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Never by the Book

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Kelly Schols invites guests from across the globe to share their ‘Never by the Book’ life lessons. Each episode is packed with dynamic conversation and ‘ah-ha!’ reveals giving listeners a fresh take on what it means to overcome obstacles to build a life of wealth and fulfillment. Kelly Schols is the author of Never by the Book, a story of overcoming alcohol addiction and grabbing the brass rings of success with both hands to become a multi-millionaire by age 40. Today he travels across the globe to inspire others to take control of their finances. Kelly gives people hope that they can achieve financial freedom by becoming debt-free.

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The Turning Point with Dr. Lucette Beall

March 29, 2024 20:00 - 45 minutes - 31.3 MB

I met today's guest on a recent visit to the great state of Texas and learned her incredible story. Dr. Lucette Beall knows what it feels like to hit bottom and rebound to live an extraordinary life. Discovering a devastating breast cancer diagnosis as a newly divorced single mom with no child support then stepping out of her practice to care for her brother after a traumatic brain injury and finding herself near bankruptcy. Today we’ll learn about her turning point and how she was able t...

The Human Design with Justin Judd

February 24, 2024 23:00 - 34 minutes - 23.6 MB

I first witnessed our guest's energy while onstage at a recent conference. He was dynamic, confident, engaging, and the kind of person you can tell at first glance: He’s been through some stuff. Justin refers to himself as a ‘sales savage’  who had taken companies from zero to 1 billion in three years. Wow! He’s vice president of sales and partnerships at CHIIRP, a communication and marketing automation software company in Provo, Utah.  In today’s episode, we dive deep to explore 'The Hum...

I'm in Your Corner Part 3 with Oly Olsen

October 19, 2023 22:00 - 25 minutes - 17.4 MB

Part three of "I'm in Your Corner" is the last episode of my conversation with friend and former business partner, Oly Olsen. Oly talks about living through the symptoms of a mysterious and disabling illness and coming to terms with changes he needed to make in order to get healthy.  We dive deep into our discussion about his work, his family, and his future.  Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

I'm in Your Corner Part 2 with Oly Olsen

October 11, 2023 20:00 - 20 minutes - 14.3 MB

Today I continue my discussion with Oly Olsen, my friend and former business partner. We discuss Oly's determination to be the best of the best as he leaned into the plumbing trade. What drove him to want his name at the top of the chart? Then we talk about his transition to ownership as part of CPI's succession plan. Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

I'm in Your Corner with Oly Olsen (Part One)

October 03, 2023 17:00 - 23 minutes - 16.4 MB

Today I interview longtime friend and business partner Oly Olsen in a series we titled 'I'm in Your Corner'. Oly's story is one of overcoming alcohol and drug addiction at a young age, accepting that academia was not in his future, deciding to become the best plumber that ever lived, and eventually becoming a partner in a multi-million dollar home service enterprise, CPI Plumbing and Heating.  This interview is an emotionally raw and often entertaining ride that I know you'll enjoy. Reach ...

I'm in Your Corner with Oly Olsen

October 03, 2023 17:00 - 23 minutes - 16.4 MB

Today I interview longtime friend and business partner Oly Olsen in a series we titled 'I'm in Your Corner'. Oly's story is one of overcoming alcohol and drug addiction at a young age, accepting that academia was not in his future, deciding to become the best plumber that ever lived, and eventually becoming a partner in a multi-million dollar home service enterprise, CPI Plumbing and Heating.  This interview is an emotionally raw and often entertaining ride that I know you'll enjoy.

From Rags to Riches with Richard Flournoy

August 02, 2023 23:00 - 34 minutes - 23.9 MB

How did a plumber go from one million in debt to a multi-millionaire in less than five years?  In 2019 Richard Flournoy, found himself buried in debt. The business was struggling. He needed help.  Three years later, in 2022, Richard became a multi-millionaire. How did he do it? In this episode, you’ll hear Richard’s inspirational journey starting at age 10 when he worked in his dad’s plumbing business, to starting A-Total Plumbing at age 24. We’ll explore his life-changing experience of r...

Eli Hans and Joseph Bennett with Part 2: Out of the Blue

January 19, 2023 18:00 - 29 minutes - 20.3 MB

I made the acquaintance of  Joseph Bennett and Eli Hans (AKA The Sublime Guys) recently and discovered we have much in common such as views on money, passion to keep things simple, and overcoming obstacles to name a few. In this episode, Part 2, we’ll hear about Eli’s amazing story of dealing with a life-threatening illness, and other challenges musically and artfully told in his stage production: Out of the Blue.  If you missed Part 1, The Art of Saying NO, and Doing Less as they relate t...

The Art of Saying No and Doing Less with Joseph Bennet and Eli Hans

December 20, 2022 22:00 - 48 minutes - 33.2 MB

I made the acquaintance of  Joseph Bennett and Eli Hans (AKA The Sublime Guys) recently and discovered we have much in common such as views on money, passion to keep things simple, and overcoming obstacles to name a few. Our discussion is split into two parts starting with the Art of Saying NO, and Doing Less as they relate to spending habits. We’ll also unpack Joseph’s book “The Art of Doing Less”. In Part II we’ll hear about Eli’s amazing story of dealing with a life-threatening illness,...

To Hell and Back with Ed O'Connell Part Two

October 17, 2022 20:00 - 34 minutes - 23.7 MB

Part Two of To Hell and Back begins with Ed O'Connell's recovery from alcohol addiction and embracing help from others. He reaches out to the Service Round Table community to help him climb out of debt in his plumbing business (a whopping 250K). He meets his wife, Rebecca, who becomes indispensable in the success that O'Connell Plumbing becomes. When I first met Ed, the connection was instant.  And it was just because both of us owned successful plumbing companies at the time, our bond went...

To Hell and Back with Ed O'Connell PART ONE

October 11, 2022 20:00 - 22 minutes - 15.5 MB

When I first met Ed, the connection was instant.  And it was just because both of us owned successful plumbing companies at the time, our bond went much deeper. We both had a history of alcoholism that almost killed us. Ed's story is definitely more extreme. It includes homelessness, drug dealing, and service in Vietnam. Our session covers a before and after story of sobriety and the immeasurable personal and professional success that followed. What you'll hear today in Part One of Ed's jour...

Man in the Mirror with Andrew Biernat

September 02, 2022 01:00 - 1 hour - 45.5 MB

After I was first introduced to my next guest, Andrew Biernat, he told my producer, “This guy sounds like me in 24 years!” Which I couldn't help but take as an extreme compliment. Andrew describes himself as an ‘Infectious Energizer,’ Christ follower, devoted husband and father, and The Buffalo Bills #1 Fan. Like me, Andrew has a history of alcohol addiction. Unlike me, he celebrates 7 years sober this week. Congratulations Andrew! Andrew shares the story of when he discovered that he was ...

Expect the Unexpected with Kenny Chapman

August 11, 2022 15:00 - 37 minutes - 25.5 MB

After nearly two years Kenny Chapman and Kelly Schols reunite for another great conversation. Only this time, in person. They're still talking about mindset, but with a new focus and new material. Kenny just published The Six Dimensions of Change 2.0. These two cover a lot of ground within their provocative and engaging banter. Guaranteed to get you thinking about your life and how you live it. Kenny Chapman is an award-winning international speaker, podcaster,, life mastery coach, and entr...

The Strongest Prison Bars are in Your Head with Trish Jenkins

July 08, 2022 22:00 - 53 minutes - 36.7 MB

Trish Jenkins never expected doing her job would land her in prison. Yet Trish learned more in 8 months in prison than in her 20 years in the business world.  After trusting the wrong person, a breach of the Corporations Act meant losing everything, even her family home. Isolated from her husband and 3 little girls and surrounded by criminals, Trish knew she had to master her mind or lose it. In doing so, she developed the "Shift & Lift" Process that changed everything. Today Trish is an a...

Own Your Flaws. Own Your Life. With Megan Absten

June 11, 2022 20:00 - 42 minutes - 29.1 MB

Megan Absten is a former U.S. Paralympic Track & Field Athlete.  After losing her left arm in an ATV accident at the age of 14, she struggled with maintaining her mental health.  After many years of grief and healing and wondering ‘why me,’ she’s learned to own the body she’s in. She approaches her disability with candor, humor, and practicality, using her experience and outlook to help others find hope and self-acceptance. We’ve titled this session with one of Megan’s favorite mantras: Own ...

Need a LIFT? Be willing to SHIFT from the INSIDE OUT with guest Ellen Rohr. PART 2

February 18, 2022 01:00 - 30 minutes - 21.2 MB

In PART 2 of Need a Lift, Kelly and Ellen pick up where they left off. Kelly starts by asking how a plumber was able to get Ellen's attention and win her hand in marriage. Together they cover a lot of ground. Ellen shares her admiration of tradespeople and their value in society. You'll learn about Zoom Drain, Ellen's secret sauce to business success, and much much more. Check out Ellen's books here.  Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

Need a Lift? Be willing to Shift from the Inside Out with Ellen Rohr

February 08, 2022 20:00 - 26 minutes - 18.4 MB

Part One of 'Need a Lift? Be willing to Shift from the Inside Out' with guest Ellen Rohr. Kelly digs in to uncover Ellen's secret to success in founding Zoom Drain, one of the hottest franchises in the home service industry. Ellen is the author of four best-selling business books and regularly shares her knowledge and experience through podcasts, seminars, and magazines like the Huffington Post. You may be surprised to hear Ellen say: "We've got over 100 trucks on order right now." You...

The Power of WEIRD in Business with Dan Utt

November 25, 2021 22:00 - 44 minutes - 30.7 MB

We’ve titled this episode: The Power of Weird in Business with Dan Utt, the self-proclaimed weird guy. Listen in as we talk to people who live outside the box and color outside the lines. As an entrepreneur, brand designer, podcast host, and small business consultant Dan serves as a trainer and coach for workplace leaders. Dan is a unique professional that sees the world (and people) through a very unique lens. He isn’t just a professional, he’s also autistic with a passion for people and c...

ADHD Harness the Power: Part 2 with Tommy Mello

October 07, 2021 21:00 - 23 minutes - 16.4 MB

This is part 2 of ADHD: Harness the Power to Lead Yourself and Others.  Intro as usual then we jump right into the middle of a conversation. Basically, right where Part 1 leaves off. If I were to consider our next guest by name alone, the first word that comes to mind is ‘misnomer’.  Because Tommy Mello is anything but mellow. He is a High Energy superstar who lights up everyone around him with his infectious energy. Tommy Mellow is Owner/Operator, A1 Garage Door Service, the author of  Hom...

PART 1 of 2 ADHD: Harness the Power to Lead Yourself and Others with Tommy Mello

October 06, 2021 18:00 - 21 minutes - 14.5 MB

If I were to consider our next guest by name alone, the first word that comes to mind is ‘misnomer’.  Because Tommy Mello is anything but mellow. He is a High Energy superstar who lights up everyone around him with his infectious energy. Tommy Mellow is Owner/Operator, A1 Garage Door Service, the author of  Home Service Millionaire, and the Host of Home Service Expert Podcast. Tommy has many claims to fame including going from 50,000 in debt to owning a $50 million dollar home service busine...

Take a Walk and Life Can Change with Denisha Tate-McAlister

September 25, 2021 20:00 - 29 minutes - 20.3 MB

Denisha Tate-McAlister is an author, speaker, and consultant who guides her clients to live with intentionality and purpose. We've titled today's episode after a defining moment that occurred in Denisha's life as she took a walk in her neighborhood. Spoiler alert: It’s a bit of a roller coaster ride! Hold on to your headphones! Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

Three Truths I Learned in My Time Travels

September 01, 2021 23:00 - 22 minutes - 15.8 MB

Ivonne Delaflor is a spiritual teacher, speaker, and 17-time author (working on book # 18 by the way). She has traveled to 19 countries and has led such an interesting life that I feel like we could do 20 podcasts together and barely scratch the surface of the unique subjects to discuss. In this episode, Ivonne will share some of her core teachings: how to learn from our past, embrace the power of the present, and have a plan to prepare for the future. But Ivonne says this much more artfully...

From Pills to Purpose: Telling the Real Story with Anita 'AC' Clinton

August 02, 2021 21:00 - 37 minutes - 26 MB

Anita 'AC' Clinton is a speaker, podcaster and entrepreneur who uses her superpowers to work with people who want to undercover their true passions to pursue their divine purposes. In this episode, we learn what ignited Anita's passion to help others find theirs. It's one of those stories that belongs in a movie. Whatever your background, heritage, and no matter what generation you align with, Anita's story will inspire you. Get ready for an inspiring story delivered in a powerful and entert...

Tab Pierce: Big Business Lessons from Big Business Screw Ups.

June 07, 2021 19:00 - 47 minutes - 32.7 MB

How can your biggest screw-up open the door to your greatest business success?  How can the worst day in your life wind up being one of the best? Tab Piece knows the answer. In spades. When finally forced to take a close hard look at his business’s bottom line, Tab was $750,000 deep in debt. On that day he had two choices. Declare bankruptcy or claw his way out of the mess he’d created. Kelly dives right into a straightforward discussion with Tab to uncover the hard lessons Tab learned tryin...

Happiness Solved: Climbing 100 Steps with Sandee Sgarlata

May 01, 2021 00:00 - 37 minutes - 25.9 MB

Sandee Sgarlata, author, speaker, retired US national and international figure skating coach, and certified life coach who has built a career working with people to help them create lasting and significant change. In this episode we discover what makes Sandee tick: we unpack the loss she experienced as a girl, the addiction she struggled with as a young adult, and we find out how she began her quest to find and maintain a sense of peace and happiness in her life. We’ve titled this episode af...

Part Two of The Last Man Standing with Jay Follman

April 11, 2021 18:00 - 22 minutes - 15.7 MB

Part Two continues with guest Jay Follman as he describes a photo that became the inspiration for this episode's title. In the photo are four young men. One of them is Jay.  Three of them were friends whose lives were taken by addiction. Jay continues sharing his life PhD. of wisdom and lessons learned through his road to recovery. Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

Jay Follman: The Last Man Standing: An Addict's Road to Recovery

April 11, 2021 18:00 - 27 minutes - 18.9 MB

Jay Follman is what you might call a rain-maker. He makes things happen. He’s the owner of a multi-million dollar construction company, Industrial Resources, Incorporated with locations in Washington and Alaska. He has served as a volunteer fire-fighter for 30 years. He’s a musician, singer, and loves anything fast and loud. He is a legendary Sprint Car racer. Jay also has a life PhD. in addiction. He has overcome his own challenges and has gone on to help many others with theirs.  This is P...

Mark Matteson: What do you want in life and business? How do you ask for it?

March 02, 2021 22:00 - 33 minutes - 23 MB

Mark Matteson is a mindset guru who comes to Never by the Book with a quick wit,  great story, and a mesmerizing message. Mark is the kind of person everyone needs in their life.  The kind of person who will always lift you up and inspire you to walk forward to embrace your potential. On our 13th episode of Never by the Book, we hope to help our listeners, as Best Selling Author, International Speaker Mark Matteson addresses the answer to these compelling questions: What do you want in life ...

Sylvia Hampel: Me Before #METOO

January 25, 2021 15:00 - 55 minutes - 38.3 MB

Episode 12 of Never By The Book features Sylvia Hampel. We're calling this  episode, “Me Before (Hashtag)  #Me Too.” Sylvia Hampel knows all about adversity and overcoming the odds.  At birth, Sylvia was adopted into an abusive home environment. She started working to earn money for her own clothes at age nine, then, shortly after getting her first job in a fast-food restaurant at age 15, was sexually molested by her supervisor.  As a result, she found herself pregnant as a sophomore in high...

A Bad Boy's Guide to Becoming a Force for Good in the World - Part 3

December 30, 2020 18:00 - 20 minutes - 13.8 MB

If you saw Mark Schols as a kid, you would never have predicted that he'd grow up to be a multi-millionaire and the kind of personal and business mentor you'd want your own kid to have. Instead, you might have predicted he'd be lucky to live past the age of twenty. Mark Schols is Kelly's (slightly) older brother. They have a lot in common.  As kids they were rebellious, unstudious, thrill-seekers. As teens they added on girl-chasing and alcohol addiction.  But in their mid-twenties, both g...

A Bad Boy's Guide to Becoming a Force for Good in the World - Part Two

December 30, 2020 17:00 - 19 minutes - 13.4 MB

If you saw Mark Schols as a kid, you would never have predicted that he'd grow up to be a multi-millionaire and the kind of personal and business mentor you'd want your own kid to have. Instead, you might have predicted he'd be lucky to live past the age of twenty. Mark Schols is Kelly's (slightly) older brother. They have a lot in common.  As kids they were rebellious, unstudious, thrill-seekers. As teens they added on girl-chasing and alcohol addiction.  But in their mid-twenties, both g...

A Bad Boy's Guide to Becoming a Force for Good in the World-Part One

December 30, 2020 02:00 - 34 minutes - 23.5 MB

If you saw Mark Schols as a kid, you would never have predicted that he'd grow up to be a multi-millionaire and the kind of personal and business mentor you'd want your own kid to have. Instead, you might have predicted he'd be lucky to live past the age of twenty. Mark Schols is Kelly's (slightly) older brother. They have a lot in common.  As kids they were rebellious, unstudious, thrill-seekers. As teens they added on girl-chasing and alcohol addiction.  But in their mid-twenties, both g...

Hooked on Habits with Mandy Gill

November 18, 2020 20:00 - 54 minutes - 37.2 MB

Kelly's guest, Mandy Gill is a healthy habits expert. In this episode, Mandy shares how our success or failure all comes down to our habits. Mandy Gill is a health and wellness advocate who is passionate about connecting with organizations and individuals on a personal level to unlock productivity and engagement through incremental habit development practices. She has appeared on various television programs, including as a Health Expert Host on CTV News for over 8 years. As a business builde...

Not TO Me but FOR Me with Kenny Chapman

October 23, 2020 19:00 - 44 minutes - 30.3 MB

This is the second of a three-part interview series with Kenny Chapman, my friend and mentor in which we focus on changing focus as a way to transform one's life. Kenny and I met  10 years ago when Kenny was speaking in front of a huge audience. What hit me like a bolt of lightning was how similar Kenny’s life story was to mine. At that moment, I knew we'd become lifelong friends. Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

To Transform You Must Change Focus

October 23, 2020 17:00 - 28 minutes - 19.4 MB

This is the second of a three-part interview series with Kenny Chapman, my friend and mentor in which we focus on changing focus as a way to transform one's life. Kenny and I met  10 years ago when Kenny was speaking in front of a huge audience. What hit me like a bolt of lightning was how similar Kenny’s life story was to mine. At that moment, I knew we'd become lifelong friends. Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

Reset Your Mindset with Kenny Chapman

October 23, 2020 15:00 - 31 minutes - 21.5 MB

What you’re about to enjoy is the first of a three-part series with my good friend and mentor Kenny Chapman. This episode focuses on mindset. Kenny and I met  10 years ago when Kenny was speaking in front of a huge audience. What hit me like a bolt of lightning was how similar Kenny’s life story was to mine. At that moment, I knew we'd become lifelong friends. Buzzsprout - Let's get your podcast launched! Start for FREE Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. If you make a purchase,...

Escape to Freedom: Courage or Insanity?

September 18, 2020 03:00 - 1 hour - 43.2 MB

Listen to Andrew Popa's gripping account of fleeing Communist Romania in the dead of night when he was 19 years old. Since finding freedom in America, Popa has used his experience to help many others find theirs. Reach out to Kelly Schols @ https://kellyschols.com

From Entrapped to Empowered: Conquering the Confines of Grief

August 13, 2020 19:00 - 37 minutes - 25.5 MB

Kelly Schols interviews Whitney Stuart who experienced a catastrophic personal loss at the age of 8yrs old. That experience made an indelible imprint on her life. Together Kelly and Whitney delve into the psychology of grief, coping mechanisms and the freedom that can be found through feeling the pain and living in the moment. Professionally, Whitney is a nutrition expert; clinical dietitian-nutritionist and Certified Diabetic Educator. Her virtual practice, Whitness Nutrition, educates the...

Write that Book!

July 29, 2020 00:00 - 58 minutes - 40.1 MB

Do you have an idea for a bestseller that’s stuck in your head? If publishing a book is your heart’s desire, then don’t miss this Podcast featuring first-time author Kelly Schols and editor/ghostwriter/consultant, Jason Liller. Together they’ll give you a bottom-line perspective on what it takes to, as Jason puts it, “Turn stream-of-consciousness spaghetti into literary lasagna.” From Kelly you’ll hear the story about the day he finally sat down to write the first draft of Never by the Boo...

The Moment of Sheer Surrender

July 08, 2020 23:00 - 49 minutes - 34 MB

When your life isn’t working and the bottom gets harder each time you hit, what do you do? When do you know it’s time to leave the past behind? When can you believe you’re on a path to hope, happiness and fulfillment? In this Never by the Book episode you’ll hear from alcoholic turned Pastor Jeff Turner of Christ Community Church in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Pastor Turner, a long-time friend of host Kelly Schols, will share his personal journey with addiction, his tipping point to recovery ...