Our Personal Growth Journey and Helping Others Along the Same Journey

Ethan and I discuss personal growth in relation to other people. How to serve others within your personal development journey. We discuss our journey a little and bettering ourselves. And how we are trying to help people who are running from pain or towards pleasure. Everyone is going through their own personal hell in some fashion.

We also talk about helping others start a business they're passionate about, potentially doing a live show, shaved heads, and more.

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[00:00:03] spk_1: Hey, what's up everybody? Welcome to the Life Next level podcast. You boy Ethan here

[00:00:10] spk_0: and J

[00:00:12] spk_1: and we're coming to you not live. I

[00:00:16] spk_0: wish it was alive man. That would be sweet. We should do that sometime Once we get a little more following alive would be pretty awesome. I follow some pretty good podcast and that kind of some someone like tour around and do live shows. It's pretty epic man.

[00:00:31] spk_1: Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah, I think it's a whole different, you know, exciting kind of feel to be, you know, it's like your own little radio show, right?

[00:00:41] spk_0: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We should do, we should also do like live on youtube streams, like a lot of places do. I'm just not quite prepared for that, I don't think. But

[00:00:54] spk_1: yeah, yeah, no, that is definitely something I never thought about doing 5, 10 years ago. I mean maybe five years ago, I don't know about 10 years old.

[00:01:04] spk_0: Um yeah man, it's going good actually. I just got, we're just talking about a little bit but I just got vaccinated and you know I went well I got the johnson and johnson variety so just one and done. But

[00:01:16] spk_1: yeah a little bit.

[00:01:17] spk_0: I don't know if groggy is the right word but you know I didn't have too many effects like nothing nothing big. Like some people I talked to her in bed at least like the whole next day especially after like a fighter when they got the second shot it seemed um yeah I've been groggy nothing like debilitating or anything so I was a little bit worried about that but my arm hurt so working always a little bit interesting today but it's all good.

[00:01:40] spk_1: Yeah I just got to slap your way through it.

[00:01:42] spk_0: Huh,

[00:01:47] spk_1: chilling man. Yeah I mean it's a classic classic human. Uh Well the weather but it's hot here bro. I mean I know that you're dealing with Arizona heat but yeah it's pretty it's been it's been a hot hot flash out here.

[00:02:04] spk_0: I heard that man hurt his hot and human. Yeah actually it's been this week it's actually been under 100. But you for the past two weeks it's been like pretty much consistently one of five and next week is looking like consistently 1 10 to 1 15. But you know it's hot for sure but it's it's more of a dry heat you know so we don't get that humidity so it's it's I don't know it's tolerable to me but um I've lived in heat for a while now so I just don't stay out there too long. So many places I go, it was usually a few blocks away and that's all good. So

[00:02:42] spk_1: that's the yeah it's about the threshold about how far I can move before. Except not really.

[00:02:48] spk_0: The threshold is not a block. The

[00:02:50] spk_1: threshold is like 10

[00:02:51] spk_0: steps for me before

[00:02:54] spk_1: I need a different shirt.

[00:02:56] spk_0: Yeah, I remember that about

[00:02:59] spk_1: you go. Yeah. Goes it's even worse than your old man.

[00:03:06] spk_0: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Nothing nothing to mop up that sweat

[00:03:12] spk_1: five rows in your beard. So

[00:03:14] spk_0: yeah. All right. So what are we talking about today?

[00:03:19] spk_1: Uh We are talking about how to basically have his personal development relate to other people. Um or how you can look at your personal development pursuits in a way where it would pertain to the benefit of other people as well. Does that does that make sense? Sound sound eloquent and now

[00:03:44] spk_0: yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Um Just to just to add a little bit about that, uh I think that so you and I have talked a lot and we probably talked about it on this podcast about a few of the things that that I went through and why I'm on my journey. What kind of triggered it? And uh I think as I, as I went through that, like, bettering myself, um I started to want to be in the service of other people uh or maybe at the beginning stages of the journey that I was going through and hopefully I can help them to cross that bridge. The way I look at it, like, I always talk with my hands. So I guess a Youtube channel would be would be a good thing, has always been talking about my hands on here. But uh like, so there's, you know, I look at it like there's a path, like say a hill and everyone gets stuck in this rough at some point, something happens something, either something that there's some, some form of pain that they're running away from maybe like a divorce or a bad breakup or getting let go from a job potentially, or they're running towards a pleasure. Oftentimes it's both, you know, a pain makes you run towards a pleasure. Like you're running towards happiness or having more meaning in your life, or for me, it was something painful that I then was running towards something pleasurable. Um and you know, that journey can take a lot of time, especially when you don't know what the hell you're doing. You know, I read tons of books I took a ton, of course is um you know, and they're all good for different reasons, but, but I found the best was when somebody had been through and I was talking to them like I got coached through stuff and so that's kind of why if you can build like a bridge from Point A to POINT B. So they don't have to go through that rock. So something happens. And there's something there a course or personal coaching or something to help them to get to the other side via a bridge, rather than getting in that rut and getting lost in themselves and getting from Point A to POINT B. And that's kind of the way I look at it. So, you know, people, people were of service to me when I was going through it, and then I want to be able service to people. And so that's kind of how I look at the things that I'm doing. You know, I'm creating these courses now, I'm writing a couple of books, we're doing this podcast, which to me is because you and I have kind of been through stuff and we're trying to get to the other side of stuff, or we have gotten to the other side of stuff, you know, we started like businesses and we've done all this stuff and we want to help people to be able to do that

[00:06:15] spk_1: totally. So

[00:06:16] spk_0: that was incredibly long winded answer, but that's kind of how I view um what we're talking about today. So

[00:06:22] spk_1: yeah, no, it's important. I mean it's detail is important, it's all about the details sometimes. Uh Yeah, man. No, for sure. Well, I think it's cool because it's uh easy to, in my mind, at least look at it in terms of that personal development, uh you can develop anywhere and that development work that you do can absolutely like any development that you do can pertain to other people, you know, uh because everybody's got their stuff that they're interested in. Uh So like you know, I think a lot of times you or a person looks at personal development in terms of like oh what's how do I make myself better or you know whatever and that's you know, that's cool, but also it's just you know kind of like looking up recipes uh and figuring out you know, things that work for you, you know um in order to eat or something like that for example uh is developing and I think if you do that sometimes it's cool because if you spend any time or in any way share that you're then helping somebody else, you know? But really I just think yeah the stuff that a person is interested in, it's a reason to pursue whatever you're interested in. Uh and to not worry about, should I be pursuing this thing or that thing if you want to do that, go ahead. Because whatever kind of, learning that you do in that arena, you can share with other people who um haven't haven't learned those things that, you know. So, yeah,

[00:07:55] spk_0: absolutely, Absolutely. I mean, it's crazy how many courses and books and live coaching sessions of certain topics are out there. I mean, anything from, um, you know, people that have, like, I'm trying to think of, uh I was actually just looking at one, I don't have it with my friend, my friend's baby at it. Uh it's not a it's like a, you know, that dry skin um boy

[00:08:21] spk_1: eczema,

[00:08:22] spk_0: eczema. Yeah, yeah. That can atia, that's like, that's an herb or something, right?

[00:08:27] spk_1: I

[00:08:28] spk_0: was close though.

[00:08:29] spk_1: Yeah, yeah.

[00:08:31] spk_0: I mean, that's a big deal, especially for a kid. Like, that's that's, you know, there's a course up there that tells you step by step, some things that can hell your kid from the inside out, uh you know, based on what they're eating and stuff that will help with that condition. So there's, you know, there's to your point recipes, how about like you find that niche of people that you want to serve, which which a lot of times for me to, it's it's me from 5 to 10 years ago, is who I'm so I'm looking to serve because I fell into a rut, I fell in deprived. Yeah, I fell into like kind of a depression, you know, I won't say a hit rock bottom, but I was definitely trending that way. And, you know, I got picked up and now I want to find people at the, at the front of that and and help them to get picked up as well. Um Well that's one of them and another is, you know, like we've started a business, I've started a couple other business to help people start businesses and I still am. Um and I'd really like to help people create businesses they're passionate about, and a lot of that comes down to service as well um because people want to help other people go through things that they went through. So you think about like a busy, busy single mom for example, so maybe someone that's listening as a busy single mom who figured out, I don't know like how how to create simple recipes at home to feed the whole family in 10 minutes, right? There are so many people out there looking for that. Yeah, so, so if you were able to figure that out, create a course or something online and just sell it for 27 or 47 or you know, depending on how much is in there and people are going to buy it, you know, you just have to find them um find that niche of people. But I think I think a lot of people really want to serve and so that's why your idea for this, this topic really hit close to home because I am obsessed with personal girls and growth and development. I think you are too and I think we both want to serve other people for you. It's it's I mean you're you're obviously helping on the personal growth stuff but you're also still under the personal training stuff and that's really kind of the same thing to

[00:10:29] spk_1: Yeah. Yeah. Well when I, you know, I think I think a lot of people want to serve other people and I think that it can also become really intimidating or overwhelming to be like how do I how do I help people? You know how do I serve people? Whatever and that's where it's just so cool that yeah everybody is there is so many interests out there that if you are excited about something just learning about that something will you know inherently be able to serve others. And like when we the only reason I started going to M. P. T. I. To to learn about personal training was because I wanted to lose weight because somebody on facebook from high school uh commented on a photo and they're like wow man you used to be so you know kind of fit in high school. What happened first of all I was like jeez I was like we were that close man who feels comfortable saying stuff like that you know I mean like what that But but anyways uh it was enough for me to be like well damn I guess all you know whatever be peer pressure to lose some weight which isn't always a good thing. But but anyways my point is that it was not at all uh for the purpose of wanting to help other people, I was just tired of looking stuff up online and being like is this legit or is it just some bro telling me you know to do this thing and so but it morphed into uh serving people, you know, Because now the way that I have you know learned about the path that I've taken and the things that I focus on when it comes to personal training I think tend to be specifically applicable to excuse the uh there might be another one too, I can't figure out how to turn out. Uh But anyways the style that I have I think is applicable, I don't want to say your average person, but to people who are just trying to feel better physically everything is connected. And a lot of times it's hard to experience, you know, progress in in the fitness realm just because uh you're being held back maybe buy something that you don't even know its postural E or whatever it may be. And so I didn't have that figured out until you know, 67 Maybe earlier. But for whatever awhile through my my process of really working on learning about personal training. And so all I'm saying overall is that uh yeah, when you learn about something the more you learn the easier it is to to turn that into a highway of helping others, you know? Uh I think that that's really cool. I think it's really yeah, you know, it gives you permission to do whatever you want.

[00:13:20] spk_0: Yeah. And you and you you did exactly what we were just talking about. You know, you went through the courses, you wanted to help yourself and then at some point you look back and said no, I want to help other people do that, you know? And uh and I think a lot of people are in that same category, but they get scared off about that, you know, who am I targeting? Who am I trying to help? Like I want to serve people, but who am I trying to help? Well, a lot of times again, the easiest thing is it might be you from like five or six or seven years ago before you started the journey or right when you started the journey to get where you are today. And so I think that's important for people to focus on if they do indeed want to serve other people.

[00:13:58] spk_1: Yeah. Yeah, definitely, definitely.

[00:14:02] spk_0: And the biggest thing that one of the biggest hiccups that I always run into still, uh because I love creating stuff and I love creating content, I love creating courses and everything, but I always, I always, you know, I'm writing these books and it's like, I have like a huge rough draft and I keep adding stuff in it at some point. It's just like, don't overwhelm yourself. You don't have to have every single thing in everything that you do, you don't have to have every detail just do the important stuff. And sometimes it overwhelms other people too. You don't have four or five things that you're gonna choose to talk about. Get it out there, help the people that you can, whether it's on social media that you find them, whether it's some of your friends, whether it's people at work, wherever you're niches get there and serve to help them. And then you can always create more ways to help people beyond that. You know, I mean

[00:14:48] spk_1: to me,

[00:14:49] spk_0: I think everyone should be, I think everyone should want to be in service of other people to some extent and uh and I mean, I think it's only a good thing, but I think people just get so overwhelmed by and they don't they don't know how and I know we're going to talk about this in an episode, but as Tony Robbins says all the time and I love it basically says screw how it's all about the why, why do you want to do what you're doing? Because how will make you stop in your tracks? And uh and it's true because it becomes overwhelming. You're like, I want to do this and this and this. Like if your wife is strong enough, you

[00:15:21] spk_1: can absolutely do

[00:15:22] spk_0: it. But if you start thinking about how right away, then then you're going to overwhelm yourself. You don't know how to do it, you don't know how to build a website. How do you start a business? How do you do this? How do you do that? And then you're just like, oh, I have to learn so much before I do that, or, or you just walk away.

[00:15:38] spk_1: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, totally. Are. You can just imagine all the work that people do to wherever they are. You know, when you see anybody and there at some point that you think is cool or whatever it may be. Yeah. If you focus on how it's so like, it's not as if a person can't think about the how right? But it's just just paying attention to the fact that how will have just inherently has a lot more, a lot more to think about than the why. I guess if you just pay attention to the to the y your motivation will just it's cool if if nothing else different line I'll take I think it's just cool to think about how you will if you feel as though you can't find the motivation to do something, then um you can solve that kind of guy. You know, finding that why? Because then that will be more inherently there. You don't have to generate it every day. You don't have to wake up and be like all right, I got to you know give an f about what I'm doing here. You know if you if you like, yeah if you no more why that f to be given will already be there and so that will, that will push you, you'll be doing stuff before you even notice that you

[00:17:03] spk_0: are. Yeah. And it's interesting that we're talking about this because one of the other things that I'm doing, so I want to help people get through rough times and realize like they can have a happier life for mentally like mindset wise, right? And I realized that a lot of times that leads to them wanting to serve others. So that's why I kind of started this secondary thing that I'm working through right now and hope to have available by September one, but a course on how to start like a business or brand to better your life that you're passionate about. So you can live your life whether it's a side hustle or you know, a side hustle. You wanted to grow into your main income stream, but were we, we work all the time. And if you can actually, if you can have something that you're doing that that you're passionate about and gives your life meaning, that's so essential, um it just changes everything. So, um, so that's, I am hoping to help people because starting a business from scratch is an intimidating thing, and so, you know, I want to help people to be able to do that too, hoping to to work with people that again. Yeah, I want to serve others and want to have meaning in their life based on that.

[00:18:12] spk_1: Absolutely, yeah, it's uh you know, that's why it's so cool, just the uh field of the, of entrepreneurism uh is so cool because of seeing opportunity all over the place, but that's where everybody gets to benefit from that, like you said, you know, whether it's a side hustle or your main thing, anybody can, you know it like you said, basically what you're talking about, like taking the opportunity to show people uh huh show them how through that course work and give them some ways to be able to start that business, like it's accessible to everybody. And I feel as though, yeah, there's such a large thought process that is rooted kind of in as if doing something like that, making a business out of doing the things that you want that you're interested in and seeing how that can serve other people feel so, so intimidating. Like you said that people just get turned away and so totally, that's just a really cool cool thing to do because everybody, what if everybody felt like like that, you know what if everybody is looking to do that as opposed to just be like, oh well here's what I can do, I can go and work for this person or whatever. It's like, no, this is what I'm interested in, and this is how I want to develop it and yeah, we would have way, I feel like we don't have a lot of, a lot cooler stuff out here, you know, just generally

[00:19:38] spk_0: Absolutely, and I think, I think it's it's trending that way, you know, over the past few years, maybe the past 3 to 5 years, it's really started to springboard in that direction, entrepreneurs and solo preneurs and people just kind of going out and trying to help others serve others. But also I think that Covid really increased it rapidly because then people were forced to do something because some people lost work, some people out of work couldn't find a job forced to work from home, like, so I think that that really catapulted even like into orbit, like it just increased it rapidly, whereas like um you know, maybe we won't be quite this far, but a lot of people are doing it, but there is still so much opportunity out there for stuff like that. Um It's interesting like being being in the coaching field because I uh you know, I'm very social and I talked to people whether it's a happy hour, I'm seeing a bus to have for whatever it is, I talked to people and and I mean I've gotten such deep conversations with complete strangers before, but but what it really brought me back to is that every single person that you see on the street, every person that you pass in in a car, the person that speeding past you and driving erratically and you get mad at or is tailgating you like they're all going through some form of their own personal health. There's there's something, there's something like going at them all the time. There's reasons that they're unhappy. There's things that they need to get beyond that and I mean like everybody, you know, so like everyone you pass on the street, they all have a story, they're all going through something or have went through something and uh and they all need help, they all need someone to help them go through that thing. And so I think when you start talking about personal growth and development, I think to me I came to a point that it was like there's there's I have to help people with the things that I've learned. Like it it just wasn't even a question to me. So that's why I've just been so so into this life next level stuff, even though I'm not making much money on that aspect of it yet. But the personal growth field, I just I just want to help people to get through stuff, you know?

[00:21:46] spk_1: Yeah. Yeah. Well that's an example of exactly what we're talking about to, you know, maybe we already mentioned that, but having their wife and wanting to create this stuff really right now, it doesn't, it's not stuff in your pockets, but uh but you still have unequally weighted reason that you want to continue to do this and that is almost better, right? The fact that you're interested in doing this uh despite the fact that maybe it's not, you know, again, yeah, making bank um is usually what we'll probably get something to ultimately make bank, you know, at some point. Uh Wait, it's but it's not about that one way or another though. I just think it's really, yeah, it's really interesting to uh to just think about the like whatever, I don't know if I'm using this, the effect, the subsidiary effect, whatever, trying to think of another way to say it, that makes it sound really intelligible, you know? But just the impact that comes from development is is like exponential development, potentially, you know, and that is really cool because just like you said, you know, basically exactly like what you're talking about the idea of being in a time where people are doing stuff like this more, it's only more useful these days to figure out how to have some insight into creating a business or creating something that, you know, learning how to to find your why and figure out how the bring it about. And so yeah, I think that that is really, really cool and it's it's like the definition of being the benefit of development.

[00:23:40] spk_0: Yeah, I think so and uh you know it's interesting too because yeah, it's almost hard to think about it in terms of monetary value because it's hard to, you know, if I could help everyone for free, that's what I would do. But you need you need to place a value on it because you need to make money for your time and the more money you can make, the more people you can help, you know and I know that's a that's a very that's a huge stigma out there and people that want to help people and want to serve people but they have to charge for it and have to sell it and that's very hard for a lot of people. But if you think about it in terms of the more you can sell it, the more people you can help, you know and and what you're giving like you're giving good information, like you're giving value for that cost. You know the thing is always over delivered. Always try to help that person and if you walked away like if you created something Ethan and you created this thing and you who helped one person who emailed you and said well thank you so much in my life, when did I'll be worth it? Yeah. You know and that's the way also I have um yes the selling part is is the hardest part, but that's also that's also the part that will keep me going and keep me helping more people, you know? So

[00:24:54] spk_1: yeah that's the other thing though that you said, that's really cool, that realizes that objectively. You know feel that feeling of like I feel bad that I got to you know let me help you. It's five bucks you know you're gonna open your jacket, here's the help you know whatever but like I just think that the value there's inherently objectively value to it you know? And so it's all that's you know that's just interesting to look at is that like that can kind of calm that concern in the first place. I feel bad selling it but it's like well no I mean there's there's yeah just you can either eat this food or somebody else could have it but in here it has caloric value no matter what and you can't strip that out you know because it's not like yeah more. Yeah so anyways I just think that absolutely it's just I'm just trying to highlight that yeah there is value in development and ah and yeah it's plain to see, so maybe it's not though, sometimes it's not, it's not always playing to see. So yeah,

[00:25:55] spk_0: that's true, that's true. So yeah, I guess like my final thought of it is, you know, if you, if you, if you're listening to this and you want to add value, you want to add value to someone else's life by serving them in some way and you want to do something that you're passionate about, Look at, look at the things that you've gone through because what everybody wants, I mean, the world is changing now. They don't necessarily, people don't want classes from professors who have never been through stuff. They want, they want you and me to help them with what we've been through and they're just going through, they want people that have had the experience to help them. It's it's a very interesting change over the last few years that this industry is so huge. It's so right for opportunity right now to help others. And there are more ways than ever before to reach them. I mean podcasts, youtube channels creating courses on, I mean, there's so many platforms you can create courses on. It's absolutely crazy. So, I mean, the time is now, as they, as they always say, I'm gonna probably slaughter the same, but you know, the best time to plant a tree was 50 years ago, but the second best time to plant a tree is right now, you know, so, so you're thinking about it. Go, just start, just start to figure out your wife, you have a strong enough why you'll figure out the how

[00:27:12] spk_1: exactly, yeah. Yeah. I think my final thing, if anything is just that don't judge whether what you're interested in fields valid enough, you know, or whatever doesn't matter. Just exactly like you said, whatever it is. Doesn't matter if you're interested in it. Just it'll that tree will turn into and connect to a billion other trees and before you know it, you know, you're in a wonderful, you know, rainforest canopy going from opportunity to opportunity. So yeah. Just if you're interested go for

[00:27:43] spk_0: absolutely. All right. Any final thoughts man?

[00:27:47] spk_1: Besides that?

[00:27:47] spk_0: No. All right, well thanks everyone for tuning in to another episode of the Life Next Level podcast and uh we'll catch you next time. See you. No.