This week I am in conversation with Pupil Premium and vulnerable learners champion Marc Rowland. Marc is a Research School Director, an author and (he wouldn't admit this himself-he's way too modest) an expert on the use of the Pupil Premium.


We discuss the history of PP, the enduring relationship between family income and school success. We look at how thinking on PP has shifted with the recent EEF guide and the new DfE guidance. Marc also confronts some popular myths and misconceptions and gives you some concrete advice to take and action in your schools. 




The questions discussed are:




Talk about ‘updated guide to pupil premium ‘  The measure of a successful education system whether at local or national level should be how its disadvantaged pupils perform - is this measure being used? 


Are we making progress nationally on outcomes for disadvantaged pupils?  


 Do we in discourse obsess on the gap?  


 Imagine you are a listener who has just been appointed Pupil Premium lead , where should their journey of discovery start? What is your test and learn approach for new PP funding activities . 


 Myths to discuss :  Pupil premium funding must be spent on interventions   I must attend courses to improve my knowledge of PP . Most disadvantaged pupils are culturally illiterate and disinterested so we need to take them on an engaging visit to a theme park / farm /ballet?   Only eligible children can benefit from PP spending?All data is good data , in school attainment data by teacher is a good predictor of the gap?  


What are you working on at the moment? Where can listeners find out more ?




Useful links:


:https://researchschool.org.uk/rosendale/news/beware-of-the-matthew-effect/


https://researchschool.org.uk/news/pupil-premium/


https://educationendowmentfoundation.org.uk/evidence-summaries/pupil-premium-guide/


https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pupil-premium-effective-use-and-accountability




Podcast Pedagogy 


This week I am reading Curriculum- Athena versus the Machine. You may not agree with all of Martin's points but you will be stimulated by his arguments. This is a must read for all school leaders .  Martin will be a guest on an upcoming show.




TDT Section 


Maria is discussing CPD excellence hubs with Expert Adviser, Alex Beauchamp. 




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