Episode 37: 037 JSJ Promises with Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal

Panel
Kris Kowal (twitter github blog)
Domenic Denicola (twitter github blog)
AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog)
Jamison Dance (twitter github blog)
Joe Eames (twitter github blog)
Merrick Christensen (twitter github)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript)
Discussion
02:41 - Promises
Asynchonous programming
05:09 - Using Promises from top to bottom
07:08 - Domains
NodeConf SummerCamp
07:55 - Q
10:22 - q.nfbind
11:15 - Q vs jQuery
You’re Missing the Point of Promises
Coming from jQuery
15:41 - long-stack-traces
turn
chaining
JavaScriptStackTraceApi: Overview of the V8 JavaScript stack trace API (error.prepare stack trace)
19:36 - Original Promises/A spec and Promises/A+ spec
when.js
Promises Test Suite
Underscore deferred
24:22 - .then
Chai as Promised
26:58 - Nesting Promises
spread method
28:38 - Error Handling
causeway
32:57 - Benefits of Promises
Error Handling
Multiple Async at once
Handle things before and after they happen
40:29 - task.js
41:33 - Language
e programming language
CoffeeScript
44:11 - Mocking Promises
45:44 - Testing Promises
Mocha as Promised
Picks
Code Triage (Jamison)
The Creative Sandbox Guidebook (Joe)
Steam (Joe)
Pluralsight (Joe)
montage (Kris)
montagejs / mr (Kris)
CascadiaJS 2012 - Domenic Denicola (Domenic)
Omnifocus (Chuck)
Buckyballs (AJ)
Transcript
JOE: I can’t imagine your baby face with a beard, Jamison.
JAMISON: I never thought I had a baby face.
AJ: It was always a man face to me.
JOE: Everybody who is 15 years younger than me has a baby face.
[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.]
[This show is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th. They'll be covering Jasmine, Backbone and CoffeeScript. For more information or to register, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com]
[Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]
CHUCK: Hey everybody. Welcome to episode 37 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.
AJ: Yo, yo, yo, comin' at you live from the executive boardroom suite of Orem, Utah.
CHUCK: Jamison Dance.
JAMISON: Hey guys!
CHUCK: Joe Eames.
JOE: Hey there!
CHUCK: Merrick Christensen
MERRICK: What's up.
CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week we have some guests -- and that is Kris Kowal.
KRIS: Hello. Yeah, Kowal.
CHUCK: Kowal. OK. And Domenic Denicola. Did I say that right?
DOMENIC: Denicola.
CHUCK: Denicola.
DOMENIC: It’s OK I got Americanized. That's probably the proper Italian pronunciation. Hi guys!
CHUCK: I speak proper Italian, so probably.
KRIS: Yeah and for what it’s worth, I think that the proper Polish is Kowal or something, but yeah.
JAMISON: Kris, are you from the Midwest? You have kind of Minnesota-ish accent.
KRIS: No. I'm actually unfortunately from somewhere in the suburbs of Los Angeles, but I grew up indoors and did listen to Prairie Home Companion. So I don’t know. Maybe.
[laughter]
CHUCK: Awesome. All right. So this week we are going to be talking about… actually there's one thing I need to announce before. If you are listening to this episode, you’ll probably notice a little bit of a difference with our sponsorship message. I actually left off one important piece to one of the sponsorship messages and that is for the Gaslight software training that's going to be in San Francisco, if you wanna sign up, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com and you can sign up there. They’ve been a terrific sponsor and I feel kind of bad that I botched that. But anyway, Special Guests: Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal.

Panel

Kris Kowal (twitter github blog)
Domenic Denicola (twitter github blog)
AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog)
Jamison Dance (twitter github blog)
Joe Eames (twitter github blog)
Merrick Christensen (twitter github)
Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript)

Discussion

02:41 - Promises

Asynchonous programming

05:09 - Using Promises from top to bottom

07:08 - Domains

NodeConf SummerCamp

07:55 - Q

10:22 - q.nfbind

11:15 - Q vs jQuery

You’re Missing the Point of Promises

Coming from jQuery

15:41 - long-stack-traces

turn

chaining

JavaScriptStackTraceApi: Overview of the V8 JavaScript stack trace API (error.prepare stack trace)

19:36 - Original Promises/A spec and Promises/A+ spec

when.js

Promises Test Suite

Underscore deferred

24:22 - .then

Chai as Promised

26:58 - Nesting Promises

spread method

28:38 - Error Handling

causeway

32:57 - Benefits of Promises

Error Handling

Multiple Async at once

Handle things before and after they happen

40:29 - task.js

41:33 - Language

e programming language

CoffeeScript

44:11 - Mocking Promises

45:44 - Testing Promises

Mocha as Promised

Picks

Code Triage (Jamison)
The Creative Sandbox Guidebook (Joe)
Steam (Joe)
Pluralsight (Joe)
montage (Kris)
montagejs / mr (Kris)
CascadiaJS 2012 - Domenic Denicola (Domenic)
Omnifocus (Chuck)
Buckyballs (AJ)

Transcript

JOE: I can’t imagine your baby face with a beard, Jamison.

JAMISON: I never thought I had a baby face.

AJ: It was always a man face to me.

JOE: Everybody who is 15 years younger than me has a baby face.

[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.]

[This show is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th. They'll be covering Jasmine, Backbone and CoffeeScript. For more information or to register, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com]

[Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]

CHUCK: Hey everybody. Welcome to episode 37 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.

AJ: Yo, yo, yo, comin' at you live from the executive boardroom suite of Orem, Utah.

CHUCK: Jamison Dance.

JAMISON: Hey guys!

CHUCK: Joe Eames.

JOE: Hey there!

CHUCK: Merrick Christensen

MERRICK: What's up.

CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week we have some guests -- and that is Kris Kowal.

KRIS: Hello. Yeah, Kowal.

CHUCK: Kowal. OK. And Domenic Denicola. Did I say that right?

DOMENIC: Denicola.

CHUCK: Denicola.

DOMENIC: It’s OK I got Americanized. That's probably the proper Italian pronunciation. Hi guys!

CHUCK: I speak proper Italian, so probably.

KRIS: Yeah and for what it’s worth, I think that the proper Polish is Kowal or something, but yeah.

JAMISON: Kris, are you from the Midwest? You have kind of Minnesota-ish accent.

KRIS: No. I'm actually unfortunately from somewhere in the suburbs of Los Angeles, but I grew up indoors and did listen to Prairie Home Companion. So I don’t know. Maybe.

[laughter]

CHUCK: Awesome. All right. So this week we are going to be talking about… actually there's one thing I need to announce before. If you are listening to this episode, you’ll probably notice a little bit of a difference with our sponsorship message. I actually left off one important piece to one of the sponsorship messages and that is for the Gaslight software training that's going to be in San Francisco, if you wanna sign up, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com and you can sign up there. They’ve been a terrific sponsor and I feel kind of bad that I botched that. But anyway,

Special Guests: Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal.