In this episode, we finally managed to get our youngest brother Rich on the show--and, for some icing on the cake, we actually recorded the episode on his 27th birthday. Yay! (Also, what? How? When did that happen?)

Rich shares his most life-altering trauma--the situation in which his daughter (and our niece) Laila was taken from him and his then wife Alexis. He discusses what he learned from that experience, and the impact it has on how he parents his children today.

If the starts can align, we hope you'll be hearing more from Rich--including the continuation of this story...because there's a lot we didn't get to. But, regardless, we hope you enjoy hearing this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it!

[TRIGGER WARNINGS: Child Abuse, Child Separation, Toxic Moms, Anxiety]

This episode was recorded on August 19, 2020. Happy Birthday, Rich!!!