Latest Dalepeterson Podcast Episodes
OTCEP Panel - Secure PLC Coding Practices
Unsolicited Response - June 21, 2023 12:20 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsThis episode is a replay of a lively panel from the Cyber Security Agency of Singapore's OT Cybersecurity Expert Panel (OTCEP) last year. It begins with a great introduction to the Top 20 Secure PLC Coding Practices by Sarah Fluchs. At the 35 minute mark the panel discussion begins. There was a ...
Metrics: How Effective Is A Security Control?
Unsolicited Response - May 17, 2023 17:41 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsHow much does a security control reduce cyber risk? What control or mix of controls provides the most efficient cyber risk reduction? Tough questions that a team of researchers at INL and Sandia tried to answer in a project. Two of the researchers, Jay Johnson of Sandia and Jake Gentle of INL,...
S4x23 Closing Panel
Unsolicited Response - May 10, 2023 13:00 - 40 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsRalph Langner, Megan Samford and Zach Tudor join Dale Peterson on the S4 Main Stage to close out S4x23. This Closing Panel is always an attendee favorite as none of these four are afraid to take a strong and even unconventional stance on at OT security topic or issue.
Puesh Kumar, Director of CESER at US Dept of Energy
Unsolicited Response - May 03, 2023 13:13 - 32 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson interview CESER Director Puesh Kumar on the S4x23 Main Stage. We discuss a number of CESER programs how they are measuring success, what has not worked, why they are doing some things industry is already doing and more. 5:30 Where is the CESER CRISP program (detection and informa...
Chris Blask: Cybersecurity Pioneer and Idea Man
Unsolicited Response - April 26, 2023 12:15 - 46 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsChris Blask has a long career bringing new ideas to reality. He currently is Vice President of Strategy at Cybeats, who has a SBOM Studio product. Cybeats is different in that SBOM Studio does not create SBOMs. This requires SBOMs to be available from somewhere, and Dale & Chris spend a lot of...
Edgard from Nozomi (Part 2)
Unsolicited Response - April 19, 2023 12:30 - 45 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsThe August 2021 Unsolicited Response episode with Edgard Capdevielle, CEO of Nozomi Networks, was a fan favorite. So Dale invited Edgard back, like the first time it was a wide ranging and fun conversation. His budget analogy of OT security and a new child in the family was Dale's favorite part....
Interview with Gene Spafford
Unsolicited Response - April 12, 2023 12:30 - 30 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson interviews cybersecurity legend Gene Spafford on the S4x23 Main Stage. Some of what they cover is: how to deal with securing legacy systems the incredibly productive 3 years of firsts including host IDS, network IDS, honeypot, network vulnerability scanner, and more. What led to...
ICS Security: Q1 in Review
Unsolicited Response - April 05, 2023 19:48 - 58 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsMarty Edwards joins Dale Peterson to discuss the big stories of the first quarter of 2023. The US National Cybersecurity Strategy ISA / ISASecure starting an OT Site Assessment Certification Ransomware Affecting Operations (indirectly) Marty and Dale then give their win and fail for Q1 and...
The OT SBOM Market
Unsolicited Response - March 29, 2023 12:52 - 50 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson talks with Matt Wyckhouse, Founder and CEO, of Finite State about where the SBOM products and market is today and where it will go in the future. This discussion was informed by the SBOM Challenge at S4x23. Who is the primary buyer of SBOM products and services today? (Hint: Matt ...
Puesh Kumar - Director of Dept of Energy's CESER
Unsolicited Response - March 22, 2023 12:55 - 32 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson interviewed Puesh Kumar on the S4x23 Main Stage. Puesh is the Director of the US Dept of Energy's Cybersecurity, Energy Security, & Emergency Response (CESER). The lead US Government OT cybersecurity agency in the energy sector. After Puesh gives a 3 minute overview on CESER, the...
Book Interview: Industrial Cybersecurity with Steve Mustard
Unsolicited Response - March 15, 2023 13:36 - 42 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsSteve Mustard took his 30 years of experience and wrote Industrial Cybersecurity: Case Studies and Best Practices, published by ISA. After talking about who the book is for and the writing process, Dale and Steve dig into the details. Given Steve's longtime involvement and leadership with IS...
Cyber Persistence Theory
Unsolicited Response - March 07, 2023 13:58 - 31 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale's interview with Michael Fischerkeller, co-author of the bood Cyber Persistence Theory. The first half of the interview digs into Cyber Persistence Theory. Why Michael believes cyber is a new and third strategic environment (in addition to conventional and nuclear) What is meant by cyber...
OT Managed Security Services - 1898 & Co.
Unsolicited Response - March 01, 2023 13:05 - 38 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsMatt Morris and Mark Mattei of 1898 & Co. joined Dale to talk OT Managed Security Services as 1898 recently introduced an OT Managed Threat Protection and Response service. The discussion included: what they are monitoring in the OT environment the OT MSP competitive landscape (OT detection v...
Interview with Bill Fehrman of Berkshire Hathaway Energy
Unsolicited Response - February 23, 2023 13:17 - 30 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsBill Fehrman is the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway Energy, co-chair of the Electricity Subsector Coordinating Council, and chair of the E-ISAC. The major topics Dale and Bill discuss include: The US Government / Electric Sector information sharing program around detection information and threat in...
ICS Village Talks About ICS CTF At S4x23
Unsolicited Response - January 18, 2023 12:45 - 32 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsTom VanNorman and Don Weber join Dale to describe the ICS Capture The Flag competition they will be running at S4x23, Feb 13 - 16 in Miami South Beach. S4x23 web site
Women In ICS Security
Unsolicited Response - January 11, 2023 13:02 - 31 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDonna Cusimano, Kim Legelis, and Saltanat Mashirov join Dale Peterson to talk about the Women In ICS Security Program at S4x23, Feb 13-16 in Miami South Beach. (see s4xevents.com/women). These are three of a team of volunteers that have put together important career, education, and networking ...
Ralph Langner on OT Asset Management
Unsolicited Response - December 21, 2022 13:31 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsRalph Langner joins Dale on the Unsolicited Response Show to discuss Asset Management. They begin with the need for more exploration in OT, and more failures. After that they tackle: - Why Ralph decided to shift his company and focus from consulting / speaking to product - Is his OT Base, an...
Dino on the DCOM Patch
Unsolicited Response - December 14, 2022 13:48 - 44 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDino Busalachi of Velta Technology talks to Dale about a 2021 security patch to DCOM that broke a number of ICS systems including Rockwell Automation and Siemens. Microsoft had a registry setting that disabled the patch and the incompatibility problem, but this ability to disable the patch goes ...
Moody's: Cyber Risk and Credit Ratings
Unsolicited Response - November 15, 2022 01:55 - 45 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsOn the latest #unsolicitedresponse show I talk with Jim Hempstead, Managing Director of Moody's Global Project & Infrastructure Finance Group with Moody's Investors Service, about OT Cyber Risk and how this impacts Credit Ratings. - What Moody's does and what became of the cyber risk effort a...
Sept 2022 - ICS Security Month In Review
Unsolicited Response - October 05, 2022 11:46 - 26 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson gives his thoughts on the top 3 ICS security stories in Sept 2022, and he gives his wins, fails, and predictions for the month.
The Water Sector (Uniqueness, Cloud, Oldsmar, NERC CIP)
Unsolicited Response - September 28, 2022 12:17 - 51 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsOn this episode of the Unsolicited Response show, Dale Peterson is joined by Kevin Morley of the American Water Works Association and Joel Cox of West Yost Associates to talk about ICS security and the Water Sector. - what makes the water sector unique? - does this uniqueness lead to early a...
SBOM ... Challenge & Thoughts
Unsolicited Response - September 14, 2022 12:30 - 25 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson shares his thoughts on SBOMS in OT in three main areas: 1) The S4 SBOM Challenge ... it's three goals and what we hope to learn from it. 2) Near term, now and for the next 2 years, wins for asset owners and SBOMs. 3) What will determine the winners in the SBOM marketplace, ea...
David Whitehead Interviews Dale on Schweitzer Drive
Unsolicited Response - September 07, 2022 12:33 - 44 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsThe tables were turned as David Whitehead of SEL interviewed Dale Peterson on Dave's Schweitzer Drive show. - How Dale got into cybersecurity and the ICS security world - How has the threat and security posture changed in the last 10 or 20 securities - Dale's view on the core problem that ...
August - ICS Security Month In Review
Unsolicited Response - August 31, 2022 21:18 - 23 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsIn this solosode, Dale Peterson gives his thoughts on three stories from August as well as a win and fail for the month. Stories this month: South Staffs water hack and opportunity for water sector Lloyds market bulletin overreaction vis-a-vis cyber war exclusions QNX forensics tool
Rail Security With Miki Shifman
Unsolicited Response - August 17, 2022 12:30 - 43 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsFreight and passenger rail is another industry sector that relies on ICS for safety and services. It has its own language, consequences and standards. In this episode, Dale Peterson speaks with Miki Shifman of Cylus. Most of the episode digs into how rail systems work and the key areas to sec...
Mikko Hypponen: If It's Smart, It's Vulnerable
Unsolicited Response - August 10, 2022 12:19 - 42 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson talks with Mikko Hypponen about his new book: If It's Smart, It's Vulnerable. As with all books, Dale asks who Mikko wrote the book for, who is the intended reader. Then they dig into some of the interesting parts for the security professional including: What security tasks sho...
ICS Security Month In Review - June 2022
Unsolicited Response - July 06, 2022 20:39 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsUnsolicited Response Month In Review show for June 2022. This is a replay of the live episode. This month's stories: Dragos (Rob Lee/Bloomberg and Dragos OT-CERT) OT:ICEFALL w/ Daniel Dos Santos Dept of Energy's Cyber-Informed Engineering Strategy Document Plus my win, fail & prediction ...
Richard Seiersen - Author Of The Metrics Manifesto
Unsolicited Response - June 29, 2022 17:55 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale Peterson interviewed Richard Seiersen, author of new book The Metrics Manifesto: Confronting Security With Data. For security controls - what would I see that would show me it is working? How do I measure the effectiveness and efficiency of my security controls? Why is so much of the boo...
Phil Venables - CISO at Google Cloud
Unsolicited Response - June 22, 2022 12:32 - 31 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsPhil Venables joins Dale to discuss OT's use, today and in the future, of cloud and edge services. They focus on reliability, security and use cases. The end of the episode focuses on how leadership views security. Phil writes some of the most interesting articles on security at philvenables.com...
The Myth of 85% US Critical Infrastructure Being Privately Owned
Unsolicited Response - June 22, 2022 01:47 - 5 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratingsDale's weekly article originally published on 21 June 2022.
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