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2024 Threat Report – OT Cyber Attacks with Physical Consequences

Unsolicited Response - May 03, 2024 01:26 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Waterfall Security Solutions and ICSSTRIVE put out an annual threat report that Dale Peterson believes is the best in OT. Why? It only includes incidents that had physical consequences on systems monitored and controlled by OT.  Dale and Andrew discuss: What is in and out of scope for the rep...

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State Of NERC CIP, European Update and OT Security Community

Unsolicited Response - April 24, 2024 12:45 - 46 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Patrick Miller has OT cybersecurity experience as an asset owner, PacificCorp. As a regulator and one of the first NERC CIP auditors with WECC. As a community organizer creating and leading EnergySec and the BeerISAC. And as an entrepreneur creating and leading a number of consulting practices. ...

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Book Interview: Introduction To SBOM And VEX

Unsolicited Response - April 17, 2024 12:45 - 59 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson interviews the innovators in ICS / SCADA cyber security as well as the top talent in related fields. It is the podcast for those who want more information similar to what is presented at the annual S4 event each January in Miami South Beach.

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S4x24 Closing Panel

Unsolicited Response - April 10, 2024 12:45 - 36 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson interviews the innovators in ICS / SCADA cyber security as well as the top talent in related fields. It is the podcast for those who want more information similar to what is presented at the annual S4 event each January in Miami South Beach.

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Q1: ICS Security In Review

Unsolicited Response - April 03, 2024 22:15 - 49 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Emma Stewart joins Dale to discuss the 3 big OT & ICS security stories from the first quarter. They end by giving their win, fail and prediction for Q1.

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S4x24 Preview

Unsolicited Response - February 28, 2024 21:51 - 47 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson interviews the innovators in ICS / SCADA cyber security as well as the top talent in related fields. It is the podcast for those who want more information similar to what is presented at the annual S4 event each January in Miami South Beach.

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Predictions Analyzed

Unsolicited Response - December 20, 2023 13:16 - 11 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
In this solosode episode Dale reviews the status of his three predictions from the Q1, 2 and 3 quarter in review episodes and answers a listener question.

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Q4 ICS Security Quarter In Review

Unsolicited Response - December 13, 2023 22:03 - 56 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson interviews the innovators in ICS / SCADA cyber security as well as the top talent in related fields. It is the podcast for those who want more information similar to what is presented at the annual S4 event each January in Miami South Beach.

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CISA Attack Surface Scanning Service

Unsolicited Response - December 06, 2023 13:05 - 30 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale is joined by Steve Pozza, CISA Section Chief of Operational Resilience, and Tom Millar, CISA Branch Chief of Resilience, to discuss some of CISA's security services for asset owners. They discuss: The Internet accessible attack surface enumeration and vulnerability scanning surface. Asse...

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Engineering-Grade OT Security with Andrew Ginter

Unsolicited Response - November 29, 2023 13:35 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Andrew Ginter published his third book this year: Engineering-Grade OT Security. Dale interviews Andrew on the book including: Who was the target reader that Andrew wrote the book for? Do (should) professional engineers lose their licenses for poor and dangerous cybersecurity design and depl...

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Asset Inventory, Lawyers, and AI

Unsolicited Response - November 15, 2023 20:59 - 27 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
This week is a Dale Peterson solosode. Updates and Announcements Dale provides updates about S4x24 ticket sales and announces the Women In ICS Security program and sponsor package. Main Topics Asset Inventory in Cybersecurity: Dale challenges the common security mantra "You can't protect ...

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Is The Purdue Model Dead (E)

Unsolicited Response - November 08, 2023 13:30 - 32 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson interviews the innovators in ICS / SCADA cyber security as well as the top talent in related fields. It is the podcast for those who want more information similar to what is presented at the annual S4 event each January in Miami South Beach.

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Kelly Shortridge - Security Chaos Engineering in ICS

Unsolicited Response - November 01, 2023 12:30 - 47 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Kelly joins Dale to discuss her new book Security Chaos Engineering: Sustaining Resilience in Software and Systems. Kelly points out the second part of the title is the most descriptive, and she is not a big fan of the Chaos term that has taken hold. They discuss: A quick description of Secu...

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IACS System Testing and Assessment Rating (STAR) Methodology with Don Weber

Unsolicited Response - October 25, 2023 12:30 - 39 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Don Weber joins Dale Peterson to describe his IACS STAR Methodology to score the risk of a vulnerability to an ICS (or IACS in 62443-speak). It is a modification of the OWASP Risk Rating Methodology. Don has modified some of the 16-factors to create IACS STAR. The methodology and code is availab...

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Dave Whitehead On SBOMs, Manufacturing in the US, and more

Unsolicited Response - October 18, 2023 12:38 - 40 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dave Whitehead, CEO of SEL, joins Dale on the show to talk about: The new SEL printed circuit board (PCB) factory in Idaho. Why they bucked the trend and did this. The benefits, the ROI, and more. SEL's position on providing SBOMs to customers and their internal use of SBOMs - Where leaders t...

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Cyber Risk Quantification (CRQ) with Nicole Sundin

Unsolicited Response - October 11, 2023 12:37 - 40 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale and Nicole Sundin of Axio discuss CRQ, how to deal with the precision challenge, Axio's prioritization of impact, ransomware on IT affecting operations as an example, and more. They also discuss UX and the single pane of glass. Links Axio web site

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Presidential Candidate Will Hurd

Unsolicited Response - October 04, 2023 12:35 - 27 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Former Congressman and Presidential candidate Will Hurd is a rarity with a tech background in someone who was elected to the US Congress, and even rarer in someone running for President. Will graduated Texas A&M with Computer Science degree. Worked as a Senior Adviser to the cybersecurity compan...

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ICS Security - Q3 In Review

Unsolicited Response - September 27, 2023 19:16 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Patrick Miller of Ampere Industrial Security joins Dale to discuss the three big stories of the quarter and give their win, fail and prediction. Stories US National Cybersecurity Strategy Implementation Plan + CISA 2024-2026 Strategic Plan The cybersecurity / OT cybersecurity vendor market n...

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Dale Peterson On The Sunspace Alliance Webinar

Unsolicited Response - September 20, 2023 13:01 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale Peterson was recently interviewed by Jay Johnson of Sandia and Tom Tansy of the Sunspec Alliance as part of their distributed energy resources (DER) Sunspec webinar series. We covered a lot of issues and Dale was not shy in throwing out some analysis and opinions. After 5 minutes discussing...

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Cyber-Physical Attacks with Marina Krotofil

Unsolicited Response - September 06, 2023 12:47 - 57 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Marina Krotofil recently published the paper Industrial Control Systems: Engineering Foundations and Cyber-Physical Attack Lifecycle which is a detailed paper on cyber attacks that cause a physical impact on the system being monitored and controlled. It took Marina 1.5 years to write this paper,...

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SBOMs & CycloneDX with Steve Springett

Unsolicited Response - August 23, 2023 09:17 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Steve Springett is the Chair of the OWASP CycloneDX Core Working Group. CycloneDX is one of the two main machine readable formats that SBOMs are being created in, although CycloneDX can capture all sorts of BOMs. In this episode we assume listeners know what a SBOM is and why it might be desir...

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The OT Cybersecurity / Climate Nexus with Andy Bochman

Unsolicited Response - August 16, 2023 12:19 - 53 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
At S4x23 Andy Bochman gave a Main Stage performance on the OT Cybersecurity / Climate Nexus. It's a new idea and Dale wanted to dig into it and understand it better. The discussion looks at where there is a nexus/connection/overlap and where there may be parallel efforts where each side might le...

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Water Sector Cyber Risk with Gus Serino

Unsolicited Response - August 09, 2023 12:34 - 50 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Gus Serino worked at a large water utility before joining Dragos in 2019. We're talking water sector so it's obligatory to start with Oldsmar (2:20), but we don't talk cyber. Instead we go through the physical portion of the water system assuming the attacker is able to issue the command to the ...

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One-Way, SAIDI & S4x24 CFP

Unsolicited Response - August 02, 2023 12:30 - 24 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
This is a solo-sode where Dale reviews two articles from July with comments on comments and additional thoughts. The final section is a must listen if you are going to submit to speak on the S4x24 Stage. The times below are so you can skip to what you are interested in. 1:29 One-Way Data Diode...

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Interview with HD Moore

Unsolicited Response - July 26, 2023 12:17 - 35 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
HD Moore is most famous for his creation of the Metasploit penetration testing framework. It began in 2003 and hit the OT world in 2011. HD is now the Founder and CTO of RunZero, another cybersecurity startup that is starting to play in the OT Space.   In this episode we spend the first thir...

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US Dept of Energy's OT Defender Fellowship Program

Unsolicited Response - July 19, 2023 12:30 - 37 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Dale is often critical of the US Government's efforts and programs to address OT cyber risk. So it's a pleasure to highlight a program that is working. Samantha Ravich, Chair of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, joins Dale to discus...

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Eric Cosman On Dow, Open Automation, 62443 & More

Unsolicited Response - July 12, 2023 12:30 - 55 minutes ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Eric Cosman had a 38 year career at Dow Chemical, was on the ISA 99 committee its inception, and then he retired. After retirement Eric joined ARC Advisory Group as a Contributing Consultant and got even more active with ISA. He is a long time co-chair of ISA99 and was President of ISA in 2020. ...

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ICS Security Quarter In Review Q2-2023

Unsolicited Response - July 05, 2023 19:58 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Mark Hyman of Verge Management Group joins Dale to discuss the big 3 stories of Q2 along with their win, fail and predication. Big Stories The OT Security Layoffs (Mark is a recruiter specialized in ICS/OT security) Still No US National Cyber Director? The Merck NotPetya Insurance Claim R...

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Josh Corman - Healthcare Security, SBOMs & More

Unsolicited Response - June 28, 2023 12:45 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
Josh Corman is the VP of Cyber Safety Strategy at Claroty, was the Chief Strategist of the CISA COVID Task Force, and founder of I Am The Cavalry. Josh and I dive into Healthcare Security, SBOMs and other topics.  Can OT in healthcare be treated in a similar way as the factory, power plant, wat...

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OTCEP Panel - Secure PLC Coding Practices

Unsolicited Response - June 21, 2023 12:20 - 1 hour ★★★★★ - 12 ratings
This episode is a replay of a lively panel from the Cyber Security Agency of Singapore's OT Cybersecurity Expert Panel (OTCEP) last year. It begins with a great introduction to the Top 20 Secure PLC Coding Practices by Sarah Fluchs. At the 35 minute mark the panel discussion begins. There was a ...

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