Sustainababble
286 episodes - English - Latest episode: over 1 year ago - ★★★★★ - 120 ratingsA funny podcast about the environment, sustainability, and all the total guff people talk in the name of saving the planet.
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#183: Gillian Burke meets Sustainababble
July 26, 2020 21:13 - 57 minutes - 73.4 MBThe BBC's Springwatch is a cultural institution in the UK, showcasing the extraordinary but often overlooked wildlife of these crumbling isles with warts 'n all realism (i.e. lots of baby Blue Tits getting munched). Biologist Gillian Burke has for three years been at the heart of the show's presenting team, earning the nation's affection for her passion and powers of communication as much as for her unblinking resolve in the face of uncooperative protagonists and innuendo-tastic co-presenters...
#182: Roman Krznaric meets Sustainababble
July 20, 2020 00:26 - 46 minutes - 59.1 MBAre you being a good ancestor? Are WE being good ancestors? What the hell is a good ancestor and do I have to buy them a present? Public philosopher Roman Krznaric thinks these are the most important questions we should ask ourselves (well, certainly the first two) if we're to escape the 'tyranny of the now', the hideous short-termism dominating our lives and knackering the planet in the process.His new book ('The Good Ancestor: How to think long term in a short term world') explains how our ...
#181: Litter
July 12, 2020 21:09 - 40 minutes - 50.1 MBThe instant we were allowed out again we covered everything in rubbish: plastic and cans and humous packets and, er, cool boxes and chairs. Why? Has four months of lockdown made us all beserkers, or is this just what it's always like and we'd forgotten? Who's doing the littering anyway? And what even IS litter? We investigate. Also, the Government's promising to give us cash to insulate our homes, which sounds like a good thing. And governments doing good things make us very suspicious i...
#180: Being Ecofriendly
July 05, 2020 23:03 - 44 minutes - 50.5 MB"Smash capitalism" is among the least helpful answers people like Dave and Ol give when asked "So what should *I* do to help the planet?". But for most campaignery types, individual lifestyle change plays second or third fiddle to political action and corporate restraint. And - if we're completely honest - we're also luke-warm about personal behaviour change because so many of its proponents are such... hard work. You know, people who tilt their heads to one side and pity the poor soul yet to...
#179: Footballers
June 28, 2020 20:33 - 45 minutes - 56.3 MBModern footballers eh? Spoilt, obscenely rich, carbon-guzzling narcissists who couldn't spell planet, let alone save it. They're an open goal for moralising and high-handery, or at least must have seemed so to the UK Health Secretary when he pooh-poohed players' high pay at the pandemic's outset (omitting, accidentally no doubt, to pass comment on the wages of hedge fund managers or the like).Well, we in Babble towers don't buy that. We're unapologetic disciples of the beautiful game, for all...
#178: Jonathon Porritt meets Sustainababble
June 21, 2020 22:03 - 50 minutes - 59.6 MBIf you've taken so much as a passing interest in environmentalism in the UK, you'll have doubtless encountered the campaigner and writer Jonathon Porritt.Since the '70s he's been at the forefront of the wider green movement: prominent in the Ecology party (what became the Green party), running Friends of the Earth, advising the UK Govt and the likes of Kelloggs & Unilever how not to be gits, and now working with the school strikers.Raising eyebrows in the process, he also had a crack at persu...
#177: Q&A
June 14, 2020 20:13 - 48 minutes - 59.4 MBYou asked, so we filibustered, obfuscated and prevaricated. That's right, just 177 episodes in we've dared to switch from 'broadcast' to 'dialogue' with the babble army, actively soliciting questions from our band of wise and forgiving listeners.We've hand-picked a tasting menu of succulent enquiries from the smörgåsbord submitted. Some are silly, some serious, but all are certified 100% free from sustainababble or inhofery. We're confident your bouche will be amused.Thanks to everyone who to...
#176: Nappies
June 07, 2020 16:57 - 47 minutes - 60.7 MBPoor wee infants can't help it but they *do* produce an awful lot of poo and wee. Ol should know, he's got two of the little, er, darlings. Problem is, said effluvia ends up in nappies (diapers), overwhelmingly 'disposable' ones - thousands of them per child. And the nappies end up in the ground, or being burned to make noxious air for us all to breathe. Yuck. What's a sleep-deprived tree-hugging parent to do? Fresh from his 1,045th day without enough sleep, Ol takes Dave slowly through...
#175: Swifts
May 31, 2020 21:25 - 38 minutes - 48.1 MBSwifts: bloody 'ell. The weight of a Creme Egg, Apus Apus spend their entire lives in flight; eating, sleeping and shagging on the wing before popping 6,000 miles north to a European roof for a rest and a spot of breeding.As evocative of British summers as drunk men fighting, screeching Swifts have returned to our skies and are bloody noisy - unless and until Ol gets his microphone out, of course.So with World Swift Day coming up (7 June) we get straightforwardly misty-eyed about these avian ...
#174: No More Cars
May 25, 2020 07:27 - 44 minutes - 54.7 MBA car-free future is hurtling our way faster than even the most ardent greenies dared dream, pre-Covid. Backed into a corner by a pandemic that simply refuses to stop being a dick, mayors throughout Europe are rapidly closing major roads to cars and building cycling infrastructure quicker than you can say “Eddy Merckz ate my chamois cream”. So momentous is this development that Dave even went out on his bike to see the transformation taking place in the city formerly known as Stinky London,...
#173: Pangolins
May 17, 2020 20:35 - 47 minutes - 64.7 MBWhat the world needs in these troubled times is someone to blame. A scapegoat or, in this instance, a scapepangolin.For it turns out everyone's favourite curly, scaley, insect-snuffling-y, heavily trafficked nature weirdos are very much in the dock for unleashing Covid-19 on the world. But is all as it seems? Dave has read some SCIENCE, and reveals all. Also this week, an absolute thug of a plant. If you encounter Giant Hogweed, for pete's sake just give it whatever it wants and back away qu...
#172: The BBC
May 10, 2020 20:17 - 43 minutes - 63.8 MBCentral to British cultural life, if not quite as dominant as it once was, the Beeb still solicits widespread affection, a refuge of familiarity in these strange times. But many a spleen is vented over Auntie's perceived leftyness or rightyness, and its impartial, 'balanced' editorial stance in news reporting is frequently the subject of attack or riducule, not least in coverage of climageddon. So what really goes on when an angry man in a shed complains, and how exactly does celebrity clim...
#171: Mark Lynas meets Sustainababble
May 03, 2020 22:49 - 44 minutes - 40.5 MBIf the global pandemic is leaving you wanting more on the existential angst front, try dipping into chapter 6 of journalist and former activist Mark Lynas' new book, 'Our Final Warning', where you'll read that at six degrees of global heating "a wave of mass extinctions threatens life on earth". Theeeeeeere we go, that's the good stuff.The book, to an extent an updated version of 2007's groundbreaking 'Six Degrees', describes the most recent scientific understanding of what we can expect if c...
#170: Virus
April 09, 2020 15:17 - 49 minutes - 45.2 MBLook, we were supposed to be on a break, but then the world broke. So we're back for a remotely-recorded Covid special. Fair to say this virus lark presents a few challenges on the chuckle front. But despite all the mayhem there are as always Inhofes to be fingered and green shoots of optimism to be nurtured. We roll up our sleeves. Should we truck any sympathy with polluters trying to capitalise on it all? Are you a git if you're happy about the cleaner air and the rampaging goats? An...
#169: Stop
March 08, 2020 22:20 - 37 minutes - 34.3 MBShriek! One of us no longer works for an environmental charity. Is this the end? A more reflective / fewer-knob-jokes episode than usual. What happens when trying to change stuff gets all a bit bloody exhausting? How do we know whether anything we're doing is making the tiniest bit of difference? And - look, we KNOW it's a mid-life crisis, all right? Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble lo...
#168: Who Owns England?
March 01, 2020 18:20 - 47 minutes - 43.7 MBIt's all very well wanting to plant trees everywhere and stuff like that but you need to own the land first. And we don't. Not only that, we don't even really know who does. But one man knows more than most. Superstar activist Guy Shrubsole spent a very long time digging into who actually holds the deeds to England's green and pleasant land and what he found was proper scandalising. In 2019 his book, Who Owns England, took the papers by storm - both left- and right-wing ones, for differen...
#167: Kate Pankhurst meets Sustainababble
February 23, 2020 22:58 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBChildren's author and illustrator Kate Pankhurst often finds herself addressing classrooms of kids, so she was completely at home chatting to Dave and Ol about her new book, Fantastically Great Women Who Saved The Planet.As the names suggests, the book bigs up a host of incredible women from around the world who have done more than most to stand up for mother Earth. Some are household names, but many aren't, despite their planet-saving (s)heroics.We ask Kate whether that's kinda the point of ...
#166: Chlorine Chicken
February 16, 2020 23:51 - 39 minutes - 36.5 MBNow that we've Br-ucked Off, Blighty can look forward to supermarkets chock full of chlorine-drenched poultry. Lucky us (lucky chickens).Why? Because that's how chickens are made in America, goddammit, and Donald Trump smells a finger-lickin' opportunity to sell stinky US chooks to a market newly liberated from Yerp's pesky animal welfare standards.Obviously that's about as far as our understanding of trade goes, so we got someone in to tell us more. Returning guest Sam Lowe (see babble #42),...
#165: Wildfires
February 10, 2020 00:01 - 40 minutes - 36.8 MBAustralia's terrifying bushfires have made the climate emergency seem very real and very immediate. They've forced people everywhere to join the dots in ways previous 'yes obviously it's climate change' disasters haven't. Why? Does it really take a billion animals going up in smoke for people to give global apocalypse more than a passing thought? And is anything going to be different now, politically?Also this week, some truly biblical insect news from East Africa and a newspaper proving that...
#164: Climate Assembly
February 03, 2020 01:15 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBIn a hotel room in Birmingham, one hundred ordinary people are doing something rather extraordinary. For four weekends, members of the UK's Climate Assembly are discussing - in a polite, constructive, and very un-2020 way - how on earth we achieve what the UK government has decided we will achieve, i.e. naff all climate pollution in 30 years time.What's really special is that these people are not yoghurt weavers like Dave and Ol. They represent a cross-section of society, including climate sc...
#163: Jonathan Rowson meets Sustainababble
December 29, 2019 22:40 - 52 minutes - 48.1 MBChess Grandmaster Jonathan Rowson won the British Championship three times and has been the no.1 player in Scotland for basically ever. He's so clever, he's got a PhD in 'Wisdom'. That sounds like a joke but it isn't.Jonathan has written extensively about what it is in our heads and our societies that stops us being wiser, and is director of Perspectiva, an organisation that inspires Important People to examine real world problems with a deeper appreciation of the influence of our inner world...
#162: Sustainabauble 2019
December 22, 2019 19:10 - 34 minutes - 32 MBWe don't want a lot for Christmas - there is just one thing we need: piles of festive eco-guff underneath our (potted, reusable) Christmas tree. Make our dreams come true! Let us share this year's Sustainabauble with you. Happy Babblemas. Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid Arthur Stovell. Ecoguff read out by Arabella. Love the babble? Bung us a few pennies at www.patreon...
#161: Five More Years
December 13, 2019 18:56 - 34 minutes - 31.4 MBElection 2019, then: Tories. LOTS of Tories. Boris is as delighted as pig in a massive pile of poo, and has carte blanche to sodding well do whatevs - including to the planet. Crikey, and indeed, Moses. What on Earth does all this mean for, well, Earth? Will the good green stuff the Tories promised ever actually happen? Is this the end for the climate movement? And if you're feeling a bit soggy and limp about it all, what's to do next? Dave and Ol haven't really been to bed, but the Bab...
#160: Orcas
December 08, 2019 23:01 - 38 minutes - 34.8 MBIt's possible that a terrifyingly high proportion of babble listeners haven't seen Free Willy, which, if the case, is truly appalling. Not being alive in 1993 is NO EXCUSE.Anyway, it's a film about an orca, and orcas - killer whales - are extraordinary beings, but beings we know bugger all about. So we decided to interview someone who knows rather more.Enter Shilpa Shah, strategist and blogger for the wonderful Orca Guardians organisation in West Iceland. Shilpa is, by her own admission, comp...
#159: Advertising
December 02, 2019 00:08 - 42 minutes - 38.5 MB"The gentle art of persuading the public to believe that they want something they don’t need", so a 1905 definition goes. Selling in 2019 is basically the same, except now there's the added by-product - yay! - of hastening planetary self-combustion.But what's it actually like selling stuff you know is bad news? Can the ad industry - increasingly staffed by the eco-anxious, after all - use its dark arts to save the planet? And is Mad Men basically a documentary?We natter to recovering ad man, ...
#158: Floods
November 24, 2019 22:54 - 36 minutes - 33 MBBits of northern England have been inundated by floodwater in recent weeks. Even the perpetually soggy Venice has managed to get somehow more underwater.It's grim as hell, flooding, made worse by the politicians stopping by with a mop and hi-vis. Grim, but not unpredictable. So why is everyone still reporting these events as if they're out of the blue? Shouldn't we start assuming they're going to happen more regualrly, and get our preparative shit together accordingly?Also this week, manifest...
#157: Tories
November 17, 2019 22:22 - 42 minutes - 38.5 MBChances are, if you listen to this podcast you're a bit of a lefty. And that's fine. And we are too.But lefties surely can't claim a monopoly on environmentalism, can they? There are plenty of non-lefties who say they care just as much about the planet, after all.So, in a demonstration of BBC-standard impartiality, we decided to interview an Actual Tory. It's only been 157 episodes, after all.Step forward Sam Hall, director of the Conservative Environment Network and former aide to Michael Go...
#156: Fireworks
November 10, 2019 23:30 - 35 minutes - 32 MBWhizz! Bang! No, not BoJo's pillow talk, but the sound of millions of home explosives polluting the sky and making pets' insides go gooey. With the annual Guy Fawkes celebration now behind us, we ask if it might be time to ban yet another thing that's fun.Also this week, seismic news in fracking world: it's actually been banned in England! We pause to celebrate this epic win, and thank the people who made it happen.Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music b...
#155: Beavers meet Sustainababble
November 03, 2019 16:53 - 45 minutes - 42 MBIn this special episode, Dave and Ol leave stinky London behind and head off to rainy, muddy Cornwall to try to meet some actual beavers. Without wellies. It's been 400 years since the humble but sodding impressive beaver was wiped out in the UK due to having nice-smelling undercarriages. Now, a handful of rewilders are starting to reintroduce them - including organic farmer, sausage chaser and beaver fancier, Chris Jones. With the help of Babble listener extraordinaire Abi, we visited Ch...
#154: Eating Insects
October 27, 2019 22:33 - 40 minutes - 37.2 MBOne day, not very far from now, we might look back at 2019 and think it incredibly weird that people weren't stuffing their gullets with cockroaches.Insects, we're increasingly told, are a fantastic source of animal protein without all the planet-f*ckery associated with meat production. But is anyone actually OK with eating loads of crunchy, spikey, crawly things? Does a bag of salted crickets compare favourably to pork scratchings? Happily, Ol is prepared to find out, so listen on to discove...
#153: What’s next?
October 20, 2019 22:02 - 37 minutes - 34.7 MBEven by recent high standards, some crazy big stuff is happening at the moment. Br- is about to actually -exit (or not), a general election is imminent (or isn't) and it's all so fast-moving that it will (or won't) have resolved between this week's babble being recorded and published. What *is* clear is that the planet continues to be imperilled and fixing it should be top of everyone's agenda, but isn't, largely because of all the uncertainty.WHAT ON EARTH'S GOING TO HAPPEN? We speculate, wi...
#152: BP vs the RSC
October 13, 2019 22:10 - 40 minutes - 5 MB"Time shall unfold what plighted cunning hides: Who cover faults, at last shame them derides" said Cordelia in King Lear.Words with which the Royal Shakespeare Company are presumably familiar, and a sentiment that was perhaps front of mind when they recently told BP to shove their sponsorship dosh where the sun shineth not.Kierra Box, from activist group 'BP or Not BP?' joins us to explain how a bunch of stage-invading, ruff-wearing hippies gave the RSC no choice but to dish out a spectacular...
#151: Fusion
October 06, 2019 22:27 - 38 minutes - 35.6 MBBoris Johnson has promised - PROMISED! - that good ol' Blighty is going to produce infinite clean energy within two decades. That's right, 'nuclear fusion' is just around the corner! But, er, is it really? And more importantly, what the HELL is nuclear fusion?Also this week, pine martens join the war on grey squirrels, and the poor loves at Cuadrilla retreat from Lancashire with tails between their legs. Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legen...
#150: Greta
September 29, 2019 17:41 - 37 minutes - 34.4 MBProdigiously popular. Terrifyingly tenacious. Brilliantly bold. No silly, not Dave and Ol - we're talking about the globe-conquering, Inhofe-silencing Greta Thunberg. We investigate how come an upstart teenager from Sweden has tipped the global climate debate on its head. Isn't it all a bit - let's face it - odd? (in a good way). Are we right to pin so much of our hopes on her? And what happens when she's old enough for her haters to hate her to her face? Meanwhile the UK Labour party ...
#149: Naomi Oreskes meets Sustainababble
September 22, 2019 18:51 - 41 minutes - 37.8 MBWe chat to an actual proper Harvard Professor, blessed with a brain as large as her laugh. Author, activist and splendid person Naomi Oreskes - crusading scourge of Inhofes everywhere - tells us why we should trust science (spoiler: because it's science). In a giggle-packed natter, Dave and Ol learn all about how science is done when it's done properly, how come so many Americans think climate change is a communist lie, and what you should do if your dentist smells of pork. All this, and ...
#148: Trees
September 15, 2019 20:20 - 42 minutes - 39 MBWhen we go away the Amazon burns down, Boris Johnson becomes king, and London gets as hot as a farting hippo's bottom. Sorry about that. Now. Everyone's saying we need to plant more trees everywhere, which would be fine if we stopped torching and chopping down the ones we had. Have we got any hope at all of planting (at least) half a billion more trees? Does it let Big Oil off the hook if we do? And is the world ready for Dave's soggy willows? We investigate. All this, and some proper che...
#147: Cycling
May 19, 2019 21:59 - 47 minutes - 43.2 MBBasically all of us learn to ride a bike, but vanishingly few grown-ups regularly cycle, especially in 'car is king' Blighty.So why is pootling around on two wheels such a niche pursuit, when the benefits and beneficiaries are so varied? And are cyclists the red-light jumping, pavement-bothering lycra zealots the press would have you believe, or just, y'know, humans who ride a bike every now and then?We discuss.Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by th...
#146: Nature Crisis
May 13, 2019 00:09 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBSomeone needs to tell the UN to stop writing reports on the state of the planet. Their latest lolzfest, hot on the heels of 2018's IPCC report (aka 'Seriously, climate change is awks'), says humans are threatening A MILLION species with extinction. Tally ho!Fear not though, even in this bleakest of topics, babble was saught and - by jove - babble was found.Also this week, encourging news on the do-people-give-a-shit barometer, as a recording of birdsong soars up the UK charts and Australian v...
#145: Emergency
May 06, 2019 22:46 - 39 minutes - 35.9 MBHeavens to betsy! The UK parliament has declared a 'Climate and Ecological Emergency'. Amazing, impressive, Extinction Rebellion-vindicating stuff. But, er, so what? And what now? And does it make those wonks telling the UK to eradicate (ish) emissions by 2050 wildly ambitious, hopelessly weedy, or somewhere in between?Also this week, Gammons getting angry with Percy Pigs, McDonalds customers failing to suck it up, and Chris Packham's majestic response to phallic abuse.Sustainababble is your ...
#144: Fashion
April 22, 2019 07:02 - 41 minutes - 38.2 MBOur clothes say a lot about who we are, but they also say "SCREW YOU, PLANET!" more often than not. Yup, clothes and fashion - like so many nice things - have some eye-watering environmental price tags.We peruse.Also this week, an update on the mega protest that is Extinction Rebellion, and some bizarre Babble-flattery from Shell.Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid Arthur Sto...
#143: Glaciers
April 14, 2019 23:16 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBGlaciers are shrinking, which is not good. Not good for glaciers, not good for people who like sea levels just the way they are, and certainly not good for those keen to avoid literal AVALANCHES OF SHIT emerging from newly slushy ice.We pontificate.Also this week, eggs, Shell, and cars all making the news for reasons of varying smelliness. Sustainababble is your friendly environment podcast, out weekly. Theme music by the legendary Dicky Moore – @dickymoo. Sustainababble logo by the splendid ...
#142: Right to Repair
April 07, 2019 22:14 - 40 minutes - 36.6 MBYou're probably listening to this podcast on a device that's deliberately designed to break in not very long and will be nigh on impossible to tinker with when it does.Gone are the days when a bit of blu-tack and a fair wind ensured your prized possessions outlasted most relationships. We live in a world restless to upgrade our shiny new things to shinier, newier things. Why is that? What does it mean for the planet? Might there be - perhaps surprisingly - some environmental upsides?Clever pe...
#141: Clusterf**k
March 31, 2019 21:18 - 40 minutes - 36.6 MBIt's fair to say Brexit isn't going superbly. Recent goings on in the UK parliament have redefined the very notions of chaos, calamity and - yes - clusterf**kery.All very well, but it rather begs the question: if politicians can't sort out something as simple* as buggering off from yerp, how in the name of all that is holy are they going to fix climate change? Is the political system remotely up to this challenge, and if not, what then?Also this week, some massive Inhofes putting birds in equ...
#140: Recycling
March 24, 2019 21:06 - 40 minutes - 36.8 MBOf the zillion eco topics we've covered on this podcast, none come any more 'I like to think I do my bit' than recycling. You know the drill:You: "GLOBAL CLIMATE BREAKDOWN INSECTAGEDDON AAARGGHH!"Your auntie: "Well darling, I always recycle my Daily Mail".Probably the one thing we can all agree on is how sodding confusing it is. Can plastic bags be recycled? Doesn't it all go to China? Should I bother rinsing my hummus pot when No. 62 routinely shove half a dead dog in their green bin?We chat...
#139: Birthstrike
March 17, 2019 22:17 - 39 minutes - 36 MBWould you forgo having children because the future looks too bleak? A growing group of 'birthstrikers' have decided just that, speficially declaring "not to bear children due to the severity of the ecological crisis and the current inaction of governing forces in the face of this existential threat". It's clearly the most profound of personal decisions, woven through with complexity and heartache. To understand more about what Birthstrike is - and isn't - we talk to Alice Brown, long time li...
#138: Hygiene
March 10, 2019 23:26 - 41 minutes - 38.4 MBAre we too clean? Is Ol clean enough? Should we stop using bog roll to save the planet? All these - ahem - burning questions and others are answered in a hygiene special this week.
#137: Is Fracking Dead?
March 03, 2019 14:30 - 39 minutes - 36.6 MBDespite years of effort, bottomless pockets, and unwavering state backing, there's still nothing resembling a fracking industry in the UK. And for Cuadrilla, INEOS & co, things have been getting worse of late - earthquakes, crappy test results, trouble with the locals, not to mention a Government - outrageously! - failing to bend to their every will. At some point, surely, the flush is bust. So when can we call it? When can we whisper that fracking might actually be dead? Or is that a hopel...
#136: School Strikes
February 24, 2019 23:18 - 31 minutes - 29 MBChildren, not thrilled about a dying planet and a compromised future, are rising up. In less than six months, one 15 year old's lone protest outside the Swedish parliament has snowballed into global classroom walk-outs. The #schoolstrike4climate's central message is that grown-ups need to start taking climate change seriously. Senior politicians, rather brilliantly making the strikers' points for them, have responded with sulky putdowns and verbal pats on the head. So what to make of all th...
#135: Asad Rehman meets Sustainababble
February 11, 2019 00:44 - 39 minutes - 36.4 MBAsad is, according to his twitter bio, a "general activist against all bad things". And then some. Currently the Executive Director of anti poverty charity War on Want, for 10 years Asad led Friends of the Earth's international climate work, putting justice and the voices of the global South at the heart of civil society's demands during UN climate talks. We chat to Asad about his decades of anti-racism activism, the failings of the environment movement and what can be done about it, and wh...
#134: Green New Deal
February 06, 2019 23:15 - 38 minutes - 35.4 MBA new band of young Americans is organising to get the planet out of a death spiral and give decent jobs to people in the process. Hooray! The central demand - a 'Green New Deal' - is as ambitious as anything Roosevelt came up with, and spearheaded by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a working class, socialist, woman of colour born in - gulp - 1989. Very much *not* Al Gore, in other words. We probe, ponder, and postulate this new phenomen, but mostly try not to get depressed about how everyone is ...