Dear White Women
245 episodes - English - Latest episode: 21 days ago - ★★★★★ - 138 ratingsBiracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're real. Join us on this journey.
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193: 100 Diverse Voices on Parenthood, with Jelani Memory
November 15, 2022 08:00 - 28 minutes - 25.8 MBHey, so remember how last week we were talking about how we have hope? This is another conversation and way of thinking that gives me hope - in particular for anybody who knows children, knows new parents, or thinks they might eventually know folks who might want to stop reading the outdated encyclopedia that we call What to Expect when you’re Expecting and flip over to a more contemporary, inclusive, humane book to learn about parenting. Misasha got the opportunity to speak with Jelani...
192: How We Win the Civil War, with Steve Phillips
November 08, 2022 08:00 - 38 minutes - 35 MBIf you’re reading this on the day this episode comes out, this is a big, big day in America. It’s Election Day 2022, and we don’t think it’s an understatement to say that this is the most important election that those of us who have the privilege to vote in will be voting in - because this election may determine if you or I even get to be able to vote in the next election. So, if you’re reading this and have not yet voted today - stop reading, and please, please go vote. We need everyone’s v...
191: About That Voter Fraud
November 01, 2022 07:00 - 35 minutes - 32.8 MBDEAR WHITE WOMEN - About that Voter Fraud… If you saw the title and thought “oh, I don’t believe voter fraud impacts me” or “oh, I live in an area where we don’t hear much about that” - you may be very, very wrong. According to a recent analysis by FiveThirtyEight, 60% of Americans will have an election denier on the ballot. And for those of you who have only heard about election deniers since 2020 - it didn’t start with Donald Trump. Hint: it started with our friend who rhymes with Sch...
190: Why Abortion Became Political
October 25, 2022 07:00 - 50 minutes - 46.5 MBAbortion, by all pollster accounts, seems to be one of – if not THE most – hot-button issues for the upcoming midterm elections in 2022. That’s why we thought it was so important for us to dive into why and when abortion became so political - because yes, we can point to a specific political strategy that linked the pro-life movement with the Republican party, and how that is playing out today in extreme ways. Get ready to connect the dots. What to listen for: How recently - in the 1...
189: The Book, ONE YEAR LATER!
October 18, 2022 07:00 - 26 minutes - 24.8 MBIf you asked me (Misasha) at the end of 2021 how long it had been since we published our book, I would have told you 5 years, give or take 3 - because it felt like we had been thrown into this whirlwind of activity and PR and interviews and ALL OF THE THINGS about this book. So it seems impossible that just now marks the one-year anniversary of the publication of Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism! In honor of this one-year mark, we thought we’d sit down wit...
188: The Thread Collectors
October 11, 2022 07:00 - 39 minutes - 36.2 MBHave you ever had your eyes glaze over when someone hands you a history textbook or walks you through a museum full of facts and dates? But then you hate yourself because you are smart and yet don’t feel like you *know* things? I’ve been that person (it’s Sara here) - which is why I’m absolutely thrilled to share this conversation with the authors of a fabulous historical fiction novel that taught me SO MUCH about American history and the Civil War in particular. We learned so much in rea...
187: The Case for Physical Education In Every School
October 04, 2022 07:00 - 50 minutes - 46.7 MBWhen you think of physical education, or PE, or gym class - what do you remember? Probably the physical side of it, like jump rope or pull-ups or dodgeball or kickball. But what blew our mind in today’s conversation is all of the seemingly invisible, yet intentional, ways PE class teaches us about social interactions, our own capabilities, deconstructing perfectionism, and more - and frighteningly, how so many schools in the US now don’t mandate PE, as it’s a class that’s having to fight f...
186: Reaganomics, Student Debt Relief, and Racism Are All Linked
September 27, 2022 07:00 - 39 minutes - 36.6 MBNothing to kick off this next episode like a fiery title, right? But in case it makes you question whether you’ll hit play, please know that this isn’t your typical economics podcast, nor is it going to be so dry that you turn this off 5 minutes into listening. That said, it IS crucial for you to listen if you want to understand how policies that were made now 40 years ago are still directly affecting us to this day – plus, it gives you a sense of just how important it is to consider wh...
185: Democrats used to be Republicans - WHAT?
September 20, 2022 07:00 - 32 minutes - 29.8 MBThe 2022 Republican Party would have never been able to back Abraham Lincoln as their presidential candidate - except for one tiny detail: Lincoln was a Republican, and espoused the original beliefs of the Republican Party (down to the anti-slavery, committed to equality part). So how did we get from Lincoln’s Republican Party to today’s Trump political base? Who were the Whigs? What do we mean when we say Southern Democrats? Why does this cycle of money and power...
184: Do the Work with W. Kamau Bell
September 13, 2022 07:00 - 15 minutes - 14.3 MBSomeone very smart sent me an article just today that talks about the role of humor when we deal with stressful situations/anxiety-creating moments. And on that front: have any of you (and in this moment, I think we’re specifically talking to White people) ever felt weighed down by how heavy anti-racism work can be? You maybe noticed that sometimes we’re pretty serious on this show… Though I’m a serious, overthinking person sometimes, in real life I’m goofy and I actually make fun of my...
183: Do the Work, with Kate Schatz
September 06, 2022 07:00 - 12 minutes - 12 MBIn all of this anti-racism work, have you ever had a time when the fear of making a mistake kept you from speaking up? It’s not every day we get to interview a NYT bestselling author who’s willing to share how she’s made mistakes so that you know we ALL mess up from time to time. A huge hello and welcome to author Kate Schatz - author, activist, educator, and queer feminist mama who’s been talking, writing, and teaching about race, gender, social justice, and equity for many years. ...
182: What Can I Do to Be More Anti-racist? The Not-a-Checklist Checklist
August 30, 2022 07:00 - 33 minutes - 31.5 MBOver the last 3.5 years, we’ve had this weekly podcast (now on episode 182!), we’ve written a book (Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism), and we’ve spoken with many different people at many different organizations. Meaning, we’ve heard and learned a lot of things. With a few exceptions, our sense is that people *want* to be seen as good people; they say they *want* to be more anti-racist. But despite their best intentions, some things get in the way of yo...
181: How A Single Judge from Texas Controlled US Immigration Policy
August 23, 2022 07:00 - 19 minutes - 18.1 MBYou might be tired of hearing about the Supreme Court taking away people’s rights - but the process behind how SCOTUS does that is important, as depending on the results of the midterms, we may be seeing this more, and with a much wider scope. For example, do you know what SCOTUS did about immigration in July? And if your response was “Wait, what?” then this episode is for you. Tune in to hear about that decision (which stemmed from a Texas judicial challenge to the Biden administrati...
180: What We Did To Native American Kids - Federal Boarding Schools
August 16, 2022 07:00 - 14 minutes - 13.4 MBIn our book, we talk about the federal boarding schools that were just for Native American children - and by boarding schools, we mean that the U.S. government rounded up Native children over the course of 150 years (!!), separated them from their parents and often took them hundreds of miles away… and often times, those kids never came home. If you haven’t heard that story (which is fairly common, given the erasure of the Native narrative in this country), this episode is for you, be...
179: Fancy Asians, Jungle Asians, and the Model Minority Myth
August 09, 2022 07:00 - 11 minutes - 10.8 MBHave you ever been that kid who tugged at the corner of your eyes, pretending to be Asian, or maybe even mocked people of Asian descent? In today’s episode, Sara shares the story of when a little neighborhood boy did that to her. Sure, there might be some sweeping generalizations you can make about Asian people - a lot tend to have dark hair, more almond-shaped eyes - but the truth is, in America, people who fall into the broad bucket of “Asian” have among the largest differences of...
178: What is Qualified Immunity, Anyway?
August 02, 2022 21:59 - 23 minutes - 21.2 MBIn 2020, after the murder of George Floyd, many of us heard the phrase “qualified immunity” for the first time in a new light - but what does the phrase even mean? And why is it so important when we think about police, driving (or existing) while Black, and civil rights in this country? We’ll talk about all of this in today’s episode, so we can help set some context for a major conversation happening in our country - one about abolition. Listen in, and if you want more, go buy our ...
177: Why Reproductive Justice Is Also About Race - Especially If You’re Black
July 26, 2022 07:00 - 10 minutes - 9.41 MBThis episode was recorded before the Dobbs decision came out, but it highlights what we know to be true - there is a disparate impact on Black and brown women when it comes to reproductive justice in this country. And for all of you who have told us, “I’d really like to be friends with Black women, but I don’t understand their experiences,” you’ll want to listen extra carefully. This episode highlights all of the extra things that Black women go through when it comes to things that sh...
176: Can I Say the N-Word? Absolutely Not. Here’s Why.
July 19, 2022 07:00 - 11 minutes - 11.3 MBOne question that comes up frequently enough from White, or non-Black, people to cause us to write not only a whole chapter in our book trying to answer it, but also record this podcast episode, is short but impactful: “Can I say the N-word?” The short answer is no. Absolutely not. The longer answer? Listen to this episode to hear not only why you should never be saying the n-word, but also why it’s so important to educate our kids to never say it either. What to listen for: The ...
175: We’re Still Talking About Slavery - and You Should Be, Too
July 12, 2022 07:00 - 11 minutes - 10.6 MBSo our book, Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism is broken into three sections: On Being White in America; On Being Black in America; On Being a Non-Black Person of Color in America. And here’s the question we get when people see that structure: Why do we need to focus on the experiences of Black people in this country? In this episode, we tell you why - including sharing some things we all need to (re)learn, since it’s not all taught in our schools. ...
174: Post Roe – Turning Rage Into Action
July 05, 2022 07:00 - 17 minutes - 16.3 MBFor the past 3+ years, we’ve been getting loud on this podcast, where our stated mission is to help White women use their privilege to uproot systemic racism without centering themselves in the process. This summer, we’ve been specifically focused on answering the question we often get, “what can we do to be more anti-racist?” and have been releasing bite sized pieces of our work, especially with regard to our recent book, so that we can help White women and allies do this work. Then, we g...
173: What to Say When You Hear “But All Lives Matter”
June 28, 2022 07:00 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MBAll Lives Matter, Black Lives Matter, and decentering the White experience in these conversations. That’s what we’re discussing in today’s episode, because White people, you keep asking us what you can DO differently to be more anti-racist. And while we won’t offer a checklist, we do have an incredible, level-setting book Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism that you can buy to learn more! What to listen for: What Black Lives Matter *really* means Alic...
172: On Performative Allyship
June 21, 2022 07:00 - 10 minutes - 10 MBWhite people, you keep asking us what you can DO differently to be more anti-racist. So this summer, we’re answering that question in bite-sized ways. This isn’t a checklist; this is simply a primer. If you want more, go buy our book, Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism. Today, we’re talking about what the real differences are between performative allyship and real allyship. What does it take to actually be an ally, as opposed to just calling yourself one? ...
171: On White Privilege
June 14, 2022 07:00 - 7 minutes - 6.93 MBAs biracial - Japanese and White - hosts of a long-running weekly podcast, we are very aware that, given how we look, we have, at times, benefited from White privilege. We are also very clear that this is a privilege that Misasha’s Black husband will never once benefit from. Today’s short episode dives into defining what White privilege is, explaining common misconceptions of the term, and what to do when we (or others) push back against accepting the truth about our privilege. Listen in...
170: On Being White
June 07, 2022 07:00 - 19 minutes - 17.9 MBWhite people, you keep asking us what you can DO differently to be more anti-racist. So this summer, we’re answering that question in bite-sized ways. This isn’t a checklist; this is simply a primer. If you want more, go buy our book, Dear White Women: Let’s Get (Un)comfortable Talking About Racism. Today, we’re hitting up some of the most common points of push-back or questions we get when we talk with White people. Because let’s be honest - talking about race and racism is uncomforta...
169: Summer Kick-Off And AMA About Being Biracial
May 31, 2022 07:00 - 21 minutes - 20.1 MBThis summer, instead of spending 50-60 minutes sharing some of the most amazingly honest and thought provoking conversations that we’ve been personally privileged to have (the listen), or doing a deep dive into some part of our collective history that we may have never learned about in school (the learn), or sometimes getting up on our soapbox to get loud and angry about what’s going on in current events and what we can do about it (the act), we’re shaking things up a bit. (Don’t worry - we’...
168: The Overground Railroad, with Candacy Taylor
May 24, 2022 07:00 - 46 minutes - 42.9 MBIn 2003, Misasha drove across the country from New York to Los Angeles with two of her law school girlfriends. In her words: “We were all Asian, and this was the time of SARS, so while they felt a LOT of eyes on us (and repeatedly joked, to ourselves, “no one cough, or we’re never getting out of here”, which wasn’t so much of a joke as us trying to make light of a painful reality), we never felt like we couldn’t stop at a gas station, or that we couldn’t find a place to stay at night, or tha...
167: Ancestry and Belonging, with Ashlee Davis
May 17, 2022 07:00 - 51 minutes - 46.9 MBIf you’ve ever heard about Ancestry.com and thought that this wasn’t something for you due to your own family’s immigration story, or alternately if you love nothing more than to have centuries of your family’s history in the United States documented for you, then this episode is for you. Or, if you’ve never heard of Ancestry before, but you work in corporate America and know you want to help make change for the better, or you’re a parent who wants to talk about origin stories with your own ...
166: Intersectionality and Intentionality with Meg He, Co-Founder of ADAY
May 10, 2022 07:00 - 38 minutes - 35.5 MBWhen we’ve talked about intersectionality in the past, we’ve often talked about it with regard to race and gender, or gender and gender identity - but never quite like this. Our guest today is a queer British Chinese woman who also is a Brazilian Jujitsu competitor, an entrepreneur who raised over $10 million in venture capital financing, and the co-founder of an intentional, beautifully designed clothing company called ADAY. If we were totally into perfectly performative scheduling, w...
165: Dear White Women, Please Come Home - with Kimberlee Williams and Debby Irving
May 03, 2022 07:00 - 36 minutes - 33.5 MBYou know around here we love a good “Dear…” title, especially when it starts with “Dear White Women.” That’s why we were excited to sit down with this week’s guests because Kimberlee’s book title alone had us at “Dear White Women” (for obvious reasons, friends). Her full book title is “Dear White Women, Please Come Home: Hand Me Your Bias and I’ll Show You Our Connection” and once we started reading it, we couldn’t put it down, due to its unique format and powerful message. And this w...
164: How We Talk About Race, and Other Hard Things, with Dr Dome
April 26, 2022 07:00 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBOur platform is called Dear White Women - and through it, we have this podcast, we have a book, we do talks - and a lot of our work, as biracial women, is to welcome more White women into the conversation. As part of that work, we run into people saying that they’re tired of talking about race, worry about saying or doing the wrong thing, and are very concerned about cancel culture, which is why this next conversation is an incredibly important one for all of us to listen to. Dr. Do...
163: Hey, You’re New to Anti-Racism - Where Do You Start? with Andre Brown
April 19, 2022 07:00 - 38 minutes - 35.8 MBSometimes we meet people completely new to the conversations about race and racism - and one of the things we say is important to do is to start with introspection. Andre Brown stood out to us because of his very practical approach to DEI work - in particular, to help us address the question that we think is critical at the very beginning of starting to do this work, which is how to establish that personal baseline. For example: how has race and racism shaped my life? What are the things ...
162: What Does CRT Have To Do with Banned Books?
April 12, 2022 07:00 - 52 minutes - 47.9 MBThis episode’s topic was inspired by a webinar about banned books that featured Nikole Hannah-Jones, Nic Stone, and Dr. Ibram X. Kendi, in conversation with Dr. Emily Knox. IT. WAS. FIRE. But it also got us thinking about CRT, banned books, and the link between the two. So in today’s episode, we answer several questions: first, what is CRT and what is it not (hint: it’s not being taught in K-12 schools); second, where are we seeing the most restrictions around school curriculum, including...
161: Unpacking Affirmative Action
April 05, 2022 07:00 - 57 minutes - 52.4 MBApril marks THREE YEARS since we started the Dear White Women podcast, so it’s only fitting that we run this back to talk about one of the issues that we get asked about (and challenged on) the most: affirmative action. Maybe even hearing those words brings up emotions for you, as it does for us. But today we’re going to talk about all things affirmative action, including where it came from, who the biggest beneficiaries of it have been (and if you know a White woman in this country, you...
160: Do We Really Have a “Pipeline Problem?" Women of Color in STEM, with Michele Heyward
March 29, 2022 07:00 - 46 minutes - 43.1 MBThis episode follows the same thread that we started in last week’s episode: namely, how do we create inclusive workplaces, especially for women of color? And this week’s guest knows all about that and more, especially when it’s related to women of color in STEM. This week we get the pleasure of sitting down with Michele Heyward, who’s not only an engineer herself but the founder of PositiveHire (and we’ll let her tell you more about that), to talk about diverse women in STEM, her...
159: Inclusion on Purpose, with Ruchika Tulshyan
March 22, 2022 07:00 - 44 minutes - 41 MBWhile some things have changed in the 18 years since Sara was in corporate America, a lot of things - namely, DEI work, how we talk about DEI, what words we use, and the urgency with which (White) people view this - have remained the same. And while Misasha’s first official role in DE&I was in 2007, she’s spent a number of years living the reality of what it’s like to not be 100% White in legal America. The conversations may have become more inclusive recently, but it seems like mindsets h...
158: Loveboat Reunion, with Abigail Hing Wen
March 15, 2022 07:00 - 33 minutes - 30.5 MBFor those of you who grew up not seeing yourself in books, or for those of you who did, but want to understand what that may be like for others - this next episode is one you don’t want to miss. Today, we’re so excited to speak with Abigail Hing Wen, the author of both the New York Times bestselling book Loveboat Taipei and her newest book, Loveboat Reunion, and hear all about her writing journey, why she writes YA books, more about the characters in Loveboat Reunion, and why it’s so impo...
157: All About Great Girlfriends, with Sybil Amuti
March 08, 2022 08:00 - 40 minutes - 37.4 MBToday is International Women’s Day, which is 8 days into Women’s History Month. So it’s no surprise that we are here with Sybil Amuti, the founder of The Great Girlfriends platform, to talk about friendships, community, and so much more, especially as it relates to women. This conversation was also a great reminder of two things: (1) we have women in our lives 365 days out of the year, not just 31; and (2) it’s important to include ALL women when we talk about women, as sometimes (and you...
156: Reclaiming Your Community
March 01, 2022 08:00 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MBCommunity. Gentrification. Generational wealth. Low status. Brain drain. When you read those terms, what comes to mind for you? If you know what those words mean, have you thought about how they play out in your own neighborhoods? Because even if you haven’t seen these dynamics at play yourself, they are definitely happening where you live. And we’re going to tell you why that matters - not only to you but to the future of your neighborhoods and communities, regardless of whether you...
155: When can we go back to America, with Susan H. Kamei
February 22, 2022 08:00 - 42 minutes - 39.1 MBIf you’re listening to this episode at the time of release, we’re three days past a momentous anniversary in United States history - and one that you may have never heard of. On February 19th, 1942, 80 years ago, President Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed Executive Order 9066 into law. This was the law that effectively incarcerated over 120,000 American citizens on US soil during World War II. Their offense? Being ethnically Japanese. Think about your own ethnic heritage. Where w...
154: Who We Are, with Emily and Sarah Kunstler
February 15, 2022 08:00 - 31 minutes - 28.5 MBThere are those moments when you watch something, or learn something, that changes how you see not only yourself, but our history, along with the future, completely differently. That’s how we felt about Who We Are, a new documentary featuring Jeffrey Robinson, produced by Robinson and our two guests: Emily and Sarah Kunstler. I feel fortunate to have first met both of these amazing women when Sarah and I were in law school together and have only this to say about the film: everyone should ...
153: A Kids Book About Racism, with Jelani Memory
February 08, 2022 08:00 - 44 minutes - 40.9 MBAt the time that A Kids Book About Racism was published, there was no other book like this. There was no other book written FOR kids talking directly about racism, let alone a book that was written by someone who looked like Misasha’s mixed-race kids. She still has that copy; they’ve read it as a family countless times, and the kids have read it themselves a ton since then. Since then, she’s added about ten more A Kids Book About books to her family library. Today we have the true hono...
152: Why We Need to See Midlife Women, with Valerie Albarda
February 01, 2022 08:00 - 42 minutes - 38.6 MBMiddle age. What comes to mind? Next question: When you think of a woman who’s aged somewhere between her early 40s and mid 60s, who do you picture? And if you’re not one of then, when you’re thinking about women in this age range, how do they show up in your daily life? Do they show up? And, what race is the woman you pictured? Depending on your answers, and your own stage of life, you’ll process the conversation with our next guest in different ways; something personal to you, or...
151: Change Begins with Breathing, with Kim Thai
January 25, 2022 08:00 - 45 minutes - 41.4 MBHave you ever felt like you don’t belong somewhere simply because of one or more of your identities? Being biracial, we’ve felt that way in various settings - sometimes all White crowds, sometimes Asian affinity groups. And sometimes in rooms full of men… anyway, you get the picture. And what we can say is that growing up that way leads to a lot of introspection, learning to tune into our own intuition to listen to the messages it’s trying to tell us, and working to stop prioritizing our b...
150: What to Do to Protect Voting Rights and Abolish the Filibuster
January 18, 2022 08:00 - 34 minutes - 32.1 MBWe had a different episode planned for this week, but in light of the fight that is going down in the Senate right now, we needed to re-release this episode on the filibuster, with a special introduction as to why we should all care about the Freedom to Vote Act and The John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, and encourage you to call your Senators to act on the filibuster.* * If you’re part of the Trump-backed forces of authoritarianism, you probably don’t care. But if you truly want Am...
149: On Colorism, with Mita Mallick
January 11, 2022 08:00 - 36 minutes - 33.6 MBIf you’ve been on LinkedIn recently, it’s likely that someone you know has liked something that our next guest has written - because her posts are just THAT GOOD. But it wasn’t just her LinkedIn activism that made us want to sit down with her today - it was some impactful articles that she wrote, including one for Cosmopolitan in 2019 and one for the Harvard Business Review in 2021, that made us excited to talk about something that we haven’t really touched on, on the podcast to date: colori...
148: Why We Need Critical Thinking Even More in 2022
January 04, 2022 08:00 - 21 minutes - 19.4 MBAkemashite Omedetou Gozaimasu! Or, in English, Happy New Year! We kick off this first episode of 2022 by reintroducing ourselves, so you know who we are and where we’re coming from as you listen to all the episodes to come (because you’re following our show on your favorite podcast app, right?). But we also did that so we can begin engaging a skill that is urgent to focus on this year - namely, critical thinking. In today’s episode, we dive into the booming economic statistics fr...
147: Year-End Recap (Cheers to 2022!)
December 28, 2021 08:00 - 26 minutes - 24.5 MBWell, we made it to the end of 2021. As we think back on this year, we’re sharing not only a little bit about the podcast and Dear White Women platform (along with our favorite episodes and guests), but also looking back at some key events of 2021, and what we did for self-care and community. Our hope for you is to listen, reflect, and think about what you’re going to do to make change going into 2022. Have questions, comments, or concerns? Email us at [email protected] What to li...
146: What Side of History Were You On in 2021?
December 21, 2021 08:00 - 33 minutes - 30.4 MBWe’re finally done with 2021… but if 2020-2021 taught us anything, it’s that this period of time we are living through will be examined in the history books. Our grandkids will be asking us what life was like during the global pandemic, where we were during the January 6 insurrection, and what we did to stand up against the racial and social injustices that were made so painfully clear during this time. So, as we re-cast this first episode of the year with you as a recap, consider what YO...
145: Tackling Anti-Racism with Empathy, with Syah B.
December 14, 2021 08:00 - 54 minutes - 50 MBOne thing that we’ve found to be true, from discussions around the book, to how to have uncomfortable conversations around the dinner or holiday tables, to sharing the stories that we are so lucky to be able to get to do on this podcast - it all comes back to how this work, the hard work of inclusion, anti-racism, and how to make lasting change, has to start first from within. We have to see each other as humans first, and find those commonalities so that we can then address our differences...
144: The Sisters Are Alright: Stereotypes Black Women Face, with Tamara Winfrey-Harris
December 07, 2021 08:00 - 27 minutes - 25.7 MBOne of the questions that often has come up around our recent publication of our book (leave us a review on Amazon!) is what it was like to write the book during the end of 2020. And one of the things that always sticks out to us is that the problems, the racism, the treatment of non White people in this country that we wrote about in great detail throughout the book, didn’t get fixed in 2020, or 2021. In fact, every single chapter that we wrote in the second and third sections of the book h...