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From the editors of TulsaPeople Magazine, Tulsa's award-winning city magazine. 

 Every other Wednesday we go About Town to share audio reports, behind-the-scenes stories and more in episodes that run 10-15 minutes.

Archived on this channel are more than 100 episodes of Tulsa Talks, which are in-depth conversations with notable Tulsans. 

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Tulsa's Timeless Honky-tonk – Chad Rodgers, Cain's Ballroom

April 01, 2020 19:00 - 1 hour - 45.1 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. Oh boy was I excited to do this interview. My guest on this episode is Chad Rodgers, who co-owns and operates the legendary Cain’s Ballroom. It’s a place I consider a second home. I’ve seen hundreds of concerts at Cain’s over the years, yet I’d never talked to Chad until we sat down for this conversation the second week of March.  At the time it was coincidentally one of the quietist months for the venue s...

The Kindness Effect -- Jill Donovan, Rustic Cuff CEO

March 18, 2020 21:00 - 57 minutes - 39.4 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. My guest on this episode is Rustic Cuff founder and CEO Jill Donovan.  Jill was an attorney and adjunct professor at TU when she started making bracelets as a side hustle. That quickly turned into a full-time operation, which allowed Jill to grow as a business leader, an author, a podcast host of CEO-ish and gave her an even better ability to share her love of doing random acts of kindness, which she appro...

Tulsa’s public art boom – Case Morton, co-founder Clean Hands Army

March 04, 2020 18:00 - 54 minutes - 37.2 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. My guest is Case Morton, co-founder of Clean Hands Army.  Nearly a decade ago, a group of artistic friends decided to launch a business. One of their early projects was painting a couple of murals in downtown, including the Woody Guthrie Center.  Today they have more than 35 murals across Tulsa. Their work sparked a public art revolution in the city and now there are paintings on business walls all over t...

Creating Community at Fulton Street - Onikah Asamoa-Caesar

February 19, 2020 16:00 - 1 hour - 44.3 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. I’m thrilled to share this conversation with you. The voice you heard kicking this off is my guest, Onikah Asamoa-Caesar. She’s the founder of soon-to-open Fulton Street Books and Coffee located in the Heights, which is just northwest of downtown Tulsa. Onikah’s story is incredible. We shared it in our February issue in a great feature written by Jessica Brent. If you haven’t read it, visit TulsaPeople.com ...

Bringing Hollywood to Tulsa – Abby Kurin

February 05, 2020 17:00 - 49 minutes - 34.3 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. There’s been a lot of news lately about legendary director Martin Scorsese coming to northeast Oklahoma to film Leonardo DiCaprio in Killers of the Flower Moon. It’s just one of many movie and television productions to film in our area in recent years, and there are more to come. The voice you just heard a moment ago is Abby Kurin. Abby plays a significant role in bringing movies like Killers of the Flower ...

Oklahoma Agricultural Cuisine – Lisa Becklund

January 15, 2020 19:00 - 1 hour - 43 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. You just heard Lisa Becklund. She’s a chef turned farmer back to chef. Friends have told me she offers one of the best dining experiences they’ve ever had. I have yet to enjoy it for myself. It’s like trying to land a seat at a Saturday Night Live taping. Nearly impossible. We talk about the sudden and continual success of her farm to table dinners she describes as agricultural cuisine of Oklahoma. Her oper...

Tulsan of the Year - Jeff Martin

January 01, 2020 16:00 - 1 hour - 46.1 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. The voice you just heard is our TulsaPeople Tulsan of the Year, Jeff Martin. I’m a huge fan of Jeff and the work he does for our city. At the end of our conversation we recorded in early December, I mentioned to Jeff that his work has helped keep me in Tulsa, and that’s definitely true. I’m a bookworm and a regular audience member at author talks hosted by Booksmart Tulsa, which was launched by Jeff in 2009...

Investing in Tulsa’s future – Maggie Hoey

December 18, 2019 19:00 - 1 hour - 44.7 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. The voice you just heard is Maggie Hoey. For the past few years, she’s served as the executive director of TYPROS, one of the largest, most organized young professional organizations in the nation. In that role, she she’s worked to provide young professionals from all professions with opportunities to build relationships with community, business and government leaders and give a voice and outlet for creatin...

Rebranding Oklahoma -- Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell

December 04, 2019 22:00 - 59 minutes - 41.1 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. The person you just heard is Matt Pinnell, the Lt. Governor of Oklahoma. Since he announced his 2018 campaign to run for office, Matt has been going nonstop. It’s like he took a brief break to be sworn in and then kept on bouncing around the state. It seems like every day he’s in a different Oklahoma community, celebrating a reason for people to visit. In early November he stopped by our office to chat abou...

In the kitchen - Ben Alexander

November 20, 2019 18:00 - 1 hour - 45.4 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes.  The voice you just heard is Ben Alexander, Vice President of Culinary Operations for the McNellie’s Group. You know how crazy the kitchen gets at your family holiday gatherings? Just imagine that times 20 in nearly 20 kitchens serving different styles of food every single day. As you heard in the intro, it can get crazy. I love the description of it being like a chaotic ballet. Having worked in some resta...

3.08: In the kitchen - Ben Alexander

November 20, 2019 18:00 - 1 hour - 45.4 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes.  The voice you just heard is Ben Alexander, Vice President of Culinary Operations for the McNellie’s Group. You know how crazy the kitchen gets at your family holiday gatherings? Just imagine that times 20 in nearly 20 kitchens serving different styles of food every single day. As you heard in the intro, it can get crazy. I love the description of it being like a chaotic ballet. Having worked in some resta...

In the kitchen - Ben Alexander

November 20, 2019 18:00 - 1 hour - 45.4 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes.  The voice you just heard is Ben Alexander, Vice President of Culinary Operations for the McNellie’s Group. You know how crazy the kitchen gets at your family holiday gatherings? Just imagine that times 20 in nearly 20 kitchens serving different styles of food every single day. As you heard in the intro, it can get crazy. I love the description of it being like a chaotic ballet. Having worked in some resta...

3.07: Cherokee storyteller - Jennifer Loren

November 06, 2019 19:00 - 56 minutes - 38.5 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I'm your host Tim Landes. The voice you just heard belongs to Jennifer Loren. She's a co-creator, producer, director, and the host of the Emmy winning series, "Osiyo, Voices of the Cherokee People." It's a weekly documentary style program airing nationwide and online. Currently in its fifth season, OsiyoTV allows Cherokee Nation citizens to share their stories with you.  For many years, Jennifer worked as an investigative reporter ...

3.06: Representing District 73 - Regina Goodwin

October 16, 2019 18:00 - 1 hour - 45.9 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes. The person you just heard is Regina Goodwin. Her family instilled in her the philosophy that “Service is the rent we pay for our room and board on earth.” In 2015, Goodwin became the state representative for District 73, which covers downtown and north Tulsa. It’s the area where Goodwin was born and raised and now represents. She reflects on growing up on the historic Greenwood Ave and where we are today as...

3.05: Gathering Place's successful first year - Jeff Stava

October 02, 2019 17:00 - 56 minutes - 38.8 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. I’m your host Tim Landes.  The voice that just kicked this is off is Jeff Stava. Jeff is the chief operating officer for Tulsa Community Foundation and the executive director of Tulsa’s Gathering Place, which just celebrated its first birthday after a phenomenal opening year. Park officials expected around 1 million visitors, but it was a little more popular than anticipated with nearly 3 million people visiting Gathering Place.   ...

3.04: 'Actually Innocent' - Corey Atchison

September 18, 2019 21:00 - 1 hour - 48.4 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber, I’m your host Tim Landes.  That voice belongs to Corey Atchison. On July 16, Corey became a free man for the first time in nearly three decades. Judge Sharon Holmes said he was “actually innocent” of the 1990 killing of James Warren Lane. During our conversation, Corey revisits the night of the murder. He was found guilty on June 14 1991. Two days before the verdict, Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls won their first championsh...

3.03: Order Up -- Johnna Hayes

September 04, 2019 16:00 - 1 hour - 42.3 MB

Johnna Hayes has devoted her career to working her way up through the Tulsa restaurant scene over the last two decades. Four years ago, she was a bartender. Today, she's one of three women who run 3 Sirens Restaurant Group, which operates two Bramble locations, Bird and Bottle, and the newly acquired Celebrity Club Restaurant. Plus there's more on the way. Hayes discusses growing up in Tulsa's service industry and how it's evolved. She talks about what it's like to run a restaurant business...

3.02: Getting schooled - Dr. Deborah Gist

August 21, 2019 18:00 - 57 minutes - 39.2 MB

Welcome to Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber. On this episode, a conversation with Dr. Deborah Gist, superintendent of Tulsa Public Schools.  We all heard about the teacher salary increases, but where are they on teacher hiring (11:20)? State funding for education remains among the lowest in the nation, so what needs to change (12:50)?  Dr. Gist looks back at her 30-year career (18:00) that started, like many other Oklahoma teaching grads, in a Texas classroom. She discusses...

3.01: Higher Education - Dr. Leigh Goodson

August 07, 2019 17:00 - 47 minutes - 32.6 MB

Welcome to the third season of Tulsa Talks presented by Tulsa Regional Chamber.  Our season premiere features a conversation with Dr. Leigh Goodson, president and CEO of Tulsa Community College. We begin the discussion by talking about TCC’s 50th anniversary, which is also featured in the August issue of TulsaPeople. She talks about the school as it is today, what it means to her to be the first female president of the school (4:10), a bit about her background and then checking in on the T...

2.12: The Outsider — Danny Boy O’Connor

June 19, 2019 15:00 - 39 minutes - 26.9 MB

Today, a conversation with Danny Boy O’Connor, who went from 90s hip hop star to passionate preservationist, transforming The Outsiders House into a museum, and a point of pride for Tulsa. Then, City Editor Morgan Phillips steps up to the plate for an extra-sporty edition of What the What? So let’s talk, Tulsa. That’s the voice of Danny Boy O’Connor, savior of the now-revered “Outsiders” house once destined for demolition. He’s turning it into a pop culture museum centered on the 1983 fil...

2.11: Don’t Hold Back — Sherry Gamble Smith

June 05, 2019 16:00 - 40 minutes - 18.4 MB

Today, a conversation with Sherry Gamble Smith on Tulsa’s Juneteenth celebration, and how we as a city can continue to move toward reconciliation. Then, editor Anne Brockman offers her top picnic tips for that perfect summer meal. This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by the Tulsa Regional Chamber. So let’s talk, Tulsa. Topics in this episode Juneteenth: its significance/history nationally and here in Tulsa. How Sherry and her committee helped reinvent Tulsa Juneteenth. What Tul...

2.10: The Ripple — Taylor Hanson

May 15, 2019 20:00 - 46 minutes - 21.3 MB

That’s Taylor Hanson, and if you live in Tulsa or if you’re a fan of eponymous band Hanson, he needs no introduction. The band is comprised of brothers Isaac (guitar, bass, piano, vocals), Taylor (keyboards, piano, guitar, drums, vocals), and Zac (drums, piano, guitar, vocals). They started the band in 1992 when they were 11, 9 and 6, and skyrocketed to fame with MMMBop in 1997. Now, 27 years after the band’s founding, they are still making music.  Part of the reason these brothers are so b...

2.9: The Nexus — Kuma Roberts

May 01, 2019 22:00 - 36 minutes - 16.9 MB

You’re listening to Tulsa Talks, a TulsaPeople podcast, episode 2.9. I’m Anna Bennett. This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by the Tulsa Regional Chamber. Today, a conversation with Kuma Roberts, the Chamber’s self-described renaissance woman. Then, Morgan Phillips tries her hand at figure drawing in a fully-clothed installment of What the What?!  So let’s talk, Tulsa. That’s Kuma Roberts, Executive Director of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion at Tulsa Regional Chamber — and for...

2.8: The Homecoming — Joy Harjo

April 17, 2019 22:00 - 37 minutes - 17.1 MB

Few people have created art across as many disciplines as Joy Harjo. Even fewer have achieved her level of success.  The Tulsa native and member of the Muscogee Creek Nation is best known for her poetry, which she writes as "a voice of the indigenous people." Since the 1970s, she has published 12 books of poetry, which have won her myriad awards: the prestigious Ruth Lilly Prize, a Guggenheim Fellowship, the Josephine Miles Poetry Award, the William Carlos Williams Award, the American India...

2.7: Walk in Love — Majeste Pearson

April 03, 2019 22:00 - 37 minutes - 17.2 MB

This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by the Tulsa Regional Chamber. Today, Majeste Pearson is in the studio to talk about the many ups and downs of a career in music — even at the tender age of 22. Then, city editor Morgan Phillips discovers the next best thing to owning a time machine in a positively medieval edition of What the What?! So let’s talk, Tulsa. That’s musician Majeste Pearson, or Majeste Amour, as she’s known on social media. The singing sensation appeared on TV sc...

2.6: Greater Expectations — G.T. Bynum

March 20, 2019 05:00 - 40 minutes - 18.7 MB

Mayor G.T. Bynum on how data analysis can reinvent civic decision-making, and how social media can reconnect elected officials to the people. Happy First Day of Spring, Tulsa! Editor Anne Brockman shares what’s on the menu this season across town. So let’s talk, Tulsa. This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by the Tulsa Regional Chamber. "People in Tulsa aren't sitting back and saying, Hey, aren't we great for doing these things? They're saying, Yeah, this is great. What are we go...

2.5: The Champ — Emeka Nnaka

March 06, 2019 06:00 - 36 minutes - 16.6 MB

This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by the Tulsa Regional Chamber. Today, Amazing Emeka talks about finding his path — and his surprise appearance on the Ellen Show. Then, city editor Morgan Phillips takes the bus — with an adorable sidekick in tow, during What the What?! So let’s talk, Tulsa. Emeka Nnaka is synonymous with resilience, optimism and service. Today, he’s a motivational speaker, the face of the United Way, an ambassador for The Center for Individuals with Physical...

2.4: #KnopeLife — Anna America

February 20, 2019 06:00 - 34 minutes - 15.8 MB

Anna America took the helm at Tulsa’s Parks and Recreation department in the fall of 2018. Despite being relatively new at this position, Anna is certainly no stranger to life in the public eye. This episode of Tulsa Talks is brought to you by Celebrate LIFE, March 7 at the Cox Business Center, a gala benefiting LIFE Senior Services. You’re listening to Tulsa Talks, a TulsaPeople podcast, episode 2.4. I’m Anna Bennett. Today, it’s "thought for your thoughts" with the director of Parks & R...

2.3: Get that “Woo!” — Tom Basler

February 06, 2019 06:00 - 56 minutes - 26.1 MB

Today, a conversation with dueling piano phenom Tom Basler about his many reinventions, both personal and professional. Then, City Editor Morgan Phillips plays with hammers and hot metal during What the What?! So let’s talk, Tulsa. That’s the voice of Tom Basler, talking about why he decided to stay in Tulsa — even after his son left for the Navy and his long-time gig at Full Moon Cafe came to an end.  Tom Basler has had a storied career as a dueling piano player — Excuse me, Singalong Pi...

2.2: Mending with Gold — Ana Berry

January 17, 2019 06:00 - 47 minutes - 21.7 MB

Today’s guest left Tulsa with dreams of stardom. Now, Ana Berry is a champion for the city, with a new perspective on life. Then, Langston Hughes Academy senior Adilene Peru delivers Martin Luther King Jr.’s “I Have a Dream” speech. So let’s talk, Tulsa. That’s the voice of Ana Berry, a media personality and yoga teacher. Even if you don’t know her name, you probably know Ana. Ana is the daughter of Beth Rengel, the longtime Tulsa news anchor and reporter turned real estate agent, and t...

2.1: The Pivot — Meg Myers Morgan

January 03, 2019 00:00 - 50 minutes - 23.1 MB

Season 2 is all about reinvention, and you could say that today’s guest, Meg Myers Morgan, wrote the book on how to do it — through negotiation and self-reflection.  Then, City Editor Morgan Phillips takes fitness resolutions to new heights on today’s edition of What the What?! So let’s talk, Tulsa. Today's episode is brought to you by CVCaudit.com, presenting the 2019 TulsaPeople Readership Survey. That’s the voice of Meg Myers Morgan, assistant professor at OU-Tulsa and coordinator of ...

2.0: Reinvention

January 01, 2019 00:00 - 1 minute - 716 KB

Coming to your podcast feed on January 2... It’s Tulsa Talks 2.0. The second season of Tulsa Talks is all about reinvention.   The good...   The bad...   And the unexpected...   Featuring guests like Meg Myers Morgan, Ana Berry, Emeka Nnaka, G.T. Bynum, Tom Basler, Anna America and more. But city editor Morgan Phillips hasn’t changed one bit. She’ll be trying something new every month on What the What?! Start the New Year with a new season of Tulsa Talks, available on Apple Podca...

Episode 10: Mazen Abufadil, Photography Teacher at Holland Hall

December 19, 2018 12:00 - 50 minutes - 23.1 MB

You’re listening to Tulsa Talks, a TulsaPeople Podcast, episode 10. I’m your host, Anna Bennett.  This episode is brought to you by Gilcrease Museum, presenting the exhibit Americans All!  On this season one finale, I talk with Mazen Abufadil, an artist, educator and immigrant, whose work is currently featured at the Gilcrease Museum. Plus, Jerry Wofford takes a look back at the best musical moments of 2018.  There are two things I notice immediately about Mazen Abufadil — he’s got a qui...

Episode 9: Scott Stulen, Philbrook Museum

December 05, 2018 22:00 - 35 minutes - 16.1 MB

Today's episode is sponsored by Tulsa Botanic Garden, presenting Festival of Lights through January 6. On today’s episode, I’m feeling extra festive, because we’ve got Philbrook Museum director Scott Stulen in the studio to talk about the museum’s annual Festival. Then, Morgan Phillips takes the stage with a dramatic rendition of What the What?! That’s the voice of Scott Stulen, the now-iconic director of the always-iconic Philbrook Museum. In the past 2 and a half years, Scott has steere...

Episode 8: Cindy Webb, Pause4Paws

November 21, 2018 21:00 - 44 minutes - 20.5 MB

Tulsa has many wonderful programs and initiatives to help those struggling with mental health crises, homelessness and other problems. But a new nonprofit, Pause4Paws, seeks to eliminate an often-unseen barrier to seeking help — by offering short-term emergency pet fostering. I sat down executive Cindy Webb to find out more. Any pet owner can tell you the positive mental health effects that animals provide. Cindy sees this phenomenon on a much larger scale. Plus, Anne Brockman offers some ...

Episode 7: Elizabeth Frame Ellison, CEO of the Lobeck Taylor Family Foundation

November 07, 2018 17:00 - 41 minutes - 19 MB

You're listening to Tulsa Talks, a TulsaPeople podcast. I'm your host Anna Bennett.   Today's episode features a conversation with Elizabeth Frame Ellison, the President and CEO of the Lobeck Taylor Family Foundation, which just celebrated the opening of the Mother Road Market. Then city editor Morgan Philips tries her hand at storytelling in this week's episode of what the what?! So let's talk Tulsa  "I think I'm raising little entrepreneurs because they they're asking me if they can sell...

Halloween Surprise: Spooky Tulsa Stories

October 31, 2018 05:00 - 44 minutes - 20.6 MB

On today's special Halloween bonus episode of the Tulsa Talks podcast, we sit down with two Tulsans who live in real haunted houses. Listen if you dare...

Episode 6: Vanessa Hall-Harper, District 1 City Councilor

October 17, 2018 05:00 - 54 minutes - 25.2 MB

Today’s episode is sponsored by Care Card, benefiting Family and Children’s Services. City Councilor Vanessa Hall-Harper gives us a debrief of why civilian oversight might be the next step to mend relations between community and police. Later on, Ian Swart from the Historical Society shares a spooky true crime story about a serial killer, a correspondence club, and a string of ex-husbands. So let’s talk, Tulsa. “I’m married to a cop for 25 years, so I have a unique perspective.” That’s...

Episode 5: Shagah Zakerion is Addicted to Tulsa

October 03, 2018 05:00 - 50 minutes - 23 MB

You may know her as the Kevin Bacon of Tulsa, the former executive director of TYPros, or as the founder of Zakerion Strategies and Consulting, but title aside, Shagah Zakerion might just be Tulsa’s biggest fan, and the city’s fiercest advocate. Shagah’s unique resume and passion for the city have made her the perfect booster for Tulsa’s latest up-and-coming development. The Arena District Master Plan is a vision for the 30-block Arena District, located on the western side of Downtown Tuls...

BONUS: Local Music Roundup with Jerry Wofford

October 01, 2018 05:00 - 18 minutes - 8.45 MB

During last week's episode, Jerry Wofford from the Woody Guthrie Center just has too many recommendations to contain in the brief music segment. So, we decided to release the whole interview as a bonus episode. Listen up — you just might discover your new favorite artist. Featured music in this episode: Levi Parham,"Heavyweight," from the album "It's All Good." Click here for more info. Desi and Cody, "Wicked Games" and "It's Our Thing," from the album "Yes, This is Killing Us." Click her...

Episode 4: Kerry Vincent from the Oklahoma Sugar Art Show

September 19, 2018 05:00 - 45 minutes - 20.9 MB

When you think of the Tulsa State Fair, the first thing that comes to mind might be livestock exhibitions, fair rides, and more fried food than you can shake a stick at. But amid the 11-day maelstrom of food and fun are some unexpected gems. Did you know that the Oklahoma State Sugar Art Show is considered to be one of the most influential cake events in the world? It was time for me to wake up and smell the fondant when I sat down with Kerry Vincent, the Queen of Cakes herself. Kerry is the...

Episode 3: Chef Kirk Swaby from Gathering Place

September 05, 2018 05:00 - 40 minutes - 18.8 MB

In anticipation of the Sept. 8 opening of the historic park, Anna interviews Kirk Swaby about his work as the Gathering Place's Culinary Executive Chef. Check out TulsaPeople's coverage of the Gathering Place here. More on park dining options: here. Later in the episode, Morgan Phillips tries her hand at indigo shibori during her "What the What?!" segment. Local music featured this episode: "CP's Blues" by Rachel Bachman. Visit the artist's website for more info: click here. Plus, see R...

Episode 2: Michael Broyles with Raise Your Voice!

August 15, 2018 05:00 - 45 minutes - 20.9 MB

As a continuation of our arts education focus this month, Anna interviews Michael Broyles about Tulsa Opera's Raise Your Voice! program, which creates before- and after-school choir opportunities at public schools which no longer offer vocal music during the school day. More on the program: Tulsa Opera Wins Prestigious 2018 Governor’s Arts in Education Award and Raise Your Voice! Later in the episode: Anne Brockman catches us up on what's happening in the Tulsa foodie scene, including th...

Episode 1: Artists in the Schools with Aleks Kitchens

July 31, 2018 05:00 - 41 minutes - 19 MB

Set against the backdrop of continued state cuts to education, Anna interviews Aleks Kitchens about the Artists in the Schools program operated by ahha Tulsa. Later in the episode: What the What?! With Morgan Phillips (literally) catches up with several lunch break joggers braving the Tulsa summer heat for training or recreation. Sources for info about state funding: Oklahoma Policy Institute and Oklahomans for the Arts. Local music featured this episode: "She Had It All" by Weston Ho...

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