@j.e.s.s, the other Jess, joins us for this episode as we discuss predatory health care, multilevel marketing wellness scams, and what to expect when you are searching for mental health treatments.  Jessica talks about her experience with crystals and the strange places she put them.  Sarah and Jess are very passionate about debunking scam treatments and can't stop talking about it, which is why this episode is so long! 


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For more information about MLMs: John Oliver's Episode, The Dream Podcast


For more information about getting help in BC if you are indigenous: First Nations Health Authority


CW: Due to the nature of our subject matter, topics like suicide, mental illness symptoms, self-harm, and trauma may come up. For privacy and triggering reasons, we do not talk about these topics in graphic detail.


If you are struggling with thoughts of suicide or urges to self-harm, please call your local crisis line. Follow this link to find a crisis line in your area: https://unwantedlife.me/global-crisis-lines


**Disclaimer** We are not doctors, licensed therapists, or social workers. We are not professionals in the field of mental illness/health. Everything said on this podcast is our own opinions formed from personal experience.  Please ask your family doctor or a licensed therapist if something we say resonates with you and you would like to learn more about it. We are not here to give medical or clinical advice. We are simply here to share experiences and create a safe space for open conversation to end the stigma behind mental illness.


If you don't have access to a therapist, you can ask a volunteer working for the crisis line (provided above)  to give you more resources about what is available to you in your area.