Circle Up & Get REAL Podcast
225 episodes - English - Latest episode: 7 days ago -When you're with your peeps, you invite them to Circle Up. And when like-minded and like-hearted others come together, they hold space for each other to Get REAL: Radical, Energized, Authentic, & Learning-focused.
It's time to Circle Up & Get REAL.
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Getting REAL About Keepin' It REAL With Jodee
July 15, 2024 17:55 - 28 minutes - 22.7 MBIt's so easy to make a statement about how things are and then begin to believe that that's how things are. All the time. In every case. And many times that initial statement isn't even one I made from my own thought process. It might be something I heard on TikTok or from my parent or teacher or someone who certainly knows better than I could. What does it mean to keep it REAL? And how do any of us do that? Here is the AI list I mention in this episode about how to keep it...
Getting REAL About Applying Conscious Leadership With Jodee
July 08, 2024 19:09 - 26 minutes - 22.4 MBCall me crazy. Call me soft. Call me touchy-feely. Call me toxically positive. It's OK. I've been called all of those before. For me, leadership is (almost) all about character. The policies and the mission and the purpose for the organization is very separate (TO ME) from the character of the leadership. It's the distinction between what your organization DOES and who its leaders are BEING when they are doing the doing. To me, that's what it means to be CONSCIOUS (open, curious, committed...
Getting REAL About Changing the Way You Look at Things with Jodee
June 27, 2024 11:01 - 19 minutes - 15.9 MBWayne Dyer had a great quote I'll never forget: When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. Today I'm pondering that thought while also applying some of what I'm learning from two clients who are investing in their people by having me facilitate dialogues without a guaranteed result. What?? Really?? I share information about my REAL Me: Intensive course which we're halfway through in this current cohort. If you're looking for ways to connect on a deeper ...
Getting REAL About North Dakota and SPARKS of Inspiration with Carla Christofferson
June 20, 2024 14:19 - 1 hour - 48.2 MBToday's episode was a blast! I had a conversation with LA Attorney, and former co-owner of the LA Sparks of the WNBA Carla Christofferson. Carla was born and raised in North Dakota, graduating from high school with 13 classmates in Tolna. She went on to UND Williston where she played basketball, and went on to UND. In the meantime, she was also crowned Miss North Dakota, and went on to Yale Law School, eventually joining the law firm O'Melveny & Myers in Los Angeles. In this conversation...
Getting REAL About Giving Up Old Mindsets with Jodee
June 17, 2024 22:33 - 23 minutes - 18.6 MBRecently I've had some "random" thoughts that have led to some pretty incredible "chance" meetings and encounters. Are these just lucky meetings? Coincidences? Or is there something else going on? In today's episode I wonder about what happens when we actually pay attention. What are we just not noticing because we're stuck in the way we think things "should" be? I mention the books "Working With the Law" by Raymond Holliwell and "Spiral Dynamics in Action" by Beck, et.al. If you'd l...
Getting REAL About Soft Skills With Jodee
June 07, 2024 18:48 - 22 minutes - 18.4 MBIn today's stream-of-consciousness episode I refer to several books: The Soft Edge by Rich Karlgaard Excellence Now: Extreme Humanism by Tom Peters The Mystic Jesus by Marianne Williamson The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Dethmer, Chapman & Klemp Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill In Peters' book he says that "Hard (numbers/plans/org charts) is soft: Plans are often fantasties; organizational charts have little to do with the way the organizatoin actually works; and...
Getting REAL About Love and DEI With Chloe Valdary
May 29, 2024 19:25 - 43 minutes - 28.9 MBChloe Valdary, founder of the Theory of Enchantment, has accomplished a lot in her relatively short life. She created her platform as a response to her research into international conflicts, when she noticed there was no framework using love to address those types of situations. She wanted to learn how to teach people to love the human behind the persona, and studied pop culture to learn a way to do that. Through stories about overcoming challenges, those brands show two important things...
Getting REAL About the MasterMind Concept with the POWER Five
May 23, 2024 19:50 - 43 minutes - 32.9 MBEvery Wednesday morning for the past five years I've gotten together - virtually - with this group of humans. We've shared laughs and tears; we've been through deaths and family challenges and lots of victories together. This group proves that trouble shared is trouble halved, and joy shared is joy multiplied. Listen in as Dody Kettler from Minneapolis, Theresa Halvorson from Fargo, Ed LeQuire from Rochester, MN and David Boswell from Austin, TX join me for this peek behind the curtain i...
Getting REAL About Commitment With Jodee
May 16, 2024 14:23 - 26 minutes - 22 MBToday's episode continues my exploration of the book "The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership." I explore the concept of commitment, and also share the Change Formula from this book: (V x D) + FS > R = C (Vision x Dissatisfaction) + First Steps > Resistance = Change If we aren't compelled enough to actually overcome our resistance to change, there's no reason to beat ourselves up about it. We might simply be interested (we'll do what it takes when it's easy), but not committed (we'l...
Getting REAL About Waking Up to Consciousness with Jodee
May 10, 2024 19:49 - 26 minutes - 23 MBIf you look at your life from an objective perspective, can you see how you learned things? Were the lessons that seemed most important to you ones you learned in a formal class? Or did they just kind of show up for you in a "random" way? Today I share some ahas I've had recently after a couple of enlightening conversations with friends. I touch on the topic of money, playing an infinite game, agreements we've made about "rules." What causes you to wake up to new awarenesses?...
Getting REAL About Leadership With Jodee (and Friends)
May 02, 2024 15:43 - 23 minutes - 19.5 MBToday I talk about Leadership - is it more about the LEADER or the SHIP? I have help from several friends who engaged in the dialogue through Facebook chat. We covered topics like consciousness, ego, intention, love & fear, and dialogue, and proved that energy really is non-geographic: we can FEEL things even virtually. I also mentioned the Enlightened Leadership Lab, which is a group I co-facilitate with Chris Angell on Mondays. We also have a weekly podcast, where we debrief the wee...
Getting REAL About Creativity and Collaboration with Jodee
April 26, 2024 14:31 - 31 minutes - 25.8 MBSince January of this year I've been working with a client and our focus is building the Culture, Communication, and Leadership within their organization as they work to become an employer of choice. They are focusing on not only recruiting employees but attracting them, which is a subtle but important shift. Our Q2 focus is on Communication to Appreciate and Recognize. We started by contemplating the distinction between the Golden Rule and the Platinum Rule as it relates to communica...
Getting REAL About Self Awareness With Jodee
April 17, 2024 17:31 - 25 minutes - 20.4 MBIn today's episode I talk a bit about my own self-awareness journey. Self-awareness is such an interesting journey. Once you begin to awaken, it's difficult - if not impossible - to go back to the way you used to see things. You can become aware of things in a new light, and you can observe out of judgment or out of compassion ... or maybe just out of curiosity. What are you beginning to notice that you didn't notice before? Was it there all the time and you just didn't ha...
Getting REAL About Fear With Jodee
April 11, 2024 19:19 - 25 minutes - 20.1 MBIn today's episode I dig into fear, which, really, is just the opposite of love. It's what takes us over when our egos get involved. I cite few resources today, mostly Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill, but also the Landmark Forum (www.landmarkworldwide.com) and A New Earth by Eckhart Tolle. Fear is either authentic: it awakens you to something that threatens your physical survival, or it's inauthentic: everything else. I talk about the Fear of Poverty from Think and Grow Rich, and...
Getting REAL About Owning Your Curiosity with Jodee
April 04, 2024 14:34 - 21 minutes - 18.1 MBBack in 2016 I fulfilled one of my bucket list items: To speak on a TEDx stage. And, I also fulfilled a not-so-great "goal": to see if I could recover from a very public mess-up. I bombed my only attempt at a TEDx talk (I literally forgot what I was going to say). I've learned a lot since then, but have never watched the video. I've never ever revisited the message I wanted to convey, until I shared this story with my REAL EA group yesterday. They challenged me to share the story, and sh...
Getting REAL About Wellness With Stefanie Meyer
March 26, 2024 16:32 - 43 minutes - 31.3 MBWellness is so much more than just physical. Today's guest, Dr. Stefanie Meyer, is an expert in health: body, mind, spirit. She is committed to assisting people in being well. That's very different than treating the symptoms of illness. She wants to be able to support people on the "well" end of the spectrum, rather than the "ill" end. Throughout her journey, Stefanie has been uncovering what her passion "isn't," as she's gotten clearer on what her passion actually "is." In this con...
Getting REAL About Your Calling With Jodee
March 19, 2024 18:01 - 32 minutes - 26.7 MBSelf-awareness might be the single greatest advantage leaders will have and can develop in order to experience the world the way they truly desire to experience it. What are you doing to grow your own awareness? In this episode I talk about the concept of listening to your calling, which I define as "a strong inner pull or sense of purpose that drives a person to pursue activities, work, or causes that align with their values, passions, and talents, and that bring them a deep se...
Getting REAL About Life Transformation With Jerry Nabb
March 07, 2024 19:04 - 51 minutes - 33.7 MBToday's conversation is with Jerry Nabb, a brand new friend I've been following on Facebook for the past year or so. Jerry is a personal and business coach who has been on a long and purposeful journey. In this conversation, he shares parts of that journey and also the wisdom he's been accessing his entire life. Jerry reminded me that if I can just open my eyes, ears and heart to possibilities, new friends, connections and conversations are there just waiting to be invited and accepted. ...
Getting REAL About Being KOOL With Jodee
March 05, 2024 13:38 - 26 minutes - 21.8 MBBack in my Keller Williams days now a decade ago, I learned an acronym from a very wise teacher named Dick Dillingham. The acronym was what we as presenters and trainers and coaches would benefit from becoming. The acronym was KOOL: Keen Observer Of Life. I've never forgotten that, and I've been practicing ever since. In today's episode I share some of my ponderings as I do my best to remain KOOL. If you'd like more info about some of the events I've got coming up, check o...
Getting REAL About Self Love With Jodee
February 14, 2024 16:44 - 23 minutes - 18.1 MBThis episode was recorded on Valentines Day, a day typically experienced by those in relationships. But what if you spend some time, whether you are in a relationship or unaccompanied, caring for and loving YOU today (and every day)? I share some insights and some distinctions that might help you take care of YOU. Here is a link for our Chill Out experience this year: https://chillout2024.eventbrite.com.
Getting REAL About Distinctions with Jodee
February 08, 2024 15:52 - 21 minutes - 15.2 MBIn today's episode, I share some distinctions I'm becoming acutely aware of in my everyday life, along with an aha I had as I'm doing some pondering this past week. The distinctions are between Interest and Commitment, and also between doing things Solo or doing them Together. My aha had to do with my core desire for connection. Thanks to those who watched live as I was recording! If you're interested in learning more about Chill Out, go to https://chillout2024.eventbrite.com.
Getting REAL About Living Your Purpose with Michael Ivanov
January 31, 2024 14:33 - 41 minutes - 26.3 MBToday's conversation is with author and speaker Michael Ivanov whose newest book "This Is Why I'm Here" is his first non-fiction work explaining what's he's learned - and continues to learn - about living his life on purpose. As a child, Michael immigrated with his parents and seven siblings to the United States just before the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War. Michael is the grandson of a ‘Siege of Leningrad’ and Dachau camp survivor. His talent for story-telling...
Getting REAL About Inviting with Jodee
January 25, 2024 21:20 - 15 minutes - 12.3 MBInviting someone to something and having them accept the invitation are two different things. Let's talk about attachment and commitment, shall we? Today I mention Dick Richards and his book "Is Your Genius At Work?" where I discovered the name for my genius: Inviting Dialogue. If you want more information about Chill Out, the event I talk about in this conversation, go to https://chillout2024.eventbrite.com.
Getting REAL About Lifelong Learning With Nan Gesche
January 18, 2024 14:33 - 57 minutes - 37.4 MBWhat fun it was to connect with a gradeschool classmate in this episode! Nan Gesche moved away when she was in 6th grade, but we kept up with each others' lives and careers and it was so fun to connect with her on purpose! Both Nan and I were raised by mothers who were educators, so it's no surprise this conversation had a lot to do with lifelong learning. Nan is an energetic speaker, educator, and coach who uses experience, insight, and some sturdy research, all sprinkled with a little ...
Getting REAL About Intention with Jodee
January 11, 2024 17:22 - 23 minutes - 18.5 MBToday's episode was a Facebook Live conversation I had with five others who added their comments and suggestions around the topic of Intention as explained by Wayne Dyer in his book The Power of Intention: Learning to Co-create Your World Your Way. Dr. Dyer's definition is this: "Intention is a force in the universe that allows the act of creation to take place." How different would the world be if we stopped forcing things to happen and got into the practice of allowing them to happen? ...
Getting REAL About Conscious Leadership With Jodee
January 04, 2024 15:50 - 18 minutes - 14.9 MBToday I am my own guest and I'm talking about Conscious Leadership. I mention a lot of resources today ... here's a list of those: Enlightened Leadership Lab (https://enlightenedleadershiplab.com) Becoming a Conscious Leader by Gina Hayden, The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership by Dethmer, Chapman & Klemp, and I might have alluded to Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill.
Getting REAL About Heart-Led Leadership With Tommy Spaulding
December 26, 2023 18:43 - 42 minutes - 28.2 MBToday's guest is Tommy Spaulding, the founder and president of Tommy Spaulding Companies, a leadership development, speaking, training, and teambuilding organization based in Denver. He is also a New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and USA Today best-selling author of three books: It's Not Just Who You Know, The Heart-Led Leader, and The Gift of Influence. Every day we humans get to choose whether we will be Leaders, Followers, or Critics. And, if we choose to be Leaders, there are two ty...
Getting REAL About Your Genius With Dick Richards
December 14, 2023 14:45 - 49 minutes - 29.4 MBDick Richards is a man of many talents. I first met him nearly 20 years ago through the (then) new world of blogging, and I eventually met him in person at an event he facilitated in Minneapolis and I was intrigued with his process called Naming Your Genius. I eventually brought Dick to Fargo to facilitate Genius workshops as part of an event called the Bigger Small Talk Summit, which I hosted for 3 subsequent years somewhere around 2008. His 30-year career in deep energy work as it rela...
Getting REAL About Disrupting Unconscious Patterns With Nova Wightman
December 07, 2023 14:58 - 53 minutes - 37.2 MBTough times tend to be painful ... but they open us up to take a new look at our lives. Today's guest is Nova Wightman, author of the book "Awake and Aligned." Nova is also the owner and operator of Go Within Life Coaching, a certified Co-Active Life Coach (CPCC), a CwG Coach (Conversations with God) on Neale Donald Walsch’s team, an NLP Practitioner, speaker, author and workshop facilitator, a Reiki practitioner, and is trained in and attuned to the Akashic Records. In this conversatio...
Getting REAL About Coincidences With April Mata
November 30, 2023 12:00 - 20 minutes - 14.1 MBThere was every reason to believe that today's interview wasn't going to happen. Technology issues for both of us might have prevented us from recording. But where there is a will, there is a way, and higher conversations just need to be born into the world. Today I chat with Transformation Coach April Mata, who helps women transition from their corporate careers into their dream businesses by overcoming financial blocks and fear of making the big leap. There is so much irony in today's ...
Getting REAL And Going Deep With Nicole Holland
November 23, 2023 12:00 - 55 minutes - 37.8 MBNicole Holland helps people move through their greatest fears, transcend doubt, and live their most authentic, joy filled lives. For the past four decades she has counseled countless individuals of all ages and walks of life through their darkest days with unwavering love and acceptance. Nicole compassionately supports growth without judgment or condemnation. You don’t have to face your demons alone — even if the one you're most afraid of is yourself. During this conversation we go deep - ...
Getting REAL About R&R WIth Denise Gaber
November 16, 2023 12:00 - 52 minutes - 37.1 MBR& R – Rest and Relaxation AND Rock & Roll – both have vibrational energy. How do each of those R’s cause you to FEEL? Today’s guest Denise Gaber shares her journey with both R&R platforms. Denise is a Resilience Coach, a Sound Healer, and a Musician, who shares her wisdom and her coaching to help others discover their soul’s blueprint and passion. Listen in to this conversation where we talk about how vibrational energy – in whatever form – will help us with any identity crises we enc...
Getting REAL About Measuring Intangibles with Coby Milne
November 09, 2023 12:00 - 51 minutes - 36.2 MBW. Coby Milne is the co-founder of Roman 3, a company named for the play on the Roman numeral 3. Their approach, like their name, draws on the process of INSPIRING change, fostering INNOVATION, and managing IMPLEMENTATION. I "met" Coby through a random LinkedIn invitation, and we immediately hit it off. So much so that we are partnering to help a client measure results from intangibles like culture and leadership. Listen in as Coby explains how he is using his project management skills ...
Getting REAL About Values and Possibilities with Joey Torkildson
November 02, 2023 17:00 - 51 minutes - 34.4 MBToday's podcast interview was so much fun! Joey Torkildson and I have been friends for several years, even though we've never met in person. Our relationship is a perfect example of how energy is non-geographic and how allowing conversations to emerge uncovers synchronicities and possibilities we might not otherwise recognize. Joey is the owner and co-founder of Voila, a real estate company in the Twin Cities. Joey and his team are disrupting the real estate industry by building their co...
Getting REAL About Podcasting with Jonah Lantto
October 26, 2023 11:00 - 46 minutes - 31.3 MBDespite what many people might believe, it is possible to create a career doing something you love. Today's guest, Jonah Lantto, is living that belief as he's making a career of podcasting. Jonah is the co-founder, host, and producer of the Midwest Murder Podcast, and has come to this career through discovering what he loved about the jobs he had before becoming an entrepreneur and making a living from podcasting. Listen in and hear how confidence (not arrogance), humility, and possibi...
Getting REAL About Holistic Healing with Katie Gross
October 19, 2023 13:00 - 44 minutes - 33.6 MBKatie Gross considers herself a "chaser of mystical and spiritual experiences" and she does that in her profession as a spiritual health nurse and cannabis nurse navigator. As a patient and a nurse, she has witnessed the gaps in the current “healthcare” model, so she decided to do something about it. Her organization is called Your Higher Path Healing, and during this conversation we talked about many things including letting go of trauma by reconnecting the spirit to the body. The many,...
Getting REAL About Spiritual Connections with Dean McMurray
October 12, 2023 11:00 - 1 hour - 39.9 MBDean McMurray is known as the Military Medium because of his accidental ability to connect with people who have crossed over. Dean is an internationally acclaimed psychic, medium, healer, dowser and ordained minister who lives in my hometown of Fargo, North Dakota. Dean always considered himself the "king of the logicians," as his military training would have him believe that if you can't shoot it, eat it, drive it, or do a form on it, it couldn't possibly be real. Imagine his shock ...
Getting REAL About Post Traumatic Stress With Scott Geiselhart
October 04, 2023 18:39 - 45 minutes - 32.3 MBMany people see Post Traumatic Stress as a disorder mostly experienced by combat veterans. But today's guest, Scott Geiselhart, sheds new light on this subject from his perspective as a volunteer firefighter. Scott spent more than 20 years as a small-town fire fighter, and didn't realize the toll his experiences rescuing and saving - and sometimes losing - people he actually knew would take on him. In this interview, Scott shares his story that took him down a very dark path until he dis...
Getting REAL About All The Feels With Jon Walters
September 28, 2023 18:46 - 1 hour - 51.8 MBJon Walters used a new term (to me) during this conversation: The Reality of Fatality. We talked about a lot of things, not the least of which included Jon's recent belief that, at 34 years old, he truly believed he had peaked, and his best days were behind him. Through a series of twists and turns, both personally and professionally, Jon shares his story, including the emotions and feelings that, as a man, he was trained and conditioned not only not to express, but also not to feel. ...
Getting REAL About Getting Real With Cody Pettengill
September 21, 2023 14:38 - 40 minutes - 29.1 MBCody Pettengill is a wedding videographer who knows what it means to be real. In fact, it's his primary value. So as a person whose career is set to help couples capture one of the most significant days in their lives, he wants to make sure his clients get a product that will take them back to that day over and over. Cody is creative at heart, and whether he is making music, painting a canvas, or shooting and editing a video, he's using what he's learned from his life experience to be auth...
Getting REAL About Conscious Parenting With Dan Tinquist
September 11, 2023 18:53 - 46 minutes - 31.3 MBDan Tinquist is the founder of ConfiDAD, a coaching and training platform that supports parents in seeing, hearing, and really knowing their children. In this interview, Dan and I talk about his journey with a career he loved, which took him away from his wife and four sons. When he realized that there just might be a way to combine those loves, he created ConfiDAD to help parents build deeper and more joyous bonds with their kids. ConfiDAD offers a monthly masterclass, a course called M...
Getting REAL About Patent & Business Law with Tom Kading
August 29, 2023 14:33 - 30 minutes - 21.1 MBWhoever said that law was stuffy and scary never met Tom Kading. Tom is the founder of Fargo Patent & Business Law, and he is working to change the perspective of his field, professionally and culturally. Tom's pre-law studies were in engineering, and he enjoys putting the pieces of an idea or a concept together, which serves him very well as a business and patent attorney. In this interview, you will learn how Tom's mission and vision are attracting employees, partners, and clients who ...
Getting REAL About Getting REAL with Melissa Simanek
August 21, 2023 17:11 - 40 minutes - 27.3 MBWhen you are willing to do what it takes to achieve or experience your true desires, even when the emotion you said it in wears off, you're committed to that future. In this conversation, Melissa Simanek and I talk about how her life has shifted since she made that decision. She shows that once you make a decision, the universe conspires on your behalf. A life of your own design proves that first you make the decision, and then the decision makes you. It's not what happens to you, it's who...
Getting REAL About Vibrational Energy with Jodee
August 09, 2023 15:23 - 28 minutes - 34.2 MBThe Beach Boys were on to something all those years ago with their beachy summertime music. But there's more to it than a great beat. What are we doing to keep our vibe high? Do we even know what that means? Today I talk about a lot of resources including Spiral Dynamics (I listened to the audio version of Spiral Dynamics Integral, but you can find lots of info about this concept in various locations), Esther and Jerry Hicks's book "Ask and It Is Given," David Hawkins book "Powe...
Getting REAL About Improv with Jodee
July 28, 2023 14:56 - 29 minutes - 27.9 MBToday I'm going LIVE without an agenda ... kinda like tightrope walking without a net. I took some prompts from Rick Rubin's book "The Creative Act," but didn't need too much help when friends showed up and added their comments. Thank you to Kelly, Andrea, Dawn, & Melissa for the conversation! If you'd like more information about the REAL Me course, head over to https://getrealcircle.com and take a look. What you are seeking is also seeking you!
Getting REAL About Identity and Spiritual Inquiry with Matthew Cooksey
July 17, 2023 16:25 - 59 minutes - 40.1 MBToday's conversation was a true example of what can happen when two people who don't even know each other very well get together and allow the Master Mind to be present. Matthew Cooksey is a therapist, coach, truth seeker, and speaker who is on a mission to help people embrace their human-mess - so we can all lead our best lives. He reached out to me after hearing my podcast interview with Ian Williams, and we created the space for this very spontaneous and unscripted conversation where ...
Getting REAL About Creating and Allowing With Anthony Hamilton
July 10, 2023 19:52 - 51 minutes - 36.3 MBToday's episode is kind of an accidental recording. Anthony reached out and wanted to connect, but I wasn't sure it was going to be a podcast episode, so I was recording in my car. But I'm glad I did! Anthony Hamilton is the author of Mind, Time & Power, and was a guest on this pocast a few episodes ago. In this conversation he shares his recent experience on a trip to England where he experienced yet again, the power of synchronicities. You'll hear how Anthony actually created, in his ...
Getting REAL About Authentic Business with Josh Hoper
July 05, 2023 11:00 - 50 minutes - 34.8 MBJosh Hoper is truly a renaissance man. He started his career in finance and technology, and his own personal evolution has led him into an entrepreneurial venture called Torchlight AE where he works with clients as a coach, consultant, and facilitator to help them first identify their own light and then use it to light the way for their own customers and associates. When humans can begin to tap into their own authenticity, their businesses will follow suit. In this conversation Josh a...
Getting REAL About Identity Shifts with Andrea Hensrud
June 26, 2023 18:36 - 40 minutes - 29.7 MBAndrea Hensrud is a licensed occupational therapist & certified health and life coach who is on fire to change the way the world experiences infertility. While that process really impacted Andrea's identity in what might be called a negative way, during this conversation, we unpack what it means to shift from an old belief system to one that, while different, doesn't have to be negative. Andrea hosts a podcast called Diagnosis: Infertility, where she hosts conversations about infertility, ...
Getting REAL About Social Media with Jenn and Kaitlin
June 13, 2023 03:01 - 35 minutes - 25 MBWe all know what social media is, right? It's for showing your cat photos and your vacation videos and letting people know what you had for lunch. Yes ... AND ... there is a lot more to learn and to implement if we want to get social media to work for us as we build our businesses. Today in studio I chatted with social media expert Kaitlin Morales and her client, real estate professional Jenn Bergen. We unpacked a lot of reasons social media is crucial to building a relationship, not jus...