'If the 5 trillion spiders in the Netherlands took to eating humans rather than insects, they'd consume all Dutch people in just three days.'

Not a nice thought, especially if you have a spider phobia but that was the Tweet that led me to today's guest and our discussion of phobias.

My guest is Dr Celin Gelgec, a clinical psychologist based in Melbourne, who specialises in anxiety and all of the different ways in which it manifests and challenges us, including phobias! Celin is a Senior Clinical Psychologist & the Director of the Melbourne Wellbeing Clinic. She works with children, adolescents, and adults who experience Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and anxiety disorders, as well as secondary depression.

In this episode Celin and I talk about phobias but we also venture into her favourite topic, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

My questions to Celin...

•What are phobias?
•Do we all have them?
•What causes them?
•Are some phobias innate? Or do we learn them?
•When do they become more than harmless?
•What are the symptoms and effects?
•What are some of the more common phobias?
•And how do we treat phobias?

We also explore...

•Obsessive Compulsive Disorder - What is it? And can you really be 'a little bit OCD?'
•The role of thoughts and emotions in anxiety and OCD
•The logic defying nature of the human brain
•And more!

For a heavy topic this is such a light hearted and fascinating interview and a great reminder that worries and fears plague us all but knowing why helps us to overcome them.

For a full transcript, guest profile, expert tips and the resources mentioned in this episode, visit potential.com.au/podcast or join the conversation on Facebook, Instagram or Twitter

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