Hi lovely,

I have a fascinating episode for you today!

I got to speak to Margee Kerr and Linda Rodriguez McRobbie about their new book, ‘OUCH!: Why Pain Hurts, and Why it Doesn’t Have To’. 


In this episode, we talk about:

Why pain isn’t all bad and how we can develop a healthy relationship with it
Resilience as a skill - something we can practice and cultivate over time
Why we need to come up with a bigger vocabulary for pain (because one word is used to describe so much!) 

Heartbreak and why it hurts so much
How we can support our loved ones when they are in pain
And so much more!


I loved this conversation with Margee and Linda. 

Really hope you enjoy it too!

Order your copy of ‘OUCH!: Why Pain Hurts, and Why it Doesn’t Have To’ for the UK, Aus and US.

Love, Vicki x