Mindful Millionaire with Leisa Peterson
129 episodes - English - Latest episode: 5 days ago -Open your mind and expand your possibilities through heart-centered discussions about money, business and mindfulness.
Join host Leisa Peterson, business coach and long-time finance-pro, for inspiring discussions, interviews and commentary that will inspire your mind, warm your heart and solidify your connection with your higher Self. It's the perfect blend of self-mastery, visionary leadership and practical financial wisdom.
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How EMDR Helps Trauma with Amye Cole, LMFT
April 22, 2024 21:44 - 50 minutes - 93.8 MBI am pleased to be interviewing Amye Cole, a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in EMDR therapy. Today, we're discussing EMDR and how it helps with trauma and PTSD. EMDR therapy offers hope for individuals struggling with the lasting impact of traumatic experiences. By processing these memories and moving towards self-compassion and resilience, individuals can experience improved emotional well-being and deeper connections in their relationships. We're exploring: What ...
How a Meditation Podcaster Built an Empire with Katie Krimitsos
April 01, 2024 23:23 - 54 minutes - 67.8 MBExcited to interview Katie Krimitsos about her journey as a long time business owner who has had phenomenal success with creating the Women's Meditation Network. By listening in you'll learn how: -Katie Krimitsos built the Women's Meditation Network, a company with 20 podcasts and over 4 million monthly downloads, by following her passion for writing and meditation. -She made tough financial decisions and invested significant money into production quality and marketing to grow her busi...
The Way Home with Ben Katt
February 14, 2024 21:11 - 25 minutes - 48.3 MBBen shares the journey behind writing his book "The Way Home" after going through a difficult personal period. He discusses the calling he feels to help others "wake up" and live fuller lives, even as he was not tending to his own pain. The conversation explores the hero's journey framework and how Ben weaves his own experience into that, making it relatable for those who feel a sense of "losing their heart" or not living to their full potential. There's an earnestness and gentleness as he e...
Growing a Content Creation Business Fast with The Adventure Addicts - Part 2
February 14, 2024 19:54 - 23 minutes - 43.7 MBPart 2 of this conversation delves into various aspects of what Zoe and Kelby have learned inside of managing a business, including: -Financial Decision-Making -Dealing with Negativity Online -Personal Growth -Mindset in Business -Adapting to Change To follow The Adventure Addicts go to: http://www.instagram.com/the_adventureaddicts On Tiktok @TheAdventureAddicts On Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@the_adventureaddicts #contentcreator #theadventureaddicts
Growing a Content Creation Business Fast with The Adventure Addicts - Part 1
February 13, 2024 21:45 - 28 minutes - 53.5 MBWhen Zoe and Kelby started their Instagram business, they had no idea it would take off like it did and attract over 400,000 followers on Instagram, TikTok and Youtube. What began as a small passion project while working full-time jobs has since grown into lucrative partnerships and opportunities that have profoundly impacted their lives. In this conversation, Zoe and Kelby reflect on the unexpected success of their business and some of the significant milestones along the way. They highligh...
Finding Your Passion Early in Life with Isabella Meadows
July 31, 2023 20:59 - 37 minutes - 70.3 MBIn this episode, Leisa is inviting you to explore the incredible journey of Isabella Meadows, a 20-year-old health coach and founder of The Hearts We Touch. Her escape from an abusive relationship at 17 ignited her passion for empowering young female entrepreneurs. With a holistic coaching approach, she helps women build healthy habits mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, and socially. Isabella's mission extends to launching a non-profit, providing life coaching to underprivi...
Improving Your Messaging with Sage Polaris
November 29, 2022 23:37 - 41 minutes - 28.1 MBToday, I'm speaking with copy-conversion expert Sage Polaris. We're discussing many fun things when it comes to copywriting to increase engagement with your community. As you know, I prefer to get to know the person behind the business and today's conversation is no exception. Enjoy. Sage shares with us her insights: “If things were not that different in the market right now, if there, wasn't inflation. I probably would have done the all-access pass again, and been good with that rig...
Manifesting Your Dreams with Natalie Ledwell
November 16, 2022 18:52 - 33 minutes - 13.5 MBToday, I have a good fortune of interviewing the founder of Mind Movies, Natalie Ledwell. Natalie has been in the self-help genre for many years. She's talking today about the love attraction, about the ability to envision and manifests the things that you most want. Talking about her journey of starting her company, the success that she had and what she's done differently when she has built her business over time. I love this conversation. It was so fun to meet Natalie for the first time an...
Right People, Right Jobs with Gary Walstrom
November 16, 2022 18:42 - 48 minutes - 18.4 MBToday, I'm interviewing Gary Walstrom who is the founder of the company called Culture Index. His company helps companies ensure they have the right people in the right jobs. To do this you as the employer and the employee take a quick quiz and then you meet with experts from Culture Index to help you understand what's going on. Do you have the right person or is there someone else out there that would be better fit. Culture Index was originally born out of a person's desire to help people...
Empowering Yourself with Money with Bari Tessler
October 27, 2022 16:46 - 52 minutes - 20.5 MBI'm so happy to be sharing this conversation with Bari Tessler. Bari's book, The Art of Money: A Life-Changing Guide to Financial Happiness has a new companion book called The Art of Money Workbook. There's just so much depth in the work that Bari teaches in her money relationship-transformational workshops and books. And, today she's talking about the different models inside her business, how her new book came to be and so much more. Enjoy. Bari Tessler, M.A., is a financial therapist...
Follow Up Strategies with Mostafa Hosseini
October 26, 2022 16:39 - 36 minutes - 14.4 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend Mostafa Hosseini. He is talking about follow-up. So if you are a business owner, if you're in sales, if you're in pretty much any kind of business. You work for one or you own your own business. I feel like this will be a helpful conversation especially if an aspect of what you do involves sales. Mostafa is going to talk about the psychology of selling and the importance of follow-up. I love this conversation, so many breakthroughs. I felt like everyone I kn...
Fixing Your Money Mindset with Joyce Marter
October 20, 2022 07:02 - 31 minutes - 12.6 MBToday, I am sharing an interview I had with Joyce Marter. Joyce wrote a book about fixing your financial mindset and she’s a licensed therapist. Her book is a combination of what she's learned in helping people as a therapist and also through her own journey of being a business owner and now a speaker. I appreciate Joyce's vulnerability in sharing you know what it's like to face our issues around money and go on to actually write a book that helps people change their relationship with money....
Successful Growth with Liam Austin
October 18, 2022 20:08 - 36 minutes - 15.5 MBToday, I'm interviewing Liam Austin. Liam is the co-founder and CEO of Entrepreneurs Headquarters/HQ. We are talking about his journey of starting his business about 7 years ago and the success that he had. A phenomenal success like why. We're going to unpack what happened. What allowed him to build a huge email list to be marketing with some of the biggest digital marketers in the world. What did he learn along the way. How has it helped transform him, his business. And also his goal of hav...
Generating Profit From Luxury Short-Term Rentals with Dr. Rachel Gainsbrugh
September 29, 2022 17:36 - 40 minutes - 16.8 MBToday, I'm interviewing Dr. Rachel Gainsbrugh. Rachel is a specialist in luxury short-term rentals. We're talking about her journey of being a pharmacist and starting to invest in real estate. And ultimately realizing that she loved it and wanted to spend more time doing it. She has left her full-time position and does consulting now in the pharmaceutical world. And she focuses on these luxurious short-term rentals, teaching people how to do the same. Such a fun conversation. I know you're g...
Stories That Sell with Lisa Bloom
September 20, 2022 18:03 - 41 minutes - 16.8 MBI'm so happy to introduce you to my guest, Lisa Bloom. Over the last 15 years, Lisa has created her company out of a simple idea. The idea that stories are powerful. They are possibly the most powerful form of influence and persuasion ever. Today, we're talking about mastering the art of storytelling in your business, in your life, how that can show up in ways that it can help you to make a bigger impact to close more sales, to develop trust and so much more. I know you're going to enjoy thi...
Defensive No More with Lisa Merlo-Booth
September 12, 2022 13:57 - 44 minutes - 23.1 MBI'm so happy to share this conversation about overcoming defensiveness with Lisa Merlo-Booth. I’ve had the good fortune to work with Lisa and help her in her business and last spring I offered to help her with a workshop she was hosting. During the middle of this workshop I had a breakthrough that I actually needed this class and we’re talking about what I learned about myself. Lisa is a relationship coach and a specialist in helping improve communication between partners. Her work has impr...
Coaching by Design with Samantha Riley
September 07, 2022 17:28 - 39 minutes - 20.9 MBToday, I'm interviewing Samantha Riley. She's an authority positioning strategist, author, speaker, host of Influence by Design podcast. And, she's built multiple businesses over the past 28 years. Today, we're talking about Human Design and how that fits in to the coaching business she's built. It's a super fun conversation. You've heard me talk about Human Design before in the past. It's something I have found a lot of enjoyment with. It helped me understand myself better as an entrepreneu...
To VA or Not To VA with Molly Rose Speed
August 30, 2022 08:11 - 33 minutes - 14.5 MBToday, I'm interviewing my good friend, past client Molly Rose Speed. She is someone who knows everything you could hope to know being a VA; hiring a VA. She actually does many different things in her business. She has the ability to teach you if you want to become a VA. She can take you down the path of not just getting started but also having clients in like less than a month. She talks about that. Amazing! She also talks about what we want to be thinking about when we hire a VA as a busin...
Exploring the Energy of Money with Dr. Maria Nemeth, PhD
August 17, 2022 06:11 - 44 minutes - 25.8 MBToday, I'm so pleased to be introducing you to Dr. Maria Nemeth. Dr. Maria is a leading expert in leadership excellence, in professional, personal development, and financial empowerment. Her work has been featured on The Oprah Winfrey Show and Inc Magazine. She's the Founder & Director of the Academy for Coaching Excellence and she's the Author of the highly-acclaimed book, The Energy of Money: A Spiritual Guide to Financial and Personal Fulfillment. I walked away from this conversation insp...
Free Choice with Simone and Leisa
August 11, 2022 18:53 - 1 hour - 46.4 MBToday, I'm having a conversation with my friend, Simone Griffin. We're talking about the recent overturning of Roe vs. Wade and some of the considerations that we have in our own lives is the importance of economic freedom for women. Simone and Leisa shares with us their insights: Simone: The more we can stop, quiet the noise, not listen to divide, and figure out - 'Okay, what are you actually; what is your experience; what is your lived experience? I think the better we can do. ...
Taking Stock of Your Life with Dr. Jordan Grumet
August 02, 2022 13:48 - 49 minutes - 30.5 MBToday, my interview is with Jordan Grumet who also goes by Doc G. As a hospice doctor who teaches people and inspires people about their relationship with money, Jordan paved a path to questioning many assumptions about money and the pursuit of happiness. In our conversation, Doc is sharing what he's discovered along his life journey and how that relates to living a better life, to making better choices for yourself and why he decided to write his new book, Taking Stock. I think it is life-c...
Someday When Projects with Kristin Swanson
July 11, 2022 14:12 - 31 minutes - 21.7 MBToday, I'm interviewing Kristin Swanson. Kristin and I are talking about the 'Someday when projects'; how we can bring them into reality. We're going to explore what is this 'someday when' and how do you know if you have one and you're putting it off. And what you can do if you want to take steps to bring it into reality. Super fun conversation. Enjoy. Kristin shares with us her insights: Talking about why do you want this, you know what's the feeling that you want to feel when i...
The Art of Living in Joy with Barry Shore
July 06, 2022 19:01 - 47 minutes - 17.3 MBToday, I'm interviewing Barry Shore. He has an incredibly uplifting story about overcoming difficult circumstances with the health of his body. To go from being bedridden, unable to move the muscles in his body to being able to sit upright, to travel, to speak, to do so many things that make an impact in the lives of others. Hear how he uses joy and love and peace to inspire people through the book that he has written, through the speeches that he gives and through his overall demeanor of h...
Being Mindful about Inflation with Simone and Leisa
June 29, 2022 07:44 - 40 minutes - 17.3 MBToday, I am continuing the series with Simone Griffin. We are talking about inflation today because I feel like it's such an important topic especially when not everyone understands what's going on. We see it at the gas station. We see it at the grocery store. So how can we help ourselves in planning for the shifts that are happening with our money? What can we do to take good care of ourselves financially with so much uncertainty surrounding us? I love talking to Simone about these sorts ...
Finding Prosperity with Gloria Fagbemi
June 23, 2022 13:25 - 1 hour - 22.6 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend and client, Mopelola Gloria Fagbemi. Gloria is an amazing woman who has a very interesting story when it comes to divorce and how that led to finding a job that brings her lots of joy. We get to hear about her experience with meeting Simon Sinek and how that impacted her life, as well as, what she's doing to create greater levels of prosperity in her life. Enjoy. She shares with us her insights: When I told him the money, he, you know, they appro...
Overlooked Revenue Generating Actions with Melinda Cohan
June 15, 2022 08:54 - 40 minutes - 26.2 MBToday, I'm interviewing Melinda Cohan. She's a business coach to coaches. And after she achieved fast success when she launched throne coaching practice in 2014, she became co-founder and CEO of the Coaches Console. Now, a 7-figure software training and coaching company that has helped more than 50,000 coaches create a profitable and thriving businesses. Today, we are talking about money. But mostly, in the context of overlooked revenue- generating activities in your business. Melinda has a ...
Self-Advocacy with Simone Griffin
June 07, 2022 07:59 - 47 minutes - 19.7 MBToday, I'm speaking about self-advocacy with my friend, client Simone Griffin. I've invited Simone to come on the show today to tell us more about herself because we're going to be having more conversations together about money, net worthiness, financial self-care, and so much more. Simone works in the financial services industry and today, we're talking about this advocacy question - how can we take better care of ourselves? What does it look like? And, you'll hear more about Simone and her...
The Energetic Path to Your Next Level with Maii Vu
May 31, 2022 10:46 - 33 minutes - 23.6 MBToday, I'm having a conversation with Maii Vu. She helps business women expand their wealth without sacrificing their private life using systems and processes that she's developed over time. She is from Vietnam and lives in Australia. It so much fun to have this conversation where we talked about how we can activate our potential; manifest way beyond what we might think is possible. She gives some cool tools. And both of us are sharing because we decided to do a swap where this podcast is be...
Hiring a Copywriter with Samantha Burmeister
May 25, 2022 07:16 - 33 minutes - 21.6 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend Samantha Burmeister. Samantha is a copywriter and we are talking about how to be thinking about when you would use a copywriter in your business, how they could help you, what you need to do before you hire someone and how to make sure that when you do you're getting the most from that experience. So enjoy this conversation around messaging. It's really fun to learn more about Samantha, her journey into copywriting, and how this skill of copywriting could he...
Showing up with Sandra Pelley
May 19, 2022 18:08 - 30 minutes - 17 MBToday, I'm interviewing Sandra Pelley who is a very talented spiritual coach. She helps her clients have more compassion towards themselves. We're discussing the ways we're showing up to our lives, showing up for our businesses, becoming more visible and how can you do more of that in your life. I definitely had some breakthroughs and can't wait to hear what you takeaway from it. Enjoy. Sandra shares her insights: And it's because they've been given this space where they can dev...
Journey to Possibility with Charles Rose Jr.
May 02, 2022 20:02 - 38 minutes - 15 MBI have an interview with Charles Rose Jr. Charles grew up in Freeport, Bahamas in a very close-knit family. He has a passion for helping people realize their dreams and one of the ways he does that is through real estate investing. And today, the conversation is really about hearing Charles' story and the things that he overcame to get where he is today. I was very personally touched by his story because I related to it in my own journey of not letting our life circumstances dictate our life...
Membership Program Strategies with Lisa Princic
April 28, 2022 20:26 - 56 minutes - 41.7 MBToday, I'm interviewing Lisa Princic. We're talking about membership and business building and the strategies that we've learned along the way as it pertains to building a community that takes the things that you love to do and what you're passionate about in helping people with and brings all of that into a successful paid membership. I know that you're going to get lots of ideas. I sure did. Enjoy. Lisa shares her insights: So you have to not get overwhelmed by what you're seei...
Living Your Best Life with Linda Claire Puig
April 18, 2022 19:52 - 31 minutes - 20.8 MBToday, I'm speaking with Linda Claire Puig. Linda is long-time coach. She has done amazing things with her business especially around being able to focus on traveling and still doing your business and how you can get more out of life and expand into the life you really want to be living. Today, we're talking about her journey about what she's learned along the way as a coach, some of the breakthroughs that she's had and how she's helping her clients to live their best life. Enjoy. Linda ...
Practical Wisdom with Nicky Dyal
April 14, 2022 05:32 - 39 minutes - 22.8 MBToday, I'm interviewing an exceptional person who I've gotten to know for the past few years, Nicky Dyal. She is a coach and a rock climber. She has taken what she has learned as an extreme athlete and being a professional in that area and channeled it into this transformative work that she does with her clients. Very interesting to learn about how she's channeled her life into her business. So I was so excited to bring her on the show and I know you'll take away a lot from this conversation....
Discovering Happiness Through Cancer with Sucheta Phadke
April 11, 2022 07:00 - 53 minutes - 35.2 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend and client Sucheta Phadke. Sucheta is an amazing learning and development coach, teacher, educator and she's been working with me off and on for several years. And today, I asked her to come on the show because she has been recently diagnosed with breast cancer. When I have the fortune to speak with her amidst her cancer treatments, I was completely spellbound by what she has learned from her cancer journey; how it relates to her as a human being, as a busin...
Beating The Broken Cookie Effect with Patty Block
April 01, 2022 03:06 - 32 minutes - 21.2 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend Patty Block. Patty and I are talking about something very, very near and dear to the hearts of all entrepreneurs. And that is pricing and the dynamics that go into why you may be undercharging and what you can do going forward. What's the mindset shifts that you might have to make. What are the realizations that you want to have as you consider pricing for your services and how does that complement the work that you do. And how that might affect the result t...
When Shifts Happen with Leisa Peterson
March 28, 2022 17:33 - 25 minutes - 18.6 MBToday, I'm shaking things up. I'm having a conversation with you and I'm going to share insight gained from a very unexpected situation that occurred when I was invited to go to GAIA Studios, be interviewed by George Noory. I wanted to tell you the story behind the scenes and the tranformation that has led to from myself and perhaps countless others. Enjoy. Leisa shares with us: And then the series of questions that I gave to George something happened that's quite magical that bumpe...
Enjoying Your Business with Susie Carder
March 22, 2022 13:10 - 48 minutes - 31.3 MBToday, I have my friend, Susie Carder, on the show and she has had quite a history that she's sharing. She ran Lisa Nichols' business for several years then went out on her own. I think she said in 2015, she had several businesses over the years. She is a phenomenal business builder that really knows the strategy on how it takes to have more profit in your company; how to grow exponentially. But we're getting into, not just that part, but the parts that I'd like to talk about which is the fe...
Infusing Your Coaching with the Arts with Owen Ó Súilleabháin
March 15, 2022 21:40 - 44 minutes - 32.2 MBToday, I'm interviewing my friend Owen Ó Súilleabháin who is a coach, performer, and a whole lot more. We're discussing how he uses his experiences as a performer and his understanding of the arts and psychology, and philosophy, and bringing them together into his private coaching practice. How he uses his gifts with high-level CEOs, folks who have achieved incredible success and are looking at bringing their organization to the next level. They team up with Owen as their coach to ask questi...
Why People Buy From You with Stever Werner
March 10, 2022 17:47 - 46 minutes - 29.3 MBToday's conversation is with Steve Werner who's sharing what goes on in people's minds before they buy, before they decide to work with you; what's happening from a psychology standpoint and how it can help you improve the sales in your business. What's really fun about this conversation is Steve has a tremendous amount of experience in selling from the stage and he tells his story about how he got started, what he's up to now and how he helps people. You'll walk away with not one but severa...
Living in the Present Moment with George Kinder
March 07, 2022 18:55 - 43 minutes - 26.3 MBI am so happy to have you here today, I am interviewing my good friend, George Kinder. George is known as the father of life planning. He was a financial advisor who wrote this amazing book that impacted me many years ago around The Seven Stages of Money Maturity and inspired my work. And today, we're having a very different kind of conversation because he's talking about his latest book which he is giving away for free. And, it is poetry that's oriented to the present moment. He ended up ch...
Thriving Relationships with Marie-Elizabeth Mali
March 03, 2022 13:11 - 43 minutes - 25.6 MBToday, I'm interviewing Marie-Elizabeth Mali about how to improve our relationships - we're also interweaving two very important topics that are near and dear to our hearts - money and inheritances. This is quite the combination of things to explore and it's like you get to eavesdrop into our girlfriend conversation. Enjoy and I can't wait for you to get to know Marie Elizabeth. She shares with us her insights: When you start doing that it also positively impacts all the other are...
Strategies for Financial Success with Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon
February 28, 2022 22:09 - 35 minutes - 24.5 MBToday, I'm interviewing Dr. Darnyelle Jervey Harmon who is a growth specialist for entrepreneurs. We're talking about the blocks that entrepreneurs run into as they're building their businesses. We discussed how you can stay motivated when you face failure with situations that don't work out the way that you had first thought. Darnyelle has built a very successful coaching company and she has faced incredible hardship. I love her spirit and attitude in which she runs her business and her life...
What's Your Sparketype with Jonathan Fields
February 24, 2022 19:00 - 43 minutes - 30.2 MBToday, I am interviewing my friend, Jonathan Fields. Jonathan has been an incredible source of inspiration and support over the years along with his wife Stephanie. I'm really excited to be sharing his latest book with you "Sparked". We're talking about the journey of how that book came together, what he has learned about himself through the assessment, and also what I've learned as a sage/maker with an anti-spark type of nurture. So you have to dig into the conversation and hear about what w...
Humane Selling with Sarah Santacroce
February 08, 2022 19:29 - 41 minutes - 17.6 MBToday, I'm interviewing my good friend, Sarah Santacroce. Sarah is a coach and an author, who wrote about selling like we're human. It is filled with so much good information for those of us coaches, consultants, who regularly sell your products and services to others. Sarah has done a lot of research -- she's worked with her clients to better understand their questions and I love her approach to sales. Sarah's book is a wonderful resource manual that helps you make better decisions about sal...
Presence in Business Ownership with Debbie Allen
February 01, 2022 01:53 - 41 minutes - 27.4 MBToday, I'm speaking with Debbie Allen who is an incredible coach and a long-time speaker who teaches people about developing their expert status and being able to speak on stages and coach their clients in a more effective way. Debbie started working in the family business right after high school eventually became one of the highest paid speakers on the speaker circuit! During our conversation Debbie is sharing many of the lessons she's learned along the way about speaking, becoming an autho...
Building a Real Estate Investor Community with Dustin Heiner
January 23, 2022 15:56 - 35 minutes - 22.3 MBToday's conversation is with Dustin Heiner who is the founder of Master Passive Income. When you're running a real estate business, whether it's one property that you rent out on Airbnb, or you run a commercial building, or you're renting it out full time, there are so many different things you need to know to have it go smoothly. And after 30 years of real estate investing I've learned just how much having a team of people at your side can save you time, money, and headaches. I've invited...
Stacking Your Money with Joe Saul-Sehy and Emily Guy Birken
January 06, 2022 01:25 - 48 minutes - 33.6 MBToday, I have the honor of interviewing my friends, Joe Saul Sehy, and Emily Guy. Birken. They've written a new book called Stacked, Your Super Serious Guide To Modern Money Management. And if you've heard Joe before he is the host of the Stacking Benjamins podcast, that he always brings comedy to everything that he does. Emily has also been on my podcast in the past. She's written several books about money management. Bringing the two of them together to share their wisdom in this book t...
The Art of Customer Feedback with Dr. Matt Champagne
December 21, 2021 16:46 - 43 minutes - 30.6 MBToday, I am interviewing Matt Champagne, PhD. We're discussing client and prospect surveys and the pioneering research that he's done over 25 years on maximizing the uses of customer feedback to grow your business and your profits. We're sharing ideas and ways to use surveys in your business in more ways than you've probably considered. Using them to become more in tune with your ideal client's needs so you can help them in bigger ways and be able to capture their attention with your comm...
Niching Your Way to Wealth with Stephanie Breedlove
December 08, 2021 16:29 - 42 minutes - 28.1 MBToday, I am interviewing Stephanie Breedlove of Breedlove Capital. Stephanie co-founded Home Pay, a full-service company that helps families process, payroll, and taxes related to their household employees. I heard from John Warrillow about Stephanie's experience with selling her company for over $50 million to Care.com. Super inspiring to hear about some of the struggles that she had to go through all the way to what she's up to now. Many of us who are founding companies deal with all sor...