating the maintenance cost of evergreen productsThe investment banker and the fishermanHow does Jay think about work-life balance and what enough looks like?Why it’s so hard to say no and let go?Cultural pressure to keep doing more and never let goHow Jay thinks about self-care and what it looks like when the “red light” is flashing.What it looks like to really show up emotionally for important people in his life.Has being a podcaster and community builder made Jay a better listener in his personal life?Jays biggest insecurity as a creator

You can learn more about Jay and his work here:

JayClouse.com (website)Creative Elements (podcast)Podcast Like the Pros (course)Upside (podcast)


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