Charlie Bolden on Pathways to Space

Charles Frank Bolden Jr. is a retired US Marine Corps Major General and former NASA astronaut. After flying on four space shuttle missions—STS-61-C, STS-31, STS-45, and STS-60—Charlie was appointed by former President, Barack Obama, to serve as the 12th Administrator of NASA from 2009 to 2017, making him the first African American to head the agency permanently. Today, Charlie is the Founder and CEO Emeritus of the Charles F. Bolden Group, a consortium of accomplished leaders founded in 2017 to foster international collaboration in making life better for all humanity.

Charlie joins me today to discuss the qualities aspiring astronauts need to cultivate to be chosen for modern space programs. You’ll hear about his career at NASA and the characteristics he thinks made him a NASA astronaut. He explores how the dawn of the new space age may change selection preferences for would-be astronauts. You’ll also learn the value of being a team player and why being a jack-of-all-trades is essential to becoming an astronaut of today and tomorrow.

“You will be technicians, scientists, and researchers all in one—and that’s the kind of people we’re going to be looking for.” - Charlie Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

Qualities and characteristics NASA looked for in astronaut candidates in the 1980sCivil rights in the 1980s and the psychological implications of growing up in the segregated SouthWhy being a team player is a high-value trait for NASA astronautsDiversity as a trait of a high-performing organizationWhy being a good fighter pilot doesn’t necessarily mean being a great astronautThe lack of diversity in NASA’s Apollo era and how astronaut selection preferences have changed sinceHow the dawn of commercial spaceflight is changing preferences for would-be astronautsHow commercial spacecraft may change the employment prospects of future astronautsThe kind of crew NASA may seek for the Artemis program and beyondJessica Watkins, Kate Rubins, Peggy Whitson, and why researchers may be the astronauts of the futureRidley Scott’s The Martian and what it takes to be a modern-day astronaut

Resources Mentioned:

Book: Riding Rockets: The Outrageous Tales of a Space Shuttle Astronaut by Mike Mullane

Our Favorite Quotes:

“A great test pilot isn’t necessarily going to be a great astronaut; a great test pilot with a big ego is going to be a lousy astronaut.” - Charlie Bolden“The astronauts of today and tomorrow are not going to have the opportunity to train over and over again on something because they’ll find that every day is something new.” - Charlie Bolden

Related Episodes:

The Life of a Visionary with Charlie BoldenThe Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden

Connect with Charlie Bolden:

The Charles Bolden GroupThe Charles F. Bolden Group on...

Charles Frank Bolden Jr. is a retired US Marine Corps Major General and former NASA astronaut. After flying on four space shuttle missions—STS-61-C, STS-31, STS-45, and STS-60—Charlie was appointed by former President, Barack Obama, to serve as the 12th Administrator of NASA from 2009 to 2017, making him the first African American to head the agency permanently. Today, Charlie is the Founder and CEO Emeritus of the Charles F. Bolden Group, a consortium of accomplished leaders founded in 2017 to foster international collaboration in making life better for all humanity.

Charlie joins me today to discuss the qualities aspiring astronauts need to cultivate to be chosen for modern space programs. You’ll hear about his career at NASA and the characteristics he thinks made him a NASA astronaut. He explores how the dawn of the new space age may change selection preferences for would-be astronauts. You’ll also learn the value of being a team player and why being a jack-of-all-trades is essential to becoming an astronaut of today and tomorrow.

“You will be technicians, scientists, and researchers all in one—and that’s the kind of people we’re going to be looking for.” - Charlie Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

Qualities and characteristics NASA looked for in astronaut candidates in the 1980sCivil rights in the 1980s and the psychological implications of growing up in the segregated SouthWhy being a team player is a high-value trait for NASA astronautsDiversity as a trait of a high-performing organizationWhy being a good fighter pilot doesn’t necessarily mean being a great astronautThe lack of diversity in NASA’s Apollo era and how astronaut selection preferences have changed sinceHow the dawn of commercial spaceflight is changing preferences for would-be astronautsHow commercial spacecraft may change the employment prospects of future astronautsThe kind of crew NASA may seek for the Artemis program and beyondJessica Watkins, Kate Rubins, Peggy Whitson, and why researchers may be the astronauts of the futureRidley Scott’s The Martian and what it takes to be a modern-day astronaut

Resources Mentioned:

Book: Riding Rockets: The Outrageous Tales of a Space Shuttle Astronaut by Mike Mullane

Our Favorite Quotes:

“A great test pilot isn’t necessarily going to be a great astronaut; a great test pilot with a big ego is going to be a lousy astronaut.” - Charlie Bolden“The astronauts of today and tomorrow are not going to have the opportunity to train over and over again on something because they’ll find that every day is something new.” - Charlie Bolden

Related Episodes:

The Life of a Visionary with Charlie BoldenThe Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden

Connect with Charlie Bolden:

The Charles Bolden GroupThe Charles F. Bolden Group on LinkedInThe Charles F. Bolden Group on InstagramThe Charles F. Bolden Group on YouTubeThe Charles F. Bolden Group on TwitterCharlie Bolden on LinkedInCharlie Bolden on Twitter

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