In this episode we're joined by Kate Billing.  One of our favourite humans. Kate is a Speaker, Author, Thought Leader and Change Maker.  She is a Faculty Member of Thought Leaders Business School and Founder and Creative Director of Blacksmith.  

As someone who is passionate about putting the tricky business of being fully human right at the centre of how we live, lead and work you can be sure this conversation is going to take you on one soul filled, kick ass, no pretence rollicking ride.  The messy ride that is being human.

A melting pot of psychology, neuroscience, philosophy,  & sociology with a hefty dash of magic, vulnerability and humour is how we would describe it.

We talk about choosing to own who we are, what we believe and how we show up in the world.  

How prepared are we to be seen? Let alone being comfortable enough to fly our freak flags!

We also explore how our most transformative experiences, usually involve the breaking down or burning up of something.  

We cover so much ground as we sit around the campfire in this convo:  

Not letting who you are get in the way of who you can becomeKate's breaking & burning defining momentsThe importance of light & shadow in our own experienceUnderstanding why we sufferBeing better humans & leadersEndless curiosity & fascination with the ourselves & those around usSynchronicity & IntuitionMagicTransition & agingLeadership being your ability to be visible in the world (not a title)Being explorers, & pathmakers (vs following old maps)Living our lives asleep at the wheel


And so much more.

We are so grateful for Kate's generosity of spirit & wisdom in this episode, we hope you walk away feeling just a little of what we did after sharing time with her.

You can find Kate on Insta: @katebilling and at www.blacksmith.co.nz.

Big love Jax & Kim xx

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