Latter-day Life Coaches
175 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 1 month ago - ★★★★★ - 48 ratingsConnecting members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints with certified coaches who have all the tools to help you live a life full of peace, love, fun, and progress.
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70. Divorce Coaching: What it is and Why it Matters with Samantha Nielsen
May 03, 2022 07:00 - 31 minutes - 31.8 MBOutside of having someone close to you pass away, divorce is the most stressful thing anyone could go through. It is a time of change anywhere from where you live, how you parent, your financial situation, and the relationships you have in your life. Whenever you are going through something as life changing as divorce, it is important to get all the support you can get. On today’s podcast, you will find a great support person to have on your team. Coach Samantha Nielsen helps those who...
69. Changing Our Narrative About Pornography with Zach Spafford
April 26, 2022 07:00 - 46 minutes - 46.1 MBWhenever we discuss pornography use in the Church we often refer to it as an “addiction” but coach Zach Spafford thinks this is an innacurate description of what is happening and one that needs to change. Zach feels the narrative around pornography use needs to change so that we can allow for agency and mistakes. When we can come to accept that all of us were sent to earth to use our agency and that mistakes are part of that agency, then we can come to view those who look at pornograp...
68. Running Your Family Like a Business with Meg Thomas
April 19, 2022 07:00 - 41 minutes - 41.4 MBWho doesn’t like bacon? Bacon is a favorite for many families but when you have a large family, having bacon on a regular basis can get expensive. In coach Meg Thomas’s family one of their biggest family debates was over bacon. The kids wanted more but the parents knew daily bacon just wasn’t in the budget. How did they compromise? By holding a family meeting where every person’s concerns were voiced and then a plan was set in place where everyone gave and sacrificed for the good of the whol...
67. How to Stay in Your Own Lane When it Comes to the Relationship You Have with your Teen with Heidi Benjaminsen
April 12, 2022 07:00 - 45 minutes - 44.4 MBWe all want to have a good relationship with our children. But relationships between children and their parents can often become strained during the teen years. We often associate it to the teen being rebellious but really, they are just wanting autonomy. What we have to learn as parents is to release the control on our teen and let them take control of their own life. This is difficult but will make all the difference. On today's episode Coach Heidi Benjaminsen talks about how to do this an...
66. Lovability with Heather Rackham and Amber Williams
April 05, 2022 07:00 - 41 minutes - 43.7 MBWe live in a world that likes to quantify things and place value on how much something is worth. We are constantly determining the worth and value of everything in our life. We do it with activities and events by weighing them against the value of our time. We do it with clothes, cars, and houses against the money we think they are really worth. Since we engage in placing value on so many things in our lives it can be easy to also start placing value and worth on ourselves as well as others...
65. Creating a Top Priority Life With Molly Claire
March 29, 2022 07:00 - 36 minutes - 37 MBThere is only one you and so you are the only one who can create a life where what you really want is a top priority. Many know this but making the things that matter most a priority an actual reality can often seem overwhelming and impossible. Coach Molly Claire sits down to talk with Heather about how each of us has unique desires, wants, and gifts that were given to us on purpose by God so that we could each create the handcrafted life we are meant to live. The biggest obstacle to y...
64. How to Deal with ADHD As An LDS Woman with Jody Long
March 22, 2022 07:00 - 35 minutes - 35.3 MBWhen many think of someone who has ADHD they think of hyper, overactive little boys. While that definitely can be a symptom, for many girls and women the hyperactivity is in their brains and therefore often goes unrecognized and undiagnosed. Coach Jody Long was not diagnosed with ADHD until she was thirty-five. With that diagnosis the ways she had been all growing up started to make sense. She now helps other women with ADHD come to peace with their diagnosis as well as realize it’s one of...
63. Learning to Love All of Your Emotions With Meg Tilton
March 15, 2022 08:00 - 39 minutes - 39 MBWe like to classify emotions into two categories - good and bad. But what if there were no good or bad emotions? What if all emotions were actually good and there to serve you? Coach Meg Tilton believes that it is in accepting all the emotions, listening to what they have to say, and validating them, that we are truly able to gain emotional mastery and call forth a beautiful army of strong and beautiful emotions to achieve our purposes here on earth. Meg is on a mission to help every w...
62. Finding Your Next Best Work Through Repentance With Amy Elkins
March 08, 2022 08:00 - 31 minutes - 31.8 MBWhile repentance is a key component of overcoming our weaknesses and being able to return to live with God again, it can often feel heavy and have a lot of shame associated with it. But what if it didn’t need to be that way? What if we could come at repentance from a different angle and instead of feeling heavy, feel lighter and filled with more hope? Coach Amy Elkins feels that when we can view repentance as the process that allows us to move towards our next best work, the process i...
61. Knowing When to Automate, Delegate, and Eliminate in Your Business and in Life With Brittni Schroeder
March 01, 2022 08:00 - 31 minutes - 33.1 MBYou can have a great product but if you don’t know how to market it, it doesn’t matter. This is what coach Brittni Schroeder knows after having run several successful businesses and helping her clients market their businesses. She specializes in helping her clients learn how to market their product without the process consuming their lives. She believes you have to learn what you can automate, delegate to others, or eliminate all together so that your business can work for you while you are ...
60. How to Lose Weight Without Counting or Calculating With Lisa Salisbury
February 22, 2022 08:00 - 32 minutes - 31.7 MBWe need food to survive and yet for many, food can be a constant battle every day of what and how much to eat. But what if you could make peace with food and you don’t have to count or calculate everything that goes in your mouth or eliminate any food from your plate? How would you feel if you could be the weight you want and have a positive relationship with all food? Today on the podcast coach Lisa Salisbury is going to talk about how she helps her clients create a healthy relationship...
59. Rediscovering Our Power to Create the Life We Want With Alicia Davis
February 15, 2022 08:00 - 34 minutes - 35.6 MBCreation is a divine characteristic. Are you a creator in your life and of your life? If you feel you could use some guidance in this area, take a listen to this episode. You will leave feeling uplifted and with a greater desire to create. Coach Alicia Davis believes in the importance of tapping into our creator capabilities and truly learning what we are meant to create with our lives. She believes that as we turn to the One who knows us best, our Heavenly Father, we are able to not onl...
58. How to Stop Sabotaging the Relationship You Have with Your Teen With Heather Frazier
February 08, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 41.7 MBBeing a people pleaser is something that can get a bad wrap, but in many ways the intention of the people pleaser is very well meaning. They want everyone to be happy and they want to control people and situations so that the outcome is positive for everyone involved. In reality though, it’s a power struggle and believe it or not can be manipulative. Those being manipulated know it and they become resentful. Having strong willed children, who make their own choices, can be a challenge for an...
57. You Truly Can Have it ALL With Marcie McGee
February 01, 2022 08:00 - 35 minutes - 37.4 MBWhat if someone told you that everything you wanted you could actually have? That wanting a successful business didn’t mean you had to sacrifice your relationships with your spouse or your children. Coach Marcie McGee feels that we really only limit ourselves and what we can achieve by the limiting thoughts we have. She believes you can have it all and she wants to help each of her clients do just that. On the podcast today Marcie will share how everyone gets to define their own success and ...
56. Being the “Touch Point of Christ” for Your LGBTQ Child With Jenie Hunter
January 25, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 42.8 MBIt’s probably safe to say that women in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints love two things very much - the gospel and their children. But what happens when those two things come into conflict with one another? There has been a lot of discussion in recent years on how parents of children who are LGBTQ can continue to love and support their children while still holding fast to the truths of the gospel. Coach Jenie Hunter has created a community of support and hope for these mother...
55. Preventing Burnout for Caregivers of “The Sandwich Generation” With Meredith Gardner
January 18, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 40.9 MBWhen you are young you feel your parents are invincible and will never have failing health or need extra care from you as their child. But as life expectancy increases in the United States it is a role many of us will most likely find ourselves in at some point and in some capacity. Taking on the needs of ailing parents can mean significant life adjustments for their children now being their caregivers. Coach Meredith Gardner helps her clients take on this role by balancing their obligatio...
54. Learning Compassion For Yourself As a Mormon Man with Bob Smith
January 11, 2022 08:00 - 45 minutes - 46.9 MBFinding fulfillment in life goes beyond simply checking all the boxes of the things we feel we need to do as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Fulfillment doesn’t come from a checklist but from a conscious and deliberate effort in pursuing and doing the things that make one happy. Today coach Bob Smith is here today to talk about how he helps men in the Church move past the checklist so they can live the life they want and are meant to live. If you are or know a ...
53. Growing Into Yourself After Divorce with Tanya Hale
January 04, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 39.9 MBNo one ever gets married with an intention of getting divorced and yet divorce is something that still happens. In the Church there are a lot of thoughts that surround the topic of divorce and it can be a hard arena to know how to navigate both as someone going through a divorce and someone supporting a divorcee. After being married for over twenty years, Tanya Hale decided that divorce was the next best step for her. She says it was the hardest decision of her life and yet she has use...
52. Story vs. Fact with Heather Rackham and Kendra Huffman
December 28, 2021 08:00 - 27 minutes - 27.1 MBIn its simplest form, life is broken down into two categories - stories and facts. Facts are simply the things that occur in our lives. They are usually out of our control and something that everyone around us would agree on as having happened or not happened. Stories are created by us and are created by our thoughts about the facts. One person’s story of a set of facts can be very different from another person’s story. It’s not that the facts have changed but the story each individual is t...
51. Emotions with Heather Rackham and Crystal Hansen
December 21, 2021 08:00 - 26 minutes - 27 MBIf ever there were a love hate relationship in your life, it probably exists in the way you feel towards your emotions. Some emotions are so amazing to feel and some are just tough and hard. But in order to truly take part in the full mortal experience, you must become really good at feeling ALL the emotions. When you can get to a place where emotions are neither good nor bad is when you know you are reaching emotional maturity. Emotions were given to you by Heavenly Father and you are m...
50. How to Deal with Depression with More Than Just Medicine with Emylee McIntyre
December 14, 2021 08:00 - 35 minutes - 37.8 MBWe can often think that popping a pill for our depression will fix everything, but that rarely is the case. There is still so much we need to learn about our minds and mind management that the tools of coaching can help with. To have depression is just one part of depression. We have thoughts about having depression and we need to make sure we address those not from just the medical side of combatting this disease. Coach Emylee McIntyre is here today to chat about the work that can be...
49. Parenting Adult Children with Bonnie Lyman
December 07, 2021 08:00 - 30 minutes - 30.5 MBWhen your children make choices that are contrary to what you taught them, the natural tendency is to get angry but often it is in those moments that they need us the most. Coach Bonnie Lyman is on a mission to help every parent who struggles in their relationships with their adult children. Bonnie so wisely stated, “[As an adult parent] you really have one assignment. It’s just to love them.” The question is, how exactly do you love them in the ways they need? Bonnie shares the belie...
48. Finding Success By Meeting Yourself Where You Are with Kami Banks
November 30, 2021 08:00 - 28 minutes - 30 MBWe are in the holiday season. Thanksgiving has just passed and I’m sure you are gearing up for Christmas. Amongst all the festivities of the season, perhaps you are eyeing the new year and thinking that when 2022 comes THEN you will focus on losing some weight. Coach Kami Banks wants you to know that you can start your journey right now. You don’t have to wait for the clock to strike midnight on January 1st to start taking steps towards better health. Her philosophy when it comes to lasting ...
47. 50/50 with Heather Rackham and Leah Davidson
November 23, 2021 08:00 - 21 minutes - 21.9 MBThere are most likely very few of us who welcome and enjoy painful emotions, thoughts, and experiences, and yet life seems to have a way of making sure no one escapes this mortal existence without feeling pain in one way or the other. But life also seems to have a way of making sure we also feel joy and happiness. The existence of seemingly polar opposites is how our Heavenly Father designed this life to be. When we embrace the “opposition in all things” is when we embrace the full human exp...
46. Living By Your Own Rules with Davina Fear
November 16, 2021 08:00 - 40 minutes - 40.9 MBOn some level, we all like rules. They create order and prevent unnecessary pain and suffering. For example, when you are out and about driving I’m sure you really appreciate having rules of the road and having those around you follow them. The consequence of not following some rules can be devastating and life altering. BUT, there are rules that we tend to live by that aren’t really rules. We have just adopted them because a large part of society thinks they are things we “should” or “need”...
45. Thought Downloads with Heather Rackham and Joey Mascio
November 09, 2021 08:00 - 18 minutes - 19.3 MBI want you to think back to the last time you got sick - throw up sick. How did you feel right before you threw up and right after? Most likely you felt horrible right before you got sick and hopefully you felt better right after. Thoughts that swirl in our head can be just like a stomach bug. They make us feel terrible if we try to keep them in our brain, and not until we get them out of our head, do we finally feel better. Today on the podcast I discuss with coach Joey Mascio the im...
44. Normalizing Teen Anxiety with Jill Freestone
November 02, 2021 07:00 - 34 minutes - 35.6 MBDoes your teen suffer from anxiety? If so, then you definitely want to listen to this episode with coach Jill Freestone where she talks about the importance of normalizing anxiety and creating an environment where your teen is validated and heard. As parents we can often fear what may happen if our child suffers from anxiety. Often in that fear we either ignore the anxiety or try and “fix” it. But anxiety is not supposed to be fixed. It is an emotion we need to learn to move through, welco...
43. Helping Your Teen Build Self-Confidence with Cheree Murdock
October 26, 2021 07:00 - 36 minutes - 39 MBAs a parent, your inability or lack of willingness to feel your own emotions when it comes to your teens' emotions could be the very thing holding them back from having the self-confidence they need to accomplish the work God has sent them to earth to do. On today’s episode of the podcast, coach Cheree Murdock discusses the reasons she feels teens need more self-confidence, what parents can do to make sure their teens have it, and why the world so desperately needs more self-confident teen...
42. Saving Your Relationships by Living Your Values with Elisa Fucci
October 19, 2021 05:00 - 29 minutes - 23.1 MBWithin each of our mortal bodies resides our true self - our spiritual bodies. These spirit bodies are thousands of years old and very wise. When we learn to tap into their wisdom is when we gain a better relationship with ourselves and with God. So how do we do that? How do we tap into all the wisdom we have within us? For coach Elisa Fucci it comes down to knowing your individual values and then living by them. Come listen as Elisa’s thousands of years old spirit calls to your spiri...
41. Improving Your Marriage Through Good Communication with Jane Copier
October 12, 2021 05:00 - 38 minutes - 33.5 MBThe statistics are somewhat humbling. More marriages end in divorce because of criticism and contention than infidelity. What does that mean for you and your marriage success? You need to make sure the communication between you and your spouse is open and good. You need to become the best communicator you can be. Today on the podcast I have coach Jane Copier who has made it her life mission to work with individuals and couples so that they can have thriving marriages that contain conne...
40. Gaining a Deeper Understanding of the Gospel Through Life Coaching with Heather Rasband
October 05, 2021 05:00 - 25 minutes - 21.6 MBWhen it comes to the Gospel we often believe that we shouldn’t need nor seek any perspective or views outside the Church circle for how to best live and implement its doctrines and principles. For coach Heather Rasband embracing the teachings of life coaching did just the opposite. On today's episode she shares how the tools of life coaching have deepened her understanding of the gospel and allowed her to live it more fully. She has been able to learn to love herself more, love others mor...
39. Drop the Mom Guilt By Living Your Individual Values with Mary Ann Hill
September 28, 2021 05:00 - 36 minutes - 29.7 MBIn her book Dare to Lead, Brene Brown defines values as “a way of being or believing, that we hold most important.” She goes on to state that you have to know what values guide your life. Coach Mary Ann Hill could not agree more. She feels values are the foundation for truly knowing yourself and how you want to live your life. She believes that when we don’t live by our values then we are living a life without direction. There are a lot of ways that living a life without direction can ...
38. Genuinely Enjoying Your Adult Children with Bonny Scott
September 21, 2021 05:00 - 31 minutes - 25.6 MBI think it would be safe to say that every mother has an idyllic vision of how her children will turn out when it comes to the choices they will make and who they will become. Many think the hard years of mothering are when kids are young and require a lot of time and energy. However, mothering dreams rarely turn out the way one thinks they should and the energy required to stay engaged in your children’s lives doesn’t stop once they are able to dress and feed themselves. Sometimes the ha...
37. Finding Peace When Your Family Member Is An Active Addict with Crystal Hansen
September 14, 2021 05:00 - 30 minutes - 25.2 MBDrug addictions are no longer something that only happens to people we don’t know or in low income areas. Chances are you know someone personally either in your family or friend circle who has or is suffering from a drug addiction. The LDS community is not immune from the grips of substance abuse. In situations where there is an addiction, much of the focus is placed on the addict themselves making sure they get the treatment and help they need. But there are others who also suffer no...
36. The Model
September 07, 2021 05:00 - 26 minutes - 22.4 MBSo many of us feel at the affect of our circumstances, or the things that are out of our control. We tend to believe that the results we have in our life are because of those things that are outside of us. That can leave us feeling hopeless and powerless. But what if that wasn’t true? What if even though you don’t have control over things outside of you, you still had control over your results? Today I am here with coach Meg Tilton to talk about how the results in your life are always 100% i...
35. The Life Changing Magic of Accepting Your In-laws with Minda Pacheco
August 31, 2021 05:00 - 34 minutes - 29 MB60% of women struggle with their mother-in-law. That’s a staggering statistic surrounding the feelings women have about the woman who raised their husband. Why is the relationship between mother and daughter-in-law such a strained one? Is there hope for having a good relationship in this area - or with any in-law for that matter? Today on the podcast coach Minda Pacheco shares a secret to having great in-law relationships and how following this secret has opened herself up to a world full of...
34. Overcoming the Lies of Postpartum Depression with Heather Shuler
August 24, 2021 05:00 - 36 minutes - 29.9 MBHaving a baby can be one of the most amazing experiences of a woman’s life but it can also be an emotional rollercoaster. “Baby blues” are normal within the first two weeks of giving birth, but for some those blues can turn into something more serious. Roughly 15% of women will suffer from postpartum depression after having a baby. This is a condition where a mother can find herself in a place of having a lack of desire to care for herself and her baby. The severity and frequency can vary pr...
33. Caring For the Caregiver with Kolette Hall
August 17, 2021 05:00 - 37 minutes - 32.1 MBWhen Kolette Hall married her husband Jason, they believed that as his wife she should be in charge of all his care. But caring for anyone full time can be overwhelming and especially when it is your quadraplegic husband. When an accident five years into their marriage brought to light the burden of being Jason’s sole caregiver, things needed to change for their marriage to survive. Fortunately Kolette had her own advocates in Jason’s parents and they rallied around her to set up extra suppo...
32. The Importance of Evolving As a Parent with Darrin Thomas
August 10, 2021 05:00 - 29 minutes - 24.2 MBWhen our children make choices that go outside of the story we have told ourselves then it can be easy to try and fix our child, to make them conform to a set of rules we think they should be living their lives by. But when we decide to evolve as a parent we realize that our child doesn’t have to change at all and that the ability to have a great relationship with them is really within us. Come listen to coach Darrin Thomas as he relates his own experience with one of his daughters that s...
31. Navigating the Emotional Crisis of Being a Mother with Young Children with Jessica Wiest
August 03, 2021 05:00 - 36 minutes - 30.8 MBPresident David O. McKay said, “The nobelist calling in the world is motherhood.” As women in the church we are taught this truth from day one. All of our life plans and focus are on this calling, and for a good reason. Having and raising children truly is a noble calling. But what does it mean when we finally find ourselves in that role and we are extremely unhappy? Have we done something wrong? Are we broken? Will we ever truly find that happiness we were told we would receive once we beca...
30. Making Peace With Our Bodies and Food with Brigette Little
July 27, 2021 05:00 - 37 minutes - 30.4 MBWe all have to eat in order to live, but of all the relationships we have in our lives, the majority of us have a very unhealthy relationship with the food we eat. We are constantly labeling foods as either “good” or “bad” and if we eat certain foods that do things to our body, then we also must be “good” or “bad”. But Heavenly Father doesn’t love us based on the foods we eat or the size of our bodies. Worth has nothing to do with body shape or if we look good in the latest fashion style. ...
29. Your Unique Grief Experience with Stephanie Pickle
July 20, 2021 05:00 - 29 minutes - 13.4 MBWhile grief and loss are a natural part of life, it is a process that we often don’t know how to navigate. When hit with grief, our emotions are deep and complex and layered on top of each other. We can often feel like our entire world has been turned upside down and that we will never experience happiness and joy again. Learning how to make our way through the grief process so that we can be stronger and truly live a life of joy and happiness once again can be difficult, but it is most defi...
Discussions About “Letters to a Young Mormon” with Adam Miller
July 13, 2021 04:00 - 45 minutes - 38.7 MBAdam Miller is a professor of philosophy at Collin College in McKinney, Texas and is the author of eight books. On today’s special addition podcast you will be able to listen as Adam discusses some passages from his book “Letters to a Young Mormon” with the Latter-day life coaches you normally hear on the podcast. Adam and the coaches address things like what sin is, what translation of the scriptures needs to look like in our own lives, and how to fully understand the hunger that is give...
28. How to Enjoy your Teenagers with Christi Davis
July 06, 2021 04:00 - 27 minutes - 23.9 MBWhen we become parents we have a lot of expectations of who our children should and will become. These expectations are only good until our children start to take a different path than the one we thought they would or should take. But as coach Christi Davis will show you, letting go of those expectations is the key to having a good relationship with your teenager and allowing you to enjoy them as they navigate becoming young adults. As a parent of teens your job is just to provide an ...
27. Embracing Your Role As a Working Mom with Shannon Resare
June 29, 2021 05:00 - 31 minutes - 21.4 MBThere is a cultural belief in the Church that the best place for a woman to be is in the home and that if she does anything else outside of the home, has any desire to do anything other than tend to home and children, then there is something wrong - wrong with her or wrong with her life situation. But desires are God-given and each woman’s path is as unique and different as there are women in this world. When all is said and done, the path a woman takes in her life is between her, her spou...
26. Becoming An Expert At Loving Yourself with LeAnn Austin
June 22, 2021 05:00 - 30 minutes - 21.2 MBLoving yourself can seem like a selfish thing to do, but in actuality it is the most selfless thing because when you love yourself you allow yourself to love others more fully and completely. A mistake so many people make is that they believe that in order to be loveable, or to love themselves, they must be perfect and have all the desired traits and qualities they are striving for. But if we look to Heavenly Father and the Savior as examples of loving us, they love us exactly where we are...
25. Why Every Marriage Needs Boundaries (and How to Set Them!) with Jessica Farmer
June 15, 2021 05:00 - 40 minutes - 28.1 MBMarriages are relationships that take constant work and input from both spouses. Even under the best of circumstances, there can be struggles and growing pains. When one of the spouses has issues with mental health, those struggles can become even more intense and difficult to navigate. Coach Jessica Farmer works specifically with individuals who have a spouse dealing with mental health problems, so that they know how to navigate through not only dealing with their spouse’s mental ups and do...
Bonus 2: Owning Your Spirituality with Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife
June 11, 2021 05:00 - 33 minutes - 23.1 MBSpirituality is our connection with the divine. It is where our spirits are able to connect on a level above mortality with God. Often we can become scared and fearful of that higher level connection and what it will mean for the current truths we hold dear if we learn things that contradict them and the beliefs of those around us. To Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife, discovering those truths from a place of courage instead of fear is how we have integrity with ourselves and with God. We believ...
24. Learning to Have Confidence in Our Your Adult Children with Tiffany Rhoton
June 08, 2021 05:00 - 35 minutes - 24.8 MBSo often we think we know what’s best for our kids. When they are young we make a lot of decisions for them, but as they grow older it can be tricky to let go and allow them to make choices for themselves. On this episode of the podcast, Heather and Tiffany talk about the importance of letting your young adult children make their own decisions, how that is good for them, why it’s necessary for their development and growth, and how it can actually strengthen the relationship you have with the...
23. Trauma, Adversity, and Resilience with Leah Davidson
June 01, 2021 04:30 - 34 minutes - 31.7 MBWhen our expectations of life do not line up with the reality of the hand we have been dealt, we suffer. A way to work through the suffering is to build resilience. Resilience is our ability to bounce back, and grow, despite our challenges. Listen to my conversation with Coach Leah Davidson to find out how we can increase our resilience. Takeaways: *Resiliency is not bouncing back to who you used to be but bouncing to a new version of yourself. *Post-traumatic Growth is a process wher...