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The Intensity of the Gospel with Larry Kutzler
July 29, 2022 13:00 - 19 minutes - 8.91 MBThe Gospel isn’t about church services with hymns, prayers, and sermons. We use these to make a case for the Gospel, and is the practice of most Christians around the world. There is nothing wrong in this practice, with one exception … this is not the Gospel. The Gospel of Jesus Christ demands His followers to be completely committed to the message of the Cross. Nothing is more important than what Jesus did for us, and there is no greater reward than what we are promised as a result of the ...
The Woundedness of Men, Part 2
July 22, 2022 13:00 - 24 minutes - 22.7 MBPastor Walt continues Thinking Out Loud on the Woundedness of Men. Real men are supposed to be strong, courageous, competent, and masterful. Real men are not supposed to show emotions, just keep it all bottled up inside. Real men don't eat quiche. Most men don’t have any male friends, they don’t know how to be a friend to other men. Most men don’t know how to engage other men … they just talk about sports or politics but nothing meaningful. How are men supposed to relate to one another? How ...
The Woundedness of Men, Part 1
July 15, 2022 13:00 - 25 minutes - 23.5 MBIn this episode, Pastor Walt shares that it's not a man's world anymore. Men seem to be less like men, and men have been emasculated for several decades. Pastor Walt asks why would a man want to be more effeminate? This is Satan’s strategy. His strategy is to confuse and counterfeit what God has created. Pastor Walt tells us that men are actually looking for clear direction. Men who are leaders in the church need to give men clear direction, and if men accept the direction, things will chang...
Accountability with Pastor Ross Tenneson
July 08, 2022 13:00 - 22 minutes - 10.5 MBIn recent years, we have seen many national Christian leaders fail, and this raises the question about accountability. Most ministries do not have any systems to help Christian leaders from failing morally, and yet it is critical to maintain some kind of accountability for those who lead the church. In this episode, Larry talks with Pastor Ross Tenneson about the church he serves and how they handle this issue among their leadership. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and...
Slothfulness with Riley Carpenter
July 01, 2022 13:00 - 24 minutes - 11.1 MBI've been doing some interviews with young pastors in training. In this episode, I have another one of these future leaders in the church. Riley Carpenter is in seminary now, training to be a pastor. We talk about one of the seven deadly sins … slothfulness. I think you will enjoy Riley’s history lesson, and his personal application on this theme. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Visit CitySites Urban Media Check out Larry’s books!
My Child’s Anxiety is Making Me Anxious!
June 24, 2022 14:52 - 53 minutes - 37.1 MBAnxiety, worry, and stress are normal emotions that we all experience, right? So why do we try so hard to make it stop when it surfaces in our children (of any age)? Today’s guest is a friend who knows firsthand about helping children with anxiety. Her name is Katie Wetsell, and she is the founder of Parent with Hope! She is a pediatric nurse, mom of four, and specializes in SPACE training to help parents support their children with anxiety. If you have wondered how to help your child overco...
Cancel Culture and Grace with Walt McFadden
June 17, 2022 13:00 - 23 minutes - 10.8 MBPastor Walt McFadden has been a pastor for over 30 years, and has been pastoring at Cityview Church in Minneapolis for the past 15 years. His focus is discipleship and the mentoring of the next generation. He is my guest in this episode, and he 'Thinks Out Loud' on the Cancel Culture and Grace. Pastor Walt says, in the church, we are often not forgiving people, we are often not accepting people, and we have a problem in our culture ... cancel culture. So, what's cancel culture? It's somewha...
Heart of the Father with Dr. David Nichols
June 10, 2022 13:00 - 22 minutes - 10.4 MBMy guest has been literally around the world bringing the healing message of Jesus Christ. Dr. David Nichols has been a college professor, author, and conference speaker. In 2000, he established a ministry of healing known as the Heart of the Father Ministries. David and Sherry Nichols have preached the Gospel to over one million people face-to-face with over 350,000 responding to receive Jesus as their Savior. Twice they have ministered to over 100,000 people at one place at one time in Sou...
Connecting Faith and Work with Gina Lokken
June 03, 2022 13:00 - 26 minutes - 13.5 MBGina Lokken, professional coach, speaker, author, and trainer specializing in strengths-based leadership and team building shares techniques she utilizes to help clients move past what they originally thought was possible. In this episode of the Connecting Faith and Work podcast, Gina talks about the importance of learning and growth in life. Coaching and mentoring provides a space to work with someone who believes in you, maybe even before you believe in yourself. You will leave this conver...
The Nature of Policing with Bill Breimhorst
May 27, 2022 13:00 - 20 minutes - 9.35 MBPolicing like so many areas of authority in our society have been under attack for some time, and it continues to be in the news. For example, the trial of Derek Chavin accused of killing George Floyd. Chavin was convicted of three counts of murder. Most people following this case felt justice was served in the jury’s decision to convict. I am not here to debate the verdict, it was decided by a jury and that settles it for me. However, I am concerned about the nature of policing our cities m...
Defy the Darkness with Larry Kutzler
May 20, 2022 13:00 - 17 minutes - 15.9 MBIt becomes easy for most of us to curse the darkness because it is so egregious. Yet, many times that is all we do … we complain about it. Darkness always behaves like its creator, Satan, and it always hides from the truth. Darkness loves to agitate, deceive, and more and more people refuse to push back because of the personal high cost of offending the cancel culture. In this episode, Larry talks about pushing back and defying the darkness. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kut...
Messin' with God's Treasures
May 13, 2022 13:00 - 31 minutes - 29 MBBelshazzar, the last king of Babylon learned a very swift and harsh lesson about messin' with God's treasures. You see, he took the Temple treasures his ancestor, Nebuchadnezzar, captured from the Jews' Jerusalem Temple in 586 BC and used them for a drinking party in honor of Babylon's gods. As he did so he mocked Israel's God. BIG MISTAKE! God's hand appeared and wrote out his judgment … death, Babylon's judgment, overthrown … which was carried out that very night. Here's the point. We can ...
You Reap What You Sow with Pastor Tom Parrish
May 06, 2022 13:00 - 18 minutes - 8.33 MBThere is a spiritual principle that tells us that we will reap what we sow. If we build our lives on the wrong things, we will end up with a life that is off course and away from God. Reaping what we sow is a principle that Pastor Tom Parrish, a prolific writer and teacher of God's Word, shares with us in this episode. This principle is applied to the church and the ramifications are simple. If we don’t sow spiritual seed into the lives who attend our churches, we then can’t expect a healthy...
Next Generation Preachers with Kenneth Granados
April 29, 2022 13:44 - 19 minutes - 9.07 MBWhat will the preachers be like in the next generation? Will they uphold the principles of faith of the previous generations? Have we mentored our youth in our congregations to reflect the Gospel? Have we developed the kind of disciples that will change the world for God? Well, I decided to ask a young man whose career path is to be a pastor in the near future. Kenneth Granados will soon graduate from the Christian University he has been attending with his goal of preparing for the ministry....
Mental Health with Dan Munson
April 22, 2022 13:00 - 26 minutes - 12 MBWe have become a medicated county and mental illness is a major problem for many. In this episode, Dan Munson, a pastor and counsellor with over 30 years experience in the mental health field, helps us understand what mental illness is and what mental health is. He explains that mental health is the holistic aspect of body, mind, and spirit all working together in balance. Dan helps us understand how Christ fits into our mental health, and how we can live life fully balanced in body, mind, a...
Hippies and Jesus with Steven Uggen
April 15, 2022 13:00 - 25 minutes - 23.7 MBWhen I became a Christian back in the early 1970’s there was a movement known as the Jesus People Revival, and these were primarily people coming out from the hippie movement of that era. Churches were not ready for the long hair and barefoot new converts coming to Christ. In time, churches either adapted to these new hippie believers or new churches sprang up to accommodate them. Today, we do better at accepting people into our churches, but I’m not sure we are challenging them to be the ki...
Red Letter Christians with Chris Heeb
April 08, 2022 13:00 - 26 minutes - 24 MBThere have been many movements in the church since I started my career in ministry. We’ve had the Prosperity Movement, the Jabez Prayer Movement, the Dominion Movement, the Seeker Sensitive Movement and on and on. Now, we have the Red Letter Christian Movement. This separates the Words of Jesus from the rest of Scripture and prioritizes them as more important than the rest of the Bible. Of course, we all know the Bible is the Word of God from Genesis to Revelation, so this movement seems out...
How to Discipline with Wisdom? with Chad Hayenga
April 01, 2022 13:00 - 57 minutes - 39.9 MBNo matter which parenting style your parents used, you undoubtedly have an immediate mental image when you hear the word “discipline.” Today’s guest is a mentor who coached us through several difficult “discipline” scenarios, and he has become a dear friend. His name is Chad Hayenga, and he is a Parent Coach extraordinaire! He is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Life Coach, and Parent Coach at Connected Families. He loves to help parents have “Ah-ha!” moments. If the thought of 30-s...
What are the Prophets Saying? with Shawn Morrison
March 25, 2022 13:00 - 24 minutes - 22.2 MBThere are many definitions to being a prophet in the modern church, and some even feel they no longer exist. I happen to believe that there are prophets today, and they are people who bring course correction to the church. In this episode, I sit down with Shawn Morrison, a seasoned pastor and Bible commentator, and talk about prophets. Listen in to our fascinating conversation! Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Visit CitySites Urban Media Check ou...
The Tension of the Gospel with Larry Kutzler
March 18, 2022 13:00 - 16 minutes - 14.7 MBThe Gospel message is easy to accept, and the benefits are eternal. Yet the Gospel has an intensity to it that requires a heart that is prone to discipleship. Discipleship is a lifestyle that focuses on following the dictates of Scripture. We love, we forgive, we worship God. We give Him first place in all things, and that requires we make the Word of God a priority in our lives. Listen in to this episode, as Larry gives a commentary on the tension that is part of the Gospel message. Challe...
Inspiring Your World ~Self Awareness
March 11, 2022 14:00 - 11 minutes - 10.1 MBSelf-awareness is critical, for not only reaching our highest potential but also for the way we connect with others. When we see ourselves clearly, we are more confident and more creative. We make sounder decisions, build stronger relationships, and communicate more effectively. Though most people believe they are self-aware, self-awareness is a truly rare quality. We see so many who are unteachable, who believe their understanding is the only understanding that matters.Leaders have to be te...
Your Nineveh with Chris Heeb
March 04, 2022 14:00 - 27 minutes - 25.3 MBThe story of Jonah is a story of redemption, where God interrupted him in mid-stream of his rebellion and redirected his life to preach redemption to Nineveh. Jesus told His audience in His day that the only sign they would receive would be of that of Jonah. What did He mean? Well, we look at the Book of Jonah. Chris Heeb joins Larry to discuss the importance of this Prophet named Jonah. Visit Chris Heeb Ministry Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. ...
Authenticity with Mark Johnson
February 25, 2022 14:00 - 24 minutes - 22.6 MBI love the word authenticity because it describes the meaning of honesty. The older I get, the more I love the people who we call the Salt of the Earth. These are people who are not pretentious, arrogant, or prideful. In this episode, my guest is Mark Johnson, a musician who uses his gift of music to tell the story of Jesus. Mark has traveled the world, being an example of Salt and Light wherever he has gone. Listen in and hear a man whose authenticity is real. Challenging the Culture with ...
A Faith and Work Journey with Bob Lambert
February 18, 2022 14:00 - 29 minutes - 14.9 MBBob Lambert, founder of successful start-up companies, author, and radio talk show host of Faith Marketplace, shares his journey of learning how to bring his faith into the marketplace, and guiding principles he has learned along the way. In this episode of the Connecting Faith and Work podcast, Bob highlights practical actions you can take in your life as you seek to connect faith and work. You will leave this conversation with Bob encouraged to work with excellence and show your faith to t...
Only Two Questions Matter with Tom Parrish
February 11, 2022 14:00 - 28 minutes - 26.4 MBLarry likes to bring ideas down to a level of simple clarification. Ideas can get so complex, and religious ideas can often get complicated. In this episode, Larry talks with Pastor Tom Parrish about an article he posted on his blog titled, 'Only Two Questions Matter.' Tom is a pastor, author, sought after speaker, and a respected Christian blogger. Tom is the kind of guy you go to when you need leadership direction. Join Larry and Tom as they talk about the only two questions that matter. V...
The Unseen Enemy with Chris Heeb
February 04, 2022 14:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MBThere are many enemies in America today, and some of them are seen as good causes. Most of these contemporary causes have an unseen base to them that many people do not see. This enemy has been around since the beginning of time, and is most successful when he does not get exposed. This unseen enemy has one secret that is never talked about … it is the fact that this enemy has been defeated. The only reason this enemy is effective is because he is allowed to lie and be believed. Join Larry a...
Discernment
January 28, 2022 14:00 - 25 minutes - 23.6 MBWhat is discernment? In this episode, Pastor Walt thinks out loud and helps us understand what discernment is. He explains that discernment is the ability to differentiate between what is of God and what is not of God. There are two sides … God and Good, Satan and Evil. Satan actually presents himself as a righteous entity, so how do we know when we’re on the right side of truth? You’ll find that Satan takes the truth of God and turns it into a lie. But, he clothes those lies with religious ...
Racism with Bill Green
January 21, 2022 13:48 - 28 minutes - 26.3 MBIt’s hard to find people today who will give commentary on race without a bias. It’s even harder to find commentary on race from a solidly Biblical worldview. Bill Green grew up in Memphis, not far from where Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr was killed. His family moved to Los Angles and lived in Watts where the riots took place in the late 60s. Bill has worked in higher education for the past few decades educating in the area of diversity. Join Larry and Bill in this episode … Bill has a message...
What is Theology? with Chris Heeb
January 14, 2022 14:00 - 27 minutes - 25.6 MBIn this episode, Larry shares that he is troubled with some theology that is being preached today. How can various ministers vary so widely on issues when the Holy Spirit is supposed to be the driving force behind the Word of God? How can ministers and teachers read the same Bible but come to different conclusions when they have the same Holy Spirit helping them interpret God’s Word? Theology, which is the study of God, can be misleading. Larry's guest is Chris Heeb, and they talk about wha...
Why It’s Better to Parent in Community
January 07, 2022 14:00 - 27 minutes - 12.6 MBEver feel alone or isolated as a parent? Between navigating your kids’ misbehavior in public, enduring other judgmental parents, and the demands of daily life, staying isolated can often feel easier than attempting social connection and events. Yet parenting without a solid community can bring feelings of anxiety, depression, and loneliness. Just like our kids, we as parents need to feel safety and connection in community too. That comes when we parent in community. What holds us back from p...
The Bottom Line with Larry Kutzler
December 31, 2021 14:00 - 15 minutes - 13.8 MBThe bottom line is an expression we often use to illustrate the end of a matter. The bottom line in business is the amount of profit or loss the company has experienced. In the church, the bottom line should be about how effective have we been in presenting the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Join Larry in this episode as he talks about ‘the bottom line’ for Christians and the church. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Visit CitySites Urban Media
Pushing Back the Darkness with Larry Kutzler
December 24, 2021 17:54 - 17 minutes - 7.97 MBThis episode deals with the idea that as believers we need to stand against the darkness in our day. It seems as if evil has engulfed our land … from our churches to the halls of Washington D.C. It also seems as if we are losing the battle on every front, but that is not the case from God’s Perspective. He is allowing the evil to permeate all areas of life to show us what happens when we abandon God and are given over to our own ways. Larry includes the historic piece by Paul Harvey, ‘If I ...
The Value of Emotions
December 17, 2021 14:00 - 25 minutes - 22.9 MBGod created us with complex emotions, and those emotions are a part of being human. In this episode, emotional coach Jen Mattson joins us to help us unlock the root of our emotions. She gives us practical solutions to become aware of and then release intense emotions. Jen's firsthand experience with how emotional and spiritual blocks impact the body and prevent individuals from living life to their fullest potential motivate her to share this information with others. Her holistic approach to...
Safety with Larry Kutzler
December 10, 2021 16:57 - 14 minutes - 13 MBThe optimum word we all use these days is “safety.” We use it in greeting each other by saying, “are you staying safe?” Or when we depart, we might say, “well, stay safe!” Of course, we want people to be safe from harm, from disease, and from anything that may put us at risk. But is that really a possibility … to be safe? Is life about safety? Can we really determine to live our lives in safety? In this episode, Larry talks about safety and that it can be a reality in our lives. Challengin...
Christians and Politics? with Trevor Rubenstein
December 03, 2021 14:00 - 29 minutes - 27 MBIn almost every political arena we hear the debate over and over about Christians being involved in politics. The debate has good arguments on both sides of the issue, but I have always formulated the opinion that we cannot abandon the policies and laws of the land and expect to keep the religious liberty that we have enjoyed up to now. Yet, there is an attitude most Christian conservatives have taken toward the left leaning politics because they consider most of them are orchestrating the p...
Connecting Faith and Work with Ron Johnson
November 26, 2021 14:00 - 28 minutes - 13 MBRon Johnson, professor, customer service professional, and author, unpacks his experience sharing his Christian faith with others and how God makes an impact on all areas of our life when we invite Him in. In this episode of the Connecting Faith and Work podcast, Ron shares his deep appreciation for education and the journey he took to find his place as a professor. You will leave this conversation with Ron encouraged to invite God into your life and work as you see how God responds to your ...
Over the Years with Nathan Werner
November 19, 2021 14:00 - 26 minutes - 24 MBWhen you have been a Christian for over 50 years, how do you see the Church based upon your longevity in the Church? Well, let's talk with a man who has had many years in the Church teaching and growing in Christ. In this episode, Nathan Werner talks with Larry about the 50 years he has had in following Jesus. Whether you're young or whether you're old, listen in for some wonderful insights that will benefit you on your Spiritual journey. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzl...
To Serve and Protect with Bill Breimhorst
November 12, 2021 14:00 - 28 minutes - 26.3 MBWhat's it like to be a cop? Much of our discussion about defunding the police is a radical idea that has no basis in reality. Yes, we have some issues in policing that have not been solved or addressed for decades, but the police are real people like you and me. Police are not our enemy … like so many in the media and in fringe groups advocating their abolition. In this episode, Larry talks with a retired cop who is now a pastor about what his views are in how we are handling the police in o...
Despair
November 05, 2021 13:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MBWe have an epidemic of despair in our culture. People from all walks of life and all ages are experiencing despair. Mental illness is rising in our country, and in some areas suicide rates are higher than homicide rates. Why? Why now? What's the change that people feel in our culture now? In this episode, Pastor Walt thinks out loud and helps us understand what's happening in our culture now that's causing so much despair. Walt McFadden, Pastor of Cityview Church, is a no-nonsense kind of g...
Are We Influencers? with Larry Kutzler
October 29, 2021 13:00 - 14 minutes - 13.7 MBJesus told us to go into all the world and preach the good news to everyone. In other words, go into the world and be an influence with what He has taught us. Are we an influence with what Jesus has taught us? How we influence others is a result of how we have been influenced. Has the Cross influenced us and changed our lives? Join Larry in this episode as he talks about the influence of the Cross of Jesus Christ. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Vi...
America in Prophecy with Chris Heeb
October 22, 2021 13:00 - 23 minutes - 21.2 MBOne of the first questions people ask when they are studying Bible Prophecy is, “Where is America in the last days?” Well, that's a good question, because Scripture tells us that in the last days all nations will stand against Israel. No nation stands with Israel … only the Lord stands with Israel. So, does America implode? Well, listen in to this episode with Larry and his guest Chris Heeb and find out! Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Visit CitySi...
Episode 4 Genesis 3:1-13 Attack and Betrayal
October 15, 2021 13:00 - 13 minutes - 12.7 MBThe Tempter spoke to TWO at the Tree, using plural pronouns (you-both). Both ate and died. But they responded in very different ways. She ate only after being deceived. But the man joined Satan in rebellion against God. God noticed! The Eden Podcast is where we think again about the Bible on women and men. We start with a correct understanding of what happened in the Garden of Eden back in the beginning. Bruce C. E. Fleming is founder of the Tru316 Project and a former Academic Dean and Pro...
Race Relations in America with Brian Walker Part 2
October 08, 2021 13:00 - 26 minutes - 24.7 MBIn this episode, Larry and his guest, Reverend Brian Walker, continue their discussion on Race Relations in America. What happens now? How do we rebuild our communities in the hope of true change? How do we respect life beginning in the womb? Listen in as Larry and Brian examine these critical issues facing America today Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed Guests. Visit CitySites Urban Media
Race Relations in American with Brian Walker Part 1
October 01, 2021 13:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBThe aftermath of George Floyd’s death has called for the systems of policing to change. There are lots of questions all of us have about law enforcement, about their training, about the law enforcement culture, and about the culture at large. In this episode, Larry's guest is Reverend Brian Walker, the Program Director of Pro Life-Action Ministries in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Pro-Life Action Ministries is a direct-action ministry focused on sidewalk counseling in front of abortion facilities....
Race Relations in America with Brian Walker Part 1
October 01, 2021 13:00 - 20 minutes - 18.8 MBThe aftermath of George Floyd’s death has called for the systems of policing to change. There are lots of questions all of us have about law enforcement, about their training, about the law enforcement culture, and about the culture at large. In this episode, Larry's guest is Reverend Brian Walker, the Program Director of Pro Life-Action Ministries in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Pro-Life Action Ministries is a direct-action ministry focused on sidewalk counseling in front of abortion facilities....
Females in Church Leadership with Jamie Morrison and Pam Braman
September 24, 2021 13:00 - 19 minutes - 18 MBOver the years, female Leaders in the church have tried to figure out just how they feel about themselves as leaders. Do female leaders feel pressure to act more masculine than feminine as they lead? Do female leaders get the respect equal to a male leader? What do people expect from a female leader? In this episode, Larry talks about the perspective of women as it relates to leadership in the Body of Christ. Some churches will not permit a woman to be a pastor or to hold a teaching position...
Traits of a Leader ~Credible Humility
September 17, 2021 12:58 - 9 minutes - 9.17 MBIn this episode, Shawn Morrison asks “Why would anybody follow you?” Leadership requires you to be credible and humble. Shawn helps you understand how to move forward to the direction of Credible Humility. Inspiring Your World with Shawn Morrison. Shawn Morrison is a pastor, and the Founder and Executive Director of Good in the Hood. Founded in 2003, Good in the Hood is dedicated to changing lives together with simple acts of kindness. Shawn is more than just a Leader. He is a Thought Provi...
Worldview with Chris Heeb
September 10, 2021 13:00 - 23 minutes - 21.7 MBAmerica is feeling the effects of a world full of pandemics, riots, and financial upheaval. It is a trying time for most of us. Much of what we feel is the uncertainty of everything around us. We are accustomed to knowing and trusting in our institutions to keep us safe, and to give us the right information to make informed decisions. All of that is up for grabs today. How we approach these troubling times depends on how we think the world works. Often this is called a worldview which is a ...
Manhood with Walt McFadden
September 03, 2021 13:00 - 26 minutes - 24.6 MBThis episode discusses the assault on men that our culture has perpetrated. So many boys grow up in fatherless homes and struggle with the understanding of manhood. Marriages end in divorce because men are cheating on their wives, or do not take responsibility as a leader in the home. Pastor Walt McFadden discusses what men are facing today, and how men can escape the trap of defining manhood by standards that are not Godly. Challenging the Culture with Truth with Larry Kutzler and Esteemed...
The Prophet and The Prostitute
August 27, 2021 13:00 - 19 minutes - 18.1 MBThere are two prominent prostitutes in the Bible. Prostitutes? Say, what? There are many risqué Stories in the Bible, and the Story of Israel shows that She was the most prominent prostitute. Israel was unfaithful to God. In this episode, Chris Heeb helps us understand that we are the Bride of Christ, and we will suffer the consequences if we break the marriage vows. Chris explains that the Wall Street statue is a large, black bull. This is our greed god, and we follow our greed god the same...