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Either Side Eaters

39 episodes - English - Latest episode: 11 months ago - ★★★★★ - 21 ratings

"Two Dope Queens meets Home Cooking" — Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn compare notes on everything from John Cena's influence on the chili crisp craze to ketchup's surprising origin, from either side of the Atlantic.

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BONUS: Burnt Toast: I Draw the Line at Tongue

May 22, 2023 15:21 - 25 minutes - 17.8 MB

We invite chef, bakery owner, and cookbook author Allison Robicelli on our show to talk about all manner of strange food: What constitutes strange, the craziest things we’ve ever eaten, and how we feel about all of it. Things get weird. 

[BONUS] Foo-foo for Fufu With Ego Nwodim, Femi Kuti & Made Kuti

May 18, 2023 19:10 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MB

Self-proclaimed fufu-head Peter J. Kim sits down with comedian Ego Nwodim and Afrobeat pioneers Femi and Made Kuti to discuss ultimate jollof, Nigerian religi-pop, and the beloved ball of cooked starch that goes by many names. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 will look at Mexican, Jewish, Ethiopian, and French food and music; featuring guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, and Top Chef favorite Mory Sacko. It's an absolute audible feast—wee hope t...

The Evolution of Kitchen Appliances With Emmy Cho

May 04, 2023 15:52 - 33 minutes - 31.1 MB

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) discuss the transformation of the modern-day kitchen as we know it: from the Industrial Revolution's impact on the woman's "place" in the kitchen, to how domestic duties have evolved over time. They also discuss their shared  adoration for cooking infomercials with YouTuber Emmy Cho (@EmmyMade).  Referenced in this episode: The 100-year evolution of 9 kitchen appliances (HomeAdvisor) Rural cooking channels: Dianxi Xiaoge, Traditional Me Vin...

It Takes Two to Mango With Ravneet Gill

May 04, 2023 15:52 - 31 minutes - 29.2 MB

A few years ago, Katie got cancelled over a video on mango con chile. Why? Katie and Jen talk about the cultural appropriation in food; how to share excitement over "discovery" of new foods sensitively; and the importance of better, more diverse representation in media. They're later joined by pastry chef and The Pastry Chef's Guide author Ravneet Gill, who shares a wealth of mango inspo—including a hot tip for stellar mangoes year-round. P.S. Here's the NSFW mango TikTok mango hack Jen me...

The Best Chili Oil, John Cena–Approved With James Park

May 01, 2023 18:34 - 32 minutes - 29.9 MB

Co-hosts Katie (@QKatie) and Jen (@JenEatsLife) talk all things spice—and the not-so-nice. They trace peppers' trade routes and WWE professional wrestler John Cena's contribution to the chile crisp trend. Later in the episode, they dissect the anatomy of a perfect chili oil with Eater's social media manager James Park (@jamesyworld).  Special thanks to Allison for your question and Brian (@bqfunk) for our theme music! Have a Q? Send us a voice memo for a chance to get featured.

Nuts About Nut Butters With Chetna Makan

April 27, 2023 15:30 - 28 minutes - 26.3 MB

It's a nutty episode: co-hosts Katie and Jen talk about Americans' obsession with peanut butter (plus Italians' indifference to the stuff), Haiti's "spicy peanut butter," and the various peanut "seasonings" in south Asian cuisines.  Later on Food52 resident and Great British Bake-Off semi-finalist Chetna Makan joins to talk about her later-in-life adoption and love of nut butters. Special thanks to listener Deandra for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music.  

What Makes Food Go Viral? With Sophia Roe

April 27, 2023 15:27 - 29 minutes - 27.5 MB

Co-hosts Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn discuss the history and concept of "cucina povera" (making the most from simple, seasonal ingredients); Anna Maggio's Under the Olive Tree; and how we can see hints of this "poor cooking" approach in viral food trends today. Later on, chef and VICE Counter Space's Sophia Roe shares why equal access greater representation is important even—especially—in food.  Special thanks to our listener Leo for your question and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme m...

Aperitif AKA The Happiest Hour With Rachel Khoo

April 24, 2023 17:49 - 32 minutes - 29.5 MB

Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn talk about the happiest hour, aka aperitivo, apéritif, and fika. They also talk about airplane food, ice cubes in wine, and how Apéritif author Rebekah Peppler and Food Network TV personality Rachel Khoo craft Friday coziness affordably. Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!   

The History of Ketchup Is Bananas With Frankie Celenza

April 24, 2023 17:49 - 29 minutes - 27.3 MB

Who knew ketchup could be so controversial? Co-hosts Katie Quinn and Jen Phanomrat are joined by Tastemade's Frankie Celenza to discuss which foods are OK to smother in the stuff, catsup's surprising original formula (hint: no tomato), banana ketchup (!), homemade ketchup (!!), and why Heinz has remained king.  You can find Frankie's Tastemade show, Struggle Meals, on most streaming platforms, or follow his kitchen adventures on Instagram at @frankiecooks. Special thanks to listeners for y...

Breakfast! With Zoe Kelly

April 20, 2023 17:55 - 29 minutes - 26.7 MB

Quick: are you a pancakes or eggs benny person? Congee or oats?  Filipino-Thai New Yorker Jen Phanomrat grew up with silog for breakfast; Katie Quinn's Midwestern household usually had cereal. On this episode, they discuss breakfast traditions across the world, and discover many surprising universalities. They're joined by Chef and Founder of Little Chef & Me Zoe Kelly, who shares a dunktastic idea we'll be making our new morning tradition. Special thanks to our listeners Clifton and Janet...

Chicken or the Egg With Julie Nolke

April 20, 2023 17:50 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MB

New-Yorker-for-life Jen keeps her eggs in her fridge; Katie, who's now in Puglia, used to but now doesn't—as per her Egg Guy's (yup) recommendation. We look at which cultures chill vs. not, what makes an egg brown or white (and orange-yolked!), if a "proper" omelet even exists, and consult very special guest, Canadian actress and comedian Julie Nolke on her breakfast feelings. Check out Julie's vids on YouTube, or follow her @julienolke on Instagram and @juliemarienolke on Twitter. Special...

[BONUS] Holiday Baking SNAFUs with ATK's Elle Simone Scott

December 02, 2021 12:00 - 25 minutes - 23.7 MB

For the past 10 years, the Food52 Editors have been answering the community's questions on the Food52 Hotline. We've debated the very best way to cut an onion, whether garlic pressing is sacrilegious, and compared notes on how to get the crispiest chicken skin. And now, we're taking those questions to the airwaves! Hosted by chef and restaurateur Esther Choi, Hotline Offline will leave you with a better understanding of how and why recipes and chefs say what they do (and empower you to aband...

[BONUS] My Family Recipe: Motherhood & Chocolate Cake

October 15, 2021 14:39 - 33 minutes - 30.7 MB

First up: A food writer's reflection on loss and grief—and the untold power of a mother-knows-best birthday cake. "I think food can serve so many important functions, specifically in grief. It is a way to nourish us, physically nourish us, at a time when we are just feeling so weak and so sad and so, maybe incapable of nourishing ourselves well." —Lisa Ruland Referenced in this episode: A Chocolate Cake That Celebrates Mothers—Lost & Found (Food52) Chocolate Cake with Whipped Cream Frost...

[BONUS] Black & Highly Flavored: Black Women Brew with Atinuke Diver

September 30, 2021 11:00 - 28 minutes - 26.1 MB

If you liked this podcast, remember to subscribe to Black & Highly Flavored so you don't miss any future episodes. SoulPhoodies Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk speak with Atinuke Diver about This Belongs to Us, her documentary chronicling the stories of Black women brewers in the American south, and their journeys of reclamation and revival as they navigate the predominantly white- and male-dominated landscape of beer in America.

[BONUS] Black & Highly Flavored: Discover Black-Owned Restaurants with EatOkra

September 23, 2021 11:00 - 19 minutes - 18.2 MB

If you liked this podcast, remember to subscribe to Black & Highly Flavored so you don't miss any future episodes. SoulPhoodies Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk speak with Anthony and Janique Edwards, founders of the EatOkra app, which helps users discover local Black-owned restaurants and businesses.

[BONUS] Black & Highly Flavored: Black Smoke with Adrian Miller

September 16, 2021 11:00 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MB

If you liked this podcast, remember to subscribe to Black & Highly Flavored so you don't miss any future episodes. SoulPhoodies Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk are joined today by author Adrian Miller (@SoulFoodScholar) to discuss his recent book, Black Smoke, the definitive history of African-Americans' influence on barbecue culture. (And here are those BBQ-ready spices Derek mentioned!)

[BONUS] Introducing: My Family Recipe

September 13, 2021 16:46 - 1 minute - 1.63 MB

Adapted from Food52’s much beloved column, My Family Recipe (the podcast!) is brought to you by the Food52 Podcast Network and Heritage Radio Network. Enjoy interviews with writers and chefs, parents and children about what is passed down along with the foods we know and love.  Follow My Family Recipe wherever you listen.

[BONUS] Black & Highly Flavored: Ice Cream's Black History with Lokelani Alabanza

September 09, 2021 11:00 - 23 minutes - 21.4 MB

If you like this episode, head on over to  Black and Highly Flavored's show page and hit "follow," so you don't miss any of the amazing upcoming episodes. In partnership with the Food52 Podcast Network, SoulPhoodie founders Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk created the Black & Highly Flavored podcast to tell the stories and showcase the talent of Black creators and entrepreneurs excelling and innovating in the food and beverage space.  This episode: Tamara and Derek speak with Saturated Ice Cr...

Black and Highly Flavored: Ice Cream's Black History with Lokelani Alabanza

September 09, 2021 11:00 - 23 minutes - 21.4 MB

If you like this episode, head on over to  Black and Highly Flavored's show page and hit "follow," so you don't miss any of the amazing upcoming episodes. In partnership with the Food52 Podcast Network, SoulPhoodie founders Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk created the Black & Highly Flavored podcast to tell the stories and showcase the talent of Black creators and entrepreneurs excelling and innovating in the food and beverage space.  This episode: Tamara and Derek speak with Saturated Ice Cr...

Introducing: Black & Highly Flavored

August 24, 2021 11:00 - 1 minute - 1.03 MB

On Black & Highly Flavored, SoulPhoodies Tamara Celeste and Derek Kirk shine a light on the need-to-know Black movers and shakers of our food and beverage industry. From the Food52 Podcast Network, Black & Highly Flavored is coming soon—follow the show page so you don't miss a thing.

The Sandwich Universe: BLT

August 05, 2021 11:00 - 37 minutes - 34.3 MB

If you liked this episode, head over to The Sandwich Universe's show page to subscribe so you don't miss out on Molly and Declan tackling the many more sandwiches to come! Molly and Declan figure out how to avoid the dreaded slip-sliding when building (oh, and solve that scratched-up-mouth problem).  Thanks to our listeners for your questions, and we still need your help! Send your burning sandwich questions (not burning sandwich, you know what we mean) to [email protected].   

[BONUS] The Sandwich Universe: BLT

August 05, 2021 11:00 - 37 minutes - 34.3 MB

If you liked this episode, head over to The Sandwich Universe's show page to subscribe so you don't miss out on Molly and Declan tackling the many more sandwiches to come! Molly and Declan figure out how to avoid the dreaded slip-sliding when building (oh, and solve that scratched-up-mouth problem).  Thanks to our listeners for your questions, and we still need your help! Send your burning sandwich questions (not burning sandwich, you know what we mean) to [email protected].   

Counterjam: Salsa Rica With Felipe Esparza & Enrique Olvera

July 29, 2021 11:00 - 45 minutes - 41.6 MB

On this episode, you'll learn what makes a perfect taco, what it was like when Grupo Enrique Olvera chef-owner Enrique Olvera first encountered "Mexican" food in the U.S., and comedian Felipe Esparza's love of fideo and mafiosos. Music is by the incredible electronica-norteño ensemble Nortec Collective.  Keep the party going by checking out the Counterjam playlists on Spotify, while you try chef Enrique's recipe for Frijoles Puercos. Find more Counterjam episodes here.

[BONUS] Counterjam: Salsa Rica With Felipe Esparza & Enrique Olvera

July 29, 2021 11:00 - 45 minutes - 41.6 MB

On this episode, you'll learn what makes a perfect taco, what it was like when Grupo Enrique Olvera chef-owner Enrique Olvera first encountered "Mexican" food in the U.S., and comedian Felipe Esparza's love of fideo and mafiosos. Music is by the incredible electronica-norteño ensemble Nortec Collective.  Keep the party going by checking out the Counterjam playlists on Spotify, while you try chef Enrique's recipe for Frijoles Puercos. Find more Counterjam episodes here.

Foo-foo for Fufu With Ego Nwodim, Femi Kuti & Made Kuti

July 22, 2021 11:00 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MB

Self-proclaimed fufu-head Peter J. Kim sits down with comedian Ego Nwodim and Afrobeat pioneers Femi and Made Kuti to discuss ultimate jollof, Nigerian religi-pop, and the beloved ball of cooked starch that goes by many names. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 will look at Mexican, Jewish, Ethiopian, and French food and music; featuring guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, and Top Chef favorite Mory Sacko. It's an absolute audible feast—wee hope t...

Welcome to the Sandwich Universe

July 13, 2021 11:00 - 2 minutes - 2.38 MB

Molly Baz (Professional Chef) and Declan Bond (Professional Eater) are on a mission to uncover the far side of 10 iconic deli sandwiches. Expect otherworldly philosophical debate, beamed-in listeners, and rigorous tests in the lab (er, kitchen).  Presented by Cabot Creamery, The Sandwich Universe is coming soon to the Food52 Podcast Network. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, so you don't miss a thing.

[BONUS] Welcome to the Sandwich Universe

July 13, 2021 11:00 - 2 minutes - 2.38 MB

Molly Baz (Professional Chef) and Declan Bond (Professional Eater) are on a mission to uncover the far side of 10 iconic deli sandwiches. Expect otherworldly philosophical debate, beamed-in listeners, and rigorous tests in the lab (er, kitchen).  Presented by Cabot Creamery, The Sandwich Universe is coming soon to the Food52 Podcast Network. Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, so you don't miss a thing.

[BONUS] Counterjam: Breaking the Bento Box with Yumi Nagashima, G Yamazawa & Dan the Automator

July 08, 2021 11:00 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MB

Relationships with teriyaki, sushi stereotypes, and the immigrant hustle—host Peter J. Kim looks at Japanese-American cultural identity with comedian Yumi Nagashima, rapper G Yamazawa, and producer Dan the Automator. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is out NOW, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf rock artist Gitkin, and norteño-electronica ...

Counterjam: Breaking the Bento Box with Yumi Nagashima, G Yamazawa & Dan the Automator

July 08, 2021 11:00 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MB

Relationships with teriyaki, sushi stereotypes, and the immigrant hustle—host Peter J. Kim looks at Japanese-American cultural identity with comedian Yumi Nagashima, rapper G Yamazawa, and producer Dan the Automator. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is out NOW, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf rock artist Gitkin, and norteño-electronica ...

[BONUS] Counterjam: Flavors of NYC with Jarobi White & Kelis

July 01, 2021 11:00 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MB

This episode is all about the city that never sleeps and always eats. Host Peter J. Kim looks at the undefinable cuisine of New York City, with the help of A Tribe Called Quest founding member Jarobi White and multiplatinum artist, chef, and fashion icon Kelis. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is out NOW, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf...

[BONUS] Counterjam: Getting Jjigae With Margaret Cho, Roy Choi & Peter's Mom

July 01, 2021 11:00 - 48 minutes - 44.2 MB

On this episode, host Peter J. Kim looks at Korean-American food culture—with chef Roy Choi, comedian Margaret Cho, and his mom (!)—in all its stinky, fermented, fishy beauty. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is coming tomorrow, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf rock artist Gitkin, and norteño-electronica ensemble Nortec Collective. It's ...

Counterjam: Flavors of NYC with Jarobi White & Kelis

July 01, 2021 11:00 - 42 minutes - 38.9 MB

This episode is all about the city that never sleeps and always eats. Host Peter J. Kim looks at the undefinable cuisine of New York City, with the help of A Tribe Called Quest founding member Jarobi White and multiplatinum artist, chef, and fashion icon Kelis. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is out NOW, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf...

The Genius Tapes: "We Are All Free" with Toni-Tipton Martin

June 19, 2021 11:00 - 25 minutes - 23.5 MB

Subscribe to The Genius Recipe Tapes here. Referenced in this episode: Toni Tipton-Martin's Louisiana Barbecued Shrimp recipe Toni's non-profit, The SANDE Youth Project Toni Tipton-Martin named 2021 Julia Child Award recipient (The Julia Child Award) Genius-Hunter Extra Credit: Check out Toni's cookbooks, Jubilee and The Jemima Code For more recipes celebrating Black food history, check out @meikoandthedish's 38 Jubilant Recipes to Kick Off Black History Month Special thanks to liste...

Counterjam: Getting Jjigae With Margaret Cho, Roy Choi & Peter's Mom

June 06, 2021 11:00 - 48 minutes - 44.2 MB

On this episode, host Peter J. Kim looks at Korean-American food culture—with chef Roy Choi, comedian Margaret Cho, and his mom (!)—in all its stinky, fermented, fishy beauty. Find more Counterjam episodes here; season 2 is coming tomorrow, and features guests like Broad City creator Ilana Glazer, comedian Felipe Esparza, fave Top Chef contestant Mory Sacko, and your new-favorite musicians like Middle-Eastern surf rock artist Gitkin, and norteño-electronica ensemble Nortec Collective. It's ...

The Happiest Hour With Rachel Khoo

May 20, 2021 11:00 - 32 minutes - 29.5 MB

Jen Phanomrat and Katie Quinn talk about the happiest hour, aka aperitivo, apéritif, and fika. They also talk about airplane food, ice cubes in wine, and how Apéritif author Rebekah Peppler and Food Network TV personality Rachel Khoo craft Friday coziness affordably. Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Got a Q for us? Record a voice memo and send it here for a chance to be featured!   

Ketchup's History Is Bananas With Frankie Celenza

May 13, 2021 11:00 - 29 minutes - 27.3 MB

Who knew ketchup could be so controversial? Co-hosts Katie Quinn and Jen Phanomrat are joined by Tastemade's Frankie Celenza to discuss which foods are OK to smother in the stuff, catsup's surprising original formula (hint: no tomato), banana ketchup (!), homemade ketchup (!!), and why Heinz has remained king.  You can find Frankie's Tastemade show, Struggle Meals, on most streaming platforms, or follow his kitchen adventures on Instagram at @frankiecooks. Special thanks to listeners for y...

Halloumi Is Hella Good

May 06, 2021 11:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MB

Why are Brits so obsessed with halloumi? Just Eats Life's Jen Phanomrat (and New Yorker for life!) and expat-in-Europe Katie Quinn look at the hella complicated history of halloumi. Some more ways to houdini cheese into your life: Cheddar Brownies recipe from Katie's newest book (!) the  Masamman Halloumi Curry Jen mentions Special thanks to our listeners for your questions and Brian Quinn (@bqfunk) for our theme music. Have a Q for us? Send us a voice memo for a chance to be featured.

Egg-stremely Bad Egg Puns With Julie Nolke

May 06, 2021 11:00 - 32 minutes - 29.7 MB

New-Yorker-for-life Jen keeps her eggs in her fridge; Katie, who's now in Puglia, used to but now doesn't—as per her Egg Guy's (yup) recommendation. We look at which cultures chill vs. not, what makes an egg brown or white (and orange-yolked!), if a "proper" omelet even exists, and consult very special guest, Canadian actress and comedian Julie Nolke on her breakfast feelings. Check out Julie's vids on YouTube, or follow her @julienolke on Instagram and @juliemarienolke on Twitter. Special...

Introducing: Either Side Eaters

March 17, 2021 19:17 - 1 minute - 1.01 MB

Quick: What goes on the scone first, cream or jam? Is it called a hot dog or a frankfurter? With the help of listeners and notable guests, New Yorker Jen Phanomrat and expat in Europe Katie Quinn explore food culture and social norms from either side of the Atlantic.

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