Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position

Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position with Paul Glover

Selfcare is a must in order to be the best leader we can possibly be. Days can be filled with adversity and many decisions coming at you rapid-fire. It is much to get enough sleep, eat right, exercise, and practice gratitude in order to perform at the highest levels day in and day out. Paul also has a great story and is very transparent about his journey.

About Paul

I am the No-B.S. Work Performance Coach. I’m based in Chicago but I work with clients throughout the U.S. I am also a “recovering” trial lawyer, an unabashed Starbucks addict, and the author of Workquake™, a book dedicated to those in the work environment seeking to not only survive, but also to thrive in the Knowledge Economy.

In 1994, Paul was a successful federal court trial attorney.  In 1995, he was a convicted felon, serving 7 years of incarceration in Federal Prison.

How Paul and his family managed to overcome the personal and professional setback he inflicted on himself and his family and how he built a successful national coaching practice is Paul’s personal case study about overcoming adversity and setbacks through resilience and grit.

Paul’s messages to those who hear him speak is: “we don’t succeed in spite of our losses, but because of them” and “before your life can change, you need to change.”

Through keynotes and workshops, Paul illustrates how those faced with setbacks, either personal or professional, can develop and use resilience, mental toughness and grit to take the challenges they face and transform them into growth opportunities.

www.paulglovercoaching.com

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Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:00:00):

Doing is we chronically my journey. I am on a journey to get healthy, get fit, get in shape. And so what we do, we talk a lot about our individual situation and Terry - Feeding Fatty support of that. But we also have guests professionals from time to time. And today is no exception. We've got an awesome guest, Paul Glover's with us, and his message really resonated with me. So I just felt like, you know, we really had to get him on the show. He is the no BS workforce performance coach. He assist organization, team leaders and teams to reach their full potential and become high performing. He's also a recovering trial lawyer, which we'll let him talk about that for sure. Uh, Starbucks addict, uh, Chicago's bears fan. He is the author of work quake. He's also a speaker on business and leadership topics and a member of the Forbes coaching council. Paul, thanks for being with us. We are excited to have you with us.

Paul (00:00:58):

Yeah. Thank you so much, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position and Terry - Feeding Fatty, it's a privilege and a pleasure. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:01:02):

Yeah. And you know, um, I think what resonates with me and, um, I meant to tell you pre-show that, um, the last, since we talked earlier, you know, it's really been resonating with me about not only the healthy part, just for Terry - Feeding Fatty and for having a much better life, but, uh, the point you make about it enhances our leadership qualities and makes us better leaders and also helps us to set an example. I mean, I think that's such an important message that, um, I think sometimes we miss that. We, we always think that, you know, we're no matter what condition our body may be in that we're operating at the maximum capacity and that's just not true.

Paul (00:01:50):

You're absolutely correct. It is. And it's amazing to me, how many leaders do not make the connection between their physical soul and their mental self and how both of those have to be aligned before you can lead a high-performance team and before you can be a high-performance on your own. Uh, so yes, part of my coaching process is to remind that person that is in a leadership position, that there is an obligation that they owe to their team to make sure that they are doing self care and self care we're supposed to the physicality, as well as the mental aspect of, of who they are and what they need to do so that they can perform at that high level and help people and other people, uh, reach their potential.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:02:40):

Yeah, because there's just so much that's coming at us every day. And, uh, I tell you, uh, there are days that after it's over, I feel, uh, as washed out as if I'd have climbed a mountain, you know, just sitting here thinking, and sometimes I kind of jokingly say Terry - Feeding Fatty, I'm I'm, I over-thought today. You I'm kind of a little bit sluggish here and when we get through, but it does take a toll on you and everyday, lately.

Paul (00:03:06):

Oh yeah. I think that the pandemic has added that extra layer of, of Mead to first be aware of the toll, the emotional toll that the pandemic is taking, and it was not good bet. It actually has nothing to do with the impact on you. It has to do with the impact on other people in our society. And as we interact with them as leaders, whenever you have an interaction with a team member, if you're doing your job all the time, that interaction is over, there's been a transfer of energy. If you're doing your job, you hopefully are giving that person a jolt of energy. Uh, but at the same time, you're taking stress off of them by doing that and adding it to your own burn. And we often forget that and that at the end of the day, we not only have our own stress, but we have that accumulated stress from 10 members who are suffering through situation that we're trying to help them with.

Paul (00:04:07):

That, you know, one of those things about let's separate work and life. We keep talking about this weird balance that we believe exists. And I think that pandemic very clearly showed that our work in our life is integrated and that it's stress in our life. We don't get to leave it when we go to work. And so it comes with us as a team leader. We have to be cognizant of when a team member is starting to suffer from the amount of stress in assist them with wellbeing. Uh, and but when we do that again, we achieve them rate their spots and you need to do something with that bottle. I, to think what people to do is it's so gratifying when I feel like I've had a tough day, the first thing I should do with the pie I deserve, I've worked hard to get that pie.

Paul (00:05:00):

It tastes good. Somebody made it and I'm going to eat it, or let's, let's get more serious. I'm going to drink, uh, over eating and drinking are two things that I've seen increased dramatically among leaders, just because they are trying to alleviate the stress that they've accumulated now, worst way to do it ever. Uh, I actually believe that that increases stress. Oh, how again, because your body now has to deal with what you're doing to it. You have the stress may very well be mental and physically are you psychically dealing with that emotional, but when you start taking that and abusing your physicality, then you start over eating then over drinking and not exercising, not sleeping enough. Well, guess what, we now have that double whammy. Yeah. And the reality is that it just, it destRoy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Positions your ability to be an effective,

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:05:56):

I would assert as a, as a stress eater. Um, I've not, you know, fortunately I've never been, uh, you know, a big drinker, but I am a big eater and, you know, I don't, I think it satisfies us without dealing with whatever that was. So I think, you know, just for the moment, yeah. And we accumulate, well, not only if we are, are we accumulating the excess weight? We're probably are, it's harder for our bodies to digest, to, to use that. But then we really haven't dealt with that underlying issue. And the other thing I was going to say right quick is I, I, I don't know about this because Harry is very supportive, but I would assert that it's the opposite that we can carry our home life over into our work life. So if we don't have that squared away, you know, there's really no separation. It, it, it, at the end of the day, it all just really blurs and runs together.

Paul (00:06:51):

It does. And again, the pandemic I think has because of what it's done with work, right? It's eliminated 40% of the workforce from going away from the home to actually do their work. And that's a shock while people, I mean, I'm much, if everybody whines about the fact that they've got a commute whines about the office, reality is that it's an escape for some people, they get to meet the home environment and go someplace else where even though they have a job, the reality is it's a much different level of responsibility and stress. A job stress is still there by the way. And obviously you've got a bad team leader. You will suffer as if you've got a bad marriage. It doesn't go away and you paid that price. But most of the time people go to work and, and they're okay. Yeah. It's, it's a change of scenery and they appreciate that.

Paul (00:07:43):

The pandemic of course eliminated that. And we weren't able to adjust real well. That's why, when I hear about people who want to go back to the office, I know I can tell them things are normally not going well for you because you should not want to go back to that back page. Right. That's the way I look at it. We are still managing officers with an industrial age mindset, right? We're, we're all about. Uh, and by the way, I look at it, unfortunately too many, too many managers as if they were prison bars. And by the way, and I'm going to, obviously, we're going to get to the fact that I am an expo. And so I'm real familiar with prison guards. And I could tell you that there are supervisors at vantages who would, if you gave them the, the, uh, the uniform and the club, that's exactly what they would read in the workplace.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:08:35):

Wow. Nope. You're ex you're exactly right about that. It, and for Mo you know, I guess, uh, it's off topic a minute, but it just say that, you know, that comes from not having good hires. You know, when we don't make the right hires, you know, we feel like we have to stand over them. Where when we give, we make the good hires, we give people the tools. They should be, you know, there's, uh, saw something the other day. It said, you know, they should be telling us what to do, not as telling them what to do, they should be. And I had a team builder that I talked to on the business show the other day. And, you know, she was talking about a lot of times when we hire people, we feel like they drag us down because we have to now manage them. But that's a bad hire. We should be hiring people that push us forward and really help us accelerate all again, off topic. But I do understand, you know, what you're saying about the, um, know that prison analogy is that, you know, watching the clock, what time did this guy come in as a time to let them out for lunch yet? You know, can we let them go home? Just

Paul (00:09:39):

It's. One of the biggest complaints about working from home is that we don't trust people to do the work. And therefore we put surveillance on the theater. Uh, we don't try. We just know we, we feel like we've got to watch the, you know, the bucks have to be in the seats so we can watch the blood work. And the reality is out of an eight hour day, but butts only do 2.5 hours. So apparently it's not working well. Yeah. It tell you that that system does not engage people. Uh, Gallup does the research, 35% engagement across the United States. And by the way, we celebrate that as if it's a victory. It's not a victory. It's a defeat when we have that many people, 65% of our workforce, that it, that are not engaged. It's not working. I scream, I cannot understand readership that when you said about how you hire people, you're absolutely correct. We don't want to be managed anymore. People find it offensive and it's with the exception of one group, but we were going a little bit off topic. I know that's not what we're supposed to be talking about, but what the reality is that that, that, that mindset of I'm gonna manage you is our cake. Yeah. And therefore it causes people to do one of two things, the absolutely stress or be rebellious, and either way you get less productivity. Yeah. Yep.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:11:06):

Yeah. And that, you know, for me, of course, we don't have kids, you know, we're at that point in life that it's the two of us and we are pretty responsible adults most of the time. And we could sit and do our stuff. And I actually thrive at the house because I don't have the interruptions of being in an office. And I jokingly say that, you know, 20 years ago when I went to an office downtown, uh, I thought it was really cool. You know, you go out for lunch, go out after and have a drink, but then it got to be, as it started, it turned into a social club. And then, so I'd start shutting my door because you know, what happened was people would come by and want to chit chat all day long. And then at six o'clock I'm like, yeah, okay, well, I can start my work now because I've had all my socialize.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:11:53):

Well, I shut the door. Then people would just bust through the door and actually got where I put a chair in front of the door where they had to have a little more effort anyway. So again, way off, let's get back to getting healthy. So let's, let's talk about some first steps. Um, you know, we talk a lot about not only our diet, but sleep and I've admitted, admitted to you that, you know, sleep is usually the beginning of the downfall for me, for the not exercising for the not eating. And then it's like bad decision-making and then it's like maybe even a little bit of a shortness. So anyway, let's talk about how sleep affects us, you know, in, in our leadership roles.

Paul (00:12:33):

Well, again, uh, the research and I am a research week shows that if you don't get enough sleep, and when we already believe we know how much sleep is enough sleep, we know we continually trick ourselves. We believe we can get back, but we still think we're in college. It knows what to call it. And I'm going to cry. I'm going to stay up all night and cram for the test. Uh, and then of course we think we're going to do well on the test. And reality is we don't, uh, so sleep sleep they had in performance are intertwined. You can't escape it, right? We, we, our body needs a certain amount of rest. And by the way, I look at it, it's not just some rest. It's a certain kind of risk. You actually have to get into REM sleep. And that requires the environment, allow you to do that.

Paul (00:13:19):

It also means that you've got to distress enough so that your mind stops race, uh, because it is a, you come home and, and hopefully, you know, and again, I think that people say, well, three or four glasses of wine and, and I'm good to go. I can, I can lay down and go to sleep, but not tell them that is not good sleep for you. Right? So, so the reality is that if you don't get enough sleep, your level of performance is that a big drunk driver, you have lost the ability to be in full to a certain degree. You are, you are waiting to have an accident. You're waiting to make them wrong decision. And you had said it, Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position, you get sure, right? Why? Well, we're tired. We're tired. Every everything becomes more acute for us, right? We're, we're, we're more aggravated by a situation we're aggravated by people.

Paul (00:14:13):

Uh, when I was a practicing attorney, I made sure that my client was never sentenced in the afternoon because I knew that by that time, the judge who probably cranky in the morning was out only cranky, but he was tired and he would look at the hip and my client differently. And I guarantee you, because research shows it, he would give out a stricter sentence now. Huh? That's just the way we operate, why we get tired? And once we get tired, we don't like people that they are a nuisance to us, push them away, deep members, can't it. And by the way, team members are pretty astute, right? They're not stupid. They say, Hmm. I can tell them that the boss is not in a good mood today. The boss is tired of it. Stay away from him. Don't tell him the truth today, because that's what it amounts to guess what that situation that needed to be discussed and taken care of.

Paul (00:15:10):

Doesn't get discussed because the boss is tired of it. Oh my God. This is a recipe for disaster. Yeah. So yeah. So the sleep aspect of it when I talked to my clients about this, because I believe that it's a part of my obligation to point out the obvious. I tell people I make, I make my living off of pointing out the obvious. We know these things because when I asked you what you should be doing as a client, they'll tell me right away. And then the question is, are you doing it right? And that's where we get the hesitation. Why? Because they're trying to figure out candy telephones more than a lie to him, right? You're like when we go to the dentist and they say your, and he'd go every night, I probably got tired of saying that. I said, no, I don't loss.

Paul (00:15:59):

And he said, well, you should. I said, I know that, but I don't. What do you want me to tell you and write to you again? So anyway, he said no, by a flossing machine, instead of the threat, actually that works. Ah, that's what I look at with, with my clients. I go, let's talk about what is going to make you sleep right? And we had that discussion. Uh, you have to have a sleep environment. It has to be dark. Uh, you have to not eat or drink when you go to bed. I mean, there's this whole list of things and them. And then, then of course, a part of my job is to say, if you agree to do this, so you can be a better leader. I'm going to ask you when we talk next, are you doing no? And I had a pretty good in time.

Paul (00:16:45):

And if I can sense that you're lying to me, we have a different discussion. Right, right. But what people are willing to try step by step. So, so back to that, I don't want to overreact to the sleeping thing. We put the door in one of the aspects of self care, but it's a very important one. The people don't pay enough attention. Yep. My son is a perfect example. They have like, they have a mattress that I wouldn't let a dog walk. And I talk about, I said, I will, you need, you need a better mattress. I'm just, my dad mean it's like, you're sleeping in a hammock. You and I know that it impacts him because I can tell when he's had a bad, night's sleep so bad back on time. So, so there's a whole list of criteria that I will be with people being a better leader.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:17:30):

I think it's important on the sleep is, uh, like you said, it's, it's more than just laying down or being in the bed at night and waking up in the morning. There's a lot we need to do to prepare ourselves for that rituals. Yes. Yeah. And I'm going to, I'm going to turn this up just a little bit where Terry - Feeding Fatty can, Terry - Feeding Fatty, can you, well,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:17:50):

You know, but Oh no, this is a setup,

Paul (00:17:55):

Which you said the magic. She said the magic word enrichment. Yeah. We need a sleep ritual that we follow just without fail. Why? Because that's how we get to the state of being able to sleep. And part of that has got to be how you do stress from the deck. Yeah. And, and meditation is something that most leaders know about, but feel, it's it feel it's girl, most of my clients are male. And when I talk about some of their stuff, they're like, well, you know, our old, you want me to do yoga naps? Maybe. Yeah.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:18:32):

They could only dream of being girly.

Paul (00:18:35):

Exactly. I told them, I said, well, players [inaudible] bounce. So stop reading this stuff. Doesn't matter if it doesn't work, can you try something else? But buy it open-minded enough to try it. But the ritual is extremely important. Same type of bed every night, turn off the devices. Or know what if the president of United States wants to get in touch with him, believe me, the secret service would get there. Those world. You don't have to stay awake. Wait for them. All right. So, so it's important to turn off the devices. People will leave their notifications on, make me nuts. You really need to hear the Dean have another text at midnight. Yeah. Don't do that anyways. So yeah, we've got a whole, a whole situation, but that's extremely important to in Richmond.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:19:26):

Yeah. I th I thought that was the setup part. Cause I we've been trying to not use our phones before we go to bed. You know, I like to go through there and check out the social media and look at the hits. Look at the jokes. Look at now.

Paul (00:19:43):

Oh my God. It'll keep it. Yeah. I, and I know that everybody has their own methods too. And I've got mine. My wife and I, 10 30 is cut off. I've trained myself to work 10 30. I don't care. What's going on. I'll tell people, you got to want it. It better be the weekend because I've got to get up in the morning and I've got a five o'clock I'm more. Yeah. And I've got to be prepared to go through six or seven hours of coaching. And the last person of the day is entitled to my complete attention and energy level is the first person I to do that if I'm tired. So at 10 30, everybody goes away and we go in and man do the brush and floss. And then, and I turn on Perry, Mason. Oh yes, this is my red school.

Paul (00:20:35):

Can I go? I don't want to see any of the beginning of permits. I want to get to the core because I can't, I don't practice them. We're right. And it was sorry, as it may seem watching Barry, basically everything, it would be 10, 15 minutes. I've gone. That's how I do it. It takes my mind in a different place. Right. And it's not necessarily entertaining. I think I've seen them all like six or seven, eight times, but it just got a trick with trips, the trigger, right. We're constantly tricking ourselves to do the right thing because we apparently can't do it on our own. And it might go in and I don't turn it on. My wife goes, turn on, turn off during this. And by the way, she hates paradise and she knows that I'm going to go to sleep, but then she can do whatever she wants. It doesn't matter. But anyway, that's the rich, you know, I'm also up at five o'clock in the morning. It does. It's not five Oh one and I don't need an alarm.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:21:33):

Yeah. Now I think he made a good point about your clients. And I, I, I guess we, we can put this in the, every manager's point of view is that the very last decision that we make of our Workday, we should give it as much time, attention and thought, and we should have the right attitude and be in the right place as we did for that very first one. And so that, that's a big deal if we think about that, but let's, uh, talk about some other points of self care. Uh, you know, sleep definitely for me is very important, but what are some other things that you talk about?

Paul (00:22:06):

Well, and you know, my experiences, uh, it is, I tell them, I, again, there's a research that shows if you're the CEO or president of an organization, you may have the same personality as a serial killer. And I believe that I was as a trial lawyer, you got some of that. I mean, that's just, that's what the followup probably was confrontation in combat. I mean, it really is. The judge is there to keep you from killing each other and make sure that you abide by the rules of the game, but it is exactly that. So your mindset is, is really very much about winning at all costs. I, and by the way, uh, the concept is for every hour in court, you've got a trial, you've got four hours of preparation. Oh, wow. And when you're in trial on trial, you've got to leave that courtroom and go back to wherever you are and air the next day.

Paul (00:23:02):

Because once you're on trial, you may go through your four weeks in this year, four or five days a week, depending on the judge has scheduled. But it is there's no, there's no relaxing, right? So I would actually get a room downtown. I have, since I practice in federal court. So I didn't have to commute back and forth. But the reality was that there was no way that any lawyer that I knew that was probably, or could keep up that pace, uh, without, without hell. And at the time, uh, it was drink yourself a you can sleep right. And drugs, cocaine was the drug of choice for me. And, uh, obviously you can't do that warm before it starts to have an impact on your ability cook for, but it would get you through the day. Right? And so at some point go, uh, I was disrupted self-destruct.

Paul (00:23:53):

I tell people that self-inflicted wounds is, is where I got all my stars, but most people, other people have given them scars. I would give myself stocks. Uh, and I did that. And I think there were a lot of leaders do that. They, they don't be the softer thing. They do just the opposite. They do self abuse and they believe that they should get away with that. Well, my, uh, my self abusing days, and then when I went to post, because suddenly my life changed overnight, I went from being the guy that was in charge. It would be that hard drive driving attorney that had that win, win situation at all costs, including cheating. Uh, I had that self abuse when it came to alcohol and drugs, and I hit a, an environment that, you know, there's all sorts of prison rules that I have that I developed that actually they had carried with them when I came out.

Paul (00:24:47):

I don't think anymore. Definitely don't do drugs because I found out the first, it turned me into someone I didn't want to be. And second, it has an impact on you physically and mentally. And I just don't have enough of that. Well, uh, I've got to be able to protect what I've got now, but when you show up and it doesn't, and the first thing that, uh, that they tell you is you ain't running nothing and that's the case. And you don't want to be a lawyer to most in prison because the experience is not a pleasant. And the warden made sure that the first day I showed up, we had a personal conversation that was after I had a full-body cabin search. And the easy told me in no uncertain terms, if I find out that you're helping anybody else with their case might find out you're breaking the rules.

Paul (00:25:34):

I will send you to the higher security prison behind the wire, where you'll be with the real bad who was in prison. And it's not a holiday, believe me, but it certainly isn't. There will be guys who have been convicted more. Yeah. Uh, and so my deal was don't make my time any harder or any longer. And from that point on to make sure that prison for five and a half years, it didn't destRoy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position me. I went into self care, just no drinking, no drugs exercise every day, every day, seven days a week. I, the track walking, doing weights, all the things. And I never would've considered doing in my week prison practice wouldn't have done it. You couldn't have convinced me. Uh, and, and I survived five and a half years and came out of prison in better shape and nine. Yeah. Wow. Mentally sharp.

Paul (00:26:31):

Uh, why I took the Medicaid, I met dish. Uh, I did, uh, I did philosophy. I did the mental things that kept me, kept me curious and alive and vital in a, a prison setting. Uh, I tell people the worst part about this and is how boring it is. And it is long pieces of time that it was absolutely boring, punctuated by violence. And you've never know when there's going to be that whole situation. Yeah. So you have to be a world because you don't know what the guy next to you just heard from his wife. Then maybe he got the dear John letter that, and that guy is now ready to explode and give him any point whatsoever we will do. But with the boredom is what you had to deal with. And I dealt with it by keeping myself entertained because prison wasn't going to entertain.

Paul (00:27:26):

So when I came out of prison, I had a routine that I, that I then applied to my life back in the world. And he got into coaching. I said, let me make sure that what I'm doing has relevance to my clients. And it turns out that it has absolutely does so that when I talk about self care, I talked about the experience that I had then, and I have now because I, the guy that gets up and goes to work as a team leader is required to do all of the things we talk about taking care of himself, but taking care of the team, right? And at some point it takes a total. It's all about how are we going to remedy the toll. And that has to occur in a couple of different ways, work the best and for when you're not at work, but it also has to approach art because I tell people, you need to watch the matrix because we all are a battery and we get up here good morning.

Paul (00:28:27):

And we hopefully are fully charged. Now we're not fully charged. Let's have the discussion about why we're not right. That's because, because we ate too much, we grabbed him up. We didn't get enough sleep, whatever it may be. Uh, so we need to be fully child. That means let's stop. Let's look at the night before. But from that point on during the day, you are slowly losing your energy out of that physical battle. And that, that starts to impede the mental process, the decision process, by the way, the workplace does not care. If that's what's happened to you. Yeah. They don't care if he had a bad night of work bad, and I had a sweep level, they don't care if it's been a bad morning, none of that matters to the workplace, right. It just going to keep coming. And that's your job. You either, you either decide that's my job and I'm going to do it to the must of my ability.

Paul (00:29:18):

And if that's true and you believe that, and you accept your obligation to the team, as well as to yourself, then you need to make sure you were on peak physical and mental vision. Just like an athlete. That the only difference is we don't get the practices waiters because we're actually doing it every day. We don't, we don't six days and then perform on but seven. And that gives the athlete the advantage. And by the way, every, every athlete I know has a coach. You know, whether they have a coach, even though they are professionals, they still need to get better, right? The situation around them, the team they're going to play. The person on the other side is getting better. They have to get better too. So, so for leaders, they have to continually not only be in the moment they have to prepare for the next month and during the day, the battery starts to, it starts to lose its power.

Paul (00:30:18):

That means that during the day you have to do what you can to re-energize yourself, how you do that is as important as what you did the night before. Are you getting are reading correctly? Well, let's go. Let's all go out and have, uh, a, uh, a McDonald's big Mac, uh, the large order of fries, because the small orders never enough. Can we have 32 ounces of sugar and water? Let's do it. Let's let's really have a lunch. That's going to kill us off where we close, where we cut back. I don't care what you think your body's saying all the blood that used to go to your brain. So you can make a decision has now gone to your stomach because we don't have a choice. We got to deal with that alone, down there. And guess what? That's, when you start to become dumb.

Paul (00:31:10):

I, you know, it's a curiosity. I believe that most decisions, depending by the over the track list, the don't wonder is our after watch, we have the three o'clock slot. I don't mean I can tell you all of the things we already met. So when I'm talking to my clients, it's about first stop that, stop that eating and breaking that is to you in the afternoon. Not telling me not to eat, but I'm telling you that you have to be cognizant and buy it all the time. If by the way people are like, you're just like the Grinch. I mean, when do I get to have some fun? Okay. Would you have them as long as you're willing to tell me the cost, all I want to know is the cost. And if you're willing to accept the cost, then one of two things, either I have to question whether or not you should be the team winner, right. Or you have somehow managed to work it out. Somehow I'd tell me, tell me you've got the magic wand. Right? Cause I like to hear that, but I don't see it. No, one's got it yet.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:32:15):

Okay. I was just going to say no, no, you're fine. I was just, you bring up a good point. And um, uh, you know, I have to put myself out there on this one and that is a big thing for me. It's like when, uh, when we're eating right. Uh, I feel a little bit, I feel a little cheated. Let me just put it that way because you know, I was like, and my favorite example is not long ago. Uh, Terry - Feeding Fatty fixed an awesome, it was salmon and asparagus dinner. And we had enough for lunch the next day. And I, I didn't realize that. So she was out, she called me, said, I'm heading back home. When I get back, we'll eat. And I was like, Oh, she's going to stop and get us a, uh, was so excited. She goes, stop at the Chick-fil-A and she going to get us a chicken thing.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:33:04):

And some of those fries sandwiches, and the next words out of her mouth was, yeah, we've got that salmon and asparagus. And I, I will not lie to you. I just deflated all the outlet. I saw it through the phone and it's, it's so bizarre that, you know, I let food, uh, drive that emotion. And you know, so one thing that we talk about all the time is we're trying to shift that mentality from food and fun, you know, to food is to live. And then we should find other things to be fun. We could still go out with friends, but we don't have to eat all the, you know, the bad stuff that is around that. Or we can get a veggie plate or a SA I mean, there's things to do if you really think about it. And the fun is going out to be with friends and socializing. It's not because we're sitting there stuff in our face with something live to eat, it's eat to live. Yeah.

Paul (00:34:02):

I believe that people look at food as a reward. And if I be sure, because I've been good all day long, I deserve a reward for that. And the reward is going to be like I said, hi. Yeah. So, so we have to have that mental cheat, by the way. Let me tell ya. I am a terrible eater. I, it, in Italian beef and sausage sandwich, that's like my blood. I need it. Right. I tell her I'm half Italian. I, every once in a while I got a grease up. Well, it's every once in a while it's daily. And when I do that, by the way I have, I, you know, I, I continually trick myself. That's the only way that sometimes I'd get there. Right. And one of the tricks is this ring, my wedding ring when I am eating poorly. I know because I can't get it all white.

Paul (00:34:58):

I mean, you swallow up smaller because of the sodium and the rest of that grip, your dad, Ray will be tight. And I know. All right. Just dumb. Exactly. Right. Thank you. See right away, you sound like my wife dumb today. Yeah. I can't get my ring off. Yeah. Well, that's that Italian beef. We had last review. And yet it is, it is, it is truly just changing our mental outlook on food. Yeah. W we don't need as much. Oh my God. The proportions in the United States, please go. Any place else in the world. I love pasta. And the deal is, if you go out to a olive garden, if you've got it, they get whatever they have. They give you a meal, plus a meal to take home. Yeah. That go to Italy, you get about a quaint, you get something like that right up in a pitch in the Palm, your hand, it's delicious. And it's enough. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it started hitting. We can't turn it off now,

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:36:01):

You know, and we're so conditioned, at least, um, in my environment growing up and I'm not blaming people for it. I'm just saying, this is just the way it is. It's that? So, uh, you had a bad day today. Well, let's go out and get something to eat. That'll make you feel better. Or it's like, um, Oh my gosh, something went great today. We'll, let's go eat and celebrate. You know, it's like, it's like trying to deprogram a little bit from everything revolves around that food. It should revolve around, you know, our conversation in our relationships. And we can figure out a way to be more healthy and still do that too, because I'm, you know, and I, again, I'm saying I'm guilty of that. I feel like, Oh, well, if I can't go out and have the fried appetizers and the big old, whatever the meal is, and maybe have a couple drinks, well, then I'm just not going to have fun. And that's, that's not true at all. Not true at all.

Paul (00:36:54):

Well, and I've found that I'm an automatic either. If I've got it, I've ordered it and I'm, well, it was just really going to taste good, but I'll get engaged in the conversation with someone and I'm still eating. Right. They haven't stopped. And suddenly I realized I've had the entire dinner. I didn't taste any of it. It's just gone. And so, so you're absolutely right. Why would we go out? We should be going out, not, not to dinner, even though that's our socialization. Yeah. We're going out for the company. We went out for the, the vet entertainment, whatever it may be. So, yeah, no. And let me get the last one, because it, it, obviously the exercise is huge and everybody has to be dedicated to exercise. Like I tell people once again, these are, and by the way, I'm a strong believer in developing habits because when the habit you stop having to make the choice to were terrible, given the choice between the pie and the salad, I take the pot.

Paul (00:37:55):

However, if the pie is not even there, I don't do anything but the sell. So I removed the term age. Right. And we do that through the development of habits and good habits. Exactly. Remove temptation. We don't think about it. I am. I, again, once I get to the exercise part, uh, at five o'clock and then the alarm goes off, my exercise goals are, are at the side of the bed. I get dressed and I'm out the door. If I were to stop and turn on the computer or look at my wall, I never make it to the gym. Right. And so I refuse to do that. I've developed a head and I'm fine with it. I go, I do my, and come back. I get my coffee. That's my reward. By the way, I believe in rewards. I get my Starbucks. And then I actually looked at my phone.

Paul (00:38:42):

I refused to look at it until what, because then I'm ready to start the day. But we've got to develop that. And exercise is one of those things, absolutely critical. A hybrid form. You have, your body has a body needs to move. That's built into us, right? I mean, the whole concept of who we are is so connected to the physicality of who we are. And if we forget that we can get that. I don't know how many thousands of years we still are as that, that, that prehistoric guy coming out of the cave, getting ready to go hunting veteran. It's all about being physical and you can't ignore or avoid that, or you pay the price. And the issue is more to pay the price. And again, I go back and I connected to being the team leader. If you want to be a leader of a hyperchloremic team, you are the model.

Paul (00:39:37):

Therefore you have to perform at that level also. So that's your obligation. You tell me, you want to prepare your observation. If you're doing, you have to exercise. I also believe that even though exercise at the beginning of the day, the end of the day, whatever you want to do, the concentrated exercise is important equally as important is what are you moving? Are you moving during the day? Because again, we are wearing down as the day goes on. Are you getting up after every 90 minutes? Because that's what the research shows you cannot focus well, more than 90 minutes, get up and do a physical activity. What do I recommend walking? Yep. Go outside. Outside. Well, we had been getting the vitamin D being outside is refreshing to your body. The air smells good, right? It's not the air conditioning. It is fresh air, but as best as it can be, and you do the wall 15 minutes all the way. If you want to take a call while you're on that, because I got some guys who just can't build it that way, take the call. Just don't stop moving.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:40:44):

It's especially important. Now that everybody's working from home and they're just sitting in their chairs, fixed to their desk and do it. Yes. Yes.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:40:55):

Well, and I will say that I, when I started wearing my step counter watch, and it's embarrassing to actually admit this, but in our house, when I would stay in and work all day, I could end my day with less than 600 steps. I mean, it's just, yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous. And so we really have to fight, but that is something that we've been doing, uh, some days easier than others, but try to get out and go for that walk in the morning, just to 10, 15, 20 minutes, nothing hard. Just taking the dogs out. It gives us a good time to, to have some conversation about day and how we're going to start it, what we're going to, who's doing what, when and where. And, uh, you know, I told her, I guess it was yesterday morning when we came in, I just felt so fresh and vibrant and ready to jump in and tackle things. It's just amazing how that makes me feel.

Paul (00:41:50):

And that's how it makes everybody feel if they do it. And I, as I am today, assuming that it's not a blizzard out, there's a woods close to us and my wife and I go, and we do a 45 minute walk through the woods specifically through the woods, because I'm a believer in what they call forest washing. Well, if you've thought about it in that, but it's a Japanese thing. And they have the research shows that when you walk through a forest, it has a different impact on you than if you're just walking. And that's about the trees. There's this whole thing of interconnectivity with trees and how, if there was a forest, if it is an environment that's being created and the reality is walking through there, it actually is like a wash. Your can wash. You go over, you will wave. Now. I am a big believer in stuff that I know works. And I know the walking through there not only refreshes me, but it actually makes me more creative.

Paul (00:42:53):

When I walked out of that forest. After 45 minutes, I'm usually I've got two or three things that suddenly are apparent to me. I, you know, I knew a point to the day, every day, it goes out to my subscribers and I'll come out of there with three or four points. It just something that's working in my head that suddenly is available through this process. And people were like, that doesn't work yet. You've got to go and really do. You've got to commit to it and, and commit to it a couple of weeks. And before you you'll notice, when you stop, that's not good.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:43:27):

That's an interesting concept because we live in a very wooded area and I'm the same way. You know, it scares her when I go walking by myself, because when I go out, I'll come back. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I got like five great ideas. Get your pencil and paper out. And let's talk about this stuff. And she's like, yeah,

Paul (00:43:45):

But I truly believe that that, that is a part of this process that we don't understand the Japanese do. And like I said, it's called horse washing. I recommend that. And people like that, no, I'm not going to do that. Okay. Then just get out and walk in the center. I don't care where you're walking close to the trees. That's true. Look at the trees. But the reality is that that during the day we need to reenergize and you don't want to take, no, everybody does a coffee, but okay. You're artificially stimulant. So by the way, I, it Starbucks fanatic. I've got it in my Bible. I won't stop. If I'm not doing five of them a day, it's not a good day. That's crazy. And yet I can show you the health benefits of coffee got this. My wife would say, yeah, let's stop.

Paul (00:44:39):

It's so important that you're overdoing it, but don't just go to the coffee machine because what's going to happen is you're going to engage somebody. It's not going to be at 12, go outside, take your cup of coffee with you. Walk, get some exercise, come back in. You'll feel better. You'll be more alert. And by the way, I love the concept of the afternoon. Now it's just not realistic. You know, the whole concept of 20 minute nap. If three o'clock in the afternoon, it makes absolute sense because it, it can't be any longer than 20 minutes. You're going to run to sleep. So the reality is drink a cup of coffee, take your 20 minute nap. And how do you wake yourself up while we've got own? It's got an alarm on it. I mean, I'm kidding me and wake you up and you get up and move a revitalize, but we're looking for that push for the end of the day, right? Because that's, again, if we're not doing these things, we start to make that decision. And nobody is going to say, if your boss walks in and says, I need an answer on this, are you going to say, well, wait till I get a good night's sleep.

Paul (00:45:45):

They're like, what are you talking about? That's true. So, so yeah, those are the things. And again, I wish I could tell you there's something revolutionary, but if it was, I would have written a book and retire. No, these are common sense approaches that I don't believe most coaches are willing to address the clients because they think that's too personal. Yeah. It is absolutely connected to performance. And I bill myself as a no BS workplace book performance call, I'm going to talk to you about your performance promise. I'm going to start at that basic level, not how you're interacting with anybody else, how you're interacting with yourself, or are you taking care of yourself? I don't believe you can take care of others if you don't take care of yourself. Right. That's right. That's been an underlying theme lately for all of our speakers. So there's

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:46:41):

The other thing I wanted to tie into this rack quickly is just, uh, you know, you said earlier, if we make these habits, they're not decisions anymore, but I think we can go a little bit deeper into that for just a second, that the amount of decisions that come at us every day, we have to develop these routines and habits. And, uh, your old friend from Chicago, the ex president Obama he's famously for having, um, and you can tell it better, but I think they're all gray suits and the same ties and everything. So he just says, look, I got hundreds of decisions I have to make every day. You know, when he was president, the last thing I need to do is decide, is this the right color tie to go with this shirt to go with this coat, with these shoes and these socks. Yeah.

Paul (00:47:30):

And you're actually growing it. It's called this decision fatigue. Yeah. And you're right. Let, let's eliminate the, the necessity of making the decision. Right. And by the way, we, we, if, if we keep having too many temptations, we inevitably make the bed. Right. Right. And by the way, that's also beads in the delegation of the issue. Because when I started listening to the decision, we're making one, like, seriously, you're being paid. How much to make that decision. Right. That's that's not yours. So anyway, but you're absolutely correct. And so eliminate the decision-making process, reduce it, take it away. And by the way, I I'm, uh, I'm, I'm really huge about talking to my clients about big rocks, which are the big rocks that you are, you are required to move. Because if you're telling me that you're not spending your time and energy on the big rocks, 80% of the day, you've got a problem.

Paul (00:48:32):

You can't move the big rock, otherwise getting rid of the locks. And everybody's like, well, how do you make that decision? I may actually come up with a big rock, a filter. And that everybody has to, when you, when you say to me, I'm going to take one, a task, a new task is like, let's go through the big lock filter. Well, wait a minute that doesn't, that's not a big rock. It's not attached to a big rock. It's not anything that has to do with a big rock. Maybe change locks, because I'm all right with you telling me, this is now a big rock, but by the way, that's not what you're telling me there. I had a guy across of a company that occupied his time looking at t-shirts that were going to be handed out. Oh my goodness. I don't have any problem with you looking at two or three t-shirts and picking the one you like, that should be like that.

Paul (00:49:22):

Oh my God. He was involved in the manufacturing similar from China. Oh my gosh. But, but by the, well, see, he liked that he liked doing that. That was the simple, but I said, so let him, and I also believe time audits are required from time management. Therefore, every one of my clients has to do a monthly time on it. At the end of that day, then we do 24 hours. We then take a look at how you're spending your time. And that's where I get to say, that's not how you should be spending your time. Yeah, no, like when you don't understand the, I absolutely. Obviously you don't know how to say no. So let's talk about that, right? Because we can't say no, you can't read a team can't we, it, uh, so, so let me get one more thing that I missed last time off people, don't take their vacation basically crazy.

Paul (00:50:18):

You've got five weeks of vacation. You worked your butt off all year, and you're not going to take your vacation because people won't think you're interested in work that you've given enough of yourself to the job, but you shouldn't take your vacation. Americans leave 30% of their vacation hours unused, and they don't even get paid for it. In most instances, you really, to revitalize by getting away from the work environment, going someplace, I don't care where it is go someplace where it's different lecture. So be relaxed. My contention is you need a week before you relax that decompression does not take place overnight. The concept of getting to wherever you're going is usually worse than, Oh my God, did we pack the

Paul (00:51:21):

All home along? Wait a minute. One of the kids when the kids have done. So, so Ms. Russell getting there does not mean, you know, everybody says why I walk or who you're not, you're not all working to actually got where you're going to go. And then you can start. Yeah. And the deal is that's the time when your brain starts to work on interesting. It's not been one day, not the usual, by the way, if you're doing your emails and your, whatever, I have a client and I test one vacation and I send them an email. If they answer, um, they get an email back. What the, uh, are you answering this email? Well, I thought it was, God stopped baking to do that thing. You're on vacation and it required walk your life. You're doing that. Then you're not doing what a vacation school.

Paul (00:52:22):

Once again, revitalize reenergize, and hopefully give you a different perspective. What's interesting about country chattering was going to a different culture, not being in the American resort, but actually going out into the, what the baby is. Habitat is extraordinary to me about opening your mind. Don't [inaudible] we don't know American though. We don't like that. We don't like anything. Good. I mean, if it's not a handbook, but we know after you've been in Japan and had sushi like this in the bounds around, Oh God, a whole night, otherwise we need to go farther into the concept. Now that is so, so all of this is about making you better. So when you come back from the vacation, you absolutely are ready to be a better leader. Maybe more open to an idea, by the way, just a great book out by Adam Grant said that I can remember who babe it's think again. Uh, and I've recommended that to everyone in my coaching program, because he talks about the need to be thinking and rethinking how we do what we do. Yeah.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:53:37):

There's a lot of research out there. It was a first pointed out with children, you know, that we have them. So over-scheduled that they don't have the opportunities like I did that. You know, you walked out of the house on a summer day and you found the rock and a stick and you figured out something to do with that all day, we were a little more creative and I think it translates into our adult life. If we are so bogged down in all of the, you know, the daily stuff, how can you possibly be creative? And you know, me and Terry - Feeding Fatty have this conversation a lot that, you know, sometimes during the week we get bogged down, just, um, you know, producing things and get on them out the door that we really don't have the time to think about innovation and new and different things. So I, I can say from a personal experience, you've got to do that. You've got to take a few, take some time during the day, take some time during the week, make sure you get those vacations in because you will think a lot more clear and be much more creative for sure.

Paul (00:54:38):

Well, I believe that one of the traits of a good leader is being curious and you can't give cure lists, your stays look at the same thing. The same thing every day, your mind gets, gets that structured. You know, that's what we're looking at when the work is that work is all about being structured. And once we get in there, I mean, my father worked at general motors as a electrician and he hated being in the plant, but he was in Southern Indiana and was the best beans album in 200 miles. And so he did it, but they're there and they told him, Oh 45, when you, once you had leave your mind at the time, I don't want you thinking, we're going to tell you what to do exactly, do it. But I don't want you thinking about this doubt. I don't want you to about making the good, want to hear any of your ideas.

Paul (00:55:32):

And we like to think, because I love the fact that, that one of the arguments about coming back the office is how everybody's going to get together and ideate. First, I even hate the word we can all put together and ideate, right? And from there, we're going to have this innovative creative surge. Well, like it, I think it, you know, I'm not sure where this is supposed to happen, maybe in silicone Valley, but I'm not so sure about that. Either ideas don't go from the bottom up. They're forced on us from the top down. And so thinking that everybody comes together and has a creative explosion does not happen. In fact what the Mimikyu Nicholson, but he goes to their desk wherever it is. And then we're locked in on. Right. And so, but back to this time on weekend time, absolutely decompress. Yeah. Well that's when you should, that's when you should be more physically active, don't go out and kill yourself playing football, but we'll take that extra walk. How about that? Yeah. Yeah. I love people with dogs. A dog will make your, get up, go outside, right. They come to you with the waist and I'm like, dude, really?

Paul (00:56:49):

And I think that that's why we have to be forced to do this.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:56:54):

Yeah. If we are, if we sleep past about six 30 in the morning, we got two of them that are sitting there staring nose to nose with

Paul (00:57:12):

[inaudible]. But those are the things that we need. We need to force ourselves up because how we are living our lives is not natural right now. There is nothing natural about how we live our lives, right? And therefore we are in conflict with who we are naturally in rehab to somehow resolve that conflict. So that we're, we are absolutely able to live a better life because that requires a lot of work requires a lot of attention, but it absolutely can be done. We know. And again, I know I'm beating the same drum. We know what to do, right. Why aren't we doing it? Well, it's hard work. Oh my God. Is that the worst things going, excuse me, worse than that is I don't have enough time. Like seriously, don't even start with that. That's not the problem. It's what you're doing with your time. That's a problem. So, so, you know, everybody's got the same 24 hour buddy. I'm sorry, but if you can't get your job, but we need to look at you back. Yeah. So anyway, but, but yeah, so, so we need that. We need to align and we need to live our lives according to not only our mental reeds, but also our physical needs. And we often wet our physical lead acts, second place realizing that the negative impact is going to have on our mental and our spiritual. Now

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (00:58:36):

You are exactly right. So true. Yeah. I'm sorry. I got to go do my time audit now.

Paul (00:58:45):

Well, by the way, it's a 24 hour audit. Nobody gets, everybody's like, well, I'll just do it through my work. No, I don't even start with me. I want to know what you're doing for 24 hours, because you're going to tell me how much you're sleeping and how much of your time at home is spent working I'll guarantee. It's a couple of hours a night. Well, yeah, but you know, I had dinner with the kids and then I put them in the bed. And so what was I supposed to do? I don't know. But if you're telling me that the best thing in your life at eight o'clock at night is to read company emails, kill yourself now serious. Like, no it won't. Because all they're doing is killing yourself slowly. Get it over with just saying life is not worth living after seven o'clock. I got to shoot itself.

Paul (00:59:33):

There's Perry, Mason Perry. Mason is waiting 48 hours. Well, no. So if you're going to do a Taiwan to do it for the entire 24 hours in a half hour chunks, and you got a, I'll send it to you. And it's also an energy I, time is cool. Your energy level. When you're doing something is necessary, you've got to look at it and go, here's a score. I have low energy, by the way, the task that I'm doing during this period of time, it doesn't let me have more energy. I've got to be consequent. Ah, now we get to talk about what you have to do for that period. Immediately work that your energy gets backed up everybody. And by the way, I w I get so many good pushbacks are notorious, right?

Paul (01:00:27):

I'm sorry. You were telling me every day is different from what you do for a living. Because, because I, I would love that. I don't care who you are. If you're working in American offices every day is structured the same. You may be able to shove them around a little bit, but the duties don't change the past don't change. And you're stuck in that environment. So, no, I don't want to hear that. What I want to hear is that you're going to do this and become aware of what you choose to do would be aware of this is entirely up to you, but it gives us the conversation.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:01:00):

No, that's, that's another great point is the self-awareness the minute we can become aware of how we feel at certain points or how things make us feel. Um, it, it changes, everything changes all of our dynamics

Paul (01:01:15):

And, you know, writing the deal is I look at people and I will, okay, unaware. Then we have aware, how are we going to get there? Well, there's ways three 60 reviews, a time audit, all sorts of objective information is needed to call somebody to say, I need, I need to change. So just me saying it to anybody, it doesn't really impress them. They're like, yeah, you don't want my life. Okay. Well, let, let me give me a glimpse. Give me the 24 hour or let's do a three 60 with your team to find out if you really are a fantastic communicator. I mean, then at the end of that, so we've got the unaware. Then we get the aware and then we get to the group. I love the best, the aware, but I don't care, right? Oh yeah. There is a group of leaders who will tell you flat out, I don't care.

Paul (01:02:08):

I'm not changing what I do. You know, my deal is the most difficult person to coach is someone who's successful. Right. They're afraid that if they change that, that they're going to be successful. Right. My argument is, you're not as good as you think you will. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Oh yeah. Half a wife is random. You were fortunate that the random part been too, right. Seriously, your lawn was working 120 hours a week. And believing that that's sustainable. Come on, man. Don't be stupid. And by the way, after, after he bucked himself, he admitted that he was wrong. Uh, and, but you know what the model works for awhile is the employees are free to go home. Oh no. And he's sleeping in his office. I can't go home because he'll think I'm not engaged. Well, he's stupid. But nobody would tell him that he needed a cost. Do diminishing returns. At some point you may think you're making smart decisions. You're not making your bed. Nobody even knows what you're saying. Right.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:03:14):

He's listening. Yeah, exactly. Well, Paul, we appreciate you taking time out of your day. I know we ran quite long, but it's just, uh, you know, it's a pleasure speaking with you and you have so many good insights. And, uh, we just want to try to soak it all up. Not only, you know, for our audience gets to benefit, but you know, me and Terry - Feeding Fatty, I've taken a lot of, I've got a whole two pages full of notes written down here. So, uh, but before we go, we always ask what is a tool that you use in your daily life that, uh, really adds value tool habit?

Paul (01:03:51):

Um, I may, uh, in the morning after when I get my Starbucks, I'm walking back to, that's a block and a half away. I do my gratitudes because I believe that positivity is too. And you are in control of positivity. If you want to think negative thoughts, you're going to have negative instead of positive. I need to reset realign my unwind before the day starts. And on the way home, I'm driving to the gym, I pray. And I say, well, you know, that's not you should. I communicate with my God in my way. And you know what so far, he has not hit me with a light. I don't care. Who's given me some hard lessons. By the way, my conversation with him is always, Hey, I've given you everything you need to succeed and you don't. Well, let's talk about that. He's got to buy cold gentlemen to see him walking, but I didn't talk to him.

Paul (01:04:55):

Uh, but, but the reality is coming home from Starbucks. I spend that walk doing my gratitudes. My gratitudes are always about what I have to be thankful for in my life, because often we start, we get how, how life is good for us. I mean, I, and you had said that conversation about him, very endemic is not the people. I am so grateful for that. So I do my, my gratitudes. I know my, I do my family and friends and I thank God through the ability that I have to earn a living, doing something that I care about. And that's that to me is the ultimate characteristic of a coach. You've got to care.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:05:44):

Yeah. And I, I really enjoy, uh, enjoy your passion. That's why it's such a pleasure speaking with you because your passion for all of this really does come out. And I know you'd make, uh, you know, people in our audience, a great coach. So, you know, we want you to reach out to Paul, give him a go, Paul, tell people, how can they reach out and get ahold of you.

Paul (01:06:03):

I am such a simple guy. It's called paulglovercoaching.com. That's how you get you just get the dot-com [inaudible] well also on LinkedIn or we're coaching. Uh, you know, I don't do Twitter. I don't, I think that's where maniacs go to scream. Don't do that. Uh, but, but, uh, that, that's where you can finally, I've got a YouTube channel, home, global coaching that YouTube. So that's how people can get in touch with me. Or I am very passionate about what I do, but also I tell people believe the no BS Mark, because every once in a while I get someone who says, uh, I'm not committed at which time the no BS quits. Yeah. So, yeah, you've got a want, as in every relationship you have to want the relationship

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:07:01):

And you generally deal if I remember correctly with teams and, uh, mainly like in, in manufacturing and distribution and usually, uh, uh, I guess usually the manager may be the CEO. Somebody hires you at the top to help work with the team, uh, moving down that ladder.

Paul (01:07:20):

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And not that I won't work with other people, but I find that I'm most effective in distribution and manufacturing, just because there's little, there's less BS. There's really none but less. And second it's a individual or team coaching. I really enjoyed team coaching. It's one of those dynamics that, uh, that matters. Uh, but it's all about improvement, so, yep.

Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position (01:07:44):

Well, y'all reach out to Paul and I know he can help you out Paul again. Thank you so very much. That's going to do it for another episode of feeding fatty. I'm Roy - Feeding Fatty - Selfcare is a Must In Order To Excel In a Leadership Position I'm, Terry - Feeding Fatty Paul. You can find us, of course, at www.feedingfatty.com. We're also on all the major social media platforms. A copy of this video of this interview will go up on YouTube when it is published as well. We're on all the major podcast platforms, a tune Stitcher, Google Spotify for not a one that you use, please reach out. We'd love to get it, get it added for you to make it easy. So until next time, take care of yourself and take care of each other.

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