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The Thriving Lawyers Podcast

84 episodes - English - Latest episode: 11 months ago -

Welcome to "The Thriving Lawyers Podcast, brought to you by Chris Osborn and Michael Kahn of ReelTime Creative Learning Experiences!  Join us for candid but ultimately inspiring conversations with lawyers from around the U.S. and Canada (and maybe points beyond) who have found ways to truly thrive in the practice of law.   We may even discuss a movie or two, on our never-ending quest for inspiration, motivation, and practical solutions. (That's how Reel Time got started, after all!)

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Alexis Robertson, Director of Diversity & Inclusion, Foley & Lardner, LLP

January 07, 2021 12:30 - 28 minutes - 39.3 MB

Join us for Part 1 of our interview with the intrepid, engaging, insightful, and introspective Alexis Robertson, Director of Diversity and Inclusion for national law firm Foley & Lardner, LLP. You'll be inspired, encouraged, and moved as you hear about her career development as a BigLaw labor & employment litigator, a top shelf legal recruiter, and her current gig as a DE&I professional.

Thriving… While Navigating Early Career Choices

January 07, 2021 12:30 - 28 minutes - 20.8 MB

Join us for Part 1 of our interview with the intrepid, engaging, insightful, and introspective Alexis Robertson, Director of Diversity and Inclusion for national law firm Foley & Lardner, LLP. You'll be inspired, encouraged, and moved as you hear about her career development as a BigLaw labor & employment litigator, a top shelf legal recruiter, and her current gig as a DE&I professional.

Prof. Sean O'Brien, Lawyer for the Wrongfully Incarcerated

August 21, 2020 15:29 - 20 minutes - 27.8 MB

This week, Michael Kahn interviews Sean O'Brien, Professor at Clinical Program Director at the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law. In Part 1 1, Sean shares some of the struggles he faces in representing innocent persons on death row. He describes the immense stress & pressures that come with the work, the challenges of battling the appalling injustices that many people encounter, and how he has been able to keep at it for all these years. Come back next week for pt. 2!

Thriving... While Fighting Systemic Racism and Injustice

August 21, 2020 15:29 - 20 minutes - 15.1 MB

This week, Michael Kahn interviews Sean O'Brien, Professor at Clinical Program Director at the University of Missouri-Kansas City School of Law. In pt. 1, Sean shares some of the struggles he faces in representing innocent persons on death row. He describes the immense stress & pressures that come with the work, the challenges of battling the appalling injustices that many people encounter, and how he has been able to keep at it for all these years. Come back next week for pt. 2!

Thriving... by Utilizing Mindfulness Daily Pt. 2

July 31, 2020 22:18 - 21 minutes - 19.3 MB

Join us for part 2 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.  In the second part of this interview, Michael and Cheyne dive into the importance of accepting and internalizing thoughts and emotions and taking a moment to analyze their source; especially the ones that are unexpected and negative. Cheyne also talks about coping mechanisms and shares some of her favorites. Plus, this episode comes with plenty of book recommendations! 

Cheyne Scott, BigLaw Partner Using Mindfulness Daily (Pt. 2)

July 23, 2020 21:31 - 19 minutes - 26.9 MB

Listen to part 1 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.  In this episode, Cheyne shares some of her personal experiences  dealing with the immense stress of being a lawyer and how she found peace and relief through the practice of mindfulness. Michael and Cheyne also discuss the power of mindset and the importance of focusing only on useful thoughts.  Join us next week for part 2!

Cheyne Scott, BigLaw Partner Using Mindfulness Daily (Pt. 2)

July 23, 2020 21:31 - 19 minutes - 26.9 MB

Listen to part 1 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.  In this episode, Cheyne shares some of her personal experiences  dealing with the immense stress of being a lawyer and how she found peace and relief through the practice of mindfulness. Michael and Cheyne also discuss the power of mindset and the importance of focusing only on useful thoughts.  Join us next week for part 2!

Thriving... by Utilizing Mindfulness Daily

July 23, 2020 21:31 - 19 minutes - 17.9 MB

Listen to part 1 of Michael Kahn's interview with Cheyne Scott, Partner at Chasan Lamparello Mallon & Cappuzzo, PC.  In this episode, Cheyne shares some of her personal experiences  dealing with the immense stress of being a lawyer and how she found peace and relief through the practice of mindfulness. Michael and Cheyne also discuss the power of mindset and the importance of focusing only on useful thoughts.  Join us next week for part 2!

Thriving... in Romantic & Family Relationships Pt. 2

July 17, 2020 20:09 - 25 minutes - 15.8 MB

Listen to part 2 of, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020. Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that many lawyers face...

Chris and Wendy Osborn on Thriving in Marriage (Pt. 2)

July 17, 2020 20:09 - 25 minutes - 34.4 MB

Listen to part 2 of, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020. Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that many lawyers face ...

Chris and Wendy Osborn on Thriving in Marriage (Pt. 1)

July 10, 2020 21:35 - 32 minutes - 44.9 MB

Join us for a 2 part series called, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020. Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that man...

Thriving... in Romantic & Family Relationships

July 10, 2020 21:35 - 32 minutes - 26.9 MB

Join us for a 2 part series called, "Put Away Your Legal Pad: How to Stop Litigating Ourselves out of Good Relationships," excerpted from a webinar that ReelTime presented in conjunction with the ABA during Lawyer Wellbeing Week in May 2020. Special guests include Wendy Osborn (wife of Chris and a counseling intern in her own right), and ReelTime Affiliate and dear friend Dr. Andrea Cochran (D. Psych.). Tune in for a lively, humorous, and insightful exploration of common challenges that ma...

Thriving… as a Black Lawyer in a Tense Time of Protest and Unrest Pt. 2

July 02, 2020 21:33 - 16 minutes - 22.5 MB

In this second part of Michael Kahn's interview with Sidney Evering,  they dive deeper into the issues surrounding the #BlackLivesMatter movement. You won't want to miss Sidney's poignant observations  about what he believes to be the core problem in racial disparities experienced by people of color. Sidney also offer insights into his own experiences as a lawyer of color, and into how he manages to stay hopeful even in the face of continuing challenges and disappointments. 

Thriving… as a Black Lawyer in a Tense Time of Protest and Unrest

June 25, 2020 21:45 - 24 minutes - 33.4 MB

This week Michael Kahn interviews Sidney Evering, a partner in the Columbia, SC office of Parker Poe Adams & Bernstein LLP, and former chair of the firm’s Diversity Committee.  Tune in for Sidney’s poignant and powerful observations on the national outpouring of response to the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery, as well as the increasing light being shined on persistent racial disparities in the American justice system. In part 1, Michael and Sidney cover topics inclu...

Thriving... Through Telling Your Story

June 11, 2020 17:33 - 30 minutes - 29.8 MB

Listen to this week's episode as Michael Kahn interviews Jay Reeves, the owner of Your Law Life LLC, helping lawyers and firms add purpose, profits and peace of mind in their law lives, and author of "The Most Powerful Attorney in the World." Jay shares the power and importance of telling your story (and telling it the right way!) and how it can have an immense impact on each individual and the people around them. 

Jay Reeves, The Risk Man , and perhaps "The Most Powerful Attorney in the World.

June 11, 2020 17:33 - 30 minutes - 44.2 MB

Listen to this week's episode as Michael Kahn interviews Jay Reeves, the owner of Your Law Life LLC, helping lawyers and firms add purpose, profits and peace of mind in their law lives, and author of "The Most Powerful Attorney in the World." Jay shares the power and importance of telling your story (and telling it the right way!) and how it can have an immense impact on each individual and the people around them. 

Thriving… From the C-Suite AND the Dinette Suite Pt. 2

June 04, 2020 17:15 - 21 minutes - 22.6 MB

In this second part of this interview, Sigalle Barness, author of Chief Operating Mommy blog at COO of Lawline, talks with Michael and Chris about the challenges of being a parent, spouse, and legal professional. Sigalle shares candidly about some of the commitments and sacrifices she has had to make in order to successfully grow and sustain her family, career, and personal well-being.   

Sigalle Barness, Lawline & Chief Operating Mommy blog (Pt. 2)

June 04, 2020 17:15 - 21 minutes - 31.3 MB

In this second part of this interview, Sigalle Barness, author of Chief Operating Mommy blog at COO of Lawline, talks with Michael and Chris about the challenges of being a parent, spouse, and legal professional. Sigalle shares candidly about some of the commitments and sacrifices she has had to make in order to successfully grow and sustain her family, career, and personal well-being.   

Thriving… From the C-Suite AND the Dinette Suite

May 28, 2020 21:17 - 25 minutes - 26.6 MB

Today’s guest is our dear friend and ACLEA colleague, Sigalle Barness, Chief Operating Officer of Lawline.com, a nationwide provider of continuing legal education content. In part 1, with her trademark warmth, intellect, and humor, Sigalle shares about her experiences as a baby lawyer, a baby mama, and in helping launch and grow a baby legal education startup.  Tune in to hear some of the lessons she has learned from navigating a fast-paced and rewarding law related career and while navigati...

Sigalle Barness, Lawline & Chief Operating Mommy blog (Pt. 1)

May 28, 2020 21:17 - 25 minutes - 37.5 MB

Today’s guest is our dear friend and ACLEA colleague, Sigalle Barness, Chief Operating Officer of Lawline.com, a nationwide provider of continuing legal education content. In part 1, with her trademark warmth, intellect, and humor, Sigalle shares about her experiences as a baby lawyer, a baby mama, and in helping launch and grow a baby legal education startup.  Tune in to hear some of the lessons she has learned from navigating a fast-paced and rewarding law related career and while navigati...

Cedric Ashley, Coach and NJ Lawyer, on Thriving During a Pandemic

May 21, 2020 21:30 - 18 minutes - 27.3 MB

In this second part of Michael Kahn’s interview with Cedric Ashley, they discuss some of the impacts that COVID-19 has been having on lawyers in their personal and professional lives. Cedric shares some ways to make the most out of the crisis and get through it with a positive and transformative mindset. Also listen as Cedric offers several important points to ponder for any lawyer struggling with career dissatisfaction.  

Thriving… During a Pandemic

May 21, 2020 21:30 - 18 minutes - 19.1 MB

In this second part of Michael Kahn’s interview with Cedric Ashley, they discuss some of the impacts that COVID-19 has been having on lawyers in their personal and professional lives. Cedric shares some ways to make the most out of the crisis and get through it with a positive and transformative mindset. Also listen as Cedric offers several important points to ponder for any lawyer struggling with career dissatisfaction.  

Thriving… While Searching for Career Satisfaction

May 14, 2020 17:17 - 22 minutes - 22.4 MB

Michael Kahn interviews Cedric Ashley, a solo attorney and founder of the Ashley Law Firm in Princeton, New Jersey. Cedric spends a copious amount of time working with lawyers and helping them find meaning and satisfaction in their careers and life. In Part I of the interview, Michael and Cedric discuss the importance of finding a job or practice setting that aligns with your personal values in order to enhance overall quality of life.   Join us next week for part 2!

Cedric Ashley,, NJ Lawyer and Coach on Career Satisfaction

May 14, 2020 17:17 - 22 minutes - 32.7 MB

Michael Kahn interviews Cedric Ashley, a solo attorney and founder of the Ashley Law Firm in Princeton, New Jersey. Cedric spends a copious amount of time working with lawyers and helping them find meaning and satisfaction in their careers and life. In Part I of the interview, Michael and Cedric discuss the importance of finding a job or practice setting that aligns with your personal values in order to enhance overall quality of life.   Join us next week for part 2!

Thriving…While Acclimating to Life as a New Lawyer

May 07, 2020 19:07 - 29 minutes - 32.3 MB

Michael Kahn interviews Alison Cowan, senior director of professional development at Fasken, a leading international law firm based out of Toronto, CA. Alison talks about the importance of cultivating a healthy culture in law firms. She also addresses the challenges that many lawyers go through during the different transition periods of their careers and how to make those shifts easier and less daunting. 

Alison Cowan, Dir. of Professional Development at Fasken

May 07, 2020 19:07 - 29 minutes - 42.8 MB

Michael Kahn interviews Alison Cowan, senior director of professional development at Fasken, a leading international law firm based out of Toronto, CA. Alison talks about the importance of cultivating a healthy culture in law firms. She also addresses the challenges that many lawyers go through during the different transition periods of their careers and how to make those shifts easier and less daunting. 

Derek LaCroix, Exec. Dir. LAP of British Columbia (Pt. 2)

April 30, 2020 19:13 - 26 minutes - 39.1 MB

Part 2 of Michael’s interview with Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia, explores some of the negative mindsets that lawyers can be conditioned into from the start of their careers. Often, lawyers can get caught up in perfectionism and relentless comparison—and they have no idea that many of their colleagues are stuck in the same mental traps. Tune in to learn practical strategies for dealing with negative self-talk and hyper- self-criticism...

Thriving… While Surrounded by Self-doubt

April 30, 2020 19:13 - 26 minutes - 16.2 MB

Part 2 of Michael’s interview with Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia, explores some of the negative mindsets that lawyers can be conditioned into from the start of their careers. Often, lawyers can get caught up in perfectionism and relentless comparison—and they have no idea that many of their colleagues are stuck in the same mental traps. Tune in to learn practical strategies for dealing with negative self-talk and hyper- self-criticism...

Derek LaCroix, Exec. Dir. LAP of British Columbia (Pt. 1)

April 23, 2020 20:05 - 22 minutes - 32.8 MB

Michael Kahn interviews our good friend Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia. Tune in to Part 1 to hear Derek’s own story of not-so-much thriving early in his career, and then ultimately learning practical strategies for dealing with the stress and pressures of practicing law.  Michael and Derek discuss several “mindset” shifts and practical tools that all lawyers can use to enjoy greater professional and personal fulfillment. Come back nex...

Thriving... with Practical Tools and Strategies from LAPs

April 23, 2020 20:05 - 22 minutes - 13.6 MB

Michael Kahn interviews our good friend Derek LaCroix, Executive Director of the Lawyers Assistance Program of British Columbia. Tune in to Part 1 to hear Derek’s own story of not-so-much thriving early in his career, and then ultimately learning practical strategies for dealing with the stress and pressures of practicing law.  Michael and Derek discuss several “mindset” shifts and practical tools that all lawyers can use to enjoy greater professional and personal fulfillment. Come back ne...

Chris & Michael on Thriving... While Grieving?

April 10, 2020 20:54 - 27 minutes - 39.5 MB

Pain and loss--in the many different forms they may show up--are an unavoidable aspect of life, and dealing with them can be immensely draining. Listen in as Chris and Michael chat about the impact that grief can have on lawyers in particular, and practical tools for healing and growing through the grieving process.

Thriving... While Grieving?

April 10, 2020 20:54 - 27 minutes - 26.1 MB

Pain and loss--in the many different forms they may show up--are an unavoidable aspect of life, and dealing with them can be immensely draining. Listen in as Chris and Michael chat about the impact that grief can have on lawyers in particular, and practical tools for healing and growing through the grieving process.

Thriving in the Midst of Turmoil: A Conversation with Chris Osborn

April 10, 2020 20:15 - 26 minutes - 38.1 MB

Michael Kahn interviews Chris Osborn about his roundabout road to becoming a small firm lawyer and continuing education presenter. Tune in for a healthy dose of laughter, tears (well, referred to, if not actually shed, during the recording), and encouragement for any lawyer who has encountered challenges in discovering where they best fit within the legal profession. 

The Thriving Lawyers Podcast: What's it all About?

April 10, 2020 18:25 - 24 minutes - 35.8 MB

Welcome to the Thriving Lawyers Podcast. Meet your hosts Chris Osborn and Michael Kahn of Reel Time Creative Learning Experiences. In this episode, Michael and Chris discuss their hopes and purpose for launching this podcast, and what you can expect in future installments. Michael also recounts his journey from practicing lawyer to mental health therapist to his current work  helping lawyers improve their personal and professional satisfaction.

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