Interdisciplinary
123 episodes - English - Latest episode: 9 months ago - ★★★★★ - 17 ratingsInterdisciplinary is Healwell's healthcare podcast about all the places and perspectives that lift us up. We say what other people aren't willing to say and we always say the quiet parts loud.
You’ll always learn something. You’ll always laugh and you’ll come away better informed and with real things you can do in your own community and practice to create a more compassionate and collaborative system of care for all humans.
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Episodes
A Very Special Interdisciplinary
August 20, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 84.1 MBIn this episode, the Healwell Brain Trust opens up their hearts for an uncomfortable, loving, and honest conversation about code switching, in-groups and out-groups, and the question of lying versus adaptation. Featuring (in order of appearance:) Cal Cates Corey Rivera Kerry Jordan Rebecca Sturgeon Laura Bryant-Earner ********** Continue this conversation with us in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Quiet by Susan Cain: https://www.goodreads.com/book...
Look for People
August 13, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 88.5 MBWe are pleased to welcome Gabriela DeAnda, Healwell Community member and all around awesome human. Gabriela talks to us about intersectionality, and her personal experiences adapting and relating. ********** Thank you to ABMP for sponsoring this season of Interdisciplinary! abmp.com ********** Continue this conversation with us in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** For early episode access and lots of bonus material, join our Patreon: patreon.com/inter...
Season of the Switch
August 06, 2022 09:00 - 50 minutes - 69.7 MBWelcome to Season 8 of Interdisciplinary! This season, we are exploring code switching. What is it? Why do we do it? When do we do it? And -- how does it affect our ability to care for each other? ********** Big love to our sponsor for Season 8, ABMP! Check them out at abmp.com ********** NPR's Code Switch podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/1112190608
What is this podcast?
August 03, 2022 09:00 - 5 minutes - 7.67 MBWhat even is "Interdisciplinary," the podcast? The Healwell team is here to tell you all about it.
Healwell Community
July 30, 2022 09:00 - 8 minutes - 11.2 MBIt's true -- there is a place on the internet where folks are fun, kind, respectful, and honest. It's not a fairy tale, it's the Healwell Community, and we hope you will join us there! Find out more at: community.healwell.org
Healwell Birthday Party
July 27, 2022 21:00 - 6 minutes - 8.61 MBHealwell turns 12 this year -- so let's get together and celebrate! Hear all about Healwell's birthday party. You are invited! Find out more at https://www.healwell.org/upcoming-events
Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium
July 23, 2022 09:00 - 8 minutes - 11.2 MBWe miss you in between seasons, so we're here for a short update on what's going on at Healwell. Today we are talking about the Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium (healwell.org/upcoming-events), happening September 24th.
No More Skittering
July 16, 2022 09:00 - 48 minutes - 66.7 MBIt's the Season 7 wrap up! And because we're Healwell, it's also an exploration of the state of the world and the work that needs to be done in it. Thank you for being here with us! We'll be off for a couple of weeks planning our next season. Keep in touch with us in the Healwell Community (community.healwell.org) or by sending an email to [email protected] ********** Cal's blog post is at healwell.org/blog ********** Healwell's virtual Health Care and Intimacy Symposi...
Scarily Amazing
July 09, 2022 09:00 - 51 minutes - 70.1 MBThis is your exclusive inside look at what happens in Healwell's Hospital Based Massage Therapy Stewardship. You will hear from the instructors and students of our class at University of Kentucky hospital in Lexington, KY. NOTE: Some sections of this episode were recorded in the hospital, so the sound is inconsistent in parts. We thank you for your patience and apologize for the inconvenience. *********** Deep bows of gratitude to the students in our first Lexington, KY coh...
The Research Rat Race
July 02, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutes - 76 MBAw, rats! The Healwell Brain Trust welcomes Esther E. Dupont-Versteegden, Ph.D. to the podcast. Esther's presentation at IMTRC blew everyone away, and we are delighted to have her on the podcast to talk more about about her research into muscular atrophy, how researchers really spend their time, and what all this data means for massage therapists. ************ Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org *********** Support us on Patreon for ext...
Not Everyone Can Drive the Truck
June 25, 2022 09:00 - 50 minutes - 68.8 MBIt's the "what I did on my summer vacation" episode. Cal Cates and Kerry Jordan talk with Corey Rivera about their recent presentation at the Mountain Search and Rescue conference in Estes Park, Colorado. *********** Burnout Study: https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Financial-Sustainability/Backcountry-Search-and-Rescue-Study.pdf ************ Join the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Join our Patreon and become a Super Secret Squirrel ...
We Have No Answers
June 18, 2022 09:00 - 59 minutes - 82.2 MBThe Education Department (Rebecca and Corey) take on a question from a podcast listener about how to keep learning after massage school. There's some perspective, some Piaget, and very little predictability. ********** The budgeting software with the cute little elephant: https://www.youneedabudget.com/ ********** Coursera, lots of online courses, many of them free: https://www.coursera.org/ ********** Other places we like to learn: Maintenance Phase podcast: https://www.mai...
I'm a TAB, You're a TAB
June 11, 2022 09:00 - 55 minutes - 75.7 MBWe are so excited to talk to Nellie Galindo, disability advocate, sexual health educator, and speaker at Healwell's September Symposium! We talk about consent, communication, care, and compassion. ********** Healwell's Healthcare and Intimacy Symposium is September 24. Register here: https://give.healwell.org/event/healthcare-and-intimacy-virtual-symposium/e409248 ********** Resources from Nellie: Accessible Sexual Health, LLC: https://www.accessiblesexualhealth.com Advocat...
The Precious Time
June 02, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 87.4 MBCal and Corey talk with Jennifer O'Brien, author of The Hospice Doctor's Widow, about holding the truths that come along with a life-changing diagnosis, and facing the reality that, sooner or later, we all have to die. ********** Find The Hospice Doctor's Widow here: https://www.etaliapress.com/new-products/the-hospice-doctors-widow-a-journal ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** About Our Guest: Jennifer O’Brien has...
More Alliances
May 28, 2022 09:00 - 53 minutes - 73.5 MBCal talks with Kammaleathahh Livingstone, founder of Tip It Forward (tipitforward.org) about trauma-informed care, connecting with the community, and the essential difficulty of being a human. ********** Take Tip It Forward's Introduction to Trauma Informed Care class here: https://online.healwell.org/courses/intro-to-trauma-informed-care ********** Learn more about Tip It Forward here: tipitforward.org ********** About Our Guest: Kammaleathahh Livingstone is a Licensed Mas...
Emphatically No Questions
May 21, 2022 09:00 - 1 hour - 91.9 MBCal Cates, Corey Rivera, and Laura Bryant-Earner went to the International Massage Therapy Research Conference on May 12-13. In this episode, they sit down and talk about the conference, research, and what is hopeful and frustrating about being together in meat space again. ********** Check out this practice based research network (as mentioned in the episode): massagenet.org ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Yo...
Introvert Takeover
May 14, 2022 09:00 - 18 minutes - 25.9 MBIt's season 7! This preview episode features Rebecca and Kerry talking about all the fun episodes coming up this season. ********** We want to hear from you! Email us at [email protected] ********** Join the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Join the legion of Super Secret Squirrels at our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** Check out the massage dosing study Kerry talked about: https://tinyurl.com/5n6n6y3a ********** T...
Precious Little Wall of Preciousness
April 23, 2022 09:00 - 59 minutes - 81.2 MBIn the Season 6 finale, we are pleased to welcome Sakinah Irizarry, co-presenter of Challenging Racism in the Massage Industry, and all-around thoughtful individual. We start the conversation with proposed legislation in New York state, roam into questions of harm, responsibility, and the deep stickiness of massage legislation. ********** Find out more about the proposed legislation here: https://twitter.com/RedCanarySong/status/1497287255551004694 ********** Find out more a...
Vagina Vagina Vagina
April 16, 2022 09:00 - 42 minutes - 58.4 MBWe are pleased to welcome back Anne Kelemen, one of Healwell's favorite recurring guests. Anne joins Kerry and Rebecca to talk about intimacy and chronic illness. ********** Check out Anne's latest course, "The Power of Our Words": https://online.healwell.org/courses/power-of-our-words ********** Read Anne's research about assessing the impact of illness on intimacy and sexuality here: https://tinyurl.com/2p8vu2jv and here: https://tinyurl.com/37rmnvx6 ********** About Our ...
I Blame Descartes
April 09, 2022 09:00 - 53 minutes - 73.5 MBKerry, Corey, and Rebecca are talking false assumptions about the human body and how they affect care. And, because it's us, the conversation goes in multiple directions, including: pain, lactic acid, and touch-seeking behaviors. Editor's Note: Many apologies for the background noise on this one. Rebecca was in a remote location with free-ranging children. *********** Continue the conversation and join the Hospital Based Massage support group in the Healwell Community: commun...
So Many Wonders
April 02, 2022 09:00 - 54 minutes - 74.9 MBWe're going back to school in this episode, and sharing stories of our massage school experiences, and of course bringing it out to the profession in general. And we might even be touching our hair. ********** Continue the conversation with us! Send us an email or a voice memo -- [email protected] Join us in the Healwell Community for even deeper dives into this and whatever is on your mind -- community.healwell.org ********** All the Super Secret Squirrels are hanging ...
Watch Your Mouth: Wellness Swear Words
March 26, 2022 09:00 - 54 minutes - 75.5 MBToxins. Cleanse. Healer. Based on Psychology. Cal Cates, Kerry Jordan, and Corey Rivera explore these and other wellness swear words. What do we mean when we say the things we say? ********** Did we talk about your favorite wellness swear word? If not, please send us an email at [email protected] ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community! community.healwell.org ********** There's lots of fun bonus content in our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisci...
Don't Hit the Panic Button
March 19, 2022 09:00 - 50 minutes - 69.6 MBCorey, Kerry, and Rebecca talk about mental health in the treatment room. Are we really prepared? What about our colleagues in other health care professions? And -- what is up with the massage room panic buttons? ********** Continue the conversation with us in the Healwell Community: healwell.org/community *********** Support us on Patreon! This week's Patreon features a bonus rant from Cal Cates, exclusive to Super Secret Squirrels: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
No is the Key
March 14, 2022 19:00 - 56 minutes - 77.1 MBIn this episode, Cal, Kerry, Corey, and Rebecca talk about how to find and gather the resources you need to be a caring, compassionate, effective practitioner. We get into the issues with health care, massage therapy CEs, and what it even means to be "resourced.) ********** Thank you to our Patreons! We couldn't do this without your support. We hope you are enjoying the new content. You can join the Super Secret Squirrel party at patreon.com/Interdisciplinary ********** Cont...
Smash It From Within
March 05, 2022 10:00 - 53 minutes - 73.7 MBCal Cates and Laura Bryant-Earner talk about the nuances of "elevating the profession." What does this even mean? And what does it have to do with providing the best care for our fellow humans? ********** Deep bows of gratitude to our Patreons! Early access to episodes, bonus materials and more at patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** Continue the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org
Whack It With A Wrench
February 12, 2022 10:00 - 54 minutes - 74.4 MBIn the final episode of Season 5, where we talk money —we get into the sticky question of volunteerism, the actual cost of doing massage, and why feral cats don’t make good therapy pets. ********** Find a whole bunch of extras (and join the Super Secret Squirrels) on our Patreon: patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** For actual good advice about money management, check out our friends at Massage Business Blueprint: https://www.massagebusinessblueprint.com/
The Goiter Episode
February 05, 2022 10:00 - 40 minutes - 56.2 MBIt's getting salty at Healwell. We take inspiration from a conversation with Amanda Long about self care and snow days, and get all the way into existential questions about the nature of massage therapy. This episode features clips from an interview with Amanda. For the full interview, check out our Patreon at patreon.com/interdisciplinary
The Ways We Feed Each Other
January 29, 2022 10:00 - 58 minutes - 80.4 MBThis week we welcome Jenn Brandel, LICSW to talk about caring for yourself in a crisis, and the power of metaphors to process hard things. *********** Find Jenn's books (including a free downloadable PDF of My Crisis Plan) here: https://jennbrandel.com/publications.html For 20% off Jenn's book, When Rabbits Spill Their Tea, email [email protected] ********** Support us on Patreon! patreon.com/interdisciplinary ********** The conversation is continuing in the Healwell Com...
Leaving Massage, Part 2
January 22, 2022 10:00 - 47 minutes - 64.7 MBWe continue our look at leaving the massage profession with the stories of Sheri Bergen, Nancy Keeney-Smith, Justin Magnuson, and Ruth Werner. ********** Join the conversation in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** Check out our Patreon for the full interviews with each of today's guests and lots of other bonus episodes: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
Leaving Massage, Part 1
January 15, 2022 10:00 - 51 minutes - 70 MBCorey, Kerry and Rebecca sit down for an honest conversation about when it might be time to stop practicing massage. Can you still be a massage therapist, even if you aren't practicing massage? What do you do with the love you have for clients once you no longer see them? And how can we support each other when taking care of ourselves means leaving behind work that we love? ********** Join us for Part 2 next week, where we features the voices of folks who have left, or have c...
Every Situation Needs Great Communication (Rerun)
January 08, 2022 10:00 - 46 minutes - 63.3 MBIn this September 2020 conversation, Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan talk with disabled rights advocate, Kelly Mack, about bodies, accessibility, and the very hard, very simple things we can do to welcome more folks in our practices. ********** All the extra stuff is on Patreon! Check it out at: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
The "O" Words (Rerun)
January 01, 2022 10:00 - 1 hour - 96.6 MBHappy New Year! for this episode, we are re-running one of our favorties: Cal Cates and Cathy Ryan talk with Hilary and Dana of Be Nourished (benourished.org) about bodies, health, and the lens we see through. ********** Hilary and Dana wrote a book! Check out "Reclaiming Body Trust" here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/675785/reclaiming-body-trust-by-hilary-kinavey-ms-lpc-and-dana-sturtevant-ms-rd/ ********** Support the podcast and get access to bonus episodes an...
Master of Neoteny
December 25, 2021 10:00 - 49 minutes - 68.2 MBThe Healwell team talks about the very serious subject of joy and happiness -- what it really means in he context of a meaningful life. Also, there's some funny animal stories. ********** More goodness is happening on Patreon! The latest bonus episode features more talk about the Japanese anime, Psycho Pass. Find this and the other super secret squirrel extras at: patreon.com/interdisciplinary
Be the Snowball
December 18, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 89.2 MBThis week we have a guest -- and a guest co-host. Kate DeBartolo and Justin Magnuson help with the very large conversation around how to talk about our plans and wishes for ourselves in the event of chronic illness. Go gently into this conversation and emerge with a deeper connection to your full humanity. ********** The Conversation Project: https://theconversationproject.org/ ********** Check out bonus episodes and get early access to the podcast at our Patreon: patreon.com...
No Answers
December 11, 2021 10:00 - 51 minutes - 71 MBIt's a new season, and a new format for the podcast! This season, we're bringing in more of the Healwell folks to talk compassion, equity, caring for humans, and more. This week, we talk about what it's *really* like to try to live Healwell's core values in our daily lives. ********** Infographic of 50 Cognitive Biases: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/50-cognitive-biases-in-the-modern-world/ ********** Patreon is getting revved up this season! Join us now so you won't miss ...
You Do Have a Role
November 20, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 83.2 MBCal talks with Teresa Nguyen about the very human experience of living with a disability, advocating for oneself in a world that is not often aware of your needs, and what every human can do to become more aware of the needs of other humans. ********** Teresa also appeared on this episode of "Terrible, Thanks for Asking": https://www.ttfa.org/episode/2021/03/16/data-points ********** And here is an article about navigating a relationship with a disability: https://www.thesun...
Being Human is a Special Calling
November 13, 2021 10:00 - 1 hour - 94.8 MBThis week's conversation goes deep -- into compassion, humanity, and our fundamental connection to each other. This conversation with Ladybird Morgan and Marvin Mutch of the Humane Prison Hospice Project will invite you to deep reflection and consideration of the ways in which we separate ourselves from each other. ********** The Human Prison Hospice Project: https://humaneprisonhospiceproject.org ********** View of screening of the short film "Prison Terminal" followed by a ...
The Good Word Redux
November 06, 2021 09:00 - 52 minutes - 72.2 MBHow do the words we use affect the people we serve? What could be problematic about some of the common things we say as care providers? What happens when we listen to our words from a different perspective? Cal and Cathy welcome Anne Kelemen to the podcast to consider the question of language. (This episode originally aired in February, 2021.) **** Check out Anne Keleman's course on Healwell's online course portal: https://online.healwell.org/courses/to-chart-or-not-to-chart ...
Wise Patient
October 30, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 71.4 MBIn this episode, Cal talks with Dr. Rachel Beda, a physician practicing in a concierge setting in Seattle. The conversations touches on equity, gender affirming care, the challenges of building relationship in a primary care practice, and the thorny question of "obesity medicine." ********** The contest is still on! Don't miss your chance to win the most valuable prices in the universe! Just write a review of the podcast, and if we read it on the show, you win your choice of...
The Longest Trailer Ever
October 23, 2021 09:00 - 39 minutes - 54.8 MBCal joins Kerry Jordan and Rebecca Sturgeon for a behind-the-scenes review of Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference. ********** Missed coming to the conference live? All the sessions are available -- with closed captioning -- in the Healwell Community: community.healwell.org ********** The contest is still on! Write a review of Interdisciplinary wherever you listen, and if we read your review on the show, you will get your choice of: Interdisciplinar...
Extraordinary Times
October 16, 2021 09:00 - 53 minutes - 73.2 MBCal and Cathy are on their own this week, talking about all the things that have been on their minds -- like misinformation, disinformation, and the state of the world in the US and Canada. It's a free-for-all of evidence-based fun! ********** Resources mentioned in this episode: https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020/coronavirus-antibodies-protect-against-future-infection https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/were-the-covid-19-vaccines-rushed https://www.np...
You Just Gotta Listen
October 09, 2021 09:00 - 54 minutes - 75.2 MBThis week's guest is Debbie LaFond, interdisciplinary team legend. Debbie talks the difference between pediatric and adult care, and what palliative care has to bring for every human. *********** The contest is still on! Write a review wherever you listen for your chance to win an Interdisciplinary mug, an Interdisciplinary t-shirt, a 30minute conversation with Cal and Cathy, or a conversation with the authors of Oncology Massage: An integrative approach to cancer care. ***...
Set the Table
October 02, 2021 09:00 - 1 hour - 89 MBCal and Cathy welcome Dr. Gayle Dine'Chacon, founder of the Center for Native American Health (CNAH) and former Surgeon General for the Navajo Nation. It's about sovereignty, relationships, and awareness of our connection to each other. ********** Dr. Dine'Chacon will be one of the speaker at Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, October 9-10. Learn more here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021 ********** About Our Guest: Gayle Dine’Chacon, M. D. is an enrolled mem...
Ignore the D
September 25, 2021 09:00 - 55 minutes - 75.7 MBThis week, Cal and Cathy get intersectional. Sirius Bonner joins the podcast to talk about adding fatness to our intersectional lens, being a Black woman in Portland Oregon, and the definition of "Blerd." ********** Hear more from Sirius at our conference, Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021 Discount registration available for students and massage therapists. Email [email protected] for details. ********** About Our Guest: ...
A Fair Amount of Scatalogical Humor
September 18, 2021 09:00 - 51 minutes - 70.9 MBWelcome to Season 4 of Interdisciplinary, where we are diving right into the deep end. Cal and Cathy kick it off with Emily Clore, DVM and a hilarious, honest, and raw conversation about what it's like to be a human whose job is to care for animals. This episode includes discussions of suicide and suicide prevention. ********** Have you registered for THE conference of the year -- Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care? Check it out here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care...
Don't Think It's Not About You, Part 2
August 28, 2021 09:00 - 43 minutes - 60 MBLocated in Chicago, Ujimaa Medics is a community-based organization that provides critical health care training to the community, in support of the people who live there. Part 2 of this conversation includes one of UMedics' supporters and volunteers and to share her personal experience and continue the discussion of caring for one another and mobilizing a community to take care of itself when the systems are not invested in care. ********** This is the final episode of Season...
Don't Think It's Not About You, Part 1
August 21, 2021 09:00 - 41 minutes - 57.2 MBUjimaa is a Swahili word that refers to collective work and responsibility. Located in Chicago, Ujimaa Medics is a community-based organization that provides critical health care training to the community, in support of the people who live there. Part 1 of this conversation dives deep into questions of health justice, access to care, and the need for open-eyed awareness of structural racism's effect on health care. ********** Check out Ujimaa Medics here: www.umedics.org **...
WHYYYY?
August 14, 2021 09:00 - 58 minutes - 81 MBCal and Cathy welcome back Dr. Jennifer Hutton, aka Dr. Jpop, to talk about all things allyship, solidarity, and staying in the work because the work isn't even close to done. ********** Find out more about Dr. Jpop's Building Allyship program here: Building Allyship: https://drjpop.com/buildingallyship IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr.jpop/ ********** Dr. Jpop is one of the awesome presenters at Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference, October 9-10....
Don't Make It About You
August 07, 2021 09:00 - 56 minutes - 77.1 MBThis week, Cal and our guest, Anna Valdez, consider the question: what if care providers just believed people? What if we just believed that people were telling the truth about their pain or discomfort? This week is a deep dive into assumptions, biases, and cultural habits that increase suffering for all humans. ********** Healwell's virtual conference, Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care, is October 9-10. 8 CEs for most health care professions. Find out more here: http...
I Have Been Sorely Disappointed
July 31, 2021 09:00 - 57 minutes - 79.4 MBCal and Cathy talk with Ian Watlington about respect for bodies as they are, awareness of the whole human life cycle, and what we should all thank disability advocates for. (Hint: curb cuts are just the start.) ********** Ian is one of the presenters at Healwell's Just Care: Social Justice in Health Care conference, October 9-10. Find out more here: https://www.healwell.org/just-care-2021 ********** If you enjoyed this episode, Ian also recommends Disability After Dark with...