Dear White Women
245 episodes - English - Latest episode: 21 days ago - ★★★★★ - 138 ratingsBiracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're real. Join us on this journey.
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143: Decolonizing Wellness, with Dalia Kinsey
November 30, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 66.1 MBOur next guest is not only the author of a book we both can’t wait to read - Decolonizing Wellness - but also talks specifically to those individuals who are at the intersection of BIPOC and LGBTQ identities. When you think about bodies, beauty, and self-care, that’s often a group that gets lost, not only in popular consciousness but also in media portrayals of what is considered desirable or attractive. And, when you’re struggling to be seen, or fit in, or even survive - this can be devasta...
142: Here’s HOW to Have Those Uncomfortable Holiday Conversations
November 23, 2021 08:00 - 18 minutes - 17.3 MBWe’ve been asked a lot about how to have uncomfortable conversations lately - namely, the reality that, yikes, my people are coming over for the holidays and how on earth do I handle it when those uncomfortable, racist, inappropriate comments and jokes come up? (Because let’s be real - they’re coming up.) While there is no official checklist for success, we DO have quite a number of tips to help guide you and your group into more meaningful, engaging conversations around your holiday table...
141: Ending Racism with Shelly Tygielski and Justin Michael Williams
November 16, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 57.7 MBWhen we sat down to talk with our next two guests, we were already big fans. They had presented as part of the Embodied Social Justice certificate course that we had taken together this summer, and their theme was clear: how we end racism. In one generation. So, if your immediate reaction is one of incredulity, then maybe you need to hear this episode more than you think. Because their method is not one of hammering hard facts into people’s heads - it’s an approach based primarily on lov...
140: Becoming Abolitionists, with Derecka Purnell
November 09, 2021 08:00 - 42 minutes - 39.4 MBWe first heard about our guest today when we were all participating in the Edelweiss Book Fest as Editors’ Picks and couldn’t get her, or her book, out of our heads. While “abolition” has been a word largely associated with slavery, it has taken on a new meaning when it comes to the police in America. Yes, we know - this word is scary. Police reform can seem daunting. But Derecka Purnell not only understands that, but she has a framework for how we need to be thinking about this process, and...
139: Vote for Humanity, AGAIN
November 02, 2021 07:00 - 45 minutes - 41.3 MBIf you’re listening to this episode on the day it’s released, this is Election Day in the United States. So, if you haven’t gone to vote yet, and you’re not in a mail-in ballot state, go do that and come back and listen - or, if you’re not sure if you’re going to vote, you may want to listen right now and make time to get out and cast your ballot. Because this Election Day is really important, especially if you’re in states like Virginia. Why? Well, according to Heather Cox Richardson:...
138: Who Do We Call Americans? with John Tateishi
October 26, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 68.7 MBWhen we first thought about talking to our guest John Tateishi today, we thought about diving into the reparations process that he helped lead for Japanese survivors of the internment camps on American soil - especially as a great follow-up to our conversation with cameron whitten about reparations for slavery. Being biracial Japanese/White women, growing up in the United States meant that the history of internment camps, reparations, and the treatment of Japanese Americans as the “other” we...
137: Reparations with cameron whitten
October 19, 2021 07:00 - 42 minutes - 39.3 MBWhen you hear the word “reparations” - what do you think? If you’re like us, it’s probably something you sort of thought about in theory, but realize there’s so much to understand that you want to hide. It’s not an easy word with an easy answer or a clear path forward, nor is it uncomplicated. Fortunately, we love to get complicated AND messy on this podcast, and so that’s why we’re thrilled today to have cameron whitten, the CEO of the racial justice nonprofit Brown Hope and Co-Founder ...
136: Book Launch Day, ask us anything!
October 12, 2021 07:00 - 19 minutes - 17.7 MBIt’s book launch day! And if you haven’t already pre-ordered, it’s time that you get your order in for Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism! And then tell your friends and family today about it so they order, too. Will make for some good conversations – plus, we’ll be opening up a book club conversation with you in November! What to listen for, in celebration of our book launch, are the answers to a few questions we whittled down from an “Ask Us Anything” 24...
135: Remember the Titans
October 05, 2021 07:00 - 37 minutes - 34.9 MBRemember the Titans has the specific scene that happens part of the way through the movie, when Coach Boone gets everyone out of bed in the middle of the night and tells them they’re going for a run in the woods. They run to the location of the Battle of Gettysburg. And Coach Boone stands there and he tells them: “Anybody know what this place is? This is Gettysburg. This is where they fought the Battle of Gettysburg. Fifty thousand men died right here on this field, fightin’ the same fight...
134: Beautiful Country, with Qian Julie Wang
September 28, 2021 07:00 - 37 minutes - 34.7 MBSometimes there are those books that are so hauntingly beautiful, disturbing, or touching (or all three) that you can’t stop thinking about them for days after you finally put them down after binge reading them. Some of those for us are The Handmaid’s Tale, or Americanah, or Song of Solomon. But recently, we found another book that we’ve been thinking about ever since putting it down - Beautiful Country. In her debut memoir, which she started writing in 2016 while on the subway on her iPho...
133: The Inner Work of Racial Justice, with Rhonda McGee
September 21, 2021 07:00 - 26 minutes - 24.8 MBLast week’s episode was all about QAnon and how conspiracy theories can divide us as a nation. One of the things we think we can do to bridge the divide is bring mindfulness and skills around living with mindfulness into conversations about race, racism, identity, and beliefs - and to do that, we got to speak with an incredible law professor named Rhonda McGee. In speaking with Rhonda, we learned not only about the role of law in helping - and hurting - racial divides, but we also discusse...
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September 14, 2021 07:00 - 55 minutes - 51.1 MBThis fall we’re focused on hot-button topics. If you remember, we kicked off the fall with a conversation about the census and representation, which then moved into representation in the media and movies with Kamala Avila-Salmon, the head of inclusive content at Lionsgate Films. Today, we’re here to talk about another hot button topic that we’ve all heard about the last couple of years but we’ve never touched yet on the show: QAnon. This conversation we’re about to share gave us some persp...
132: Pastels, Pedophiles and QAnon - with Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalen
September 14, 2021 07:00 - 55 minutes - 51.1 MBThis fall we’re focused on hot-button topics. If you remember, we kicked off the fall with a conversation about the census and representation, which then moved into representation in the media and movies with Kamala Avila-Salmon, the head of inclusive content at Lionsgate Films. Today, we’re here to talk about another hot button topic that we’ve all heard about the last couple of years but we’ve never touched yet on the show: QAnon. This conversation we’re about to share gave us some persp...
131: Representation Matters, with Kamala Avila-Salmon
September 07, 2021 07:00 - 1 hour - 59.2 MBWe promised last week in our intro to fall and census conversation that we’d be focusing on some hot button topics that we’ve seen trending of late. And representation is a huge one - especially with the recent release of the mostly Asian cast of Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings - and the question of how people in the entertainment field can get “diverse” movies totally right, or totally wrong. Today we’re talking with the fantastic Kamala Avila-Salmon, head of inclusive content...
130: School’s Back In Session (And We’re Starting With The Census)
September 01, 2021 07:00 - 28 minutes - 26.2 MBHello and welcome to Fall! What we’re really excited about - besides our book coming out in mid October! - is our fall lineup of episodes. Now that we’re done with our Summer of Action, we’re focused on issues that have not only been in our consciousness, but ones that we’ve been hearing about throughout 2021 and ones that we’d like to highlight for the fall. In September, we’ll be focusing on current events and topics that you may have heard about in the news - including representation ...
129: Is Your Workplace Psychologically Safe? with Jeff Harry
August 25, 2021 07:00 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MBLet’s talk about workplace safety. No, not that kind of workplace safety - we’re here to talk about building psychologically safe workspaces, which in our opinion is a crucial conversation especially as we’re reimagining workspaces in this era of COVID. And you’ll want to hear this WHOLE conversation, because there are knowledge bombs just being tossed around by our guest throughout this entire episode. Today we’re talking to Jeff Harry, who is the founder of Rediscover Your Play, and who ...
128: Love as a Business Strategy, with Softway
August 18, 2021 07:00 - 48 minutes - 44.9 MBIf you’re listening to this episode at the time that it’s being released, and you’re thinking about work, you’re probably thinking about returning to a physical office in this new land of the Delta variant, or perhaps you’re looking for a job, or you’re figuring out how to get a new job because you’re done with the one that you have. Or maybe you don’t want to talk or think about work at all. But the reality is - we all understand work dynamics and most of us cannot escape the reality that w...
127: Your Donations Matter. WHERE You Donate Matters, Too. - with Sable Schultz
August 11, 2021 07:00 - 41 minutes - 37.7 MBAfter last week’s episode with Christine Platt (aka the Afrominimalist), this scenario may sound familiar: You look around your house. It’s full of stuff - stuff that you don’t wear, stuff that you don’t use, stuff that you don’t need. You gather everything up in bags and boxes and, once the Donate pile is big enough, you move it to the garage or outside, ready for the next step. But then you pause. What IS the next step? Where do you take what you don’t need anymore, that can provide the ...
126: Minimalism Is Liberation, with the Afrominimalist
August 04, 2021 07:00 - 48 minutes - 44.5 MBWhen you think about liberation, what comes to mind: Intentional action? Physical protests? Thoughtful contemplation? One thing we didn’t really think about was minimalism as a form of liberation. We didn’t see the connection then between liberation and simplifying until after we spoke with our guest, and read her book. Now we believe: less can be liberation. Today we interview Christine Platt, who is also known as the Afrominimalist. And in preparation, ask yourself: what is a minimalist ...
125: It’s Time to NOT Watch the Olympics
July 28, 2021 07:00 - 22 minutes - 21.1 MBAfter what seemed like five years rolled into one in 2020, it’s hard to believe that we are now approximately halfway through 2021. We hope that our earlier summer episodes have given you all some ways to practically and intentionally think differently about small, yet impactful, decisions that we make as part of our everyday lives. But as we think of summer, we also think about the Summer Olympics. In general, we love everything about them - the athletics, the camaraderie, the national pr...
124: We Can Do Hard Things, with The Opt-In (Part II)
July 21, 2021 07:00 - 27 minutes - 25 MBAs we’re still in our summer of action, we had a conversation lately behind the scenes to ask ourselves: are these episodes actionable enough? And we really believe that to make all of this work sustainable, sometimes it has to be in the little things. It has to be in which link you send to your friend about a book you’re recommending - Amazon or Bookshop? - and it has to be in looking deep within yourself and looking around to build a more diverse community. But sometimes it’s also about do...
123: Cross-Racial Friendships with The Opt-In (Part I)
July 14, 2021 07:00 - 34 minutes - 32 MBWe’re continuing our summer of action and diving deeper. And as we’re releasing this episode, we’re also in the midst of a summer that’s been filled with more friends and family and conversation and ability to BE TOGETHER in a way that we haven’t been able to be since March of 2020. #vaccines It makes us think of friendship, community, and how much we learn from each other - not only through our similarities, which is how we often create friendships, but also our differences, which can be ...
122: Being Brave+Kind With Bunnie Hilliard
July 07, 2021 07:00 - 45 minutes - 41.5 MBIf you’ve been listening to our episodes in order, you know we’ve been focused on the role of community, as well as small business in community - and how we can show up for one another when we support the amazing people who run these. Today we have Bunnie Hilliard, the owner of an Atlanta-based bookstore called Brave+Kind, on the podcast. She talks about her move from corporate America to opening Brave+Kind, the intentionality that comes into all of her decisions about the physical space ...
121: Coffee and Community with Nirvana Soul
June 30, 2021 07:00 - 30 minutes - 27.8 MBLet’s face it: we are an app-based, “easy button” based, instant gratification kind of society. One click of a button and we get something brought to our house: food, alcohol, flowers - basically anything you can ask for. If it’s not instant, you can get it for free shipping and in two days if you’re an Amazon Prime member. But, as we’ve often asked on this podcast, what is the true cost of your purchases when you’re getting them through these apps, and not through your community and local s...
120: A Radical Awakening, with Dr. Shefali
June 23, 2021 07:00 - 22 minutes - 20.4 MBEvery once in a while, we both read a book that makes us immediately text the other to say: have you read this? Isn’t it amazing? That’s what happened when we read A Radical Awakening. We were blown away by the revolutionary way of thinking and being that is suggested for women in this book, and were so deeply grateful to find that Dr. Shefali’s energy and authenticity match her reputation. There’s little else left for us to say, other than this is a can’t-miss episode, and that you sh...
119: Moms, How Whyte Are Your Circles? With Larisa Courtien
June 16, 2021 07:00 - 21 minutes - 19.6 MBMamas, here’s a real question for you: How Whyte are your spaces? We write that word that way because the censors seem to be limiting our ability to write it as w-h-i-t-e without being hurt by the algorithms. But really, when we talk about a summer of action, we mean starting within your very own spheres of influence. And as moms, we have a lot of influence. So let’s start by looking at our own circles! Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected] W...
118: Radical Empathy with Terri Givens
June 09, 2021 07:00 - 29 minutes - 27.2 MBIf you’ve been listening to our podcast for a while, you know that we lean into heart-led action to create change - and today we get to interview an expert on where that heart-led action comes from. Terri Givens is a woman of many talents, but one of them is author, and we’re talking to her about her book Radical Empathy, which provides a framework as to how we reach radical empathy for ourselves, and where radical empathy can be used to make change and bridge racial divides (hint: it’s pret...
117: One Year: An Intro to Our Summer of Action
June 02, 2021 07:00 - 13 minutes - 12.8 MBWe’re here, just over one year after the murder of George Floyd, with a question: now that we’ve spent a year in discussions centered on being more open about racism, systemic racism, and how we can be more anti-racist, what have we actually done about it? How do we feel? Where do we go from here, and more importantly - where should we collectively be moving as a country? Today’s episode is a conversation - a reflection of what we’ve experienced last year collectively and personally, and...
116: We’re Not Your Lotus Flower: Asian Women in America
May 26, 2021 07:00 - 19 minutes - 17.6 MBThis episode is personal, as we’re both Japanese women. We’ve been called exotic. We’ve had White men visibly change their reactions to us when they find out we’re Japanese. We’ve then had to hear about their “other Asian girlfriends”. For the record? That’s disgusting. But we need to talk. We need to talk about what we’ve personally experienced, what our Asian female friends have experienced, and the history that we, as a country, don’t want to talk about - namely, how Asian women are s...
115: Asians at Work, with Jerry Won
May 19, 2021 07:00 - 50 minutes - 46.3 MBWhen’s the last time you had a conversation with someone of Asian descent? Not just a transactional conversation, or a “hi how are you” mumbled in passing, but one where you saw them as a product of their history and experiences and asked them something perhaps more sensitive and interesting than “where are YOU from?” Something about their goals, their passions, and how their identities may have played into shaping who they are, rather than relying on the stereotypes that are so pervasive in...
114: Do You Know Why It’s Called the Model Minority Myth?
May 12, 2021 07:00 - 23 minutes - 21.7 MBContinuing with this focus on our Asian stories during Asian American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month this May, we want to dismantle one of the most harmful stereotypes of Asian Americans: that of the “model minority.” But what is it, exactly? It’s many things - we’ve got tons of examples. But fundamentally, it’s the thing that has us believe that all Asians are subservient, meek, and inherently successful - and ignores the complicated history of Asian immigration, the fact that Asi...
113: Anti-Asian Racism Ain’t New, People
May 05, 2021 07:00 - 32 minutes - 30.1 MBIn your elementary, middle, and high school years - what did you learn about Asian American history? Can you name even one specific thing that you learned about the role of Asians in American history? If you can’t name many, you aren’t alone - these weren’t generally taught in schools when we were growing up. And given how things are slow to change, there’s a high chance your children aren’t learning these in school now either. The importance of representation in curriculum is a favorite...
112: Asians at (Public) School, with Alan Mak
April 28, 2021 07:00 - 48 minutes - 44.1 MBWe’re kicking off a five-episode series that takes a deeper look into what it means to be Asian/Asian-American in this country - looking at the history behind anti-Asian discrimination, but also really talking about what being Asian means for us, and for our guests. Today we talk about all of that, and more, with Sara’s dear old friend Alan Mak, who is the co-founder and CEO of Version Tomorrow as well as the managing partner of the well-known fashion brand Public School. This is a conve...
111: Pay Attention to Where You Pay Attention with Michael Goldhaber
April 21, 2021 07:00 - 44 minutes - 41.3 MBIf you’re listening to this episode while scrolling through your phone, we want you to stop and pay attention. This episode, after all, will be all about attention - how we use it, where we spend it, and why some people are so good at pulling attention towards them, good OR bad. We want to thank Charlie Warzel at the NY Times for bringing this week’s guest, Michael Goldhaber, to our attention. After all, how often do you get to connect with a visionary human being who predicted the destr...
110: Why We Should All Care About the Filibuster
April 14, 2021 07:00 - 20 minutes - 18.5 MBThe filibuster is a political tool that we’ve been hearing more about in the media - but what is it really, and what role does it play in not only stalling political agendas but importantly, in keeping Black and Brown people suppressed? If we’re going to see it stay - or possibly go away - we need to know more. We’re talking about this today on why we should all care about the filibuster. Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected] What to listen for: A ...
109: What SCOTUS May Decide About Social Safety Nets - Including Abortion
April 07, 2021 07:00 - 20 minutes - 18.9 MBWhile “socialism” has often been the catchphrase used to instantly dismiss any talk of building social safety nets, people in a society do need some fundamental assurances of safety in order to function - and function well. Particularly if you’re a woman, love a woman, or are a person of childbearing age, one specific angle of social safety nets is going to be considered before the Supreme Court. That is to say, access to decisions about women’s reproductive rights: abortion. Take a li...
108: Why We Should All Be Concerned About Voter Suppression
March 31, 2021 07:00 - 18 minutes - 17.5 MB2020 was a record-setting year for voting. As Politico noted, the United States saw the largest raw turnout ever, with 81 million voters backing Biden over Trump, whose 74 million votes are the second-most in U.S. history. But as many news sources noted recently, states nationwide are about to make it harder to vote. Acting partly in response to widespread false allegations of fraud in the 2020 presidential election (aka the Big Lie, namely that Trump won the election and there’s wid...
107: We Have a White Accountability Problem: Stand Together And Stop AAPI Hate
March 24, 2021 07:00 - 17 minutes - 16.3 MBWe are two Asian American women sitting here, shaken, devastated, and ANGRY about the senseless loss of life in Atlanta. Yet at the same time that we heard that eight people, including six Asian women, had been murdered in their place of business by a sole white male shooter - we were waiting for the excuses. For the lone shooter story. And for the lack of white accountability. And we weren’t disappointed. Regardless of the shooter’s story, to Asians, this is a hate crime. The problem i...
106: Black Boy Out Of Time with Hari Ziyad
March 17, 2021 07:00 - 50 minutes - 46.5 MBLove and Logic is a parenting philosophy that’s taken the parenting world by storm, showing adults how to discipline their children without losing their love and respect. Yet in the “real world,” we continue to use a punitive (carceral) system to discipline juveniles and adults alike - a system that disproportionately impacts people of color. Given our recent conversations on intersectionality and the importance of considering policies that are structured to be good for ALL Americans, ho...
105: Women Are the Majority - Let’s Act Like It
March 10, 2021 08:00 - 18 minutes - 17 MBIt’s time we talk about the power that women have - and to be clear, we mean anybody who identifies as a woman. We need to talk about the state of womanhood today, the power we don’t even realize we have, and the division and self-hate we need to step away from so we can embrace our whole selves and each other. Why? Because we can MAKE CHANGE TOGETHER. Let’s lean into intersectionality, look for ways to support each other through our communities, and reflect internally on how we show up f...
104: What If We Had Social Safety Nets? The Black Panther Party (PART II)
March 03, 2021 08:00 - 26 minutes - 24.5 MBLearning about the Black Panther Party and its grassroots community programs informs not only our understanding of history but how the modern-day Black Lives Matter movement has been treated. The Black Panther Party put many of its community programs in place in a remarkably short time, which also caused the FBI to sit up and take notice. But the key point we keep coming back to is that these programs worked, and more importantly, they were so crucial for the communities that they served. ...
103: Policing the Police - The Black Panther Party (PART I)
February 24, 2021 08:00 - 25 minutes - 23.5 MBIf you ask many current activists fighting anti-Black racism and inequity today, they’ll tell you that the influence of the Black Panthers is immeasurable. But as TIME magazine pointed out in February of 2021, for the past half-century, depictions of the Black Panther Party in mainstream media have largely glossed over their ideas or their community activism. “They’ve been reduced to leather peacoats and shotguns,” Shaka King, the director of the new Black Panther-focused film Judas and th...
102: How to Spot Fake News with Professor Emily Bell
February 17, 2021 08:00 - 59 minutes - 54.6 MBHave you heard the term fake news? It’s been around for a while, but it was popularized by Trump who continues to dismiss all checks to his Big Lie and tries to continue muddying the waters around truth, facts, and reality. We bring you a conversation with Professor Emily Bell of Columbia University School of Journalism. In it, you’ll get the tools to fight for reality, for facts, for science, and be on the factually correct side of history. Have questions, comments, or concerns? Em...
101: The Power of Women’s Rage with Soraya Chemaly
February 10, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 58.9 MBIf the fuming, seething feeling we sat with for weeks after the Capitol was stormed is any indication, feeling anger stinks and is bad for our bodies. But we as women have not been taught how to handle this feeling; in fact, we’re often taught to shove anger down and away, while going on with our day, taking care of others. This is why we’re thrilled to be having a conversation with Soraya Chemaly, author of Rage Becomes Her, to talk about how women have been conditioned by our society, w...
100: What Leads People to Help Others? Good vs Evil with Professor Ervin Staub
February 03, 2021 08:00 - 1 hour - 57.3 MBThe United States has been divided, and as shown with the storming of the Capitol Building in early 2021, the threat of violence is real. However, there is also the potential for a lot of good if we lean into our humanity. What do we do to help ourselves and our country? There was no better person to talk about this issue than Professor Ervin Staub, a professor emeritus of psychology and founding director of the Psychology of Peace and Violence Program at the University of Massachusetts Am...
99: What Are White Women Thinking? With Jenna Arnold
January 27, 2021 08:00 - 57 minutes - 52.7 MBUncomfortable question: Why can’t we as women get behind policies that strengthen all women - not just the ones who are White - especially when the only ones who really benefit from White supremacy and the status quo are rich White men? We bring you a conversation with one of the founders of the original Women’s March and author of Raising Our Hands, Jenna Arnold, who spent years speaking with White women in their homes about just these very topics. Have questions, comments, or concerns...
98: Inauguration 2021
January 20, 2021 08:00 - 6 minutes - 5.89 MBWe finally made it to the inauguration of President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris. This day is about a break with Trumpism, a break from the direction that our country has steadily been heading for the past nearly five years, and the fact that the majority (it’s a small one, but still a majority) of our country rejected that ideal in November. What this day is NOT though, is the end of Trumpism. It is not the end of hard work. We have seen violence that we could never imagi...
97: What You Need to Know About Conspiracy Theories with Professor Karen Douglas
January 13, 2021 08:00 - 48 minutes - 45 MBIn case you didn’t see the news, our US Capitol was overrun by a mob of insurgents at the beginning of 2021, largely spurred on by a conspiracy theory led by the American president that the 2020 US Election was rigged. We figured now was a good time to talk about conspiracy theories - with an expert. Today, we bring you an enlightening conversation with Professor Karen Douglas, a social psychologist specializing in the study of conspiracy theories. Have questions, comments, or concern...
96: What Side of History Will You Be On?
January 06, 2021 08:00 - 34 minutes - 32 MBWe’re finally done with 2020… but if 2020 taught us anything, it’s that this period of time we are living through will be examined in the history books. Our grandkids will be asking us what life was like during the global pandemic, how strict our lockdowns were, and what we did to stand up against the racial and social injustices that were made so painfully clear during 2020. So, as you’re thinking about New Year’s resolutions, which, if you’re anything like us, may include more workout t...
95: BYE, 2020!
December 30, 2020 08:00 - 18 minutes - 16.8 MBWe’ve been waiting to record this episode . . . basically the whole year, or at least since early March. It’s our annual wrap-up episode, except that just like everything else in 2020, it’s not like how it was last year. Let’s let this year go in style - prepare to reflect, laugh, and cheer the New Year along with us. Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected] What to listen for: Some highlights of our year (which included you as listeners!) and why ...