WTFFF?! 3D Printing Podcast Volume One: 3D Print Tips | 3D Print Tools | 3D Start Point
259 episodes - English - Latest episode: about 8 years ago - ★★★★ - 4 ratingsThis is the First 200 episodes of the WTFFF?! 3D-Printing Podcast. WTFFF?! Co-hosts Tom & Tracy Hazzard focus on the what of Fused Filament Fabrication (3D Printing), what design software to use, what printer to buy, what tools to use, what designs should you print, what new materials are out and what your business strategy should be. On the 3D Printing Podcast, they interview the who is who in 3D Print art and design along with others who can help you figure out your what. They share with you how others in the field are creating successful designs and their own how to tools and tips and strategies for integrating 3D Printing into your business, home or classroom.
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Marble Machines
March 19, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.4 MBThingiverse has a curated collection of these marble machines, which if you are a teacher looking for a great STEAM project for your classroom, we think this is it. We've gone through and highlighted our top picks, be sure to check the blog post to see how they look and operate. To send us a […]
3D Print Brand Licensing with Tom Simon of Source 3
March 17, 2016 10:00 - 32 minutes - 30 MBAfter meeting up with Tom Simon of Source 3 at CES this year, we knew we needed to have him on the podcast to discuss the nuances of managing brand content for 3D printing. They are developing a system to take care of all the little details and keeping digital file rights managed correctly whether […]
Is There an Online Community of Teachers for 3D Printing?
March 16, 2016 10:00 - 8 minutes - 7.58 MBWe got a question from a listener about where can you find a community for teachers who use 3D printing in school. There are companies out there with the vision, but it's not quite yet there today. We did a little digging and found some teachers who have created a community of their own, but […]
Advancements in Support
March 15, 2016 10:00 - 15 minutes - 14.2 MBBringing another technical subject here for Tech Tuesday, and today we are talking about the advancements in support and their different capabilities in different slicing software. Is support material worth the time in post-processing? To us, it defeats the purpose of 3D printing, but there are items that are geometrically unable to be printed without […]
Digital Footprint
March 14, 2016 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.2 MBIt's Business Monday, and today we are going to discuss the Digital Footprint conference. It is all about how to create a revenue generating website, and how to get your website to rank on the first page of google for thousands of key words. The information shared at the Digital Footprint Conference is critical for […]
Design by Coding is not Art
March 11, 2016 10:00 - 19 minutes - 18.1 MBIt’s Friday, so it’s our design/innovation issues highlight. We’re going to focus this podcast on a couple of email responses we got to our episode two weeks ago on the digital sundial project. We each mentioned that we both are shocked that some people actually create CAD files through using code instead of a 3D […]
Studies in 3D Print Curriculum with Cindi Schulze of Pride Academy in San Diego
March 10, 2016 10:00 - 29 minutes - 27.1 MBIf you are an educator, or even a student, or you’re involved with education and considering 3D printing, or even if you’re just a parent and you want 3D printing education integrated in your kid’s school system, this interview with Cindi Schultze should be particularly interesting to you because it’s a great story of how […]
Ask Us Anything – MatterHackers Event Part 2
March 09, 2016 10:00 - 35 minutes - 32.5 MBEven though it's Wednesday, we are continuing our Hyper Tech Tuesday from our Ask Us Anything Event with MatterHackers. Part two contains questions geared more towards the advanced 3D print user as well as some live question and answer session from the audience. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a […]
Ask Us Anything – MatterHackers Event Part 1
March 08, 2016 10:00 - 43 minutes - 39.7 MBToday is hyper tech Tuesday as we cover the topics and questions that were asked at the live Ask Us Anything event with Lars Brubaker and Taylor Landry of MatterHackers. We split it into two part to make it more logical, today’s group is more for the new users, while part two will be for more advanced users. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely free, so ask away and and don’t forget to subsc...
3D Freelance Tips
March 07, 2016 10:00 - 16 minutes - 14.9 MBBy the year 2020, it’s expected that over 50% of the business world will be freelancers. If you think, “Oh I’ll just go out and freelance,” think again because it takes some planning to be successful. Sharing our top three freelance tips, especially if you are going to consider 3D print design freelancing. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely free, so ask away and and don’t forget to subscri...
Update on What WTFFF?! Is All About
March 04, 2016 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.6 MBA huge “Thank you,” to all our loyal listeners who made this major milestone possible. Giving a little update for those new to the podcast to explain what the WTFFF?! is all about! To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely free, so ask away and and don’t forget to subscribe so you can hear more on our regularly scheduled Thursday podcast episodes! Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and s...
Making 3D Printing More Accessible with Lars Brubaker of MatterHackers
March 03, 2016 10:00 - 39 minutes - 35.8 MBChecking back in with MatterHackers since our last episode with them, we wanted to talk more generally this time and get a feel for the other things they are working on and where their growth is. They are simplifying the user experience and really developing a plug-n-play system with updates to their MatterControl platform. With over 300% growth from last year to this year, they are definitely headed in the right direction. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message ...
3D Design Theft or Fair Use
March 02, 2016 10:00 - 20 minutes - 18.6 MBAre the file sites on the side of the little guy? Based off what’s happened to Loubie on Thingiverse, where another company took her (and many other designers) files, printed them, and sold the product for profit on Ebay, it does not seem so. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely free, so ask away and and don’t forget to subscribe so you can hear more on our regularly scheduled Thursday podc...
Pausing 3D Prints – Tech Tips Revealed
March 01, 2016 10:00 - 16 minutes - 15.3 MBTracy’s back to try and “Out-tech Tom,” as listener Vicky Somma put it. How to manipulate your 3D printer settings and G-codes to pause a print. Not a beginner topic by any means, but valuable information for printer companies to know what customers need and that a significant amount of users are wanting specific features such as print pausing. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely free, so a...
Challenges of the 3D Print Market
February 29, 2016 10:00 - 17 minutes - 16.3 MBContemplating the many challenges of the 3D print design market, such as trying to appeal to a market that doesn’t even know 3D printing exists yet, or that they need or want 3D printed products. Is it the right move to gain investors, or wait the market out a bit more to when it has truly tipped? Should we go against our own advice of market proofing first? To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolu...
Are We Really Worried About Our Designs Being Stolen?
February 27, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.1 MBIn response to our episode with Hector from 3D Shook, Joseph, a long-time listener said he was really happy with Hector’s response to our question about being worried about his STL files being distributed unfairly or stolen essentially. Joseph said he feels that our crippling fear of people stealing our designs is hurting us and not helping the 3D printing industry either. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twit...
Can You Capture Other Parts in Your 3D Prints?
February 23, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.8 MBIt’s Tech Tuesday, and today’s question is, “Is it possible to make a 3D print where you print part of it and put some other object of a different material into the middle of your print and keep printing over it? So you encapsulate it or capture something in your 3D print.” It brings up a lot of points of whether or not that part could be damaged or how it fits in there. or if you’re going to hurt your 3D printer if you do it. Will it get knocked? There are a lot of things to consider and we...
Is Anyone Actually Selling Any 3D Printed Products?
February 22, 2016 10:00 - 16 minutes - 14.7 MBLong-time listener Eduardo Martini of Brazil recently posed yet another challenging question to us, “Is anybody actually selling anything in 3D printing? Not just giving it away, but selling?” While some designers are making money selling 3D printed products, the market and marketplaces for these designs might not be ready enough yet for you to quit your day job. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its ab...
Educational Project: Digital Sundial
February 19, 2016 10:00 - 9 minutes - 9.05 MBIn this WTFFF?! Episode, Tom and Tracy have found a great educational project for teachers and students. There is a lot of potential here for creating it into a larger lesson plan about time, geography, and of course 3D printing and 3D design. What they are talking about is creating a digital sundial, a little ironic considering sundials are analog by nature. Mojoptix, the designer, has great videos to walk students through the creation of this free file. To send us a message, go to 3dstart...
Jurassic 3D Printers Built to Last Until the Next Ice Age with Clay Guillory of Titan 3D
February 18, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.1 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode, Tom and Tracy have an interview with Clay Guillory of Titan 3D. And that is a big printer; there is a reason they call it Titan. It’s not even just big; it’s built, too. That thing is like a tank. We were really impressed with it when we saw it at CES. I started talking to Clay while we were waiting around, and they are in Colorado Springs. They are in our sister’s backyard and I was thinking we had to get up there. Love the show? Subscribe, rate, review, and sha...
Food 3D Printer Update
February 17, 2016 10:00 - 11 minutes - 10.2 MBTom & Tracy received many tweets and emails in response to their last episode on Countertop Food 3D Printers. In fact, the responses were so positive and informative that they decided to follow up with this WTFFF?! episode to discuss and share it with everyone. There are several more Countertop 3D Printers to note, available through Kickstarter campaigns or direct from manufacturers for 3D Printing food, chocolate, pancakes, and more. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or shoot u...
Why Does My Recurring 3D Print Suddenly Change?
February 16, 2016 10:00 - 10 minutes - 9.46 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy answer a technical and practical question from a listener who prints the same type of objects over and over again. The question is: Why does a part that I have printed regularly and successfully over a long period of time all of a sudden have problems when I go and print it? That always surprises me. We’ll get a print off the printer, and there are gaps and holes and things. But we just printed this, and everything seems to be working, but all of a sudden...
ThingMaker by Mattel, Is This a Game Changer?
February 15, 2016 10:00 - 13 minutes - 11.9 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss some exciting news coming from the Toy Fair in New York. There will be a 3D print version of the ThingMaker, which is a Mattel toy from the ‘60s. Mattel has recognized the opportunity with modern desktop 3D printing. They are reviving the name of the ThingMaker and the concept of kids making their own toys, this time using 3d print technology. Is Mattel just jumping on the band wagon, or could this be a game changer? To send us a message, go to ...
Are There Countertop Food 3D Printers?
February 12, 2016 10:00 - 13 minutes - 12.6 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode, Tom & Tracy discuss if there are any desktop, less expensive food printers, in particular chocolate printers?” I can totally understand because the idea of making lacy chocolate designs and other intricate things that are hard to do by hand sounds great. How fun would that be? Besides, it’s chocolate. Who doesn’t want chocolate? To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twit...
A 3D Print Prototype for Business Success with Scott Brandonisio of Ring Cam
February 11, 2016 10:00 - 25 minutes - 23.2 MBThey have developed this specialized ring box that you put your engagement ring in when you are going to propose. It has a camera in it, and you hold it up as you’re down on your knee, and it videos her entire expression, reaction, and everything. They even teach you howto use it properly; there is a video that teaches you how to hold the box so In this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy interview Scott Brandonisio of Ring Cam. They use 3D Printing to develop and produce this specialized ring bo...
How Harmful Are 3D Printing Fumes?
February 10, 2016 10:00 - 11 minutes - 10.7 MBIn This WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy discuss a research study by the University of Texas that conclusively determines if the fumes from 3D printing plastic materials are harmful. While many of us have believed that ABS fumes are bad for us, and that PLA is safe, we have not really had any scientific evidence to back that belief up. Tom & Tracy dig into the details and share the results with you. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at info@...
How Come You Never Make Me Anything?
February 09, 2016 10:00 - 9 minutes - 8.62 MBHappy Mardi Gras! In this WTFFF?! episodes Tracy asks Tom “How come you never make me anything?” I always say how you never make me anything, but it’s really not true. You did make me something for Mardi Gras. Not for Valentine’s Day, mind you, but for Mardi Gras. We had the opportunity to be on a Game of Thrones Mardi Gras float in the parade in San Diego this past weekend. And you made me a Melisandre necklace. You’re going to dress up for a costume party, and you need the right accesso...
3D Print Your Way To A Super Bowl Ad
February 08, 2016 10:00 - 9 minutes - 9.01 MBIn This WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy discuss this guy on the Carolina Panthers team who is playing in the Super Bowl. We don’t actually know the outcome of the Super Bowl yet. But this guy Thomas Davis broke his arm in the NFC Championship game, and he had surgery the next day and had a whole bunch of screws put in the bone of his arm to hold it together. Theoretically, he can play, but he will probably be in quite a bit of pain even though it was about two weeks ago. It’s still not healed ye...
How to Improve Your 3D Prints
February 05, 2016 10:00 - 13 minutes - 12.1 MBIn this episode of WTFFF?! Tracy asks Tom a question about how to improve the quality of a 3D print. What is the attack process? It starts with defining what improvement is to you. Is it just speed because it is taking too long to print? Or is it quality of the surface smoothness and things like that? Is it having it come off the build plate and it’s done? Meaning you don’t have to clean anything up. There are many things to consider, but also many ways to make improvements to your 3D Print...
The Netflix Of On Demand 3D Printing with Hector Berrebi of 3DShook
February 04, 2016 10:00 - 35 minutes - 32.5 MB3DShook has made the WTFFF?! Best Of list multiple times. The Valentine’s Day list was published recently, and another item of theirs made the list. In this episode of WTFFF?!, Tom & Tracy interview Hector Berrebi of 3DShook to learn about what makes their content different. Are they the Netflix of on demand 3D printing? We discovered that they are actually designing themselves. They have exclusive content; it is not your average, user-generated file repository. This is actual designers wh...
Meetup with Matterhackers
February 03, 2016 10:00 - 9 minutes - 8.77 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode, Tom & Tracy discuss an upcoming “Ask Us Anything’ event they are doing in cooperation with MatterHackers. It’s a meet-up with MatterHackers. But it’s an “Ask Us Anything” event where Lars and Taylor from MatterHackers along with Tom & Tracy will be there to answer questions about 3D printing. It’s going to be your opportunity as an interested listener and a 3D printing person in the community to come in and meet us and some of the leaders of MatterHackers and ask que...
How Can I Get Educated for a Career in 3D Printing?
February 02, 2016 10:00 - 10 minutes - 9.76 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy received a question over Facebook from a listener who is about to retire from the military, and is seeking a second career in the 3D printing industry. He is asking, What degree or education path would we recommend the most for him to become a valuable asset in the coming years? That is the first part of his question. The second part is: Are there any minimum software certifications he should know about? Great questions. To send us a message, go to 3dstar...
Valentines Day Suggestions
February 01, 2016 10:00 - 8 minutes - 7.94 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode, Tracy Asks Tom a question: “What are you going to print me for Valentine’s Day?” The reality is, it does take a long time to create and then model and test and print something new. You better think ahead or get a jump start, which is why we post our “Best Of” lists. We just posted our Valentine’s Day Best of list, and while I’m not super excited about all of the things on the list—some of them are just a little cutesy—but there are a couple of nice things there. Esp...
Food 3D Printing
January 29, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MBFood 3D Printing has come from a couple of times from listeners over social media asking us about the sugar printers and the chocolate printers. I promised we would follow up because I really want one. Of course, we went to CES at the beginning of this month, and there was quite a significant display of the food 3D printers at the 3D Systems booth. It’s the second year in a row; they had it last year, and they had it again this year. But there have been some developments, and even XYZ has ...
3D Printing Apps Promote Ease of Use with Drew Taylor of AstroPrint
January 28, 2016 10:00 - 42 minutes - 38.7 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode we decided to follow up withsomeone we met at SoCal MakerCon. Back then we didn’t have enough time to getin depth about what they do; the company is AstroPrint. In the SoCal MakerConinterview with him I said that their company is just apps and software, so it didn’tquite excite me. But now that we havelearned more about it, I actually think it really is exciting. Drew Taylor is one ofthe founders of AstroPrint, and we had a really good interview with him. To send ...
3D Print Design Customization
January 27, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.7 MBOne of the greatest advantages of 3D Printing technology is the ability to make each pat you print unique. The amount of time to create and prepare each part to print can be complicated and time consuming. In this WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy discuss tips and best practices for customizing your 3D models to speed the process and achieve the best 3D Print results. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook...
Should you 3D print 200 parts, or only one and cast the rest?
January 26, 2016 10:00 - 8 minutes - 8.23 MBIf you need to make 200 of a napkin ring for a party that takes one hour each to 3D Print, should you 3D Print them all, or just one and then make a silicone mold to cast the rest? This is another great question submitted by Eduardo Martini of Brazil. In this WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy go over the details and weigh the options between speed, skills required, material quality, design limitations, and labor. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a messa...
Is 3D Printing many parts at one time better?
January 25, 2016 10:00 - 11 minutes - 10.8 MBA long time listener from Brazil, Eduardo Martini, has written in with a couple of good new 3D printing questions including, “If you need a quantity of 200, is it better to print them one at a time, or as many as you can fit on the build plate at once?” In this WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy discuss the pros and cons of this issue, because the answer is not as straight forward as you might think. To send us a message, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at info@w...
3D Printer Overload
January 22, 2016 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.5 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss 3D Printer overload. After yesterday’s interview with Aniwaa and learning about how many printers, scanners, and software they have in their database as it exists today—926 3D printers alone—our minds are blown. We feel like we are having 3D printer overload right now. Every week on Kickstarter or in the media, there is another press release or announcement about a new 3D printer in the market. We saw a few at CES that are start-ups that will b...
Martin Lansard and Pierre-Antoine Arrighi of Aniwaa
January 21, 2016 10:00 - 49 minutes - 45.4 MBIn This WTFFF?! episode Tom & Tracy have an interview from across the pond over in France with two business partners and co-founders of a website called Aniwaa.com. They are Martin Lansardand Pierre-Antoine Arrighi. Aniwaa started out as a blog with product comp charts, which were awesome, because they would compare features between multiple printers, five or six of them at a time. Then there was a quick-sort as well. We thought it was a really useful tool, and have used it many times. N...
Consumer vs. Prosumer
January 20, 2016 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.6 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss if the future market for 3D printing more consumer or prosumer? This question is coming up because of 3D Systems’ decision to abandon the consumer market, not sell the Cube 3D Printer, and go back to their roots of industrial 3D printing and the prosumer market in general. The prosumer may be the closest to the consumer market they are going to get because they are staying more commercial, their comfort zone of where they have been, but they are...
3D Designs For Sale
January 19, 2016 10:00 - 8 minutes - 7.77 MBA lot of people have asked us over recent months: “Can we buy your tie? Is it for sale? Where can we buy your 3D-printed tie?” In this WTFFF?! episode we discuss the options we considered for where to sell it, and reveal that it is finally for sale. We gave a lot of thought about where to sell it, and at one point, Amazon had a 3D-printed product store. We were very excited about that, and we got accepted into it. But then they disbanded it promptly before we were able to get our product o...
Big Show vs. Little Show
January 18, 2016 10:00 - 13 minutes - 12.6 MBWe have had some questions from listeners about some of the events happening locally and internationally. In this episode of WTFFF?! Tom & Tracy discuss the biggest question, which events are better to attend and participate in: Big show or little show? The problem is, it’s like a big fish, little pond, little fish, big pond kind of situation. It really depends on your goals. Doesn’t it depend on whether you are an attendee or an exhibitor? Let’s break that down. To send us a voicemail, go...
CES Recap
January 15, 2016 10:00 - 41 minutes - 38.2 MBMy feet still hurt from walking seemingly endless rows of exhibits at CES as I write this. We just got back from CES, and while it’s fresh in our minds, we are going to recap the best and the worst of CES 2016 in regard to 3D printing. Let’s just say, that show is gigantic. Thank goodness the 3D printing related companies were not spread out so much. For those of you that did not have the opportunity to attend the show, we have you covered. In this episode of WTFFF?! we run down our best an...
Planning A Killer 3D Printing Event with Colton Robtoy of CD Printathlon
January 14, 2016 10:00 - 42 minutes - 38.7 MBLast August we interviewed Colton Robtoy as he wasplanning the CD Printathlon. CD is the Capital District, which is the Albany,NY area. We were talking to him about the challenges of planning this Printathlon.He was trying to get the word out about it, and that is why he came on ourpodcast. Very recently we noticed that he had written some recap blogposts in the Pulse on LinkedIn. They were awesome; they had such great tips. Hewas so honest about all the things that went wrong, and we loved...
Shapeways Top 10 Most Purchased Products of 2015
January 13, 2016 10:00 - 11 minutes - 10.7 MBShapeways recently published a report on its top 10 most purchased products of 2015. In this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy run down the top 10, and discuss what the most purchased products tells us about the customers who shop at Shapeways. Has the market tipped with mainstream consumers shopping in this marketplace, or is it still dominated by the 3D converted? To send us a voicemail, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebo...
3D Hubs January Report Recap
January 12, 2016 10:00 - 12 minutes - 11.2 MBThe January Report from 3D Hubs was released last week. In this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss the highlights from the report, and have a deeper discussion on how useful this information is. Do the differences in the report from month to month signal significant shifts in the industry, or do you have to look at changes over a longer period of time in order to get a clear picture of how things are shifting? LINKS IN THIS EPISODE 3D Hubs January Report To send us a voicemail, go to 3...
Smart Extruder+ Announcement
January 11, 2016 10:00 - 14 minutes - 13.3 MBLast week MakerBot announced that this month they are releasing a new Smart Extruder, called the Smart Extruder+. In this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss if this is just another Band-Aid making an incremental improvement, or if this represents a major change for the MakerBot line of 3D printers? LINKS IN THIS EPISODE Yahoo Finance article cited To send us a voicemail, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twit...
3D Print Crowd Source vs. Professional Design
January 08, 2016 10:00 - 11 minutes - 10.4 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss if manufacturers should use crown sourced designs to build your design library, or should use professional designers? It really depends on your business model, or your plan. In some cases crown sourced designs may not meet your needs, the old adage is still true, you get what you pay for. To send us a voicemail, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutely...
3D Print Croud Source vs. Professional Design
January 08, 2016 10:00 - 9 minutes - 8.76 MBIn this WTFFF?! episode Tom and Tracy discuss if manufacturers should use crown sourced designs to build your design library, or should use professional designers? It really depends on your business model, or your plan. In some cases crown sourced designs may not meet your needs, the old adage is still true, you get what you pay for. To send us a voicemail, go to 3dstartpoint.com or wtfffpodcast.com or shoot us a message at [email protected] or on our facebook or twitter! Its absolutel...