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Mark brings up his musical past and Immanuel talks about the business of art. Together the discussion goes deeper into what it is to know what you are in business to provide. Both in terms of what you really do best, and what people find valuable in what you do. They also talk about why it's so hard to relate to your client or customer when you truly become great at your work. 


Get in touch:

MARK: www.linkedin.com/in/markhleary | www.leary.cc
IMMANUEL: immanuelahiable.art | @immanuelahiable (IG/Twitter)


Production credit:
Engineering / Post-Production: Leo Medley
Art / Design: Immanuel Ahiable