Functional Medicine

Functional Medicine with Dr. Carol Shwery

Dr. Carol Shwery (DrCarolShwery.com) has been a dedicated healthcare practitioner for more than 40 years. She is deeply committed to helping people who struggle with feeling sick, tired, and in pain, find the root causes of their health challenges. She helps them reset their body and health so they can wake up feeling vibrant, full of energy, and ready for each day, no matter their age.

Through targeted lab testing, Dr. Shwery can assess how each system is working and design an individualized program to rebalance your body. Creating an individualized diet plan, a scientifically based supplement program, stress reduction, and exercise, a person’s health can improve dramatically – not only physically, but emotionally.

With an ongoing wellness plan, many health problems can be avoided, such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, arthritis, female, adrenal, thyroid, and insulin hormone imbalances. Her clients are finding a vitality that has given them a new lease on life!

Her personal goal is to transform our broken health care system as well as our broken health and empower people to achieve optimal health so they experience the joy and freedom of a life without limits.

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Roy - Feeding Fatty (00:03):

Hello, and welcome to another episode of feeding fatty. I'm Roy I'm, Terry Terry, I'm going to let you introduce our guests today.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (00:12):

So we are so excited to have Dr. Carol Shwery. She is a dedicated healthcare professional professional, and has been doing that for 40 years. She's deeply committed to helping people who struggle with feeling sick, tired, and in pain. Find the root causes of their health challenges and to find their root causes of their health challenges. She helps them reset their body and health so they can wake up feeling vibrant, full of energy and ready for each day. No matter what age through lab target or targeted lab testing, Dr. Sherry can access, assess how each system is working and design an individualized program to rebalance your body, creating an individualized diet plan, a scientifically based supplement program, stress reduction and exercise. A person's health can improve dramatically, not only physically, but emotionally with ongoing wellness plan with an ongoing wellness plan. Many health problems can be avoided such as diabetes, cardiovascular disease, arthritis, female adrenal, thyroid, and insulin hormone imbalances. Her clients are finding a vitality. There's given them a new lease on life. Her personal goal is to transform our broken healthcare system, as well as our broken health and empower people to achieve optimal health so they can experience the joy and freedom of a life without limits. Dr. Carol, thank you so much for joining us. We're just thrilled to have you here. Thank you so much

Roy - Feeding Fatty (01:51):

Nicotine time too. I am was not feeling too hot this morning when I got up. So yeah, it is very timely subject. Yeah.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (02:07):

So tell us, so tell us more about your history, how you got started, what you started in the healthcare profession 40 years ago.

Dr. Carol (02:18):

Yeah, so I wasn't spring chicken back then.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (02:21):

You still are,

Dr. Carol (02:24):

Well, the numbers say differently and you look great. Well, I, um, I got interested in health at a very early age and, um, I was directed by some of my mentors to go to Google to actually get a degree. And so I did that and I, I expanded my, I went to chiropractic school back then. And since then, I've, um, in the last 40 years I've gotten many different degrees, but, uh, at that time, uh, in, and for the first 20 years of my practice, I was just, uh, you know, don't go and gangbusters, everything was fantastic. And then about, um, about when I was 49 years old, um, my health started to all of a sudden deteriorate before I was, you know, everything was great. You know, I could do anything and everything. And did, um, I tended to pride myself on being a mom, great multitasker and stress was my friend.

Dr. Carol (03:27):

It really motivated. Um, but then, uh, at that 49th year, everything started to dismantle and I spent about five years trying to figure out what was wrong with me as my health just started to go down, down, down, down, down. And I will, I went from doctor to doctor, whether it be conventional or alternative, nothing was making sense. And, um, people were telling me things that I knew were not true. They were diagnosing me. And I said, you're not hearing. And so ultimately, um, it's a long, long five-year long story. I found out I had a brain tumor. Wow, gosh. And I'm a big, bad one. And, um, I ended up and it was killing me and I was slowly deteriorating in many different directions. So I ended up in a 14 hour surgery, um, came out and, um, was in a coma and then came out paramedics.

Dr. Carol (04:28):

Um, like why, um, why I tell this story? It's a big story, but we all have our stories. We all have stories. And ultimately I call myself a warrior because I said, this, I'm not, I'm not Lee, I'm this, I'm not letting this stop. And, um, I spent a long time, well, actually a short time and written in real terms for months clawing my way back to being able to go back to practice. I was in a wheelchair, but I learned everything over again. I still have partial paralysis in one leg, but it's, you know, I'm here and I'm back to being the ever anybody. And the reason why it's probably this is because we a, we do have our stories, but also I now have a sense of understanding and compassion for people and what their needs are. Whereas before I could give information, but I didn't have the personal experience.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (05:27):

So you having that, um, that, uh, brain tumor and, and having to go through all of the therapy and that you're just clawing your way back and being paralyzed and all of that, just, you think that made you a better practitioner?

Dr. Carol (05:45):

It made me a better physician. Yeah, totally. Because now a I can listen to people in a brand new way. Right. And then I can be empathetic and I can empower people in a new way that I simply could not prior to this moment. So I'm grateful that I had that experience. What I wish it on anybody else? No, but it happened. Right. And so I do feel I'm a better doctor because yeah, yeah,

Speaker 4 (06:14):

Yeah. Sometimes we have to go through that to, to actually, uh, you know, it can be transformative. Once we come out on the other side of a traumatic experience, like

Dr. Carol (06:24):

That's right. And it made me, you know, it empowered me to be, have more of a belief. What I needed to do to get back to the place I'm at now is alternative medicine. Conventional medicine took the majority of that tumor out, but alternative or functional medicine got me to where I am. So it was the blend lovely blend.

Speaker 4 (06:46):

That was one. Oh, I'm sorry. That was one question I was going to ask you was the, uh, you know, what is the difference between the functional and the traditional?

Dr. Carol (06:54):

Yes. Conventional medicine, um, is an expert in diagnosis, surgery, medication. We need these things. If we're in a crisis situation, there's nothing like conventional medicine. That's going to help us. We need that, but these things can behave like band-aids. And so it doesn't get down. It's like going from the top down, conventional medicine is looking at the top of symptoms. And then it's saying, this is how we're going to treat those symptoms. Functional medicine is going underneath. We're trying to look at the root causes of why people get sick. So it's completely different approach, more holistic and taking in to account all aspects of a person that you may actually think is unrelated. So we're, it's really looking from top down or bottom up. And that's really the essential difference than we know that our health in this country particularly is going down in our healthcare system and the model for it is broken. Um, and we're, we're not doing well from a health point of view in this culture. So this is trying to take the wisdom natural of natural medicine from the ages mixed with science of nutrition and medicine and blend them to come and figure out root causes, then give personalized treatments to each individual. Cause it's not what anybody gets. One, one picture, right? She has to be customized. That's right.

Speaker 4 (08:32):

So a couple of questions don't want to get too far out ahead of you, but, uh, two things that just came to mind while you were talking were number one. Do you feel that traditional medicine or Conventional, do you feel like there is a difference between prescribing medications does traditional, uh, uh, does, Oh, now I'm confused. Does that, does the, uh,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (09:01):

Conventional medicine go, are there, are they more apt to prescribe the medication first and foremost? Or

Dr. Carol (09:11):

I guess it just depends what versus what, as opposed to trying

Speaker 4 (09:16):

The traditional versus the conventional, you know, the, I guess the mainstream, like we have today, my opinion only, but it seems like if you go in and say, Hey, I've got this, it's like, yeah, we got some pills that we need you to take. That's going to fix that. And so I, the,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (09:32):

The functional medicine medicine is more looking at the whole,

Dr. Carol (09:36):

Well, let's say, why do you have that thing? Right. That's the difference here? Let me give you something for the pain without understanding. Why did that pain occur in the first place? Right. That's the essential difference between the two things. Okay. Here, I'll give you something, but I don't really know. What's why it's happening. This is going to get rid of the symptoms, right. Maybe right.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (10:01):

If somebody were wanting a functional, wanting somebody to look at, you know, at a functional medical professional, how would they go about searching for that?

Dr. Carol (10:16):

Uh, well, I know you guys are in Texas. I know, I know there are functional medicine doctors in Texas. I mean, I totally know that you can find, you know, somebody like me, there are you look, you clump in functional medicine. Yeah. And then people and people will show up. You can find me, I treat, I read virtual all over the country. Everybody's virtual. Now you have, yes, you have in actually it's been a service been, um, because people can get what they need and not necessarily be locked into their immediate environment. Right. Community and wants something outside.

Speaker 4 (11:01):

Well, not only that, but you know, like I had a falling out with my longtime doctor because it was like, you know, you go there and wait an hour in the waiting room. Then you go back to the exam room and wait another 30 or 40 minutes. And you know, nobody, you know, I know that scheduling tight is how they make money. But on the other hand, it's like, you know, with this virtual medicine, I think that it probably puts the patient a lot more ease being to be staying at home in their own environment, but not going to be in that waiting game. And then also not mixing with the people in the waiting rooms, especially with COVID. But even before that, I mean, you never know what people have sitting next to you.

Dr. Carol (11:43):

That's true. Well, there's also sort of a standard of care in medicine, which is a, uh, you know, you have a window of time and it's a short window of time. You have to be rapid. You have to, so they can put a lot more, you know, they put a lot more people in where is in functional medicine because we're really looking at a larger complexity of situation. We're going to take a longer time. I didn't turn into a cattle call. That's right. Different.

Speaker 4 (12:08):

So you mentioned diet, uh, earlier, that was the second question I had is so, uh, you know, from your experience, have you found that diet is a big component of our illnesses or when things go wrong, can it be traced back to that?

Dr. Carol (12:26):

Well, I'm going to, I want to talk a little bit about something called what I call the essential eight. We have what I call foundation of health and they're essentially eight different foundations. And if they're like pillars, okay. So if you have any of those pillars is been knocked out of balance, the building on top, which is your organs are not going to be able to function correctly. So there's eight of them. And I'll just say, um, it's sort of like, these are the basics. Okay. And if you don't take care of the basics, whether it's, whether you're worried about COVID or you have a mental health issue, or you have a chronic health condition or an acute one, if you don't deal with these essential aid, your something's going to be out of whack. Let me just tell you what I believe they are. Okay. So nutrition, hydration, that's one, that's an essential core piece of health sleep. If we don't get the proper sleep, we're not going to function like

Speaker 4 (13:31):

We've been dealing with that lately.

Dr. Carol (13:34):

This is a huge people are having trouble sleeping right now because they're, so one of the other things, stress stresses them, stress management, another pillar, another foundation, um, physical activity. How many people have been sitting in front of their computer for eight or 10 hours a day and not getting up to move, right? We are, we are locked. My hips are locked. I mean, I've never set them up to my believable. Um, the environment, whether it's the water, the air, we are surrounded by 85,000 potential chemicals every week. You 5,000 that's that's toxicity in the environment. And then another problem is social connection. There's no much distress because we are at this time. So isolated and social connection at any time is one of these essentials. And then, um, fun, pleasure, joy getting out in nature. If people are unhappy, that is one of the pillars. And then the nervous system, if our nervous system isn't functioning, right? Any one of these, or if you have more than one or just one, they can knock your system out. So nutrition key, right? That'd be eight. I hope that's a long winded way of answering.

Speaker 4 (14:53):

It's good. I was taking notes here because, uh, you know, that's kinda, uh, I don't think I've given it quite that much thought, but you know, kind of what we always talk about between us as our pillars, I guess, are, you know, the sleep diet, exercise and the hydration, because I feel like I've begun to feel like, uh, you know, sleep is, uh, kind of, uh, what sends me off on the wrong paths. And, you know, I've been working a lot the last few days and getting little sleep and, you know, then all of a sudden I feel like I have to eat more, um, eat, you know, like a vacuum, I'll be eating anything. I could get my hands on to try to get me some energy to, you know, boost me up for a couple minutes and then diet Cokes, no water. You know, it just seemed like it is a downhill from,

Dr. Carol (15:43):

Sorry. No, no, you're fine. You're fine. So the truth is you're tired and you're trying to use nutrition or the lack thereof to boost energy in the two really have nothing to do with each other. But that is a really common situation. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:58):

Oh, and I forgot exercise was the other, which that has gone, you know, that goes by the wayside too. When you get busy, no exercise, no sleep eating by, you know, drink, not drinking water.

Dr. Carol (16:11):

Do you have a cell phone? Yes. You got your little cell phone. Yeah, I have every, every hour I have my cell phone. I like, I'm a dog person, so I have my cell phone bark every hour. And instead of get up off your tush and do something a few minutes. Right. Okay. Okay. So we need, we need some ways. Yeah. The other thing is, um, you know, I, I say this a lot, especially during this time of lockdown, we are not social distancing from the refrigerator. No. Okay.

Speaker 4 (16:46):

No, we've become, we've become very close. I should probably have a six foot from it. Got a tunnel.

Dr. Carol (16:57):

Yeah. It's definitely a thing. Yes.

Speaker 4 (17:03):

It's so important because you know, I'm just looking at these that, you know, you've talked about and it seems like that, you know, going through this pandemic, especially all of these eight are, are out of whack in some way for just about everybody, you know? Cause I know, you know, and we've been lucky. Uh, I'll say I'll speak for me. I think Terry too, but we've been lucky we have thrived through this and you know, I kind of tell some people that I feel like I may have a little survivor's guilt because you know, being at home, it's been, I've been a lot more focused, been able to get a lot more done, but unfortunately it kind of leads into that. Staying in the chair longer, not getting up, not getting out and getting the exercise. You know, you just, it, I don't know. You just cannot

Terry - Feeding Fatty (17:51):

Leave in, not leaving your seat there. Cause you're working, we work and all the time feeling like you need to work when you, and so many things going through your head.

Dr. Carol (18:00):

I know my desk here is just covered. You know how that is, but the good news is the two of you work together. And so you can push each other to go, okay, we need three minutes. Let's get up. Let's go outside. Let's do something. Right. Um, that's the good news if you utilize it, right?

Speaker 4 (18:22):

Yeah, no, she tries to keep me on track. I have to give her that much. He works very hard to make sure, to make me stop for dinner and you know, do all the right things. But you know, I guess what another point is where we are, we are some of the lucky ones because we have each other and we have things to do around here where we can get outside or I can get outside and get my exercise and work. But you know, there's so many people that can't get out and the, the social isolation I'm sure. Especially for like, you know, our parents that, um, seniors. Yeah. I just know when we go over there, we, we went by to drop something off on a Sunday and you know, ended up staying for three hours just because, you know, they were just, uh,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (19:09):

Starved for any kind of human interaction whatsoever.

Dr. Carol (19:13):

Well, well the stats on seniors actually, um, there's the loneliness of creating and social isolation is creating a more chronic disease manifesting.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (19:26):

Wow. And depression. I bet

Dr. Carol (19:27):

It could be found that it's not, it's not a pretty picture. No.

Speaker 4 (19:31):

Yeah. And it's a vicious cycle because even if they have a medical condition, then they get scared to go to the doctor or go to the hospital and then it just kind of snowballs from there. So yeah.

Dr. Carol (19:45):

Yeah. That's right. So it's, it's just important that we do as much as we can for ourselves and the people who love you within the limits that we now have. Right, right, right. Um, to, to help, to help. Um, so I did want to talk and tell me if this is okay, because you kind of hit on something and what you said. Okay. Um, we're, you know, we're probably all super pandemic fatigue. Like it's hard to even say it. It's like, Oh my God. So that's always thought about for, you know, eight months. Right, right, right. But the thing is that what you said? Um, there are non-infectious pandemics that are going on all the time. They're not infectious, but they're not infectious. And I wanted to talk about three of them. Cause what you said. I can't remember exactly, but it's triggered me wanting to speak a bit. Yeah. There are three non-infectious pandemics and I wanted to talk about, and it relates to how this essential aid, if they're off kilter, then how your body functions isn't going to work. So I wanted to talk about the first one, which is, have you ever heard of metabolic syndrome? Yes, but I don't remember. Okay.

Dr. Carol (21:07):

Um, you've heard, we all know that these, uh, when they talk about co-morbidities as being a problems, well, three of the comorbidities, hypertension, obesity, and diabetes all make up, uh, can, uh, be manifestation of something called metabolic syndrome, which is your blood sugar. Uh, you have high blood pressure, high blood sugar, excess body fat around the waist, high cholesterol. These are all things I see your face. These are all things that,

Speaker 5 (21:38):

Um, is he over there rolling his eyes? I just hit the triple crown on that one there. I think I've got all of them. Here's the problem.

Dr. Carol (21:48):

I mean, this is just, we're just hitting on a few things very briefly. We can spend hours looking into this, but if you have this problem, it lowers, it causes inflammation in your body. We've all heard that cytokine storm. This is inflammation. Okay. And then it lowers our immune function. Okay. So if we are hitting, uh, sugars and carbs, um, that is going to alter our ability to handle blood sugar correctly, then metabolic syndrome can take place. Now your immune system starts coming down. It doesn't work. Yeah. Okay. So I wanted people to understand in terms of understanding root causes, it's not just me. All I have to do is put a mask on in social distance. No. How is the body function so that we can try and maximize our immunity by not doing things that are going to be problematic. Right. So I wanted people to talk about that. And one of the things I do with patients is ask them to test their blood sugar throughout the day, many times a day. So we find out what is your blood sugar? And this is something that you can do at home, um, to give us this information. Um, once something else I, uh, stop me at any time.

Speaker 5 (23:11):

Yeah, no, you're good. You're good. This is all, you're a dream

Dr. Carol (23:15):

Big 90% of all our illnesses are due to lifestyle and 90% of illnesses can be fixed with lifestyle. Okay? So this, these beans are really relevant. I don't care what we're talking about. Right. It could be immunity or anything else, but here's this other thing. And I wanted people to really get this we're sitting around and we are suppressed to the men. Most of us, uh, well, there's these glands called the adrenal glands. Have you guys heard of them? They sit right on top of the kidneys and they are our first line of defense against stress. Now, if they are struggling, they might be pumping up too many of these hormones that they produce. Or maybe not enough if we're really, really stressed, the body goes, I can't take this anymore. And they stopped supporting these hormones. Guess what happens to your immune system? It goes down.

Dr. Carol (24:10):

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's important that we can find out are our adrenal glands suffering. Um, and so we talked about the essential aid. If our stress management is not working well, the adrenals may suffer. So in functional medicine, we talk about, um, tests don't guess. Okay. So we do, um, for people who, I think this is an important piece and it may not be for everyone. I would have them do a salivary test to find out what, what is going on with your was so that we could find out a personalized approach to whether they need to have that handle in order to boost their immune.

Speaker 4 (24:57):

Okay. Yeah. And you know, I can attest to that back in, uh, LA, it hasn't happened lately, but this was back in my younger days when I had a pretty high stress corporate job is that, um, exp you know, before I would go on vacation the last, the week before vacation would be so stressed, trying to make sure everything was handled and in line. And my people knew what to do that week and that I would literally get off on Friday night, go home and wake up sick Saturday. Yeah. I would be, I'd be sick for three days because you know, it was like once that's, once the stress had, once the stress had relieved, once I got home and it left my body, it's like my immune system must have been so weak that, you know, I just got, I got sick. And so my vacations were usually marred by two or three days of, you know, flu like symptoms. Not, not really bad, but just being fever and, uh, all of that.

Dr. Carol (25:56):

I am right there with you. Yeah. And you're going away Terry for two weeks. I am, let's see, Oh my gosh, I've been running around.

Speaker 4 (26:05):

I think people are, people have got a pool going on. Who's going to survive me or the dogs when she comes back.

Dr. Carol (26:13):

I mean, for two weeks, I'll be gone two weeks and there you're going to be sorely missed. I think I wanted to talk about one other thing because people, I really want people to see the connection. And that is, um, where do you think 70 to 80% of your immune system lives in your body,

Speaker 4 (26:39):

On your skin or underneath? Just underneath your skin? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:44):

Yeah. Okay. I'm done drop the mic.

Dr. Carol (26:50):

If you're, you've heard the term microbiome, have you heard that your gut, the floor in your gut, the good, the bad and the ugly, if that is imbalanced, is there is a problem with, and these are terms may or may not know if there's a problem with the permeability and we've got meaning there's holes and bad guys are bidding in and affecting the body. If that, if your gut is not running smoothly and your microbiome is off and given it 70 to 80% of all our immune system is living down there, your guts, not good. Guess what happens? Your immune system is thinking. So these are actual pandemics. These things are happening everywhere with everybody, but nobody's thinking about all that interaction, that infectious pandemic and these noninfectious pandemics, this is a recipe for disaster. And so we want to find out well, is that relate to you have that issue? Um, so we might, if, if I think, you know, somebody has that issue, I might want to test that, test your guts in, in what we call functional testing.

Speaker 4 (28:01):

So what is, uh, what is a test that you would run to test somebody's gut?

Dr. Carol (28:08):

If I felt it was important for that person? Uh, well, I call them poop tests, but they are,

Speaker 5 (28:17):

Oh, now we're always going to start turning red. And we talk about anything,

Dr. Carol (28:23):

You know, fecal tests, but, and they're, they're done over a couple of days. You get a sample from each day and it tells us many things. It tells us, uh, what you are able to digest, what you're not able to digest. Do you have creatures down there that are, um, parasitic or fungal or bacteria that are not supposed to be there? Um, it gives us a whole huge array. Are you, if you have inflammation in your gut that we, that you couldn't see, you would not be able to see if you went for a colonoscopy, this is the functioning of the gut. So it tells us lots of information, um, of which then we can design something based on that information.

Speaker 4 (29:08):

I guess you could say, I stepped into that one.

Speaker 5 (29:12):

[inaudible] yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:14):

Those are good things to understand, because it is, um, now that you, when you said that I did, I do realize now that I've heard that before, that that's where a lot of our immunity lives is in our gut health.

Dr. Carol (29:29):

Right. So I just liked people to step back and go. The first line is the social responsibility of what we are being told what to do, but then we want to go deeper. Right. So that we actually have impact. We are so that I'm, I'm fortified. So as to be

Roy - Feeding Fatty (29:54):

Out. Okay. Yeah. We just kind of, you kind of bleeped out on us that last word there, I think, yeah.

Dr. Carol (30:02):

The internet. Do you, can you hear me? Cause my internet, just,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (30:05):

You blanked out after, um, you said at the, at the people being empowered,

Dr. Carol (30:12):

Empowered to take responsibilities and really do something for their kids. Um, and I don't know. I mean, I can give little, uh, little things for people to do right now today. You know, what can you do right now?

Roy - Feeding Fatty (30:28):

Okay. That'd be good. Yes. Yeah. I'm taking notes.

Dr. Carol (30:31):

All right. Cool. Okay. So, um, I wanted to say, obviously you said something about drinking water. You want to drink, if you can, for an average adult drink, I'm sorry. I see your face. There is

Roy - Feeding Fatty (30:44):

Water.

Dr. Carol (30:46):

Okay. You need to try and drink, um, about around 64 ounces a day. And so, um, you'll see, you know, I've got my cup here. You got to figure out how to do that. Now coffee does not count. Okay.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (31:01):

Wait, say that again, please. Liquids

Dr. Carol (31:04):

Are not the same as water. Okay. So unfortunately, so you can also, everybody agrees that fruits and vegetables are really important, right? Everybody is in agreement of that. There's lots of things in alternative medicine that people don't agree with them when it comes to diet. But we all agree that having fruits and vegetables and having a large plant-based diet is super important. So what that means, and even the CDC believes it's if we could have like nine to 11 servings of fruits and vegetables a day. So I often talk about drinking your fruits and vegetables, making a drink, uh, should be a smoothie, is so that you, you can put big handfuls of stuff in there and you don't have to stress. If you had nine to 11 servings, that's about to dinner plate full of vegetables or two pounds. But if you drink your vegetables or fruits, then you minimize that, Oh my God, are you kidding me?

Dr. Carol (32:10):

Um, sort of feeling right. So that's something you can do because that will give you lots of important vitamins and minerals. Anti-oxidants all these things that are going to fortify your system. Okay. Um, and then for, um, uh, for, uh, de-stressing okay. You could do two simple things. Well, first of all, do you meditate? Do you find moments of peace? Do you pray? How do you, how do you get into that calmer state of being that's going to really help your adrenals? Okay. Um, okay. So that's one thing you can take a couple of vitamins that really help your adrenal glands, a B five B6 and vitamin C. Okay. There are formulas that I have that are, you can get that are specific for adrenal de-stressing and they generally always have B five, B, six, and C. Okay. Okay. And then a simple protocol for your guts is, do you guys have, I don't know, where are you in Texas? Did you, after you told me, okay, I'm assuming there is called booths there. Yes,

Speaker 5 (33:31):

We do have that.

Dr. Carol (33:34):

Yeah. Um, but you know, do you know what kimchi is?

Speaker 5 (33:38):

Yes. And you know, I don't think I've ever tried it, but I've been very curious for a long time

Dr. Carol (33:43):

Kimchi and sauerkraut, organic, raw, both of them. Um, they taste great. You have to kind of, you have to, you know, you might have to acquire a taste for it, but I love them. They have natural probiotics in them. Okay. So you can fortify with the proper bacteria by eating these foods or taking a multi-screen probiotic. And you go to the health, food store is your weight to say, Oh, I'm going to support is, you know, support my guns,

Speaker 5 (34:16):

But you said raw sauerkraut and,

Dr. Carol (34:19):

Um, rock, rock, rock him. [inaudible].

Speaker 4 (34:23):

So let me ask you about that because I think that's where, um, you know, somebody like me, that's tried to, you know, I've kind of played at being healthy for a long time, but there's so much information and probiotics and not trying to put you on the spot, but just trying to get your opinion on this is that, um, at one point, you know, I was taking a probiotic and, um, I don't know, 25 million deals or whatever, you know, it was pretty good strength,

Dr. Carol (34:55):

5 million billion,

Speaker 4 (34:57):

Maybe billion maybe. Yeah. But then I started reading some material, not, I didn't seek it out. It's just stuff that came across to me that it said that there's this natural occurrence in our stomach. And so when we take a probiotic every day, we were actually counteracting it. And I guess this guy or person was saying that maybe you need to do it once a week or once a month, every once. Every two weeks. So what, what is the thought on that?

Dr. Carol (35:28):

Well, I've never personally seen that, but I want to comment on it anyway. Um,

Speaker 5 (35:37):

You have to find

Dr. Carol (35:38):

Out whether you need the probiotics or not. Okay. That I just want to say, I do feel that taking a multi-screen probiotic because the research indicates there's so many positive value. There's so much positivity to it. Okay. Um, I don't know what he was. He or she was thinking about some mechanism that this is going to hurt. I don't, honestly, I didn't have to hear the whole thing. Just trying to really understand, but probiotics, like anything are not all made equal and they need part of the, part of the thing about probiotics is not all probiotics can make it through the, through the gallbladder, the secretions. So you have, you have to know about what you're getting, because if you, you know, the most expensive supplement is the one that doesn't work. Right. Okay. So not everything is made equal, but again, um, I do think that taking probiotics is, uh, in, uh, in, um, sort of a preventative way can be valuable.

Speaker 4 (36:43):

Okay. Okay. No, thanks for answering that. Cause I, you know, the thing is I heard it, I don't know their credentials. Don't really, and it's been a year, a few years ago, but I think like you said, the key is probably, you know, doing the test to see if it's even necessary or if it's what's right.

Dr. Carol (37:00):

Well, the other that brings up this whole thing, I read it, I read this, I read that you go to Dr. Google. Yeah. Okay. And you know, Dr. Google is going to make him crazy because there's so much conflicting information. So in my opinion, um, I love to research, you know, and lots of people do. Um, but you need some, some way to decipher whether this is information that actually is valid. Right. Um, and, um, I think it's helpful to have somebody in your corner who has, uh, studied enough, who has enough, uh, years under their belt to go yay, Nate, or let's think about this Navy, you know, so you just don't go, I'm going to buy every, I have a pitch that she has. She came in with bags and bands of supplements, just everything she reads on Dr. Google, she, the slides, that's it? This is it.

Speaker 4 (38:02):

Yeah. Well, you know, and I, this is a long time ago. I had, you know, an unhealthy diet. I knew I did, and I wasn't eating fruits or vegetables. Mostly. It was, you know, restaurant food at every meal. So, uh, you know, I, I am that person. I started, you know, taking one and then I read something, it took more, you know, and it morphed into a whole bag full. And of course I took it to my doctor and let him look over him. And there was, there's one he threw out and wine. He added, I think K three was one that he wanted me to take. But then, you know, one thing we did, um, you know, when we started this show was we got the Krono meter. You know, we started monitoring our Mac, our micronutrients as well. And when, when we eat good, like we're supposed to, we were getting most of everything, you know, that we needed. I know there's some like the, the ones that you were talking about, the be five and six and see that you may need a boost to, uh, you know, help you with what you were talking about. But, um, I basically got off of most everything that I was taking and kind of pared it down to a few that I knew we were struggling with.

Dr. Carol (39:17):

That's a good, that's good. Um, because really what you're wanting to say at this point for our health, the best defense is a good offense, right? So you want to take, you want to, you know, strengthen your body as much as you can, given what your particular personal needs are. So you, you know, you want to, you want to put yourself in, uh, in that, uh, position of taking responsibility with the proper information. Right. Which I think is really important. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:51):

Yeah. Yeah. And so, so what can people do today if they're feeling overwhelmed, trying to figure all this stuff out all the time?

Dr. Carol (39:59):

Well, first of all, um, I wanted, I put, I have my notes somewhere. So the first, um, first thing is I would stop. I would consider like minimizing your doctor, Dr. Google. But, um, you have to figure out, you know, when you're feeling overwhelmed, you know, what's your personal, why, what do you, why do you want to be healthy? Do you want to be healthy to play with your kids, your grandkids, do you want to go to Hawaii and hike in the volcano? Um, you know, what is it that you're, what is your goals? You figure that out. Okay. So you can go as, is, is this important to me? What do I want to do? And then you try it. We were part of, in a situation where we want to, we really want to survive and thrive. So we're calling that thrival, we want to do that.

Dr. Carol (40:55):

So, um, we come up with, we find a mentor, if that's your choice, not everybody likes that who can support and figure out what's going on with you and support it. Um, also my website, I have a book, an ebook that I've written called this the essential aid, and it gives you a guide to those essential foundations. And you can go to my website, it's free. You can just click it. That's something you can do right now to get, and I can give you my website. Um, I can spell it out for you. Okay. Um, it's Dr. Dr. Carol C R O L S H w E R y.com. So Dr. Carol square.com, no period or anything you can go and you can go to, uh, go there and you can get my ebook. Okay. Okay. That's certainly one thing you can do. And did he decide that, um, you really want to investigate this further?

Dr. Carol (41:53):

You know, you want to go, she, I really want to be healthy. Um, I am offering your, your listeners today, a gift, and that is if you would like to talk to me and have me hear what's going on with you, um, what, what your health concerns are. If you have health concerns, what is driving you to say, I'm going to spend 15 minutes, a complimentary discovery consultation with me, 15 minutes on the phone, uh, where we talk about your health challenges, or we talk about the kind of, uh, programs that I provide and see if, what I have to offer you in terms of information, education, and a plan might be of service to you. I'm happy to do that for your listeners.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (42:45):

Very nice. Yes. Yeah. I may be the first one. I was going to say we have to Duke it out.

Dr. Carol (42:54):

Uh, but it's, it's nice to have for me, I'm the kind of person that wants to go to somebody who has years of experience that can go, Oh, I hear you. Or I see, like I've been watching cause you sort of your wear it on your face. That's a bad

Speaker 4 (43:12):

Thing about doing video now,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (43:17):

Whose idea was it to do video?

Speaker 4 (43:20):

You know, for so much of my life, it was, you know, it's meat, potatoes, and the only two vegetables that I like are, you know, potatoes and corn, probably the two worst ones,

Dr. Carol (43:31):

By the way, just why, I guess what those turn into in your body, those two, those two things, what have they turned into

Speaker 4 (43:40):

Carbs sugars.

Dr. Carol (43:42):

Totally. That's it? Yeah. That's all I do. So is that going to affect your blood sugar potentially? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:52):

And the other thing is the quickness and, you know, that's one thing that we, we were on a good path. We were cooking in the kitchen and doing everything right. And then, you know, uh, Terry's mother had had a spell. And so we kind of, she had been out, you know, kind of in and out for two or three weeks, kinda got off track, but you know, it, it became easy, the easy path. And I think that's, uh,

Roy - Feeding Fatty (44:19):

Just grabbing something already, you know, some pre-packaged something just that you can eat and you don't have to prepare and then just go back to your work and, you know, yeah. I mean, I'm not just saying you no, but that's,

Speaker 4 (44:32):

That's the way it is. It's hurry up and eat so we can sit back down and get back to work. And I guess it's a bigger picture is take the break, eat the good meal, take, go for a walk, get away and get out of the chair.

Dr. Carol (44:44):

I say, it's, um, these basics they're fundamental. Are they sexy? Meaning, uh, you know, is it like, Hey, this, this has been real easy, really? You know, it's going to be, well, these are the day-to-day ins and outs that are not so exciting. Right. But they will keep us moving and alive better and longer if we do them, but it can be like the drudgery. So we have to figure out how to make that better.

Speaker 4 (45:14):

It's funny. That's the other thing I think it's funny you mentioned is that, um, I guess at some point I got wrapped up in that food is fun. And so, you know, it'd be like, when she'll tell me, Oh, I got some broccoli. I'd be like, Oh,

Speaker 5 (45:32):

Uh, shoulders, did you get me a snack? I sure did. Rugeley

Speaker 4 (45:40):

Yeah. So you know it, and it, we talk about it and I can say the words, it's harder to put into practice that we need to eat to live. We don't need to live to eat. And it, you know, we, while we can make it a social event, as far as us setting down, talking about our day, talking about tomorrow, you know, that shouldn't be where we gain our, shouldn't be what we look forward to for our fun, I guess.

Dr. Carol (46:05):

Well, I'm going to have a slight disagreement with you because food can and should be fun. I think that that is one of the basic enjoyments in life. It's that our taste buds have been programmed to think only certain things taste fun. Yes. But if we can retrain them. Okay. So I D I think food is a foundational piece of, you know, of enjoyment and we should, you know, and so I think we can alter that so that you can, anybody can change and make it fun. Even if it's not fun with, I don't know what you loved most, except I do know you love potato. Right. Um, but it can't be fun.

Speaker 4 (47:00):

Yeah. I'm going to have to really give that some more.

Speaker 5 (47:03):

I'll see what I'm working with here. This is hard. This is really hard.

Dr. Carol (47:09):

Uh, I'm gonna keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (47:11):

No. And I give her a lot of credit. I mean, she jazzes things up and re you know, trying stuff out, which it it's, it's more delightful. It's just, it's not my thing. You know, I'd read that, uh, the vegetable part I'm, I'm like, wait a minute,

Dr. Carol (47:31):

You might be a great candidate for drinking your drink and your veggies.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (47:35):

Right. Yeah. And you went down a little.

Speaker 4 (47:39):

Yeah, I did that a little. I bought a, it was like a green mix, some kind of green powder that had all the vegetables wrapped up in it. And, you know, I had gotten pretty good about making some smoothies, uh, with that in it. So we, I may have to revisit that or look at making, uh, making some with fresh vegetables too. We haven't really tried juicing.

Dr. Carol (47:59):

Good. Did you guys have a, I don't know. Do you guys have, um, Costco in Texas? Okay. So Costco, at least where I am, uh, they have, uh, bags of organic grew, dark leafy greens. And the reason I say called Costco is there's so much cheaper than if you go to the store. So you can get a big old bag of dark leafy greens, organic at Costco for a few bucks. And you can, I mean, you can just dig your hand in there and really make it make a great trick. I did want to say too, what I like to do to make the drink, uh, more palatable is I have these things called medical foods. So if somebody let's say has an influence, if inflammation is one of their big problems, I have medical, uh, powder, which has vitamins, minerals, nutrients, and also supplements in it for inflammation. You mix that in with your drink, or if somebody's blood sugar, if that's their big issue, I have powders for that. So you can combine getting your nutrients and supplements in with your drink so that it becomes multipurpose. Right.

Roy - Feeding Fatty (49:12):

That'd be ideal right there. All right.

Dr. Carol (49:15):

Yeah. I mean, that's how I start my morning. Um, and I just feel like for, I mean, it's hard to get that stuff in and if you, if you're sitting there going Rockley

Roy - Feeding Fatty (49:27):

Squash is a really big one. You don't like squash. I think, I think it's the word squash, maybe. I don't know, but none of it, I mean, pretty much none there's spaghetti squash, you like that. All right.

Dr. Carol (49:41):

You don't like to Keenis you don't like Sakina maybe just don't fix them.

Speaker 4 (49:46):

No carrots, no squash, no com I like, you know, catch up, but I don't like tomatoes raw. I mean, it's really just meat potatoes and some corn

Roy - Feeding Fatty (49:57):

And bread and bread. Oh, well,

Speaker 4 (50:07):

Um, I guess we'll, uh, we'll call it, uh, you give me some things to work on, so we'll, let me get started. What we need to do is we need to make an appointment to, uh, you know, get you back on the show, continue this, because like you said, we could, we could talk about it for hours and hours. It's very interesting to me because I want to learn. I want to do better. I really do. I just have to find that, you know, I think I just have to find the path for me is just the no,

Dr. Carol (50:36):

That's right. And you know, one of the things, you know, like when somebody becomes a client, um, I ask them, you know, we have a very long consultation, so I can try and understand the root causes of what may be going on or not going on with somebody. Plus I have about 30 pages of questionnaires. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, because that way, well, yeah, because I don't care how long I talk. I'm never going to remember all the things I need. It's just not going to happen. So, so that way we really get down to the meat and potatoes [inaudible] so that's what I do. And I know if you guys, or any of your peeps on the show are interested in doing this, I'm going to give you my phone number, call my office and set up a time. Okay. So if you call them, I want you to say, you know, I was on your show. And so that they know, you know, what the connection is. My number is (831) 476-6906.

Speaker 4 (51:50):

Okay. And we'll be sure and put that in the show notes as well. But before we go, before we start wrapping up too much, let me ask you about, uh, is there a tool that you use in your, your daily life, a tool, habit, ritual, professional, personal, something that you do every day that you just couldn't do without?

Dr. Carol (52:11):

Yes. Okay. Um, I've been a meditator for 40 years, but I decided I needed some help in that area. So there's a group that just happens to be located in my County. And the group is called heart math. Have you heard of them? No. Art man. You can go to their website, heartmap.org, I believe.

Speaker 4 (52:36):

Is it M a T H like math,

Dr. Carol (52:39):

Math, hard math. Yeah. One word, one word. And, um, they have a device called inner balance. It's $129, or it might be for, I have an iPhone. It works with the iPhone for 129. Uh, and then I think for, uh, Android, it might be, or for Bluetooth, which I did not want. Um, it may be one 49, but it's a way for a person to learn how to use their breath and learn how to, um, go into their heart, uh, and find a level of gratefulness that causes, uh, what we call a heart, the heart rate, variability. It just is a term that talks about what's your heart is doing. And it represents a level of calm. There's a great deal of research on this. They've been, they've been at this for about 40 years, but it has brought great calm to me and my patients. Okay. And I feel like we're living in times where we need to find methods to have that calmness. Right. And I encourage people to go to that website. Cause it's, it's powerful.

Speaker 4 (53:59):

Speaking of breathing that that's one of the other big things that used to be on my list with the, uh, with the water and the sleep is I had it's like breathe, remember to breathe because I am the world's worst about holding my breath. And, you know, I had gone to one of these painting parties once, you know, and the lady was walking around, checking our workout. She's like, it's okay if you take a breath every now and then, cause I was just like so intense and it's just, but uh, you know, I've done a little bit of yoga before and it's just amazing what we can control with our breath if we just be mindful of that. So definitely something worth checking out for sure. Yeah.

Dr. Carol (54:40):

Yeah. I'm just trying to think of this. I wasn't old Yogi for many years and then I decided to become paralyzed instead stuff,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (54:50):

You know, I have never tried yoga. Isn't that terrible. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Carol (54:56):

You get addicted to it. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, one of the beauties of yoga is that you lose, you have to stay very present or are you going to fall down? Okay. You need to just be in your body. And yoga is not easy. No,

Terry - Feeding Fatty (55:16):

I mean, I've, I've done certain aspects of it, you know, but not ever really sat through a whole class, you know, and I need it.

Dr. Carol (55:24):

Well, I encourage you to, um, to do it. And I have a friend, uh, uh, one of my oldest friends from high school, she teaches yoga and she's teaching it online. She lives in New York. And now that I cannot think of her website, but I could certainly get that to you because she's teaching five days a week online and she's teaching for beginners.

Terry - Feeding Fatty (55:49):

Oh, that's what I need. Definitely. Yeah. Okay.

Dr. Carol (55:51):

So that's the beauty of it. Yeah. What it,

Speaker 4 (55:55):

A lot of people don't understand that. Um, I have, uh, a DVD of a lady. She has like an am and a PM routine. And she was good about the modifications because it's tough. I mean, if you try to start out doing what these instructors do, I mean, you'll give up are, I'd give up in a minute because it's number one, it's difficult with the flexibility. But number two, it takes a lot of body strength. I mean, they have to have a lot of body control.

Dr. Carol (56:24):

Well, there's two aspects to, um, yoga strength and stretch, right? Some people are quite strength oriented and other people are quite stretched or either I was the ladder. I was extremely flexible, but I actually, I utilized, I did not utilize my body correctly because I wasn't strong enough. So I did a lot of work that ended up hurting my joints because I was always using my joints rather than the muscular strength. Yeah. So you need somebody, one of the beauties of have going to a live class is that they watch you, even when you're virtual, they go, okay, Terry, I want you to do this. Yeah. And adjust accordingly. That's fine. Yep. Right. And men are more, clearly not as flexible for the most part. So you guys use your strength, but you don't have that stretch, which makes it equally difficult. Right.

Speaker 4 (57:21):

Right. Well, Dr. Carol, thank you so much for taking time out of your day to be with us. And, uh, we definitely will, uh, you know, set up another time. It's been enjoyable talking to you. I feel like we've gained so much information. I have learned so much. So, uh, if you don't mind again, I know you gave us the phone number, but tell us the website again, how people can,

Dr. Carol (57:42):

Should I just spell it? Yeah, I'll just spell it. www.drcarolshwery.com.

Speaker 4 (57:54):

Okay. And we will con uh, we will put that in the phone number in the show notes as well. So they will be there for everybody to look again. Thanks a lot. Uh, thank you so much.

Dr. Carol (58:07):

Thank you. This was really fun. All right.

Speaker 4 (58:11):

Well, we won't thank our listeners for being here. Of course, we're on all the major platforms, iTunes, Google play, Stitcher, Spotify. We've just been added to a few more of the Pandora, Amazon, and, uh, uh, another big one. I can't think about which one anyway, if we're not on one that you listened to, if you're not on, if we're, if we're not a one you'd listen to let us know we'll get added to it, but you can find us at www dot feeding, fatty.com. We're also on, uh, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, um, look us up. We'd be glad if you are professional. I'm sorry if you are a professional. Uh, okay. Yeah, if you are a professional, uh, we'd love to hear from you and hear your insight if you had, uh, if you're somebody that's had some success with, uh, getting healthy weight, loss, exercise, things like that. We'd love to hear from you as well until next time I am Roy on Terry.

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